[asterisk-users] OT ? Number portability, land line to Cell

2007-05-14 Thread Joe acquisto
Having had various issues with local vendor (begins with V). am looking to 
move to all wireless.  Anyone know if current vendor can refuse to port the 
current land line numbers to a wireless provider?

From what I've read, the Fed's seem to say no, they cannot refuse, or impede 
this.

joe a.

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT ? Number portability, land line to Cell

2007-05-14 Thread Alex Balashov

On Mon, 14 May 2007, Joe acquisto said something to this effect:

Having had various issues with local vendor (begins with V). am looking 
to move to all wireless.  Anyone know if current vendor can refuse to 
port the current land line numbers to a wireless provider?


  LNP does provide for this, at least in principle.

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT ? Number portability, land line to Cell

2007-05-14 Thread Jon Pounder

Quoting Joe acquisto [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Having had various issues with local vendor (begins with V). am   
looking to move to all wireless.  Anyone know if current vendor can   
refuse to port the current land line numbers to a wireless provider?


From what I've read, the Fed's seem to say no, they cannot   
refuse, or impede this.


In Canada I've had limited success - personal lines seem easier to get  
done than business lines for some reason, and the whole issue of the  
overlapped area codes in the toronto area complicate things further  
(really or just portrayed that way as an excuse I am not really sure.)






joe a.

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT ? Number portability, land line to Cell

2007-05-14 Thread Robert A. Rawlinson
I was going to port a number here in Ohio and Verizon said it would cost 
$90 to do so as they can charge what it cost them.

Bob R
Joe acquisto wrote:

Having had various issues with local vendor (begins with V). am looking to 
move to all wireless.  Anyone know if current vendor can refuse to port the current land 
line numbers to a wireless provider?

From what I've read, the Fed's seem to say no, they cannot refuse, or impede 
this.

joe a.

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT ? Number portability, land line to Cell

2007-05-14 Thread SIP

Joe acquisto wrote:

Having had various issues with local vendor (begins with V). am looking to 
move to all wireless.  Anyone know if current vendor can refuse to port the current land 
line numbers to a wireless provider?

From what I've read, the Fed's seem to say no, they cannot refuse, or impede 
this.

joe a.

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It depends on whether or not your local vendor actually owns the number 
itself or acquires it from another vendor. If they own the number, I 
don't think they're legally allowed to refuse to port it. If they lease 
the number from another provider, they're not actually obligated to 
assist you in porting, although they might, if you ask nicely, tell you 
with whom you need to deal to port the number.

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Re: [asterisk-users] OT ? Number portability, land line to Cell

2007-05-14 Thread Joe Greco
 Having had various issues with local vendor (begins with V). am looking to 
 move to all wireless.  Anyone know if current vendor can refuse to port the 
 current land line numbers to a wireless provider?
 
 From what I've read, the Fed's seem to say no, they cannot refuse, or 
 impede this.

Your local Vendor can certainly refuse to port the number, regardless of
whether or not they're actually supposed to allow portability.  They're 
the phone company, they don't have to care.

Excuses can range fom we don't support that to the equipment's too old
to my dog ate my homework.

They know that 99.9% of all consumers are stupid and/or will not argue the
point.  Most people do not choose to engage big businesses over things 
like this.  That's unfortunate, of course, because it enables companies to
get away with blowoffs like this successfully and makes it harder for the
rest of us to fight.

You might find it interesting and/or useful to see if you can get them to
port it to their own wireless division, assuming that they have one.

If you decide to press the point, which you're encouraged to do, then the
following resource ought to be helpful.

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/numbport.html

... JG
-- 
Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net
We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I
won't contact you again. - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN)
With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.
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RE: [asterisk-users] OT ? Number portability, land line to Cell

2007-05-14 Thread Don Kelly
I think Joe's analysis is unreasonably negative regarding the landline
companies' willingness to port. The link he provides,
http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/numbport.html, reflects my experience.

A couple cautions, however:

Landline companies may take two to three weeks to actually complete the port
(as the FCC says, DO NOT cancel your current service until the new service
is actually working).

Your new carrier will request an LOA (Letter of Authorization) to complete
the port. Make sure that the LOA is limited to making changes only to the
service that you want them to be changing and the account title (for your
existing service), service address, account number, etc., are exactly
correct on the LOA. Otherwise you'll hear from your new carrier in a couple
weeks that the old carrier refuses to complete the port because the existing
customer is ABC Enterprises and the new customer is A. B. Cooper
Enterprises. (This is why they may request a copy of your existing phone
bill--to make sure everything is letter-perfect.)

  --Don

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 Having had various issues with local vendor (begins with V). am looking
to move to all wireless.  Anyone know if current vendor can refuse to port
the current land line numbers to a wireless provider?
 
 From what I've read, the Fed's seem to say no, they cannot refuse, or
impede this.

Your local Vendor can certainly refuse to port the number, regardless of
whether or not they're actually supposed to allow portability.  They're 
the phone company, they don't have to care.

Excuses can range fom we don't support that to the equipment's too old
to my dog ate my homework.

They know that 99.9% of all consumers are stupid and/or will not argue the
point.  Most people do not choose to engage big businesses over things 
like this.  That's unfortunate, of course, because it enables companies to
get away with blowoffs like this successfully and makes it harder for the
rest of us to fight.

You might find it interesting and/or useful to see if you can get them to
port it to their own wireless division, assuming that they have one.

If you decide to press the point, which you're encouraged to do, then the
following resource ought to be helpful.

http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/consumerfacts/numbport.html

... JG
-- 
Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net
We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then
I
won't contact you again. - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail
spam(CNN)
With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many
apples.
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