RE: [asterisk-users] WIFI SIP- The Best phone
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mitcheloc Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 8:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] WIFI SIP- The Best phone Those wifi phones are neat but I'd rather not carry around two devices, does anyone know of any good dual-mode GSM/SIP phones? I'm using a T-Mobile MDA right now and it is way too slow. Apparently the Nokia e61 has a built in SIP client, but there might be a new model around the corner (worth the wait?) Suggestions? I've had a play with a Nokia E70 - the 'bar' version of the E61 and gave up! Menu navigation is dire - I went through hoops trying to get SIP working - I know from others it can be done, but I bailed out when I realised that to put these phones in the hands of inexperienced users would be a recipe for a lot of frustration and support calls. I'd expect the 'PDA style' E61 might be easier to use. I have an HTC Hermes phone (Vodafone V1605 in the UK) running Windows Mobile 5. I have fired up the beta version of SJPhone on it and it was just about useable, but not 'production ready'. I hope that there will be some decent WM5 software in the near future but am wondering what sort of battery life can be expected. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: RE: [asterisk-users] WIFI SIP- The Best phone
On 09/01/07, Nigel Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had a play with a Nokia E70 - the 'bar' version of the E61 and gave up! Menu navigation is dire - I went through hoops trying to get SIP working - I know from others it can be done, but I bailed out when I realised that to put these phones in the hands of inexperienced users would be a recipe for a lot of frustration and support calls. Ironically I was going to recommend the E70. It is true that the menus are complex but once configured it does do what it says on the tin - provide a very effective merging of SIP over WIFI and GSM all in one unit. Regards, Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: RE: [asterisk-users] WIFI SIP- The Best phone
I've had the E70 for about a month. The first few days were not fun. But now that I've learned the gotchas and the workarounds, it is GREAT. You -can- configure it, and asterisk, to work perfectly together, every time. With automatic failover to conventional GSM phone behaviour if not in 802.11 land. I would be happy to give these to blinking 12:00 users, if -I- preconfigured them. This thing is great. Far exceeds expectation. Battery life with 802.11 is great, not discernibly worse than without it. _ On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Stephen Davies wrote: On 09/01/07, Nigel Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had a play with a Nokia E70 - the 'bar' version of the E61 and gave up! Menu navigation is dire - I went through hoops trying to get SIP working - I know from others it can be done, but I bailed out when I realised that to put these phones in the hands of inexperienced users would be a recipe for a lot of frustration and support calls. Ironically I was going to recommend the E70. It is true that the menus are complex but once configured it does do what it says on the tin - provide a very effective merging of SIP over WIFI and GSM all in one unit. Regards, Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: RE: [asterisk-users] WIFI SIP- The Best phone
Wait for the iPhone...seriously. On 1/9/07, Jerry Glomph Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had the E70 for about a month. The first few days were not fun. But now that I've learned the gotchas and the workarounds, it is GREAT. You -can- configure it, and asterisk, to work perfectly together, every time. With automatic failover to conventional GSM phone behaviour if not in 802.11 land. I would be happy to give these to blinking 12:00 users, if -I- preconfigured them. This thing is great. Far exceeds expectation. Battery life with 802.11 is great, not discernibly worse than without it. _ On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, Stephen Davies wrote: On 09/01/07, Nigel Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've had a play with a Nokia E70 - the 'bar' version of the E61 and gave up! Menu navigation is dire - I went through hoops trying to get SIP working - I know from others it can be done, but I bailed out when I realised that to put these phones in the hands of inexperienced users would be a recipe for a lot of frustration and support calls. Ironically I was going to recommend the E70. It is true that the menus are complex but once configured it does do what it says on the tin - provide a very effective merging of SIP over WIFI and GSM all in one unit. Regards, Steve ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Mitchel Constantin Snap - A desktop user interface for Asterisk www.snapanumber.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: RE: [asterisk-users] WIFI SIP- The Best phone
On Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 02:40:07PM -0800, mitcheloc wrote: Wait for the iPhone...seriously. I assume you mean Apple iPhone not Linksys iPhone ? It looks lovely, shame it's not available in UK until Q4. (also not FCC approved yet, but I assume that was deliberate as most phone leaks tend to come from filed FCC submissions). Steve p.s. also look at Truphone, they do WiFi/GSM/etc switching in client. -- NetTek Ltd UK mob +44-(0)7775 755503 UK +44-(0)20 79932612 / US +1-(310)8577715 / Fax +44-(0)20 7483 2455 Skype/GoogleTalk/AIM/Gizmo/Mac stevekennedyuk / MSN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Euro Tech News Blog http://eurotechnews.blogspot.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] WIFI SIP- The Best phone
Those wifi phones are neat but I'd rather not carry around two devices, does anyone know of any good dual-mode GSM/SIP phones? I'm using a T-Mobile MDA right now and it is way too slow. Apparently the Nokia e61 has a built in SIP client, but there might be a new model around the corner (worth the wait?) Suggestions? Thanks! On 12/30/06, Matthew Mackes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, We have found that it will stay on line for around 6-7 hours with a full charge and no talk time, and we can get about 2 hours of straight talk time. We have given these units to our cashiers that are located out in parking lots, and our location mangers who walk a large location (Outside and Inside) and they are able to carry a phone for about 5 hours if they talk on it for a total of an hour during that time without charging. Our goal is to replace our current Radio's that we use for on site communications. Over all, I have been very happy with the charge vs talk time So much so, it hasn't ever been an issue. We have around 280 phones out at our locations at any one time, 150 in use.. So, for every phone we have in use, I have a spare waiting in a charger... that way a phone is always waiting in case. However I have only had to do that because we run a 9am until 11pm day, and our staff requires 100% phone uptime while they are on the move. Our managers until recently carried company issued cell phones- however with the full corporate move to Voip, Asterisk, Aastra Desk Voip phones and the Zulty WIP 2's I have had to ensure 100% uptime by throwing hardware at the project. However we really don't need allof the redudent units, my users are just a bit unreasonable. Their cell phones don't have any better talk time then the Zultys. However by connecting all of our locations with Voip over our PRN (Quest) we have been able to save so much on Telco Charges that I have a large budget Available to keep us up- Hence the overkill However--- For a Normal Office At our Headquarters I have also deployed about 25 of these phones to normal Cube workers, and they have NO trouble with them. They put them in the charger when they think of it, and they always have a charged phone... They only need one, and it replaced the Desktop Digital Nortel phone they used to have. They can take it to any of our locations, and boom, instantly on line with the same Number, Extension and services. And Since we are in 3 States, we use several collocated Asterisk Servers to create a Private Toll bypass network of Voip. Illinois, NY and Pennsylvania are all local PSTN calls no matter what state you are in. Also, if you are interested, we use a Alcatel Wireless Controller unit to provision, route, and control our 600 + Alcatel Wireless Access Points. Because all of the AP's are routed back to one controller, it helps with all IP roaming, not just WIFI Voip. I have also used Cisco 1200 AP's and those also work very well. I just wish I could find a DEPENDABLE service for DID and Termination via SIP I current am working with Vitality, and they are so, so. I hope that helps. Matt Mackes Delta Sonic Car Wash Systems Noah Miller wrote: HOWEVER- The Zultys WIP 2 is an INCREDIBLE WIFI B/G SIP PHONE- IT IS EXCELLENT IN ALL RESPECTS. Thanks for the tip! I hadn't seen these advertised before, and I've been searching for some time for a Wifi SIP phone that can handle multiple line appearances. One Question: Really only 12-13 hours on the standby time? That seems pretty short in comparison with all the other wifi phones. - Noah ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Mitchel Constantin Snap - A desktop user interface for Asterisk www.snapanumber.com ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] WIFI SIP- The Best phone
Hello Everyone, I can see that a few people are interested in SIP WIFI phones. I have tested several Linksys 300,and it is OK. More of a toy then a business tool. It a poor built in ear speaker, which makes all calls sound tinny, and the unit is known to hang. I have two Linksys 300's that are fun to play with however, I wont hand them out to users. HOWEVER- The Zultys WIP 2 is an INCREDIBLE WIFI B/G SIP PHONE- IT IS EXCELLENT IN ALL RESPECTS. My company (Largest Car wash Chain in the US) has purchased over 300 of these units for about $300 per unit, and everyone has been excellent. They Roam between access points without a drop, they have amazing call quality, the menus and setup is very professional, and they can be easily mass deployed via TFTP configs It is 100% Asterisk compatible, and absolutely dependable. They are Linux based. Check them out: www.neobits.c_m/zultys_wip_2__wi-fi_ip_voip_sip_telephone_p9656.html ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] WIFI SIP- The Best phone
Matthew Mackes wrote: Check them out: www.neobits.c_m/zultys_wip_2__wi-fi_ip_voip_sip_telephone_p9656.html Got 404 error on that link. -- Warm Regards, Lee ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] WIFI SIP- The Best phone
On 30 Dec 2006, at 23:14, Lee Jenkins wrote: Matthew Mackes wrote: Check them out: www.neobits.c_m/zultys_wip_2__wi- fi_ip_voip_sip_telephone_p9656.html Got 404 error on that link. try : http://www.neobits.com/zultys_wip_2__wi- fi_ip_voip_sip_telephone_p9656.html Tim Panton www.mexuar.net www.westhawk.co.uk/ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] WIFI SIP- The Best phone
www.neobits.com/zultys_wip_2__wi-fi_ip_voip_sip_telephone_p9656.html On 12/30/06, Lee Jenkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Mackes wrote: Check them out: www.neobits.c_m/zultys_wip_2__wi-fi_ip_voip_sip_telephone_p9656.html Got 404 error on that link. -- Warm Regards, Lee ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Bruce Nortex Networks ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] WIFI SIP- The Best phone
HOWEVER- The Zultys WIP 2 is an INCREDIBLE WIFI B/G SIP PHONE- IT IS EXCELLENT IN ALL RESPECTS. Thanks for the tip! I hadn't seen these advertised before, and I've been searching for some time for a Wifi SIP phone that can handle multiple line appearances. One Question: Really only 12-13 hours on the standby time? That seems pretty short in comparison with all the other wifi phones. - Noah ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] WIFI SIP- The Best phone
I agree with regards to the standby time. The Dlink DPH 540 has comparable talk time, but 30 hours of standby time. I sometimes go for 18 hours or so before my phone can see a charger again... Alex On 12/30/06, Noah Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HOWEVER- The Zultys WIP 2 is an INCREDIBLE WIFI B/G SIP PHONE- IT IS EXCELLENT IN ALL RESPECTS. Thanks for the tip! I hadn't seen these advertised before, and I've been searching for some time for a Wifi SIP phone that can handle multiple line appearances. One Question: Really only 12-13 hours on the standby time? That seems pretty short in comparison with all the other wifi phones. - Noah ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Alex Robar [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] WIFI SIP- The Best phone
Well, We have found that it will stay on line for around 6-7 hours with a full charge and no talk time, and we can get about 2 hours of straight talk time. We have given these units to our cashiers that are located out in parking lots, and our location mangers who walk a large location (Outside and Inside) and they are able to carry a phone for about 5 hours if they talk on it for a total of an hour during that time without charging. Our goal is to replace our current Radio's that we use for on site communications. Over all, I have been very happy with the charge vs talk time So much so, it hasn't ever been an issue. We have around 280 phones out at our locations at any one time, 150 in use.. So, for every phone we have in use, I have a spare waiting in a charger... that way a phone is always waiting in case. However I have only had to do that because we run a 9am until 11pm day, and our staff requires 100% phone uptime while they are on the move. Our managers until recently carried company issued cell phones- however with the full corporate move to Voip, Asterisk, Aastra Desk Voip phones and the Zulty WIP 2's I have had to ensure 100% uptime by throwing hardware at the project. However we really don't need allof the redudent units, my users are just a bit unreasonable. Their cell phones don't have any better talk time then the Zultys. However by connecting all of our locations with Voip over our PRN (Quest) we have been able to save so much on Telco Charges that I have a large budget Available to keep us up- Hence the overkill However--- For a Normal Office At our Headquarters I have also deployed about 25 of these phones to normal Cube workers, and they have NO trouble with them. They put them in the charger when they think of it, and they always have a charged phone... They only need one, and it replaced the Desktop Digital Nortel phone they used to have. They can take it to any of our locations, and boom, instantly on line with the same Number, Extension and services. And Since we are in 3 States, we use several collocated Asterisk Servers to create a Private Toll bypass network of Voip. Illinois, NY and Pennsylvania are all local PSTN calls no matter what state you are in. Also, if you are interested, we use a Alcatel Wireless Controller unit to provision, route, and control our 600 + Alcatel Wireless Access Points. Because all of the AP's are routed back to one controller, it helps with all IP roaming, not just WIFI Voip. I have also used Cisco 1200 AP's and those also work very well. I just wish I could find a DEPENDABLE service for DID and Termination via SIP I current am working with Vitality, and they are so, so. I hope that helps. Matt Mackes Delta Sonic Car Wash Systems Noah Miller wrote: HOWEVER- The Zultys WIP 2 is an INCREDIBLE WIFI B/G SIP PHONE- IT IS EXCELLENT IN ALL RESPECTS. Thanks for the tip! I hadn't seen these advertised before, and I've been searching for some time for a Wifi SIP phone that can handle multiple line appearances. One Question: Really only 12-13 hours on the standby time? That seems pretty short in comparison with all the other wifi phones. - Noah ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
