Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?
Hello, Am Donnerstag, den 15.02.2007, 10:55 +0800 schrieb Leo Ann Boon: 1. The smallest mini-ITX case I found that accepts a PCI card is the Travla C138: If you used a mini-ITX with a Digium TDM400P, do you know if it fits? I didn't find its width, and apparently, the C138 will not accept a PCI card bigger than 17,52cm. The C137 can fit 2 TDM400P with the right riser. If You are using the riser card, there will be shared interrupts. The two slots of the riser card are using the same IRQ AFAIK. Karsten ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?
Karsten Wemheuer wrote: Hello, Am Donnerstag, den 15.02.2007, 10:55 +0800 schrieb Leo Ann Boon: 1. The smallest mini-ITX case I found that accepts a PCI card is the Travla C138: If you used a mini-ITX with a Digium TDM400P, do you know if it fits? I didn't find its width, and apparently, the C138 will not accept a PCI card bigger than 17,52cm. The C137 can fit 2 TDM400P with the right riser. If You are using the riser card, there will be shared interrupts. The two slots of the riser card are using the same IRQ AFAIK. You can get risers that don't share interrupts, need to ask the vendor. Yes, I did remember the first batch we got had shared interrupts. Leo ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, Vincent Delporte wrote: At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Gordon Henderson wrote: Check the processor spec. carefully. [...] Also make sure you compile asterisk for an i586 OK, I'll make sure it has enough cache and I'll recompile the code myself. I'm thinking of getting an ML 8000 http://via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp?motherboard_id=301 . At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Manny A. Wise wrote: I did, and I was NOT happy with the results... Mini-itx have a serious problems with IRQ sharing... I am happily using a embeded system now, but the FXO and FXS have to be external. Those boards only come with one PCI slot. Do you mean it could share an IRQ with some embedded component like the video card? On the CN1000 boards I'm using, the PCI slot seems tobe locked to IRQ10. The on-board USB hardware also seems to be wired to IRQ 10 )-: Using the BIOS to reserve IRQ 10 caused the on-board USB hardware to move to IRQ5 on the old VIA 533MHz boards I use for RD, but not on the new CN1000 boards. You'll need to experiment with this on the EX board... So I disable the on-board USB device, and have a custom compiled kernel that doesn't include USB drivers. However, on a test board, I did leave USB enabled with a kernel that supproted USB just to test - an - well - it just works - however I only planned to use USB to perform an upgrade, so the times it would be in-use would be so minimal as to (hopefully) not have an issue. On an older 533MHz board: $ cat /proc/interrupts CPU0 0: 48124962 XT-PIC timer 2: 0 XT-PIC cascade 5: 0 XT-PIC uhci_hcd:usb1, uhci_hcd:usb2 7: 1 XT-PIC acpi 8: 4 XT-PIC rtc 11: 75120 XT-PIC eth0 12: 48084364 XT-PIC wctdm 14: 2763 XT-PIC ide0 15: 5373 XT-PIC ide1 NMI: 0 LOC: 0 ERR: 0 MIS: 0 $ /sbin/zttest Opened pseudo zap interface, measuring accuracy... ... --- Results after 42 passes --- Best: 100.00 -- Worst: 99.987793 -- Average: 99.995350 BTW, in this age of big USB drive, I don't really nee a DVD/CDRW combo. Does someone know if the Via motherboards (at least the ML series) supports booting off a USB drive, so I can use this to start Linux and fetch install files from an FTP server? I've not tried it (I boot them off a flash IDE device I create on a host system), but can't you just temporarily plug in a CD drive to do the install (onto a local IDE/SATA drive) then unplug it put the lid back on? Thats how I build some of my servers... (Although the CD drive is an IDE drive these days for speed...) Gordon ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?
At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Michelle Dupuis Henderson wrote: We use a lot of mini-itx pc's, including the pCI slot. I don't think any of the systems have shared an irq with the PCI slot Thanks for the tip. In that case, I have a couple of questions for you :-) 1. The smallest mini-ITX case I found that accepts a PCI card is the Travla C138: If you used a mini-ITX with a Digium TDM400P, do you know if it fits? I didn't find its width, and apparently, the C138 will not accept a PCI card bigger than 17,52cm. 2. Can the Via motherboards boot from a USB drive, so I can install Linux from this and fetch the install files from an FTP server? Thanks. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?
I don't know that case - but I would suspect so. Yes on booting from a USB drive/memory stick - we setup the same way. MD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vincent Delporte Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 9:12 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card? At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Michelle Dupuis Henderson wrote: We use a lot of mini-itx pc's, including the pCI slot. I don't think any of the systems have shared an irq with the PCI slot Thanks for the tip. In that case, I have a couple of questions for you :-) 1. The smallest mini-ITX case I found that accepts a PCI card is the Travla C138: If you used a mini-ITX with a Digium TDM400P, do you know if it fits? I didn't find its width, and apparently, the C138 will not accept a PCI card bigger than 17,52cm. 2. Can the Via motherboards boot from a USB drive, so I can install Linux from this and fetch the install files from an FTP server? Thanks. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?
At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Gordon Henderson wrote: On the CN1000 boards I'm using, the PCI slot seems tobe locked to IRQ10. The on-board USB hardware also seems to be wired to IRQ 10 :-) Using the BIOS to reserve IRQ 10 caused the on-board USB hardware to move to IRQ5 on the old VIA 533MHz boards I use for RD, but not on the new CN1000 boards. You'll need to experiment with this on the EX board... Thanks a lot for the feedback. I'll probably get an ML8000, so hopefully the PCI board can have its own IRQ. I've not tried it (I boot them off a flash IDE device I create on a host system), but can't you just temporarily plug in a CD drive to do the install (onto a local IDE/SATA drive) then unplug it put the lid back on? Right, I hadn't thought of this. Guess that solves the issue then. Looks like the only site that sells the Travla 138 is www.caseoutlet.com . Thanks. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?
1. The smallest mini-ITX case I found that accepts a PCI card is the Travla C138: If you used a mini-ITX with a Digium TDM400P, do you know if it fits? I didn't find its width, and apparently, the C138 will not accept a PCI card bigger than 17,52cm. The C137 can fit 2 TDM400P with the right riser. Leo ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?
At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Michelle Dupuis Henderson wrote: Yes on booting from a USB drive/memory stick - we setup the same way. Thanks for the tip. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?
Vincent Delporte a écrit : At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Michelle Dupuis Henderson wrote: We use a lot of mini-itx pc's, including the pCI slot. I don't think any of the systems have shared an irq with the PCI slot Thanks for the tip. In that case, I have a couple of questions for you :-) 1. The smallest mini-ITX case I found that accepts a PCI card is the Travla C138: If you used a mini-ITX with a Digium TDM400P, do you know if it fits? I didn't find its width, and apparently, the C138 will not accept a PCI card bigger than 17,52cm. I'm using these cases for my Mini-TX projects: http://www.emko.cz/emko_en/produkty/skrine/miniitx/em-141.html A TDM400P fits nicely. 2. Can the Via motherboards boot from a USB drive, so I can install Linux from this and fetch the install files from an FTP server? Yes, they also boot from USB CDROM, and directly from LAN (PXE). Regards, -- Jean-Denis Girard SysNux Systèmes Linux en Polynésie française http://www.sysnux.pf/ Tél: +689 483 527 / GSM: +689 797 527 ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?
At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Gordon Henderson wrote: Check the processor spec. carefully. [...] Also make sure you compile asterisk for an i586 OK, I'll make sure it has enough cache and I'll recompile the code myself. I'm thinking of getting an ML 8000 http://via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp?motherboard_id=301 . At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Manny A. Wise wrote: I did, and I was NOT happy with the results... Mini-itx have a serious problems with IRQ sharing... I am happily using a embeded system now, but the FXO and FXS have to be external. Those boards only come with one PCI slot. Do you mean it could share an IRQ with some embedded component like the video card? BTW, in this age of big USB drive, I don't really nee a DVD/CDRW combo. Does someone know if the Via motherboards (at least the ML series) supports booting off a USB drive, so I can use this to start Linux and fetch install files from an FTP server? Thank you. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?
We use a lot of mini-itx pc's, including the pCI slot. I don't think any of the systems have shared an irq with the PCI slot MD -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vincent Delporte Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 5:29 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card? At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Gordon Henderson wrote: Check the processor spec. carefully. [...] Also make sure you compile asterisk for an i586 OK, I'll make sure it has enough cache and I'll recompile the code myself. I'm thinking of getting an ML 8000 http://via.com.tw/en/products/mainboards/motherboards.jsp?motherboard_id=301 . At 10:09 11/02/2007 -0500, Manny A. Wise wrote: I did, and I was NOT happy with the results... Mini-itx have a serious problems with IRQ sharing... I am happily using a embeded system now, but the FXO and FXS have to be external. Those boards only come with one PCI slot. Do you mean it could share an IRQ with some embedded component like the video card? BTW, in this age of big USB drive, I don't really nee a DVD/CDRW combo. Does someone know if the Via motherboards (at least the ML series) supports booting off a USB drive, so I can use this to start Linux and fetch install files from an FTP server? Thank you. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?
On Sun, 11 Feb 2007, Vincent Delporte wrote: Hello Before I order a Travla C156 case (http://206.14.132.88/products/Travla/c156/C156.html), a Via mini-ITX motherboard (either the fanless ME6000 http://idotpc.com/TheStore/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=50idproduct=4 or the fan-equipped M1 http://idotpc.com/TheStore/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=50idproduct=163 ) , and a PCI FXO card from Digium or OpenVox... has someone already built that kind of box, and could tell me if it's powerful enough to power a small PBX? Check the processor spec. carefully. There are a few variants of the VIA processor and some have 64KB of cache and other 128KB. I've deployed several fanless CN1000 systems which have 128KB of cache, but my RD system has an older (533MHz) processor with 64KB of cache. (All with TDM400 cards) The thing that will kill these boards is transcoding. Also make sure you compile asterisk for an i586 - the Via processors while looking like i686 are lacking some instructions that causes asterisk to code-dump at boot time. I have some VIA EK processor systems, 1GHz, 64KB cache with a fan which I use as routers (2 on-board ethernet ports) and I've never been able to get the fan to run at any time other than boot time, so if the boards you're looking at have fans, I'd guess they were connected the same way and only came on when they got hot, but I'd still go fanless ( diskless) if possible. Gordon ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?
Hello Before I order a Travla C156 case (http://206.14.132.88/products/Travla/c156/C156.html), a Via mini-ITX motherboard (either the fanless ME6000 http://idotpc.com/TheStore/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=50idproduct=4 or the fan-equipped M1 http://idotpc.com/TheStore/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=50idproduct=163 ) , and a PCI FXO card from Digium or OpenVox... has someone already built that kind of box, and could tell me if it's powerful enough to power a small PBX? Thanks. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Mini-ITX board + FXO PCI card?
I have built several mini-itx via systems, and they work fine with Asterisk. We use one with a dual port E1 card in our office as our phone system. PaulH On Sun, 2007-02-11 at 00:47 +0100, Vincent Delporte wrote: Hello Before I order a Travla C156 case (http://206.14.132.88/products/Travla/c156/C156.html), a Via mini-ITX motherboard (either the fanless ME6000 http://idotpc.com/TheStore/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=50idproduct=4 or the fan-equipped M1 http://idotpc.com/TheStore/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=50idproduct=163 ) , and a PCI FXO card from Digium or OpenVox... has someone already built that kind of box, and could tell me if it's powerful enough to power a small PBX? Thanks. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
