Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?

2006-04-18 Thread yusuf

I have used many sangoma cards, and have not had *any* irq issues

Anton Krall wrote:

Has anybody used the sangoma fxo cards with asterisk? Anybody using multiple
cards? Problems with irq and such (same as with digium ones)?

 


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|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
|John Novack

|Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:29 AM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Cc: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
|Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?
|
|
|
|Rich Adamson wrote:
|
|
| While talking with one of the sangoma folks very recently, he was 
| rather emphatic the pci bus was designed to share 
|interrupts. I was 
| a little concerned as a test server had the wanpipe driver 
|sharing an 
| interrupt with libata and uhc1_hcd. His comment was that's the way 
| its suppose to work, sharing interrupts as needed. I've not had any 
| recognizable issues with the A200D card at all, and faxing 
|via a A200D 
| fxs port to a A200D fxo (pstn) port functions 100% reliably.

|
| What that would suggest is the TDM400 pci firmware (whether on card 
| logic or whatever) is the source of at least part of the 
|TDM400 shared 
| interrupt issue. I don't have any digium T1/E1 cards laying around, 
| but if memory serves correctly, the T1/E1 cards do not use the same 
| pci controller chip. That would suggest the T1/E1 cards are 
|less of an 
| issue then with the TDM400 card.

|
|That's good to know, but considering the response from Digium 
|on the TDM400 ( try another motherboard) when there didn't 
|seem to even be an int. sharing issue, the card just couldn't 
|be seen at all , and the support I received from Sangoma on a 
|recent FXS issue that was resolved within a few days, I would 
|tend to go with Sangoma for the T1 card, if and when I have the need.

|
|John Novack
|
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?

2006-04-18 Thread Anton Krall
That's great news! Seen sangoma is beating digium :) 

|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of yusuf
|Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 10:57 AM
|To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
|Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?
|
|I have used many sangoma cards, and have not had *any* irq issues
|
|Anton Krall wrote:
| Has anybody used the sangoma fxo cards with asterisk? Anybody using 
| multiple cards? Problems with irq and such (same as with 
|digium ones)?
| 
|  
| 
| |-Original Message-
| |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
| |Novack
| |Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:29 AM
| |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| |Cc: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
| |Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?
| |
| |
| |
| |Rich Adamson wrote:
| |
| |
| | While talking with one of the sangoma folks very recently, he was 
| | rather emphatic the pci bus was designed to share
| |interrupts. I was
| | a little concerned as a test server had the wanpipe driver
| |sharing an
| | interrupt with libata and uhc1_hcd. His comment was 
|that's the way 
| | its suppose to work, sharing interrupts as needed. I've not had 
| | any recognizable issues with the A200D card at all, and faxing
| |via a A200D
| | fxs port to a A200D fxo (pstn) port functions 100% reliably.
| |
| | What that would suggest is the TDM400 pci firmware 
|(whether on card 
| | logic or whatever) is the source of at least part of the
| |TDM400 shared
| | interrupt issue. I don't have any digium T1/E1 cards 
|laying around, 
| | but if memory serves correctly, the T1/E1 cards do not 
|use the same 
| | pci controller chip. That would suggest the T1/E1 cards are
| |less of an
| | issue then with the TDM400 card.
| |
| |That's good to know, but considering the response from 
|Digium on the 
| |TDM400 ( try another motherboard) when there didn't seem to even be 
| |an int. sharing issue, the card just couldn't be seen at all , and 
| |the support I received from Sangoma on a recent FXS issue that was 
| |resolved within a few days, I would tend to go with Sangoma for the 
| |T1 card, if and when I have the need.
| |
| |John Novack
| |
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?

2006-04-16 Thread Olivier Krief
2006/4/14, Rich Adamson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Factually, the sangoma cards integrate with the pci bus in a much morestable/usable way then does the digium TDM card (and I believe the te110if it uses the TigerJet pci chip).Could you elaborate ?
What are the pos's and con's of each PCI bus integration ?Regards
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?

2006-04-14 Thread Anton Krall
My main concerns would be, can you have multiple cards like this on a
system, for example, I now have a te110p and 2 tdm04b and Im getting
irqmisses on the te110p (according to zttool and zttest) which makes fax
receiving on the te110p almost impossible.. Plus, voice is getting frame
slips.

I was hoping sangoma cards could be more enterprise friendly. 

|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
|John Novack
|Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 4:57 PM
|To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
|Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?
|
|Have a 2FXO 2FXS card working now.
|More forgiving of the PCI bus. The software installation is a 
|little mean, with the outlined procedure making assumptions 
|about the installers knowledge and familiarity with Sangoma 
|products, and in some places it doesn't really discriminate 
|between their T1 and A200 cards.
|I found one defect in their FXS driver, which they have now fixed.
|
|Overall seems to be a good product, slightly more affordable 
|and less of a problem child than the Digium/TigerJet TDM400
|
|John Novack
|
|Anton Krall wrote:
|
|Has anybody used the sangoma fxo cards with asterisk? Anybody using 
|multiple cards? Problems with irq and such (same as with digium ones)?
|
| 
|
||-Original Message-
||From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
||[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
||Novack
||Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:29 AM
||To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
||Cc: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
||Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?
||
||
||
||Rich Adamson wrote:
||
||
|| While talking with one of the sangoma folks very recently, he was 
|| rather emphatic the pci bus was designed to share
||interrupts. I was
|| a little concerned as a test server had the wanpipe driver
||sharing an
|| interrupt with libata and uhc1_hcd. His comment was 
|that's the way 
|| its suppose to work, sharing interrupts as needed. I've 
|not had any 
|| recognizable issues with the A200D card at all, and faxing
||via a A200D
|| fxs port to a A200D fxo (pstn) port functions 100% reliably.
||
|| What that would suggest is the TDM400 pci firmware 
|(whether on card 
|| logic or whatever) is the source of at least part of the
||TDM400 shared
|| interrupt issue. I don't have any digium T1/E1 cards 
|laying around, 
|| but if memory serves correctly, the T1/E1 cards do not use 
|the same 
|| pci controller chip. That would suggest the T1/E1 cards are
||less of an
|| issue then with the TDM400 card.
||
||That's good to know, but considering the response from Digium on the 
||TDM400 ( try another motherboard) when there didn't seem to 
|even be an 
||int. sharing issue, the card just couldn't be seen at all , and the 
||support I received from Sangoma on a recent FXS issue that was 
||resolved within a few days, I would tend to go with Sangoma 
|for the T1 
||card, if and when I have the need.
||
||John Novack
||
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?

2006-04-14 Thread Rich Adamson
I'd have to guess that combination of cards with almost any mobo would 
be considered an overloaded system. If you replaced the two TDM04b cards 
with an A200D or TDM2400 card, most of those irqmisses (etc) would 
probably go away; but that's a somewhat educated guess on my part.


Factually, the sangoma cards integrate with the pci bus in a much more 
stable/usable way then does the digium TDM card (and I believe the te110 
if it uses the TigerJet pci chip).



Anton Krall wrote:

My main concerns would be, can you have multiple cards like this on a
system, for example, I now have a te110p and 2 tdm04b and Im getting
irqmisses on the te110p (according to zttool and zttest) which makes fax
receiving on the te110p almost impossible.. Plus, voice is getting frame
slips.

I was hoping sangoma cards could be more enterprise friendly. 


|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
|John Novack

|Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 4:57 PM
|To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
|Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?
|
|Have a 2FXO 2FXS card working now.
|More forgiving of the PCI bus. The software installation is a 
|little mean, with the outlined procedure making assumptions 
|about the installers knowledge and familiarity with Sangoma 
|products, and in some places it doesn't really discriminate 
|between their T1 and A200 cards.

|I found one defect in their FXS driver, which they have now fixed.
|
|Overall seems to be a good product, slightly more affordable 
|and less of a problem child than the Digium/TigerJet TDM400

|
|John Novack
|
|Anton Krall wrote:
|
|Has anybody used the sangoma fxo cards with asterisk? Anybody using 
|multiple cards? Problems with irq and such (same as with digium ones)?

|
| 
|

||-Original Message-
||
||Rich Adamson wrote:
||
||
|| While talking with one of the sangoma folks very recently, he was 
|| rather emphatic the pci bus was designed to share

||interrupts. I was
|| a little concerned as a test server had the wanpipe driver
||sharing an
|| interrupt with libata and uhc1_hcd. His comment was 
|that's the way 
|| its suppose to work, sharing interrupts as needed. I've 
|not had any 
|| recognizable issues with the A200D card at all, and faxing

||via a A200D
|| fxs port to a A200D fxo (pstn) port functions 100% reliably.
||
|| What that would suggest is the TDM400 pci firmware 
|(whether on card 
|| logic or whatever) is the source of at least part of the

||TDM400 shared
|| interrupt issue. I don't have any digium T1/E1 cards 
|laying around, 
|| but if memory serves correctly, the T1/E1 cards do not use 
|the same 
|| pci controller chip. That would suggest the T1/E1 cards are

||less of an
|| issue then with the TDM400 card.
||
||That's good to know, but considering the response from Digium on the 
||TDM400 ( try another motherboard) when there didn't seem to 
|even be an 
||int. sharing issue, the card just couldn't be seen at all , and the 
||support I received from Sangoma on a recent FXS issue that was 
||resolved within a few days, I would tend to go with Sangoma 
|for the T1 
||card, if and when I have the need.

||
||John Novack


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?

2006-04-14 Thread Anton Krall
Well certainly sangoma cards are worth looking into now that they also offer
analog port cards, anybody knows if there is a reseller in Mexico? 

|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
|Rich Adamson
|Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 8:09 AM
|To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
|Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?
|
|I'd have to guess that combination of cards with almost any 
|mobo would be considered an overloaded system. If you replaced 
|the two TDM04b cards with an A200D or TDM2400 card, most of 
|those irqmisses (etc) would probably go away; but that's a 
|somewhat educated guess on my part.
|
|Factually, the sangoma cards integrate with the pci bus in a 
|much more stable/usable way then does the digium TDM card (and 
|I believe the te110 if it uses the TigerJet pci chip).
|
|
|Anton Krall wrote:
| My main concerns would be, can you have multiple cards like 
|this on a 
| system, for example, I now have a te110p and 2 tdm04b and Im getting 
| irqmisses on the te110p (according to zttool and zttest) which makes 
| fax receiving on the te110p almost impossible.. Plus, voice 
|is getting 
| frame slips.
| 
| I was hoping sangoma cards could be more enterprise friendly. 
| 
| |-Original Message-
| |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
| |Novack
| |Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 4:57 PM
| |To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
| |Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?
| |
| |Have a 2FXO 2FXS card working now.
| |More forgiving of the PCI bus. The software installation is 
|a little 
| |mean, with the outlined procedure making assumptions about the 
| |installers knowledge and familiarity with Sangoma products, and in 
| |some places it doesn't really discriminate between their T1 
|and A200 
| |cards.
| |I found one defect in their FXS driver, which they have now fixed.
| |
| |Overall seems to be a good product, slightly more 
|affordable and less 
| |of a problem child than the Digium/TigerJet TDM400
| |
| |John Novack
| |
| |Anton Krall wrote:
| |
| |Has anybody used the sangoma fxo cards with asterisk? 
|Anybody using 
| |multiple cards? Problems with irq and such (same as with 
|digium ones)?
| |
| | 
| |
| ||-Original Message-
| ||
| ||Rich Adamson wrote:
| ||
| ||
| || While talking with one of the sangoma folks very 
|recently, he was 
| || rather emphatic the pci bus was designed to share
| ||interrupts. I was
| || a little concerned as a test server had the wanpipe driver
| ||sharing an
| || interrupt with libata and uhc1_hcd. His comment was
| |that's the way
| || its suppose to work, sharing interrupts as needed. I've
| |not had any
| || recognizable issues with the A200D card at all, and faxing
| ||via a A200D
| || fxs port to a A200D fxo (pstn) port functions 100% reliably.
| ||
| || What that would suggest is the TDM400 pci firmware
| |(whether on card
| || logic or whatever) is the source of at least part of the
| ||TDM400 shared
| || interrupt issue. I don't have any digium T1/E1 cards
| |laying around,
| || but if memory serves correctly, the T1/E1 cards do not use
| |the same
| || pci controller chip. That would suggest the T1/E1 cards are
| ||less of an
| || issue then with the TDM400 card.
| ||
| ||That's good to know, but considering the response from Digium on 
| ||the TDM400 ( try another motherboard) when there didn't seem to
| |even be an
| ||int. sharing issue, the card just couldn't be seen at all 
|, and the 
| ||support I received from Sangoma on a recent FXS issue that was 
| ||resolved within a few days, I would tend to go with Sangoma
| |for the T1
| ||card, if and when I have the need.
| ||
| ||John Novack
|
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?

2006-04-14 Thread Matt
we are sangoma shop, very good quality and support.

Best Regards

Matt

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- Original Message - 
From: Anton Krall [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion' asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 3:35 PM
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?


 Well certainly sangoma cards are worth looking into now that they also
offer
 analog port cards, anybody knows if there is a reseller in Mexico?

 |-Original Message-
 |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 |Rich Adamson
 |Sent: Friday, April 14, 2006 8:09 AM
 |To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 |Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?
 |
 |I'd have to guess that combination of cards with almost any
 |mobo would be considered an overloaded system. If you replaced
 |the two TDM04b cards with an A200D or TDM2400 card, most of
 |those irqmisses (etc) would probably go away; but that's a
 |somewhat educated guess on my part.
 |
 |Factually, the sangoma cards integrate with the pci bus in a
 |much more stable/usable way then does the digium TDM card (and
 |I believe the te110 if it uses the TigerJet pci chip).
 |
 |
 |Anton Krall wrote:
 | My main concerns would be, can you have multiple cards like
 |this on a
 | system, for example, I now have a te110p and 2 tdm04b and Im getting
 | irqmisses on the te110p (according to zttool and zttest) which makes
 | fax receiving on the te110p almost impossible.. Plus, voice
 |is getting
 | frame slips.
 |
 | I was hoping sangoma cards could be more enterprise friendly.
 |
 | |-Original Message-
 | |From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 | |[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John
 | |Novack
 | |Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 4:57 PM
 | |To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 | |Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?
 | |
 | |Have a 2FXO 2FXS card working now.
 | |More forgiving of the PCI bus. The software installation is
 |a little
 | |mean, with the outlined procedure making assumptions about the
 | |installers knowledge and familiarity with Sangoma products, and in
 | |some places it doesn't really discriminate between their T1
 |and A200
 | |cards.
 | |I found one defect in their FXS driver, which they have now fixed.
 | |
 | |Overall seems to be a good product, slightly more
 |affordable and less
 | |of a problem child than the Digium/TigerJet TDM400
 | |
 | |John Novack
 | |
 | |Anton Krall wrote:
 | |
 | |Has anybody used the sangoma fxo cards with asterisk?
 |Anybody using
 | |multiple cards? Problems with irq and such (same as with
 |digium ones)?
 | |
 | |
 | |
 | ||-Original Message-
 | ||
 | ||Rich Adamson wrote:
 | ||
 | ||
 | || While talking with one of the sangoma folks very
 |recently, he was
 | || rather emphatic the pci bus was designed to share
 | ||interrupts. I was
 | || a little concerned as a test server had the wanpipe driver
 | ||sharing an
 | || interrupt with libata and uhc1_hcd. His comment was
 | |that's the way
 | || its suppose to work, sharing interrupts as needed. I've
 | |not had any
 | || recognizable issues with the A200D card at all, and faxing
 | ||via a A200D
 | || fxs port to a A200D fxo (pstn) port functions 100% reliably.
 | ||
 | || What that would suggest is the TDM400 pci firmware
 | |(whether on card
 | || logic or whatever) is the source of at least part of the
 | ||TDM400 shared
 | || interrupt issue. I don't have any digium T1/E1 cards
 | |laying around,
 | || but if memory serves correctly, the T1/E1 cards do not use
 | |the same
 | || pci controller chip. That would suggest the T1/E1 cards are
 | ||less of an
 | || issue then with the TDM400 card.
 | ||
 | ||That's good to know, but considering the response from Digium on
 | ||the TDM400 ( try another motherboard) when there didn't seem to
 | |even be an
 | ||int. sharing issue, the card just couldn't be seen at all
 |, and the
 | ||support I received from Sangoma on a recent FXS issue that was
 | ||resolved within a few days, I would tend to go with Sangoma
 | |for the T1
 | ||card, if and when I have the need.
 | ||
 | ||John Novack
 |
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?

2006-04-13 Thread Anton Krall
Has anybody used the sangoma fxo cards with asterisk? Anybody using multiple
cards? Problems with irq and such (same as with digium ones)?

 

|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
|John Novack
|Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:29 AM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Cc: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
|Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?
|
|
|
|Rich Adamson wrote:
|
|
| While talking with one of the sangoma folks very recently, he was 
| rather emphatic the pci bus was designed to share 
|interrupts. I was 
| a little concerned as a test server had the wanpipe driver 
|sharing an 
| interrupt with libata and uhc1_hcd. His comment was that's the way 
| its suppose to work, sharing interrupts as needed. I've not had any 
| recognizable issues with the A200D card at all, and faxing 
|via a A200D 
| fxs port to a A200D fxo (pstn) port functions 100% reliably.
|
| What that would suggest is the TDM400 pci firmware (whether on card 
| logic or whatever) is the source of at least part of the 
|TDM400 shared 
| interrupt issue. I don't have any digium T1/E1 cards laying around, 
| but if memory serves correctly, the T1/E1 cards do not use the same 
| pci controller chip. That would suggest the T1/E1 cards are 
|less of an 
| issue then with the TDM400 card.
|
|That's good to know, but considering the response from Digium 
|on the TDM400 ( try another motherboard) when there didn't 
|seem to even be an int. sharing issue, the card just couldn't 
|be seen at all , and the support I received from Sangoma on a 
|recent FXS issue that was resolved within a few days, I would 
|tend to go with Sangoma for the T1 card, if and when I have the need.
|
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?

2006-04-13 Thread Rich Adamson

Anton Krall wrote:
Has anybody used the sangoma fxo cards with asterisk? 


Yes

Anybody using multiple cards? 


Not tried it, but the A200D card can handle 24 ports (mix and match fxo 
and fxs modules) with a single pci bus interface.



Problems with irq and such (same as with digium ones)?


Nope. Seems to handle at least some limited interrupt sharing just fine. 
Would guess audio quality would drop if the interrupt structure was 
heavily loaded though.


Nope. Seems to handle at least some limited interrupt sharing just fine. Would guess   



|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
|John Novack

|Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:29 AM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Cc: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
|Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?
|
|
|
|Rich Adamson wrote:
|
|
| While talking with one of the sangoma folks very recently, he was 
| rather emphatic the pci bus was designed to share 
|interrupts. I was 
| a little concerned as a test server had the wanpipe driver 
|sharing an 
| interrupt with libata and uhc1_hcd. His comment was that's the way 
| its suppose to work, sharing interrupts as needed. I've not had any 
| recognizable issues with the A200D card at all, and faxing 
|via a A200D 
| fxs port to a A200D fxo (pstn) port functions 100% reliably.

|
| What that would suggest is the TDM400 pci firmware (whether on card 
| logic or whatever) is the source of at least part of the 
|TDM400 shared 
| interrupt issue. I don't have any digium T1/E1 cards laying around, 
| but if memory serves correctly, the T1/E1 cards do not use the same 
| pci controller chip. That would suggest the T1/E1 cards are 
|less of an 
| issue then with the TDM400 card.

|
|That's good to know, but considering the response from Digium 
|on the TDM400 ( try another motherboard) when there didn't 
|seem to even be an int. sharing issue, the card just couldn't 
|be seen at all , and the support I received from Sangoma on a 
|recent FXS issue that was resolved within a few days, I would 
|tend to go with Sangoma for the T1 card, if and when I have the need.

|
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?

2006-04-13 Thread John Novack

Have a 2FXO 2FXS card working now.
More forgiving of the PCI bus. The software installation is a little 
mean, with the outlined procedure making assumptions about the 
installers knowledge and familiarity with Sangoma products, and in some 
places it doesn't really discriminate between their T1 and A200 cards.

I found one defect in their FXS driver, which they have now fixed.

Overall seems to be a good product, slightly more affordable and less of 
a problem child than the Digium/TigerJet TDM400


John Novack

Anton Krall wrote:


Has anybody used the sangoma fxo cards with asterisk? Anybody using multiple
cards? Problems with irq and such (same as with digium ones)?



|-Original Message-
|From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
|[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
|John Novack

|Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:29 AM
|To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|Cc: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
|Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?
|
|
|
|Rich Adamson wrote:
|
|
| While talking with one of the sangoma folks very recently, he was 
| rather emphatic the pci bus was designed to share 
|interrupts. I was 
| a little concerned as a test server had the wanpipe driver 
|sharing an 
| interrupt with libata and uhc1_hcd. His comment was that's the way 
| its suppose to work, sharing interrupts as needed. I've not had any 
| recognizable issues with the A200D card at all, and faxing 
|via a A200D 
| fxs port to a A200D fxo (pstn) port functions 100% reliably.

|
| What that would suggest is the TDM400 pci firmware (whether on card 
| logic or whatever) is the source of at least part of the 
|TDM400 shared 
| interrupt issue. I don't have any digium T1/E1 cards laying around, 
| but if memory serves correctly, the T1/E1 cards do not use the same 
| pci controller chip. That would suggest the T1/E1 cards are 
|less of an 
| issue then with the TDM400 card.

|
|That's good to know, but considering the response from Digium 
|on the TDM400 ( try another motherboard) when there didn't 
|seem to even be an int. sharing issue, the card just couldn't 
|be seen at all , and the support I received from Sangoma on a 
|recent FXS issue that was resolved within a few days, I would 
|tend to go with Sangoma for the T1 card, if and when I have the need.

|
|John Novack
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?

2006-04-12 Thread RandyW
Yep, there is a lot of chatter about how hardware x performs with 
Asterisk and while I/O is the primary mover, most designs today will 
handle the modest Asterisk install easily.   I've got a site where they 
use 6 lines and 15 users on a 500Mhz CPU w/512MB RAM and boot off a 2GB 
flash disk.


VERY modest and absolutely dominates that particular install.

Only in the larger installs will hardware be an issue, but even then it 
doesn't take much hardware (from a server perspective) to handle a LOT 
of Asterisk traffic.


RandyW

Waldo Rubinstein wrote:
AFAIK, it doesn't make much of a difference if all you are going to be 
mainly using is the TE card. From what I've heard and seen, a single 
P4 3GHz machine will handle a fully loaded TE4XX board with no problem.


- Waldo

On Apr 11, 2006, at 10:30 PM, Tim Connolly wrote:

   I was offered an upgrade path for my two Dell 1750's (2.8 Dual 
Xeon) to get into a pair of new Dual Core Dual Opteron servers. 
Assuming I can get the IRQ BS worked out so my TE411XP doesn't flip 
out, this should be a pretty significant upgrade. Has anyone been 
able to quantify any benefits to using one processor over the other? 
Should I wait for the newer Intel processors this summer or go for 
the AMD DC DO?


Thanks
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?

2006-04-12 Thread John Novack



RandyW wrote:

Yep, there is a lot of chatter about how hardware x performs with 
Asterisk and while I/O is the primary mover, most designs today will 
handle the modest Asterisk install easily.   I've got a site where 
they use 6 lines and 15 users on a 500Mhz CPU w/512MB RAM and boot off 
a 2GB flash disk.


VERY modest and absolutely dominates that particular install.

Only in the larger installs will hardware be an issue, but even then 
it doesn't take much hardware (from a server perspective) to handle a 
LOT of Asterisk traffic.


RandyW

The worst problem will be older hardware that doesn't play well with 
Digium cards. The TDM400 is the one I have some experience with, and 
even motherboards that are PCI 2.2 don't always see the TDM400

The Sangoma A200 seems more forgiving.
I have to wonder if the T1/E1 cards suffer  in a similar manner?

John Novack


Waldo Rubinstein wrote:

AFAIK, it doesn't make much of a difference if all you are going to 
be mainly using is the TE card. From what I've heard and seen, a 
single P4 3GHz machine will handle a fully loaded TE4XX board with no 
problem.


- Waldo

On Apr 11, 2006, at 10:30 PM, Tim Connolly wrote:

   I was offered an upgrade path for my two Dell 1750's (2.8 Dual 
Xeon) to get into a pair of new Dual Core Dual Opteron servers. 
Assuming I can get the IRQ BS worked out so my TE411XP doesn't flip 
out, this should be a pretty significant upgrade. Has anyone been 
able to quantify any benefits to using one processor over the other? 
Should I wait for the newer Intel processors this summer or go for 
the AMD DC DO?


Thanks
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?

2006-04-12 Thread Rich Adamson
Yep, there is a lot of chatter about how hardware x performs with 
Asterisk and while I/O is the primary mover, most designs today will 
handle the modest Asterisk install easily.   I've got a site where 
they use 6 lines and 15 users on a 500Mhz CPU w/512MB RAM and boot off 
a 2GB flash disk.


VERY modest and absolutely dominates that particular install.

Only in the larger installs will hardware be an issue, but even then 
it doesn't take much hardware (from a server perspective) to handle a 
LOT of Asterisk traffic.


RandyW

The worst problem will be older hardware that doesn't play well with 
Digium cards. The TDM400 is the one I have some experience with, and 
even motherboards that are PCI 2.2 don't always see the TDM400

The Sangoma A200 seems more forgiving.
I have to wonder if the T1/E1 cards suffer  in a similar manner?


While talking with one of the sangoma folks very recently, he was rather 
emphatic the pci bus was designed to share interrupts. I was a little 
concerned as a test server had the wanpipe driver sharing an interrupt 
with libata and uhc1_hcd. His comment was that's the way its suppose to 
work, sharing interrupts as needed. I've not had any recognizable 
issues with the A200D card at all, and faxing via a A200D fxs port to a 
A200D fxo (pstn) port functions 100% reliably.


What that would suggest is the TDM400 pci firmware (whether on card 
logic or whatever) is the source of at least part of the TDM400 shared 
interrupt issue. I don't have any digium T1/E1 cards laying around, but 
if memory serves correctly, the T1/E1 cards do not use the same pci 
controller chip. That would suggest the T1/E1 cards are less of an issue 
then with the TDM400 card.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?

2006-04-12 Thread Kristian Kielhofner

Rich Adamson wrote:
Yep, there is a lot of chatter about how hardware x performs with 
Asterisk and while I/O is the primary mover, most designs today will 
handle the modest Asterisk install easily.   I've got a site where 
they use 6 lines and 15 users on a 500Mhz CPU w/512MB RAM and boot 
off a 2GB flash disk.


VERY modest and absolutely dominates that particular install.

Only in the larger installs will hardware be an issue, but even then 
it doesn't take much hardware (from a server perspective) to handle a 
LOT of Asterisk traffic.


RandyW

The worst problem will be older hardware that doesn't play well with 
Digium cards. The TDM400 is the one I have some experience with, and 
even motherboards that are PCI 2.2 don't always see the TDM400

The Sangoma A200 seems more forgiving.
I have to wonder if the T1/E1 cards suffer  in a similar manner?



While talking with one of the sangoma folks very recently, he was rather 
emphatic the pci bus was designed to share interrupts. I was a little 
concerned as a test server had the wanpipe driver sharing an interrupt 
with libata and uhc1_hcd. His comment was that's the way its suppose to 
work, sharing interrupts as needed. I've not had any recognizable 
issues with the A200D card at all, and faxing via a A200D fxs port to a 
A200D fxo (pstn) port functions 100% reliably.


What that would suggest is the TDM400 pci firmware (whether on card 
logic or whatever) is the source of at least part of the TDM400 shared 
interrupt issue. I don't have any digium T1/E1 cards laying around, but 
if memory serves correctly, the T1/E1 cards do not use the same pci 
controller chip. That would suggest the T1/E1 cards are less of an issue 
then with the TDM400 card.




The single port T1/E1 card (te110p) and the TDM400 both use the TigerJet 
320.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?

2006-04-12 Thread Rich Adamson

Kristian Kielhofner wrote:

Rich Adamson wrote:
Yep, there is a lot of chatter about how hardware x performs with 
Asterisk and while I/O is the primary mover, most designs today will 
handle the modest Asterisk install easily.   I've got a site where 
they use 6 lines and 15 users on a 500Mhz CPU w/512MB RAM and boot 
off a 2GB flash disk.


VERY modest and absolutely dominates that particular install.

Only in the larger installs will hardware be an issue, but even then 
it doesn't take much hardware (from a server perspective) to handle 
a LOT of Asterisk traffic.


RandyW

The worst problem will be older hardware that doesn't play well with 
Digium cards. The TDM400 is the one I have some experience with, and 
even motherboards that are PCI 2.2 don't always see the TDM400

The Sangoma A200 seems more forgiving.
I have to wonder if the T1/E1 cards suffer  in a similar manner?



While talking with one of the sangoma folks very recently, he was 
rather emphatic the pci bus was designed to share interrupts. I was 
a little concerned as a test server had the wanpipe driver sharing an 
interrupt with libata and uhc1_hcd. His comment was that's the way 
its suppose to work, sharing interrupts as needed. I've not had any 
recognizable issues with the A200D card at all, and faxing via a A200D 
fxs port to a A200D fxo (pstn) port functions 100% reliably.


What that would suggest is the TDM400 pci firmware (whether on card 
logic or whatever) is the source of at least part of the TDM400 shared 
interrupt issue. I don't have any digium T1/E1 cards laying around, 
but if memory serves correctly, the T1/E1 cards do not use the same 
pci controller chip. That would suggest the T1/E1 cards are less of an 
issue then with the TDM400 card.




The single port T1/E1 card (te110p) and the TDM400 both use the TigerJet 
320.


I guess they both would have the same issues then. ;)

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?

2006-04-12 Thread John Novack



Rich Adamson wrote:



While talking with one of the sangoma folks very recently, he was 
rather emphatic the pci bus was designed to share interrupts. I was 
a little concerned as a test server had the wanpipe driver sharing an 
interrupt with libata and uhc1_hcd. His comment was that's the way 
its suppose to work, sharing interrupts as needed. I've not had any 
recognizable issues with the A200D card at all, and faxing via a A200D 
fxs port to a A200D fxo (pstn) port functions 100% reliably.


What that would suggest is the TDM400 pci firmware (whether on card 
logic or whatever) is the source of at least part of the TDM400 shared 
interrupt issue. I don't have any digium T1/E1 cards laying around, 
but if memory serves correctly, the T1/E1 cards do not use the same 
pci controller chip. That would suggest the T1/E1 cards are less of an 
issue then with the TDM400 card.


That's good to know, but considering the response from Digium on the 
TDM400 ( try another motherboard) when there didn't seem to even be an 
int. sharing issue, the card just couldn't be seen at all , and the 
support I received from Sangoma on a recent FXS issue that was resolved 
within a few days, I would tend to go with Sangoma for the T1 card, if 
and when I have the need.


John Novack

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[Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?

2006-04-11 Thread Tim Connolly
   I was offered an upgrade path for my two Dell 1750's (2.8 Dual Xeon) 
to get into a pair of new Dual Core Dual Opteron servers. Assuming I can 
get the IRQ BS worked out so my TE411XP doesn't flip out, this should be 
a pretty significant upgrade. Has anyone been able to quantify any 
benefits to using one processor over the other? Should I wait for the 
newer Intel processors this summer or go for the AMD DC DO?


Thanks
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Performance: Xeon or Opteron?

2006-04-11 Thread Waldo Rubinstein
AFAIK, it doesn't make much of a difference if all you are going to  
be mainly using is the TE card. From what I've heard and seen, a  
single P4 3GHz machine will handle a fully loaded TE4XX board with no  
problem.


- Waldo

On Apr 11, 2006, at 10:30 PM, Tim Connolly wrote:

   I was offered an upgrade path for my two Dell 1750's (2.8 Dual  
Xeon) to get into a pair of new Dual Core Dual Opteron servers.  
Assuming I can get the IRQ BS worked out so my TE411XP doesn't flip  
out, this should be a pretty significant upgrade. Has anyone been  
able to quantify any benefits to using one processor over the  
other? Should I wait for the newer Intel processors this summer or  
go for the AMD DC DO?


Thanks
Tim

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