Re: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones

2008-05-22 Thread Daniel Lynes
Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy wrote:
> Glad to hear that, I do remember my aastra phone xfer button crashed
> asterisk every time i pressed it ;)
Odd.  I've been using Aastra phones for about 1-1/2 to 2 years now, and
never once have I had that problem.  I've had the Aastra phones crash
(BLF was quite buggy with firmware versions before a certain date), but
never have I had Asterisk itself crash because of a phone; not even some
cheap phones from Taiwan.

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Re: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones

2008-05-20 Thread Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy
Glad to hear that, I do remember my aastra phone xfer button crashed
asterisk every time i pressed it ;)

2008/5/20 Daniel Lynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy wrote:
> > Hmm, i dont like aastra really much, their transfer management is not
> human
> > friendly ;)
> >
> Fwiw, their new 9i series (9143, et al) have  BLF/xfer, speeddial/xfer
> feature that features one button transfer, eliminating the need for the
> transfer button for any preprogrammed extensions.
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Re: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones

2008-05-19 Thread Daniel Lynes
Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy wrote:
> Hmm, i dont like aastra really much, their transfer management is not human
> friendly ;)
>   
Fwiw, their new 9i series (9143, et al) have  BLF/xfer, speeddial/xfer
feature that features one button transfer, eliminating the need for the
transfer button for any preprogrammed extensions.

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Re: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones

2008-05-19 Thread John Meksavan

I have the SPA962 with the SPA932 side car and it works great, once I got it to 
configure correctly for my Asterisk PBX system, which has a Digium TDM03B WILD 
CARD installed.  I like the Cisco/Linksys SPA models because they have good and 
easy configuration webpages for the VOIP phones.

Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 18:51:09 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones

Hmm, i dont like aastra really much, their transfer management is not human 
friendly ;)

Polycom or Snom is our choice (snom 340)

2008/5/18 Sigma Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I am new to asterisk and am looking to setup a small office with 4-6 IP

> phones and 4 analog lines from the local telco (primary line with HUNT

> to the other lines). I am considering purchase of a Digium AEX800.

>

> One of the features that will be important (particularly for the

> receptionist desk is to show status of the other lines in use). I don't

> want the receptionist to pick up a line if it being used.

>

> Is there a list of phones that are BLF (Busy Lamp Field) compatible? I'm

> assuming (after reading tons of misc articles) that this is what I need

> in order for the receptionist not to pick up lines in use. If this is

> not the case please set me straight.

>

> I am considering the cisco 7960's, linksys SPA942, and possibly some

> polycom phones. I was leaning toward the 7960 but I've read that it is

> not BLF compatible. Are there any workarounds for this? I am new to the

> game and would be grateful for any recommendations on which phones would

> be the easiest to setup, etc. I currently have a working asterisk

> install at home with a single cisco 7960 registered which isn't hooked

> up to any trunks as of yet.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Dayton Gray

>

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I concur with one of the earlier posts that the Aastra 57i (or 57iCT)

with the 560m LCD side car works very well.   LCD side cars are ideal

because they're alway up to date and paper based sidecars look messy.



The Aastra 57iCT is unique in that it adds a portable handset which

gives the admin the ability to go to other parts of the office and still

handle calls.



The Polycom 650 with it's sidecar also works well with BLF.







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Re: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones

2008-05-19 Thread Matt Watson
On May 19, 2008 12:51:09 pm Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy wrote:
> Hmm, i dont like aastra really much, their transfer management is not human
> friendly ;)

What do you mean by that?  I've run my Aastra's with BLF using both 
Aastra's 'blf' mode and 'blfxfer' mode... the former is basically attended 
transfer, and the later is basically blind transfer... both of which our 
staff haven;t had any problems with.

using 'blf' its basically
1. press xfer
2. press blf key
3. ask if they want to take the call
4. press xfer again

using 'blfxfer' its:
1. press blf key 

In both modes the blf keys also act as speed-dial keys.

I don't really see how either of those is not 'human friendly'?  Or maybe I'm 
just completely off on what you mean.


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Re: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones

2008-05-19 Thread Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy
Hmm, i dont like aastra really much, their transfer management is not human
friendly ;)

Polycom or Snom is our choice (snom 340)

2008/5/18 Sigma Networks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I am new to asterisk and am looking to setup a small office with 4-6 IP
> > phones and 4 analog lines from the local telco (primary line with HUNT
> > to the other lines). I am considering purchase of a Digium AEX800.
> >
> > One of the features that will be important (particularly for the
> > receptionist desk is to show status of the other lines in use). I don't
> > want the receptionist to pick up a line if it being used.
> >
> > Is there a list of phones that are BLF (Busy Lamp Field) compatible? I'm
> > assuming (after reading tons of misc articles) that this is what I need
> > in order for the receptionist not to pick up lines in use. If this is
> > not the case please set me straight.
> >
> > I am considering the cisco 7960's, linksys SPA942, and possibly some
> > polycom phones. I was leaning toward the 7960 but I've read that it is
> > not BLF compatible. Are there any workarounds for this? I am new to the
> > game and would be grateful for any recommendations on which phones would
> > be the easiest to setup, etc. I currently have a working asterisk
> > install at home with a single cisco 7960 registered which isn't hooked
> > up to any trunks as of yet.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dayton Gray
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> I concur with one of the earlier posts that the Aastra 57i (or 57iCT)
> with the 560m LCD side car works very well.   LCD side cars are ideal
> because they're alway up to date and paper based sidecars look messy.
>
> The Aastra 57iCT is unique in that it adds a portable handset which
> gives the admin the ability to go to other parts of the office and still
> handle calls.
>
> The Polycom 650 with it's sidecar also works well with BLF.
>
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones

2008-05-18 Thread Sigma Networks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am new to asterisk and am looking to setup a small office with 4-6 IP
> phones and 4 analog lines from the local telco (primary line with HUNT
> to the other lines). I am considering purchase of a Digium AEX800.
>
> One of the features that will be important (particularly for the
> receptionist desk is to show status of the other lines in use). I don't
> want the receptionist to pick up a line if it being used.
>
> Is there a list of phones that are BLF (Busy Lamp Field) compatible? I'm
> assuming (after reading tons of misc articles) that this is what I need
> in order for the receptionist not to pick up lines in use. If this is
> not the case please set me straight.
>
> I am considering the cisco 7960's, linksys SPA942, and possibly some
> polycom phones. I was leaning toward the 7960 but I've read that it is
> not BLF compatible. Are there any workarounds for this? I am new to the
> game and would be grateful for any recommendations on which phones would
> be the easiest to setup, etc. I currently have a working asterisk
> install at home with a single cisco 7960 registered which isn't hooked
> up to any trunks as of yet.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dayton Gray
>
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I concur with one of the earlier posts that the Aastra 57i (or 57iCT) 
with the 560m LCD side car works very well.   LCD side cars are ideal 
because they're alway up to date and paper based sidecars look messy.  

The Aastra 57iCT is unique in that it adds a portable handset which 
gives the admin the ability to go to other parts of the office and still 
handle calls.

The Polycom 650 with it's sidecar also works well with BLF.



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Re: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones

2008-05-13 Thread Steve Totaro
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 3:50 PM,  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  I am new to asterisk and am looking to setup a small office with 4-6 IP
>  phones and 4 analog lines from the local telco (primary line with HUNT
>  to the other lines). I am considering purchase of a Digium AEX800.
>
>  One of the features that will be important (particularly for the
>  receptionist desk is to show status of the other lines in use). I don't
>  want the receptionist to pick up a line if it being used.
>
>  Is there a list of phones that are BLF (Busy Lamp Field) compatible? I'm
>  assuming (after reading tons of misc articles) that this is what I need
>  in order for the receptionist not to pick up lines in use. If this is
>  not the case please set me straight.
>
>  I am considering the cisco 7960's, linksys SPA942, and possibly some
>  polycom phones. I was leaning toward the 7960 but I've read that it is
>  not BLF compatible. Are there any workarounds for this? I am new to the
>  game and would be grateful for any recommendations on which phones would
>  be the easiest to setup, etc. I currently have a working asterisk
>  install at home with a single cisco 7960 registered which isn't hooked
>  up to any trunks as of yet.
>
>  Thanks,
>
>  Dayton Gray
>

You select lines with a "Key System", a "PBX" simply uses a pool of
lines.  You may not even need or want any BLF (Busy Lamp Field) or SLA
(Shared Line Appearances) because Asterisk is a PBX (for the most
part).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_branch_exchange

"PBXs are differentiated from "key systems" in that users of key
systems manually select their own outgoing lines, while PBXs select
the outgoing line automatically. Hybrid systems combine features of
both."

Thanks,
Steve Totaro

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Re: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones

2008-05-13 Thread Rob Hillis
SPA942s do not currently support BLF keys.  The four "lit" buttons are 
line keys only with the current firmware, although our Linksys rep has 
assured us that it's a feature to be supported soon.


John Signorello wrote:
> We use the linksys 942's and they work flawlessly and are easy to setup
>
> The CISCO phones do not come with SIP, you have to upgrade their 
> firmware from a TFTP server.
>
>   

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Re: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones

2008-05-13 Thread David Nedved
> One of the features that will be important (particularly for the
> receptionist desk is to show status of the other lines in use). I
> don't
> want the receptionist to pick up a line if it being used.

Hi Dayton,

It's even easier than that.  With an asterisk PBX your receptionist
shouldn't be "picking up" analog lines directly for either incoming or
outgoing calls.  S/he will be able to sit back and file their nails and
answer the phone when it rings, and to dial out just let asterisk
manage the lines for that as well.  You don't have to worry about
anyone managing the lines, let the software do the work.

If you fill up all the lines with either incoming or outgoing calls
you'll run into issues of course, but then it's a simple case of adding
lines to meet demand.  You will want to keep track of usage for this
purpose, but it need not be actively managed by the receptionist unless
you specifically want them to.  A small script is more reliable and
better for most cases.

If you've already got the server set up at home, dig through ATFOT a
little more and start configuring a line or two at home and you'll
start to realize how the config works.

Best regards,

David

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Re: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones

2008-05-13 Thread Matt Watson
I'm using Aastra 57i + 560M sidecars for receptionists... the only downside is 
that they support a max of 50 BLF subscriptions... you can setup up to 180 blf 
keys with 3 560Ms but it will still only subscribe to a max of 50... from what 
I understand it's a firmware limitation.

For 4-6 phones you could probably get away with doing it directly on the 57i 
with no 560M's (or 536M's) too many more phones and you'd need the sidecars 
just for the extra buttons I think.

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Subject: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones


I am new to asterisk and am looking to setup a small office with 4-6 IP
phones and 4 analog lines from the local telco (primary line with HUNT
to the other lines). I am considering purchase of a Digium AEX800.

One of the features that will be important (particularly for the
receptionist desk is to show status of the other lines in use). I don't
want the receptionist to pick up a line if it being used.

Is there a list of phones that are BLF (Busy Lamp Field) compatible? I'm
assuming (after reading tons of misc articles) that this is what I need
in order for the receptionist not to pick up lines in use. If this is
not the case please set me straight.

I am considering the cisco 7960's, linksys SPA942, and possibly some
polycom phones. I was leaning toward the 7960 but I've read that it is
not BLF compatible. Are there any workarounds for this? I am new to the
game and would be grateful for any recommendations on which phones would
be the easiest to setup, etc. I currently have a working asterisk
install at home with a single cisco 7960 registered which isn't hooked
up to any trunks as of yet.

Thanks,

Dayton Gray

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Re: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones

2008-05-13 Thread John Signorello
We use the linksys 942's and they work flawlessly and are easy to setup

The CISCO phones do not come with SIP, you have to upgrade their 
firmware from a TFTP server.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am new to asterisk and am looking to setup a small office with 4-6 IP
> phones and 4 analog lines from the local telco (primary line with HUNT
> to the other lines). I am considering purchase of a Digium AEX800.
>
> One of the features that will be important (particularly for the
> receptionist desk is to show status of the other lines in use). I don't
> want the receptionist to pick up a line if it being used.
>
> Is there a list of phones that are BLF (Busy Lamp Field) compatible? I'm
> assuming (after reading tons of misc articles) that this is what I need
> in order for the receptionist not to pick up lines in use. If this is
> not the case please set me straight.
>
> I am considering the cisco 7960's, linksys SPA942, and possibly some
> polycom phones. I was leaning toward the 7960 but I've read that it is
> not BLF compatible. Are there any workarounds for this? I am new to the
> game and would be grateful for any recommendations on which phones would
> be the easiest to setup, etc. I currently have a working asterisk
> install at home with a single cisco 7960 registered which isn't hooked
> up to any trunks as of yet.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dayton Gray
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones

2008-05-13 Thread Stefan Schmidt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
> I am new to asterisk and am looking to setup a small office with 4-6 IP
> phones and 4 analog lines from the local telco (primary line with HUNT
> to the other lines). I am considering purchase of a Digium AEX800.
> 
> One of the features that will be important (particularly for the
> receptionist desk is to show status of the other lines in use). I don't
> want the receptionist to pick up a line if it being used.
> 
> Is there a list of phones that are BLF (Busy Lamp Field) compatible? I'm
> assuming (after reading tons of misc articles) that this is what I need
> in order for the receptionist not to pick up lines in use. If this is
> not the case please set me straight.
> 
> I am considering the cisco 7960's, linksys SPA942, and possibly some
> polycom phones. I was leaning toward the 7960 but I've read that it is
> not BLF compatible. Are there any workarounds for this? I am new to the
> game and would be grateful for any recommendations on which phones would
> be the easiest to setup, etc. I currently have a working asterisk
> install at home with a single cisco 7960 registered which isn't hooked
> up to any trunks as of yet.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dayton Gray
> 
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Hello,

i would say that the best phone u can get at the moment is the Linksys 
SPA962 with an SPA932 Expansion Modul. Not only BLF and short dial works 
perfect without any problem, also a pickup runs without doing to much 
tricks in the asterisk config.

by the way the Spa942 doesnt have blf. Maybe this one could be 
interesting for u too (www.snom.com) the Snom360 but it has some bugs, 
but all of the one u said have less or more :)

best regards

steve smith

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[asterisk-users] BLF Compatible Phones

2008-05-13 Thread dgray

I am new to asterisk and am looking to setup a small office with 4-6 IP
phones and 4 analog lines from the local telco (primary line with HUNT
to the other lines). I am considering purchase of a Digium AEX800.

One of the features that will be important (particularly for the
receptionist desk is to show status of the other lines in use). I don't
want the receptionist to pick up a line if it being used.

Is there a list of phones that are BLF (Busy Lamp Field) compatible? I'm
assuming (after reading tons of misc articles) that this is what I need
in order for the receptionist not to pick up lines in use. If this is
not the case please set me straight.

I am considering the cisco 7960's, linksys SPA942, and possibly some
polycom phones. I was leaning toward the 7960 but I've read that it is
not BLF compatible. Are there any workarounds for this? I am new to the
game and would be grateful for any recommendations on which phones would
be the easiest to setup, etc. I currently have a working asterisk
install at home with a single cisco 7960 registered which isn't hooked
up to any trunks as of yet.

Thanks,

Dayton Gray

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