Re: [asterisk-users] SDP Issue

2012-01-24 Thread Sammy Govind
:D pretty much true !

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Alex Balashov
abalas...@evaristesys.comwrote:

 Is --[ UxBoD ]-- a first-person shooter gang--er, clan--name?  Like, one
 of those who rocket-jumps onto the platform and camps with the grenade
 launcher, trying to stop the reds from capturing the blue flag?  I hate how
 the health and the ammo takes so long to respawn.  Is there any way to fix
 that in deathmatch?

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Re: [asterisk-users] SDP Issue

2012-01-24 Thread --[ UxBoD ]--
LOL :) that really made me chuckle this morning; and very apt for the fact I 
did not post any fundamental details about the issue.  All points duly noted!
-- 
Thanks, Phil

- Original Message - 

 Is --[ UxBoD ]-- a first-person shooter gang--er, clan--name? Like,
 one of those who rocket-jumps onto the platform and camps with the
 grenade launcher, trying to stop the reds from capturing the blue
 flag? I hate how the health and the ammo takes so long to respawn.
 Is there any way to fix that in deathmatch?

 --
 This message was painstakingly thumbed out on my mobile, so apologies
 for brevity, errors, and general sloppiness.

 Alex Balashov - Principal
 Evariste Systems LLC
 260 Peachtree Street NW
 Suite 2200
 Atlanta, GA 30303
 Tel: +1-678-954-0670
 Fax: +1-404-961-1892
 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/

 On Jan 24, 2012, at 2:10 AM, --[ UxBoD ]--  ux...@splatnix.net 
 wrote:

  --[ UxBoD ]--
 

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Re: [asterisk-users] SDP Issue

2012-01-24 Thread Alex Balashov
I wasn't so much poking fun at the substance of your post as the fact that 
you're the only person on this mailing list that posts with a pseudonym, and at 
that, one evocative of online gaming or forum environments.  It just doesn't 
fit with the culture or the relatively serious, substantive and adult-oriented 
tenor of this type of list.  Do you not notice that?  

At the risk of being rude, --[ UxBoD ]-- is something that belongs in WoW or 
a phpBB board full of spotty adolescents. 

If your real name is Phil, why not post as such?  Okay, so maybe you don't want 
to give out your surname for one reason or another--fair enough.  So, post as 
Phil, or Phil D., if your full name were Phil Deleterious.  

There's no rule saying you have to.  However, the survival of most human social 
institutions, including those devoted to the exchange of knowledge, is upheld 
in part by adherence to some conventions of self-presentation and deportment.  
These conventions help delineate the identity and character of the venue to 
outsiders, and assist in self-knowledge and affirmation of that character 
internally. 

Everyone else here posts with their full name because it communicates: I am a 
real, adult person solving real-world technical problems related to Asterisk. 
It is, at least in part, an affirmation of the fact that real 
personalities--real humans, real identities--underlie participation in Internet 
forums, especially specialised ones.  It is also a nod to the benificent 
academic origins of the Internet.  There are reasons for these conventions.  
They encapsulate our creation mythos, and they tell us what kind of people we 
are, as a community.  

Quite frankly, your From: display name spits on the pedigree, on the storied 
heritage of how this open-source community came to be.  It is not deferential 
to the accrued wisdom of Internet-focused technical specialists in areas such 
as Asterisk or IP telephony, and it does not hallow the ground on which we 
tread.  It says that the ROFLcopter has landed!!!111 and lol p0wned teh n00bs.  

Except, you're being the n00b.  Come on, Phil.  Self-awareness is important.  I 
know I am being a self-important ass pontificating on this to you.  Are you 
okay with an ASCII art pseudonym that says, I'm a 14 year old playing WoW on a 
delapidated, slightly yellowed Windows tower draped in dirty underwear?  If 
not for you, why not for us?  Please post with a real name. 

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Suite 2200
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Tel: +1-678-954-0670
Fax: +1-404-961-1892
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On Jan 24, 2012, at 6:02 AM, --[ UxBoD ]-- ux...@splatnix.net wrote:

 LOL :) that really made me chuckle this morning; and very apt for the fact I 
 did not post any fundamental details about the issue.  All points duly noted!
 -- 
 Thanks, Phil
 
 - Original Message - 
 
 Is --[ UxBoD ]-- a first-person shooter gang--er, clan--name? Like,
 one of those who rocket-jumps onto the platform and camps with the
 grenade launcher, trying to stop the reds from capturing the blue
 flag? I hate how the health and the ammo takes so long to respawn.
 Is there any way to fix that in deathmatch?
 
 --
 This message was painstakingly thumbed out on my mobile, so apologies
 for brevity, errors, and general sloppiness.
 
 Alex Balashov - Principal
 Evariste Systems LLC
 260 Peachtree Street NW
 Suite 2200
 Atlanta, GA 30303
 Tel: +1-678-954-0670
 Fax: +1-404-961-1892
 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/
 
 On Jan 24, 2012, at 2:10 AM, --[ UxBoD ]--  ux...@splatnix.net 
 wrote:
 
 --[ UxBoD ]--
 

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Re: [asterisk-users] SDP Issue

2012-01-24 Thread Phil Daws
Alex, I would hate for you to have to pen such a long email again using your 
mobile and do appreciate the comments hence the change to appear more human.
-- 
Thanks, Phil

- Original Message -
 I wasn't so much poking fun at the substance of your post as the fact
 that you're the only person on this mailing list that posts with a
 pseudonym, and at that, one evocative of online gaming or forum
 environments.  It just doesn't fit with the culture or the
 relatively serious, substantive and adult-oriented tenor of this
 type of list.  Do you not notice that?
 
 At the risk of being rude, --[ UxBoD ]-- is something that belongs
 in WoW or a phpBB board full of spotty adolescents.
 
 If your real name is Phil, why not post as such?  Okay, so maybe you
 don't want to give out your surname for one reason or another--fair
 enough.  So, post as Phil, or Phil D., if your full name were
 Phil Deleterious.
 
 There's no rule saying you have to.  However, the survival of most
 human social institutions, including those devoted to the exchange
 of knowledge, is upheld in part by adherence to some conventions of
 self-presentation and deportment.  These conventions help delineate
 the identity and character of the venue to outsiders, and assist in
 self-knowledge and affirmation of that character internally.
 
 Everyone else here posts with their full name because it
 communicates: I am a real, adult person solving real-world
 technical problems related to Asterisk. It is, at least in part, an
 affirmation of the fact that real personalities--real humans, real
 identities--underlie participation in Internet forums, especially
 specialised ones.  It is also a nod to the benificent academic
 origins of the Internet.  There are reasons for these conventions.
  They encapsulate our creation mythos, and they tell us what kind of
 people we are, as a community.
 
 Quite frankly, your From: display name spits on the pedigree, on the
 storied heritage of how this open-source community came to be.  It
 is not deferential to the accrued wisdom of Internet-focused
 technical specialists in areas such as Asterisk or IP telephony, and
 it does not hallow the ground on which we tread.  It says that the
 ROFLcopter has landed!!!111 and lol p0wned teh n00bs.
 
 Except, you're being the n00b.  Come on, Phil.  Self-awareness is
 important.  I know I am being a self-important ass pontificating on
 this to you.  Are you okay with an ASCII art pseudonym that says,
 I'm a 14 year old playing WoW on a delapidated, slightly yellowed
 Windows tower draped in dirty underwear?  If not for you, why not
 for us?  Please post with a real name.
 
 --
 This message was painstakingly thumbed out on my mobile, so apologies
 for brevity, errors, and general sloppiness.
 
 Alex Balashov - Principal
 Evariste Systems LLC
 260 Peachtree Street NW
 Suite 2200
 Atlanta, GA 30303
 Tel: +1-678-954-0670
 Fax: +1-404-961-1892
 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/
 
 On Jan 24, 2012, at 6:02 AM, --[ UxBoD ]-- ux...@splatnix.net
 wrote:
 
  LOL :) that really made me chuckle this morning; and very apt for
  the fact I did not post any fundamental details about the issue.
   All points duly noted!
  --
  Thanks, Phil
  
  - Original Message -
  
  Is --[ UxBoD ]-- a first-person shooter gang--er, clan--name?
  Like,
  one of those who rocket-jumps onto the platform and camps with the
  grenade launcher, trying to stop the reds from capturing the blue
  flag? I hate how the health and the ammo takes so long to respawn.
  Is there any way to fix that in deathmatch?
  
  --
  This message was painstakingly thumbed out on my mobile, so
  apologies
  for brevity, errors, and general sloppiness.
  
  Alex Balashov - Principal
  Evariste Systems LLC
  260 Peachtree Street NW
  Suite 2200
  Atlanta, GA 30303
  Tel: +1-678-954-0670
  Fax: +1-404-961-1892
  Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/
  
  On Jan 24, 2012, at 2:10 AM, --[ UxBoD ]--  ux...@splatnix.net
  
  wrote:
  
  --[ UxBoD ]--
  
 

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Re: [asterisk-users] SDP Issue

2012-01-24 Thread John Novack
Phil has been using his pseudonym for years, and Alex and his 
painful/painstaking posting is the only one I have seen even raising the 
issue.


Says even more about Alex than Phil


Peg Leg O'Brien


Alex Balashov wrote:

I wasn't so much poking fun at the substance of your post as the fact that 
you're the only person on this mailing list that posts with a pseudonym, and at 
that, one evocative of online gaming or forum environments.  It just doesn't 
fit with the culture or the relatively serious, substantive and adult-oriented 
tenor of this type of list.  Do you not notice that?

At the risk of being rude, --[ UxBoD ]-- is something that belongs in WoW or 
a phpBB board full of spotty adolescents.

If your real name is Phil, why not post as such?  Okay, so maybe you don't want to give out your 
surname for one reason or another--fair enough.  So, post as Phil, or Phil 
D., if your full name were Phil Deleterious.

There's no rule saying you have to.  However, the survival of most human social 
institutions, including those devoted to the exchange of knowledge, is upheld 
in part by adherence to some conventions of self-presentation and deportment.  
These conventions help delineate the identity and character of the venue to 
outsiders, and assist in self-knowledge and affirmation of that character 
internally.

Everyone else here posts with their full name because it communicates: I am a real, 
adult person solving real-world technical problems related to Asterisk. It is, at 
least in part, an affirmation of the fact that real personalities--real humans, real 
identities--underlie participation in Internet forums, especially specialised ones.  It 
is also a nod to the benificent academic origins of the Internet.  There are reasons for 
these conventions.  They encapsulate our creation mythos, and they tell us what kind of 
people we are, as a community.

Quite frankly, your From: display name spits on the pedigree, on the storied 
heritage of how this open-source community came to be.  It is not deferential 
to the accrued wisdom of Internet-focused technical specialists in areas such 
as Asterisk or IP telephony, and it does not hallow the ground on which we 
tread.  It says that the ROFLcopter has landed!!!111 and lol p0wned teh n00bs.

Except, you're being the n00b.  Come on, Phil.  Self-awareness is important.  I know I am 
being a self-important ass pontificating on this to you.  Are you okay with an ASCII art 
pseudonym that says, I'm a 14 year old playing WoW on a delapidated, slightly 
yellowed Windows tower draped in dirty underwear?  If not for you, why not for us?  
Please post with a real name.

--
This message was painstakingly thumbed out on my mobile, so apologies for 
brevity, errors, and general sloppiness.

Alex Balashov - Principal
Evariste Systems LLC
260 Peachtree Street NW
Suite 2200
Atlanta, GA 30303
Tel: +1-678-954-0670
Fax: +1-404-961-1892
Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/

On Jan 24, 2012, at 6:02 AM, --[ UxBoD ]--ux...@splatnix.net  wrote:

   

LOL :) that really made me chuckle this morning; and very apt for the fact I 
did not post any fundamental details about the issue.  All points duly noted!
--
Thanks, Phil

- Original Message -

 

Is --[ UxBoD ]-- a first-person shooter gang--er, clan--name? Like,
one of those who rocket-jumps onto the platform and camps with the
grenade launcher, trying to stop the reds from capturing the blue
flag? I hate how the health and the ammo takes so long to respawn.
Is there any way to fix that in deathmatch?
   
 

--
This message was painstakingly thumbed out on my mobile, so apologies
for brevity, errors, and general sloppiness.
   
 

Alex Balashov - Principal
Evariste Systems LLC
260 Peachtree Street NW
Suite 2200
Atlanta, GA 30303
Tel: +1-678-954-0670
Fax: +1-404-961-1892
Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/
   
 

On Jan 24, 2012, at 2:10 AM, --[ UxBoD ]--  ux...@splatnix.net
wrote:
   
 

--[ UxBoD ]--
 
   

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Re: [asterisk-users] SDP Issue

2012-01-24 Thread Alex Balashov

On 01/24/2012 07:34 AM, John Novack wrote:


Phil has been using his pseudonym for years, and Alex and his
painful/painstaking posting is the only one I have seen even raising
the issue.

Says even more about Alex than Phil


Guilty as charged.  :-)

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Re: [asterisk-users] SDP Issue

2012-01-24 Thread Phil Daws
Doubt really care TBH and the whole reason behind it was a nickname, Unix Bod, 
given to me by a very knowledgeable friend.  I am here to learn from the 
community and give back where I can.
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- Original Message -
 On 01/24/2012 07:34 AM, John Novack wrote:
 
  Phil has been using his pseudonym for years, and Alex and his
  painful/painstaking posting is the only one I have seen even
  raising
  the issue.
 
  Says even more about Alex than Phil
 
 Guilty as charged.  :-)
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] SDP Issue

2012-01-24 Thread Alex Balashov
Phil, I applaud both the diplomacy of your responses and your 
willingness to consider the critique.  It was very gentlemanly of you.


For the interlopers cashing in cheap shots, my enthusiasm is more 
restrained.


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[asterisk-users] SDP Issue

2012-01-23 Thread --[ UxBoD ]--
Hi, 

I am attempting to make a SIP call between an Asterisk 10 server and an 
Asterisk 1.8 system but when it goes to VM and the first prompt plays the line 
drops and I see on the V10 console: 

[Jan 23 15:47:04] WARNING[7859]: chan_sip.c:8944 process_sdp: Insufficient 
information for SDP (m= not found) 

Any ideas please as the codecs at each end look okay ? 

-- 
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Re: [asterisk-users] SDP Issue

2012-01-23 Thread Kevin P. Fleming

On 01/23/2012 09:48 AM, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote:

Hi,

I am attempting to make a SIP call between an Asterisk 10 server and an
Asterisk 1.8 system but when it goes to VM and the first prompt plays
the line drops and I see on the V10 console:

[Jan 23 15:47:04] WARNING[7859]: chan_sip.c:8944 process_sdp:
Insufficient information for SDP (m= not found)

Any ideas please as the codecs at each end look okay ?


There is either an error in the SDP generated by one end, or an error in 
the parser at the end receiving it. Posting the actual messages involved 
would help tremendously, because otherwise 'ideas' would be just guesses.


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Re: [asterisk-users] SDP Issue

2012-01-23 Thread --[ UxBoD ]--
Hi Kevin,

will grab a sip trace today and post it up.
-- 
Thanks, Phil

- Original Message -
 On 01/23/2012 09:48 AM, --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I am attempting to make a SIP call between an Asterisk 10 server
  and an
  Asterisk 1.8 system but when it goes to VM and the first prompt
  plays
  the line drops and I see on the V10 console:
 
  [Jan 23 15:47:04] WARNING[7859]: chan_sip.c:8944 process_sdp:
  Insufficient information for SDP (m= not found)
 
  Any ideas please as the codecs at each end look okay ?
 
 There is either an error in the SDP generated by one end, or an error
 in
 the parser at the end receiving it. Posting the actual messages
 involved
 would help tremendously, because otherwise 'ideas' would be just
 guesses.
 
 --
 Kevin P. Fleming
 Digium, Inc. | Director of Software Technologies
 Jabber: kflem...@digium.com | SIP: kpflem...@digium.com | Skype:
 kpfleming
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Re: [asterisk-users] SDP Issue

2012-01-23 Thread Alex Balashov
Is --[ UxBoD ]-- a first-person shooter gang--er, clan--name?  Like, one of 
those who rocket-jumps onto the platform and camps with the grenade launcher, 
trying to stop the reds from capturing the blue flag?  I hate how the health 
and the ammo takes so long to respawn.  Is there any way to fix that in 
deathmatch?

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brevity, errors, and general sloppiness.

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Suite 2200
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Tel: +1-678-954-0670
Fax: +1-404-961-1892
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On Jan 24, 2012, at 2:10 AM, --[ UxBoD ]-- ux...@splatnix.net wrote:

 --[ UxBoD ]--
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