Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
If you can use curl, and can do some text parsing and know regular expressions, you may be able to use this free CNAM service: http://www.numberguru.com/ and integrate into your system. This one appears to have a more complete database. When I tried my number, I have gotten my full name, but when I use the FreeCNAM project below, I just get Florida. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Michael R. Wally michael.r.wa...@gmail.comwrote: I've been toying around with the idea of starting some kind of 'Open CNAM' project to destroy the current money hustle BS that dominates this industry. The ever-growing FreeCNAM database may be a good starting point for such a project. I would also like to use Bitcoin (BTC) as the micropayment solution for user-requested updates. Some nominal fee. If anyone wants to get involved, contact me. On 06/01/2011 07:51 AM, Skyler wrote: Hi, The junk in CNAM databases like FLORIDA, ONTARIO etc. is IMO the carrier's way to isolate their users and another excuse to charge more money for 'the better plan'. In the end, it's the carrier that inputs the info so if it shows FLORIDA with one database I can't see how any other database would be different as the carrier is the only one that controls the outbound CID info. Calling me from POTS to snatch the CID will result in the same. ...unless there were a user friendly CNAM service, where info could be updated by the end-user and queried freely by voip providers. I would update my cellular numbers for sure and know at least a dozen people that would do the same. Everyone is going VoIP so why not? Talking about 'where's the money or angle'... here is one, vanity. Charge $1/yr to a user per DID, if I don't renew then delete it and re-query the original carrier. S. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Pascal B. Personal Web Site http://www.pascalbruno.com/ Twitter: @petchaw -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
I just checked several of my numbers and several others known to me, it really isn't much better 2 of them returned names other than mine, and all had the wrong city, though at least the state was correct. All but one also had the wrong carrier. I fear these databases are are so full of errors that they are mostly worthless. John Novack Pascal Bruno wrote: If you can use curl, and can do some text parsing and know regular expressions, you may be able to use this free CNAM service: http://www.numberguru.com/ and integrate into your system. This one appears to have a more complete database. When I tried my number, I have gotten my full name, but when I use the FreeCNAM project below, I just get Florida. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Michael R. Wally michael.r.wa...@gmail.com mailto:michael.r.wa...@gmail.com wrote: I've been toying around with the idea of starting some kind of 'Open CNAM' project to destroy the current money hustle BS that dominates this industry. The ever-growing FreeCNAM database may be a good starting point for such a project. I would also like to use Bitcoin (BTC) as the micropayment solution for user-requested updates. Some nominal fee. If anyone wants to get involved, contact me. On 06/01/2011 07:51 AM, Skyler wrote: Hi, The junk in CNAM databases like FLORIDA, ONTARIO etc. is IMO the carrier's way to isolate their users and another excuse to charge more money for 'the better plan'. In the end, it's the carrier that inputs the info so if it shows FLORIDA with one database I can't see how any other database would be different as the carrier is the only one that controls the outbound CID info. Calling me from POTS to snatch the CID will result in the same. ...unless there were a user friendly CNAM service, where info could be updated by the end-user and queried freely by voip providers. I would update my cellular numbers for sure and know at least a dozen people that would do the same. Everyone is going VoIP so why not? Talking about 'where's the money or angle'... here is one, vanity. Charge $1/yr to a user per DID, if I don't renew then delete it and re-query the original carrier. S. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Pascal B. Personal Web Site http://www.pascalbruno.com/ Twitter: @petchaw -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Dog is my Co-pilot -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
Hi all, Let's get some feedback going here and see if there is any general support in a user-driven CNAM concept. Assuming that your landline/mobile outbound provider does not push caller-name + number for you with your calling plan. Would you pay $1/yr to have the access to update your own personal CNAM info in a database that you can trust to be correct? One that 1000's or even 100,000's of other voip/pbx owners will use? S. From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of John Novack Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 11:09 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM I just checked several of my numbers and several others known to me, it really isn't much better 2 of them returned names other than mine, and all had the wrong city, though at least the state was correct. All but one also had the wrong carrier. I fear these databases are are so full of errors that they are mostly worthless. John Novack Pascal Bruno wrote: If you can use curl, and can do some text parsing and know regular expressions, you may be able to use this free CNAM service: http://www.numberguru.com/ and integrate into your system. This one appears to have a more complete database. When I tried my number, I have gotten my full name, but when I use the FreeCNAM project below, I just get Florida. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Michael R. Wally michael.r.wa...@gmail.com wrote: I've been toying around with the idea of starting some kind of 'Open CNAM' project to destroy the current money hustle BS that dominates this industry. The ever-growing FreeCNAM database may be a good starting point for such a project. I would also like to use Bitcoin (BTC) as the micropayment solution for user-requested updates. Some nominal fee. If anyone wants to get involved, contact me. On 06/01/2011 07:51 AM, Skyler wrote: Hi, The junk in CNAM databases like FLORIDA, ONTARIO etc. is IMO the carrier's way to isolate their users and another excuse to charge more money for 'the better plan'. In the end, it's the carrier that inputs the info so if it shows FLORIDA with one database I can't see how any other database would be different as the carrier is the only one that controls the outbound CID info. Calling me from POTS to snatch the CID will result in the same. ...unless there were a user friendly CNAM service, where info could be updated by the end-user and queried freely by voip providers. I would update my cellular numbers for sure and know at least a dozen people that would do the same. Everyone is going VoIP so why not? Talking about 'where's the money or angle'... here is one, vanity. Charge $1/yr to a user per DID, if I don't renew then delete it and re-query the original carrier. S. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Pascal B. Personal Web Site http://www.pascalbruno.com/ Twitter: @petchaw -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Dog is my Co-pilot _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1511/3675 - Release Date: 06/02/11 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
On 5/29/2011 8:55 AM, Richard Kenner wrote: What happens when the CNAM is changed? How often does it go back and poll the database? That's actually a very very good question! Are entries in the database given a TTL/Expiration before being checked/researched again? Slainte, Sherwood McGowan -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
Cool topic! Our company (generationD) developed some CID scripts for free use, and we would be interested in building and hosting this service. On the spec side, how do we avoid users claiming numbers belonging to others? (Could be an admin nightmare) Do we allow number ranges? Do we require caching, or limit lookups? (If not then this can get real expensive to host real fast) Just some ideas... From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Skyler [skchopper...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 3:38 PM To: Asterisk Users List Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM Hi all, Let’s get some feedback going here and see if there is any general support in a user-driven CNAM concept. Assuming that your landline/mobile outbound provider does not push caller-name + number for you with your calling plan. Would you pay $1/yr to have the access to update your own personal CNAM info in a database that you can trust to be correct? One that 1000’s or even 100,000’s of other voip/pbx owners will use? S. From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of John Novack Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 11:09 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM I just checked several of my numbers and several others known to me, it really isn't much better 2 of them returned names other than mine, and all had the wrong city, though at least the state was correct. All but one also had the wrong carrier. I fear these databases are are so full of errors that they are mostly worthless. John Novack Pascal Bruno wrote: If you can use curl, and can do some text parsing and know regular expressions, you may be able to use this free CNAM service: http://www.numberguru.com/ and integrate into your system. This one appears to have a more complete database. When I tried my number, I have gotten my full name, but when I use the FreeCNAM project below, I just get Florida. On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Michael R. Wally michael.r.wa...@gmail.commailto:michael.r.wa...@gmail.com wrote: I've been toying around with the idea of starting some kind of 'Open CNAM' project to destroy the current money hustle BS that dominates this industry. The ever-growing FreeCNAM database may be a good starting point for such a project. I would also like to use Bitcoin (BTC) as the micropayment solution for user-requested updates. Some nominal fee. If anyone wants to get involved, contact me. On 06/01/2011 07:51 AM, Skyler wrote: Hi, The junk in CNAM databases like FLORIDA, ONTARIO etc. is IMO the carrier's way to isolate their users and another excuse to charge more money for 'the better plan'. In the end, it's the carrier that inputs the info so if it shows FLORIDA with one database I can't see how any other database would be different as the carrier is the only one that controls the outbound CID info. Calling me from POTS to snatch the CID will result in the same. ...unless there were a user friendly CNAM service, where info could be updated by the end-user and queried freely by voip providers. I would update my cellular numbers for sure and know at least a dozen people that would do the same. Everyone is going VoIP so why not? Talking about 'where's the money or angle'... here is one, vanity. Charge $1/yr to a user per DID, if I don't renew then delete it and re-query the original carrier. S. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Pascal B. Personal Web Sitehttp://www.pascalbruno.com/ Twitter: @petchaw -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Dog is my Co-pilot No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.comhttp://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1511/3675 - Release Date: 06/02/11 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
Hi, The junk in CNAM databases like FLORIDA, ONTARIO etc. is IMO the carrier's way to isolate their users and another excuse to charge more money for 'the better plan'. In the end, it's the carrier that inputs the info so if it shows FLORIDA with one database I can't see how any other database would be different as the carrier is the only one that controls the outbound CID info. Calling me from POTS to snatch the CID will result in the same. ...unless there were a user friendly CNAM service, where info could be updated by the end-user and queried freely by voip providers. I would update my cellular numbers for sure and know at least a dozen people that would do the same. Everyone is going VoIP so why not? Talking about 'where's the money or angle'... here is one, vanity. Charge $1/yr to a user per DID, if I don't renew then delete it and re-query the original carrier. S. -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Michael R. Wally Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 6:37 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM The system uses real Telco CNAM Dips. Any generic names you get are from the subscriber's carrier itself. We can only provide what we ourselves get. I tried it, but it returns the same kind of junk that some of the databases do. For example, on a Florida number, it just says FLORIDA instead of the proper name (some of the CNAM databases have the right name). -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1375 / Virus Database: 1509/3666 - Release Date: 05/28/11 -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
I've been toying around with the idea of starting some kind of 'Open CNAM' project to destroy the current money hustle BS that dominates this industry. The ever-growing FreeCNAM database may be a good starting point for such a project. I would also like to use Bitcoin (BTC) as the micropayment solution for user-requested updates. Some nominal fee. If anyone wants to get involved, contact me. On 06/01/2011 07:51 AM, Skyler wrote: Hi, The junk in CNAM databases like FLORIDA, ONTARIO etc. is IMO the carrier's way to isolate their users and another excuse to charge more money for 'the better plan'. In the end, it's the carrier that inputs the info so if it shows FLORIDA with one database I can't see how any other database would be different as the carrier is the only one that controls the outbound CID info. Calling me from POTS to snatch the CID will result in the same. ...unless there were a user friendly CNAM service, where info could be updated by the end-user and queried freely by voip providers. I would update my cellular numbers for sure and know at least a dozen people that would do the same. Everyone is going VoIP so why not? Talking about 'where's the money or angle'... here is one, vanity. Charge $1/yr to a user per DID, if I don't renew then delete it and re-query the original carrier. S. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Free CNAM
FreeCNAM.org is providing a free CNAM API for Open Source PBX users. This API queries a private CNAM database, and returns standard 15-Character CNAM results. Any entry not already in the database will be queued for investigation, and added to the database as soon as information is located. This system has access to several CNAM backends, and is not a party to any use-limiting or no-caching agreements. The API is: http://freecnam.org/dip?q=2024561414 You can monitor the stats, including the current queue size, at freecnam.org API Results will continually improve as the database grows, so please be patient with limited results at this early stage. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
BE WARY OF THIS ONE! If you click the link it comes up with a simple block Text Message US GOVERNMENT I doubt the US Government has any thing to do with it but... something is fishy here. Cary -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Michael R. Wally Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 6:48 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM FreeCNAM.org is providing a free CNAM API for Open Source PBX users. This API queries a private CNAM database, and returns standard 15-Character CNAM results. Any entry not already in the database will be queued for investigation, and added to the database as soon as information is located. This system has access to several CNAM backends, and is not a party to any use-limiting or no-caching agreements. The API is: http://freecnam.org/dip?q=2024561414 You can monitor the stats, including the current queue size, at freecnam.org API Results will continually improve as the database grows, so please be patient with limited results at this early stage. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
You are doing a CNAM lookup on that 202 number. Change the URL to a number you know, and it will do a CNAM lookup on it. You can take your tinfoil hat off now. -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Cary Fitch Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 8:05 AM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM BE WARY OF THIS ONE! If you click the link it comes up with a simple block Text Message US GOVERNMENT I doubt the US Government has any thing to do with it but... something is fishy here. Cary -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Michael R. Wally Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 6:48 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM FreeCNAM.org is providing a free CNAM API for Open Source PBX users. This API queries a private CNAM database, and returns standard 15-Character CNAM results. Any entry not already in the database will be queued for investigation, and added to the database as soon as information is located. This system has access to several CNAM backends, and is not a party to any use-limiting or no-caching agreements. The API is: http://freecnam.org/dip?q=2024561414 You can monitor the stats, including the current queue size, at freecnam.org API Results will continually improve as the database grows, so please be patient with limited results at this early stage. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
Excuse me! Doing that with http://freecnam.org/dip?q=9038874180 Comes up with WAL-MART which is correct, so I guess my mistrust was paranoid. (But just because you are paranoid doesn't mean that someone isn't trying to infiltrate your computer or steal your email address or what ever!) And the returned page is perfectly clean as far as HTML code is concerned! I DO suggest changing the example so as not to alarm suspicious minds. Cary -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Michael R. Wally Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 6:48 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM FreeCNAM.org is providing a free CNAM API for Open Source PBX users. This API queries a private CNAM database, and returns standard 15-Character CNAM results. Any entry not already in the database will be queued for investigation, and added to the database as soon as information is located. This system has access to several CNAM backends, and is not a party to any use-limiting or no-caching agreements. The API is: http://freecnam.org/dip?q=2024561414 You can monitor the stats, including the current queue size, at freecnam.org API Results will continually improve as the database grows, so please be patient with limited results at this early stage. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
Thanks I had just sent off a mea culpa, and I have a gold plated tin foil hat that I love and will continue to wear! :-) Cary -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Terry Brummell Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 7:12 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM You are doing a CNAM lookup on that 202 number. Change the URL to a number you know, and it will do a CNAM lookup on it. You can take your tinfoil hat off now. -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Cary Fitch Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 8:05 AM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM BE WARY OF THIS ONE! If you click the link it comes up with a simple block Text Message US GOVERNMENT I doubt the US Government has any thing to do with it but... something is fishy here. Cary -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Michael R. Wally Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 6:48 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM FreeCNAM.org is providing a free CNAM API for Open Source PBX users. This API queries a private CNAM database, and returns standard 15-Character CNAM results. Any entry not already in the database will be queued for investigation, and added to the database as soon as information is located. This system has access to several CNAM backends, and is not a party to any use-limiting or no-caching agreements. The API is: http://freecnam.org/dip?q=2024561414 You can monitor the stats, including the current queue size, at freecnam.org API Results will continually improve as the database grows, so please be patient with limited results at this early stage. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
This is the main public Whitehouse switchboard number. I figured I would use a prominent phone number for my sample dip. On 05/29/2011 08:05 AM, Cary Fitch wrote: BE WARY OF THIS ONE! If you click the link it comes up with a simple block Text Message US GOVERNMENT I doubt the US Government has any thing to do with it but... something is fishy here. Cary -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Michael R. Wally Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 6:48 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM FreeCNAM.org is providing a free CNAM API for Open Source PBX users. This API queries a private CNAM database, and returns standard 15-Character CNAM results. Any entry not already in the database will be queued for investigation, and added to the database as soon as information is located. This system has access to several CNAM backends, and is not a party to any use-limiting or no-caching agreements. The API is: http://freecnam.org/dip?q=2024561414 You can monitor the stats, including the current queue size, at freecnam.org API Results will continually improve as the database grows, so please be patient with limited results at this early stage. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
FreeCNAM.org is providing a free CNAM API for Open Source PBX users. This API queries a private CNAM database, and returns standard 15-Character CNAM results. Any entry not already in the database will be queued for investigation, and added to the database as soon as information is located. This system has access to several CNAM backends, and is not a party to any use-limiting or no-caching agreements. The API is: http://freecnam.org/dip?q=2024561414 I just tried this on about a dozen numbers I have in various parts of the US (cell, business, and a landline number I've had for decades) and NONE of them were listed in this database. Indeed I can't find one that IS. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
Try them all again. Remember that this is a static database that has to 'research' numbers it has not seen before. By now (a few minutes later), the database should have been updated. On 05/29/2011 08:56 AM, Richard Kenner wrote: FreeCNAM.org is providing a free CNAM API for Open Source PBX users. This API queries a private CNAM database, and returns standard 15-Character CNAM results. Any entry not already in the database will be queued for investigation, and added to the database as soon as information is located. This system has access to several CNAM backends, and is not a party to any use-limiting or no-caching agreements. The API is: http://freecnam.org/dip?q=2024561414 I just tried this on about a dozen numbers I have in various parts of the US (cell, business, and a landline number I've had for decades) and NONE of them were listed in this database. Indeed I can't find one that IS. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
Try them all again. Remember that this is a static database that has to 'research' numbers it has not seen before. Well, that doesn't make it very interesting: most calls I'd expect to get won't have been seen by it before. By now (a few minutes later), the database should have been updated. I tried it, but it returns the same kind of junk that some of the databases do. For example, on a Florida number, it just says FLORIDA instead of the proper name (some of the CNAM databases have the right name). -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
The system uses real Telco CNAM Dips. Any generic names you get are from the subscriber's carrier itself. We can only provide what we ourselves get. I tried it, but it returns the same kind of junk that some of the databases do. For example, on a Florida number, it just says FLORIDA instead of the proper name (some of the CNAM databases have the right name). -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
Works well - however, I see you included the API access. Are there more parameters that we can pass to get more information? Example, when we go to the web site, it gives you the City/State/Province/Postcode and carrier. G On 5/29/2011 07:47, Michael R. Wally wrote: FreeCNAM.org is providing a free CNAM API for Open Source PBX users. This API queries a private CNAM database, and returns standard 15-Character CNAM results. Any entry not already in the database will be queued for investigation, and added to the database as soon as information is located. This system has access to several CNAM backends, and is not a party to any use-limiting or no-caching agreements. The API is: http://freecnam.org/dip?q=2024561414 You can monitor the stats, including the current queue size, at freecnam.org API Results will continually improve as the database grows, so please be patient with limited results at this early stage. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
On 05/29/2011 09:37 AM, Michael R. Wally wrote: So how long till its an adaptive telemarketing blocker based on the query velocity of the numbers ? The system uses real Telco CNAM Dips. Any generic names you get are from the subscriber's carrier itself. We can only provide what we ourselves get. I tried it, but it returns the same kind of junk that some of the databases do. For example, on a Florida number, it just says FLORIDA instead of the proper name (some of the CNAM databases have the right name). -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
Try them all again. Remember that this is a static database that has to 'research' numbers it has not seen before. What happens when the CNAM is changed? How often does it go back and poll the database? -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
The system uses real Telco CNAM Dips. Any generic names you get are from the subscriber's carrier itself. We can only provide what we ourselves get. There's more than one CNAM database (aren't there seven?). I would have hoped that a service such as this would look at a bunch of them and choose the one that had the best result. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
GRIN! C. -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of jon pounder Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 8:48 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM On 05/29/2011 09:37 AM, Michael R. Wally wrote: So how long till its an adaptive telemarketing blocker based on the query velocity of the numbers ? The system uses real Telco CNAM Dips. Any generic names you get are from the subscriber's carrier itself. We can only provide what we ourselves get. I tried it, but it returns the same kind of junk that some of the databases do. For example, on a Florida number, it just says FLORIDA instead of the proper name (some of the CNAM databases have the right name). -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
The system uses real Telco CNAM Dips. Any generic names you get are from the subscriber's carrier itself. We can only provide what we ourselves get. There's more than one CNAM database (aren't there seven?). I would have hoped that a service such as this would look at a bunch of them and choose the one that had the best result. == I am the original skeptic in this thread. (and, horrors, have top posted besides!) But, What do you want for free? Oh, Asterisk for starters of course, but... don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Say Thanks, I hope it grows. So how about some one in the open source community come up with a few lines of code to add it to Asterisk? C. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Free CNAM
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 10:13 AM, Cary Fitch ca...@usawide.net wrote: The system uses real Telco CNAM Dips. Any generic names you get are from the subscriber's carrier itself. We can only provide what we ourselves get. There's more than one CNAM database (aren't there seven?). I would have hoped that a service such as this would look at a bunch of them and choose the one that had the best result. == I am the original skeptic in this thread. (and, horrors, have top posted besides!) But, What do you want for free? Oh, Asterisk for starters of course, but... don't look a gift horse in the mouth. Say Thanks, I hope it grows. So how about some one in the open source community come up with a few lines of code to add it to Asterisk? C. So the question is, what is the angle? I have seen large scale outbound call centers make a nice sideline profit from CNAM lookups, you just have to hook up with the company that pays you the best share and make millions of calls after you set your CID to one of their numbers. Some give a generic opt out option. I have seen businesses built around just the take on CNAM dips from the telco. These operations only ring the phone long enough for a POTS line to grab CID info. I have used it not as primary income but because the outfit getting the kickbacks paid pretty well and the Opt out list was real, so they provided a service and they also provided a side revenue stream. Two extremes for sure. Both are taking advantage of the system. One in basically a rip-off and the second, as far as I am concerned, a valid revenue stream that helps offset operating costs of a true outbound call center. Is there some kind of money play here. Apologies for being a skeptic but so far only FreeSwitch didn't have a hidden (some more than others) agenda. You know, dual licenses. People forced to sign over IP rights to get code committed to go into SwitchVox, not just Digium of course, that is just what popped to mind. Nothing leaps out at me, but I know for a fact that CID can equal big money. I am unsure of all the behind the scenes agreements on who gets paid and who pays. Can anyone elaborate? It seems like this would cost the developer in the beginning anyways. Again, skeptic, apologies if there is no harm, no foul. I just know that CID dips include money exchange. Just not sure how this would fit in. Thanks, Steve Totaro -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
