Cory Andrews wrote:
Has anyone tried the Linksys SRW224P? 24 Port managed switch, 10/100, 2
Gig Uplink Ports, PoE:
a.. Delivers reliable power over 10/100 Ethernet ports using IEEE
802.3af standard
b.. Secure management via SSH/SSL and secure user control via 802.1x
MAC filtering
c.. IGMP
Inline...
Interesting,
So are there any sort of specifications to look for? What your talking
about does not sound like a managed vs unmanaged issue. More like cheap
crap vs half decent. I would never want any switch to drop packets VoIP or
not. Does not sound like QoS could help
Has anyone tried the Linksys SRW224P? 24 Port managed switch, 10/100, 2 Gig
Uplink Ports, PoE:
a.. Delivers reliable power over 10/100 Ethernet ports using IEEE 802.3af
standard
b.. Secure management via SSH/SSL and secure user control via 802.1x MAC
filtering
c.. IGMP snooping,
25, 2006 3:52 AM
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Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] What business IP phone to use
Inline...
Interesting,
So are there any sort of specifications to look for? What your
talking about does not sound like a managed vs unmanaged
How does a large file transfer like your excel spreadsheet
example, affect communication between an Asterisk server and
SIP phone? The only possible configuration I can think of
that would cause a problem is if the client PC is sharing the
same eternet cable and therefore the same
mustardman29 wrote:
I have one question,
How does a large file transfer like your excel spreadsheet example, affect
communication between an Asterisk server and SIP phone? The only possible
configuration I can think of that would cause a problem is if the client PC
is sharing the same eternet
...or if your
asterisk server is also a file server (which should never be
done)
I know I'm attracting flames for disagreeing, but sometimes when you're
dealing with small business customers there simply isn't the budget to have
separate machines for doing x, y and z, and often one finds the
Chris Bagnall wrote:
...or if your
asterisk server is also a file server (which should never be
done)
I know I'm attracting flames for disagreeing, but sometimes when you're
dealing with small business customers there simply isn't the budget to have
separate machines for doing x, y and z, and
On 2/25/06, Chris Bagnall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's a fascinating thread, this.
So, for all the criticism, I'll continue using cheap switches, recycled
Chris, I mostly agree.. In Europe a 'small' business often only counts
2 - 5 persons. When the budget doesn't allow it, the only way one
I have one question,
How does a large file transfer like your excel spreadsheet example, affect
communication between an Asterisk server and SIP phone? The only possible
configuration I can think of that would cause a problem is if the client PC
is sharing the same eternet cable and
How does a large file transfer like your excel spreadsheet
example, affect communication between an Asterisk server and
SIP phone? The only possible configuration I can think of
that would cause a problem is if the client PC is sharing the
same eternet cable and therefore the same
On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 17:19 +, Chris Bagnall wrote:
...or if your
asterisk server is also a file server (which should never be
done)
I know I'm attracting flames for disagreeing, but sometimes when you're
dealing with small business customers there simply isn't the budget to have
On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 10:54 +1100, David Ankers wrote:
Are you sure those switch figures are right? 16ms delay in the switch path
sounds a bit long. Cisco's mid-range switches like the 2950 have switching
times measured in micro seconds. Then again a 2626 procurve is only around
$700.
I meant
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Are you sure those switch figures are right? 16ms delay in the switch path
sounds a bit long. Cisco's mid-range switches like the 2950 have switching
times measured in micro seconds. Then again
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It must be microseconds that is being quoted, as even the 2626 that you
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It must be microseconds that is being quoted, as even the 2626 that you
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On Sat, 2006-02-25 at 00:21 +1100, David Ankers wrote:
Aha, micro seconds in networking terms is normally written usecs or us
(actually it's the greek letter mu as in ulaw) rather than ms which are
milliseconds seconds - what had me puzzled was that it was stated that this
could harm the voice
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 18:02:27 -0800, mustardman29 wrote:
Just the person I have been looking for. If you don't mind, would it be
possible to get your opinion on feature for feature comparisons between the
501 and 480i CT(not including cordless phone).
Things like programmable buttons, display,
Polycom does support Asterisk, Asterisk Business Edition.
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On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 10:54 +1100, David Ankers wrote:
Are you sure those switch figures are right? 16ms delay in
the switch
path sounds a bit long. Cisco's mid-range switches like the
2950
Aha, micro seconds in networking terms is normally written usecs or us
(actually it's the greek letter mu as in ulaw) rather than ms which are
milliseconds seconds - what had me puzzled was that it was stated that this
could harm the voice path!
The difference can also cause unnecessary
you should never have to view what is going on in there
anyways.
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Interesting,
So are there any sort of specifications to look for? What your talking
about does not sound like a managed vs unmanaged issue. More like cheap
Simple formula:
1. Total Revenue
2. % of revenue derived from phone usage
3. =Cost of downtime by using SoHo or consumer gear.
It's not a question of if a SoHo or low cost device will screw up, it is a
question of when. This is 23 years of experience talking.
Where I work, the value
The cost saving of being able to pin-point a cabling/NIC/bandwidth
problem down to the port on the switch easily and quickly is wonderful
We also use 3com NJ-200's which is a 4 port switch in a wall plate that has
SNMP and other goodies. I can troubleshoot down to the wall plate, anywhere
in the
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Simple formula:
1. Total Revenue
2. % of revenue derived from phone usage
3. =Cost of downtime by using SoHo or consumer
On Thu, 2006-02-23 at 15:48 -0700, Colin Anderson wrote:
The cost saving of being able to pin-point a cabling/NIC/bandwidth
problem down to the port on the switch easily and quickly is wonderful
We also use 3com NJ-200's which is a 4 port switch in a wall plate that has
SNMP and other
On 2/22/06, Clint Sharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I had to drop 1.0.1.12 because it has a serious handset volume issue that
seems to cut the handset volume in half. Fix one bug, cause another.
True, but the latest (beta, okay, but does that matter?) firmware
fixes bot and some other. Please
Any news about new Snom 300?
Mimmus
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On Tuesday 21 Feb 2006 23:16, Chris Bagnall wrote:
£40! That would be a cheap and nasty switch with no prospect
of any management. A managed switch is worth its weight in
gold, /especially/ when you have to look after things remotely.
How does one justify the extra cost of a managed switch
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Cory Andrews wrote:
Clint - Looks like your wish has been granted, and your love affair with Snom
can continue. They are soon releasing the new Snom 300, which has most of the
features your are fond of in the 360 and 320 models, and should be quite near,
if not at, your
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Clint Sharp wrote:
2) GXP-2000: Not much better than the Budgetones, but at least the firmware
[...[
that phone's quality). The speakerphone is useless due to echo issues.
speakerphone echo bug was fixed in 1.0.1.12
-Dan
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, The VoIP Connection wrote:
The 941/942 are very nice phones. They are well made and so far the firmware
seems very solid, but like their Cisco brethren they are a little expensive
for what they offer in my opinion. If they were 25-30% cheaper I would be a
lot more
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It's funny this thread has been coming up, because I've been
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It's funny this thread has been coming up, because I've been testing out phones at my office, and I just did a fairly intensive quality test
m... (see my address!). Please excuse
my excitement.
Christian
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Do you know when it's coming out? What will the price be?- WaldoOn Feb 22, 2006, at 1:18 AM, Cory Andrews wrote: Clint - Looks like your wish has been granted, and your love affair with Snom can continue. They are soon releasing the new Snom 300, which has most of the features your are fond of in
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The PCB has PoE prepared - if you open it you will see that there is a lot
of space where you
can solder all kinds of resistors and capacitors.
Thats for PoE. However we decided that we don't place the necessary
components because it would
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How does one justify the extra cost of a managed switch for an office
of no more than 5-10 users with limited SMB file sharing and
lightweight internet access going over the thing? It's just not doable
I had to drop 1.0.1.12 because it has a serious handset volume issue that seems to cut the handset volume in half. Fix one bug, cause another.
Clint
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On Wed, 22 Feb 2006, Clint Sharp wrote: 2) GXP-2000: Not much better than the Budgetones, but
1) Budgetones: Don't bother for a business setting. The speaker phone
is basically useless (echo problems) and the handset is horrible. If
you follow the suggestion on the Wiki to drill out the handset, it
improves things marginally, but not much. Users talking to you will
constantly
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It's funny this thread has been coming up, because I've been
testing out phones at my office
I have been struggling with this issue for about a year now. There were
just too many IP phones to choose from at all sorts of price points and not
enough information about any of them. Now I am looking at the situation
again and if anything it has gotten worse. There are even more phones
think it would get used...
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I have been struggling
I hear some
people praising the GXP2000 phones and I gotta wonder what
they are smokin (regardless of firmware revison) so I just
don't know who to believe anymore.
As one of those who's praised the GXP2000, I feel I should just add that
it's all relative *to the price point*. The GXP2000
For every person that says phone x is great there is
someone else complaining about it.
Its very simple why there are soo many answers to the what phone to use
question. The answer really comes down to a matter of personal preferance
and end-users needs. Mind you, some phones are better
I agree with most of Raymond's other points, but I have to take issue with
this one:
1) If it doesn't support PoE I won't implement it. Support
phones with wall-warts or bricks is just a added hassle and
adds TCO as most end up being replaced once or twice during
the lifetime of the phone
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, mustardman29 wrote:
I hear some people praising the GXP2000 phones and I gotta wonder
what they are smokin (regardless of firmware revison) so I just don't know
who to believe anymore.
The GXP2000 is probably the best phone you can buy _for under $100_.
Got it? Under
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Ross C wrote:
I wouldn't worry about the polycoms not 'officially' supporting asterisk.
LOTS of people use them with Asterisk (including myself).
The biggest gripes with polycoms seem to be: cumbersome config, 7 blf
limit (making the sidecars useless), and polycom's
On Tuesday 21 Feb 2006 19:55, Chris Bagnall wrote:
I agree with most of Raymond's other points, but I have to take issue with
this one:
1) If it doesn't support PoE I won't implement it. Support
phones with wall-warts or bricks is just a added hassle and
adds TCO as most end up being
www.thevoipconnection.com
321.989.6728 ext. 611
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I have been
.
Michael Crown
Managing Partner
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321.989.6728 ext. 611
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It's funny, but I found it more challening to buy a second hand car than to
buy phones.
PaulH
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) If it doesn't support PoE I won't implement it. Support phones with
wall-warts or bricks is just a added hassle and adds TCO as most end up
being replaced once or twice during the lifetime of the phone when someone
trips over them etc. With PoE switches from linksys starting at $500, there
is
£40! That would be a cheap and nasty switch with no prospect
of any management. A managed switch is worth its weight in
gold, /especially/ when you have to look after things remotely.
How does one justify the extra cost of a managed switch for an office of no
more than 5-10 users with
How does one justify the extra cost of a managed switch for an office of no
more than 5-10 users with limited SMB file sharing and lightweight internet
access going over the thing? It's just not doable. In larger organizations,
I agree entirely, a managed switch *is* worth its weight in gold, but
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I have used every phone and talk to customers using different
devices all day long and I can tell you there is no single IP
phone that is perfect for everyone. You will not find the
answer on a newsgroup or a wiki, you need
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Thanks Michael,
That sounds like good advice.
I am surprised that some customers like the GXP2000. Cheap
looking, cheap sounding, high
It's funny this thread has been coming up, because I've been testing out phones at my office, and I just did a fairly intensive quality test on them.1) Budgetones: Don't bother for a business setting. The speaker phone is basically useless (echo problems) and the handset is horrible. If you follow
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It's funny this thread
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