[asterisk-users] asterisk on Vmware
Hello, Is it possible to install Asterisk on Vmware(centos) from source. Is there any difference or disadvantage for this compared to asterisk running on physical machine. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk on Vmware
Tino wrote: Hello, Is it possible to install Asterisk on Vmware(centos) from source. Is there any difference or disadvantage for this compared to asterisk running on physical machine. What version of vmware? Generally it works but it could be a problem if you require access to dahdi interface cards. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk on Vmware
Thanks Gareth for your quick reply. It is the lateset version and i think i need access to Dahdi interface. Is there any disadvantages other than this. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Gareth Blades list-aster...@skycomuk.comwrote: Tino wrote: Hello, Is it possible to install Asterisk on Vmware(centos) from source. Is there any difference or disadvantage for this compared to asterisk running on physical machine. What version of vmware? Generally it works but it could be a problem if you require access to dahdi interface cards. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk on Vmware
On 08/11/10 18:46, Tino wrote: Thanks Gareth for your quick reply. It is the lateset version and i think i need access to Dahdi interface. Is there any disadvantages other than this. If you need access to cards installed in the machine, you can forget running Asterisk under VMware. VMware does not allow direct access to the underlying hardware on the machine. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk on Vmware
'latest version' doesnt really help. There are multiple products. Tino wrote: Thanks Gareth for your quick reply. It is the lateset version and i think i need access to Dahdi interface. Is there any disadvantages other than this. On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 2:11 PM, Gareth Blades list-aster...@skycomuk.com mailto:list-aster...@skycomuk.com wrote: Tino wrote: Hello, Is it possible to install Asterisk on Vmware(centos) from source. Is there any difference or disadvantage for this compared to asterisk running on physical machine. What version of vmware? Generally it works but it could be a problem if you require access to dahdi interface cards. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk on Vmware
Are you talking about VMware Server, ESX/ESXi, or one of their other products? The only VMWare product that I can even conceive might work is ESX/ESXi. Others have already pointed out that in VMware, you won't get direct access to the hardware. VMWare does have some limited capability to directly interface with hardware, but I agree with everybody else that it is likely not going to work. The second problem with VMWare in a virtual machine is timing. On a physical machine, Asterisk and Linux have almost complete control over the timing. That's important for voice data streams that need to send data at precise points in time. In a virtual machine, I would expect poorer sound quality due to dropouts. From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tino Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2010 1:37 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [asterisk-users] asterisk on Vmware Hello, Is it possible to install Asterisk on Vmware(centos) from source. Is there any difference or disadvantage for this compared to asterisk running on physical machine. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk on Vmware
I have an asterisk 1.6.2 server running on Debian Lenny on ESX which bridges ENUM SIP and Skype Calls with our Cisco PBX (connected via SIP). I have not heard of any problems so far regarding timing. Voice is always clear and fine. hth Philipp On 2010-08-11 13:23, Kevin Keane wrote: Are you talking about VMware Server, ESX/ESXi, or one of their other products? The only VMWare product that I can even conceive might work is ESX/ESXi. Others have already pointed out that in VMware, you won't get direct access to the hardware. VMWare does have some limited capability to directly interface with hardware, but I agree with everybody else that it is likely not going to work. The second problem with VMWare in a virtual machine is timing. On a physical machine, Asterisk and Linux have almost complete control over the timing. That's important for voice data streams that need to send data at precise points in time. In a virtual machine, I would expect poorer sound quality due to dropouts. *From:* asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Tino *Sent:* Wednesday, August 11, 2010 1:37 AM *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion *Subject:* [asterisk-users] asterisk on Vmware Hello, Is it possible to install Asterisk on Vmware(centos) from source. Is there any difference or disadvantage for this compared to asterisk running on physical machine. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk on Vmware
On 10-08-11 04:36 AM, Tino wrote: Is it possible to install Asterisk on Vmware(centos) from source. Is there any difference or disadvantage for this compared to asterisk running on physical machine. As mentioned you won't have access to DAHDI hardware as VMware won't permit access to it. However, I have run VMware Server 2 on several machines and successfully used Asterisk inside of it, at least for testing purposes. For a while I was running my business PBX in a virtual machine until I ran into some issues, but it ended up not being related to VMware and I never switched it back -- however I have low load (i.e. 2-3 channels at most). Some tips: * If you need hardware access and you can install into the host system (like when you run VMware Server), you could install a barebones Asterisk installation along with DAHDI and use that as the access from your virtual machines to the hardware over SIP (i.e. create a connection from the virtual machine Asterisk to the host system Asterisk via SIP). This way you could have multiple phone numbers and direct each number from the host system to one of several virtual machines. * As of Asterisk 1.6.2, you have additional timing options such as res_timing_pthread and res_timing_timerfd (kernel version dependent). The res_timing_pthread had several issues in the past, but should have been fixed for the most part as of Asterisk version 1.6.2.10 (don't use that timing module before that version). * Giving the virtual machine more RAM than necessary can actually make the system perform worse rather than better in my experience. * Perform load testing with SIPp to make sure you system can handle what you expect to put on it. I typically do this by loading up the system with SIPp and having an extension (my phone) dialed into the Milliwatt() application to listen for when audio quality starts to die, and note that as the max load / max calls / max memory for the system. * Good luck! :) Leif Madsen. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk on Vmware
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Tino t...@sparksupport.com wrote: Is it possible to install Asterisk on Vmware(centos) from source. Is there any difference or disadvantage for this compared to asterisk running on physical machine. This has come up repeatedly on the list. Basically, the less you use it, the less likely you are to run into problems. Some people have reported voice quality issues, due to unreliable timing sources. Other people report they haven't seen those problems. If voice quality issues are a deal breaker for you, don't do this. -- _ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in VMWare, how does it perform and what is the limit?
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 7:25 PM, Pascal Bruno tipas...@gmail.com wrote: Where you able to compile DAHDI in a virtual environment? How about skype for asterisk? Has anyone tried that in a virtual environment? Seems like to register the license, digium tool is looking for a connection on eth0, and in a virtual environment I see the name as vnet0 or vnet1. At least that what I see on godaddy's virtual servers. I did that under VMWare (Server / formerly GSX), including the Skype for Asterisk, and it works (only after upgrading to 1.6.1.3-rc1, earlier version crashed after Skype call setup, but that's not related to the VM, but an asterisk bug...). Though it is merely a test environment, I haven't even tried more than one simultaneous call. HTH, -- Shimi ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Asterisk in VMWare, how does it perform and what is the limit?
Hi, I'm coming up with ideas about building a cluster of asterisk servers, and am exploring the virtualization option. I'm curious to know some real-world data about how many extensions a VMWare install on good hardware could support. I've seen stories about how the hypervisor timeslicing can wreak havoc on call quality at some point. Is this really the case? If so, what's a feasible extension limit? 20? 50? 100? Any information would be great. Thanks. -- James ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in VMWare, how does it perform and what is the limit?
It depends on processor capability, disk access time and bandwidth. You will need to dedicate slices of disk and bandwidth for each machine. A realworld scenario of worst case would be this: You get sucky throughput on VM2 because 3 or 4 folks are monitoring calls or using voicemail on VM1. -Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of James Lamanna Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 10:47 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in VMWare,how does it perform and what is the limit? Hi, I'm coming up with ideas about building a cluster of asterisk servers, and am exploring the virtualization option. I'm curious to know some real-world data about how many extensions a VMWare install on good hardware could support. I've seen stories about how the hypervisor timeslicing can wreak havoc on call quality at some point. Is this really the case? If so, what's a feasible extension limit? 20? 50? 100? Any information would be great. Thanks. -- James ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in VMWare, how does it perform and what is the limit?
been testing with Sun VirtualBox and i managed more than 30 extensions on a 2GHz Dual core machine with 1 GB ram for the VBOX.. just not running recodring or encoding .. things went well -- AHD Tarek Sawah Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:47:03 -0700 From: jlama...@gmail.com To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in VMWare, how does it perform and what is the limit? Hi, I'm coming up with ideas about building a cluster of asterisk servers, and am exploring the virtualization option. I'm curious to know some real-world data about how many extensions a VMWare install on good hardware could support. I've seen stories about how the hypervisor timeslicing can wreak havoc on call quality at some point. Is this really the case? If so, what's a feasible extension limit? 20? 50? 100? Any information would be great. Thanks. -- James ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=PID23384::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:NF_BR_sync:082009 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in VMWare, how does it perform and what is the limit?
Where you able to compile DAHDI in a virtual environment? How about skype for asterisk? Has anyone tried that in a virtual environment? Seems like to register the license, digium tool is looking for a connection on eth0, and in a virtual environment I see the name as vnet0 or vnet1. At least that what I see on godaddy's virtual servers. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Tarek Sawah tareksa...@hotmail.com wrote: been testing with Sun VirtualBox and i managed more than 30 extensions on a 2GHz Dual core machine with 1 GB ram for the VBOX.. just not running recodring or encoding .. things went well -- AHD Tarek Sawah Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:47:03 -0700 From: jlama...@gmail.com To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in VMWare, how does it perform and what is the limit? Hi, I'm coming up with ideas about building a cluster of asterisk servers, and am exploring the virtualization option. I'm curious to know some real-world data about how many extensions a VMWare install on good hardware could support. I've seen stories about how the hypervisor timeslicing can wreak havoc on call quality at some point. Is this really the case? If so, what's a feasible extension limit? 20? 50? 100? Any information would be great. Thanks. -- James ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=PID23384::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:NF_BR_sync:082009 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in VMWare, how does it perform and what is the limit?
Talk to damin AT nacs.net (he's on this mailinglist) Zoaaa James Lamanna wrote: Hi, I'm coming up with ideas about building a cluster of asterisk servers, and am exploring the virtualization option. I'm curious to know some real-world data about how many extensions a VMWare install on good hardware could support. I've seen stories about how the hypervisor timeslicing can wreak havoc on call quality at some point. Is this really the case? If so, what's a feasible extension limit? 20? 50? 100? Any information would be great. Thanks. -- James ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in VMWare, how does it perform and what is the limit?
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:47 AM, James Lamannajlama...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm coming up with ideas about building a cluster of asterisk servers, and am exploring the virtualization option. I'm curious to know some real-world data about how many extensions a VMWare install on good hardware could support. I've seen stories about how the hypervisor timeslicing can wreak havoc on call quality at some point. Is this really the case? If so, what's a feasible extension limit? 20? 50? 100? Any information would be great. So VMWare messes around with clock timing. This is a Bad Thing if you're trying to do things that rely on faithful timing, such as audio mixing for a MeetMe conference room. If you're only doing very simple things like playing messages or ordinary bridged two-way phone calls it probably wouldn't be as bad. If call quality matters, at all, I wouldn't go that route. If managing a real server with asterisk is too hard for your data center, may I humbly suggest an asterisk appliance? ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in VMWare, how does it perform and what is the limit?
On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 11:47 AM, James Lamannajlama...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm coming up with ideas about building a cluster of asterisk servers, and am exploring the virtualization option. I'm curious to know some real-world data about how many extensions a VMWare install on good hardware could support. I've seen stories about how the hypervisor timeslicing can wreak havoc on call quality at some point. Is this really the case? If so, what's a feasible extension limit? 20? 50? 100? Any information would be great. So VMWare messes around with clock timing. This is a Bad Thing if you're trying to do things that rely on faithful timing, such as audio mixing for a MeetMe conference room. If you're only doing very simple things like playing messages or ordinary bridged two-way phone calls it probably wouldn't be as bad. If call quality matters, at all, I wouldn't go that route. If managing a real server with asterisk is too hard for your data center, may I humbly suggest an asterisk appliance? Managing a server isn't the problem, I'm just looking to explore all solutions. If the call quality issues are that bad on vmware, then it is a non-starter in my book, especially trying to support the number of extensions I have now (I have 500 at the moment). Thanks. -- James ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in VMWare, how does it perform and what is the limit?
I was able to get a VMWare Fusion CentOS 5.3 with Asterisk 1.6.0.9 talking to a Xorcom Astribank on my MacBook. I could connect a POTS line to an FXO port and a phone to an FXS port and make calls. -- Jim Dickenson mailto:dicken...@cfmc.com CfMC http://www.cfmc.com/ On Aug 7, 2009, at 9:25 AM, Pascal Bruno wrote: Where you able to compile DAHDI in a virtual environment? How about skype for asterisk? Has anyone tried that in a virtual environment? Seems like to register the license, digium tool is looking for a connection on eth0, and in a virtual environment I see the name as vnet0 or vnet1. At least that what I see on godaddy's virtual servers. On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Tarek Sawah tareksa...@hotmail.com wrote: been testing with Sun VirtualBox and i managed more than 30 extensions on a 2GHz Dual core machine with 1 GB ram for the VBOX.. just not running recodring or encoding .. things went well -- AHD Tarek Sawah Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 08:47:03 -0700 From: jlama...@gmail.com To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk in VMWare, how does it perform and what is the limit? Hi, I'm coming up with ideas about building a cluster of asterisk servers, and am exploring the virtualization option. I'm curious to know some real-world data about how many extensions a VMWare install on good hardware could support. I've seen stories about how the hypervisor timeslicing can wreak havoc on call quality at some point. Is this really the case? If so, what's a feasible extension limit? 20? 50? 100? Any information would be great. Thanks. -- James ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=PID23384::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:NF_BR_sync:082009 ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2009 - October 13 - 15 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on VMware Workstation 6
yes i have ztdummy loaded. i assume that is what i want. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Gibson Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:40 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on VMware Workstation 6 Do you have ztdummy loaded in the VM? Thanks, Matt G : http://www.voipphreak.ca : http://www.ratemydialplan.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael J. Liberatore Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:28 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on VMware Workstation 6 Hi, i am running a small personal asterisk server for my business, and instead of getting a dedicated machine to run linux which would waste power and money i decided to run it on my windows xp sp2 machine. The machine is barely used but it does have some crucial programs i need to run in windows so reformating or dual booting is not an option. Its basically a iax2 connection to my voip provider and a sip connection to my phone. It does work well, but the calls especially the voicemail are all garbarled alot. Its definetly not the provider or internet connection because i use this provider for many clients asterisk setups and i also even setup a temp. asterisk setup on this very pc to test to make sure it was infact vmware causing the problem. I upgraded from vmware player to the latest vmware workstation hoping that would fix the problem since its a better system but it hasnt. I also installed and compiled the vmware tools when i installed workstation version. Is this a known issue with vmware? Is there a way to correct the issue either on the windows/vmware side or on the asterisk/linux side? Any other ways to do this project? i looked into astwind or something but either couldnt get it to work or it was unreliable. thanks mike This E-mail, including any attachments, may be intended solely for the personal and confidential use of the sender and recipient(s) named above. This message may include advisory, consultative and/or deliberative material and, as such, would be privileged and confidential and not a public document. Pursuant to 42 CFR, any information in this e-mail identifying a former, present, or potential client of Straight Narrow is confidential. If you have received this e-mail in error, you must not review, transmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it and you must delete this message. You are requested to notify the sender by return e-mail. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on VMware Workstation 6
Its really just a very minor system I am running, its sole purpose is a vm basically. Well a VM that can redirect calls based on number. I would prefer to just run it on this windows machine doing nothing most of the time. Id rather not buy an appliance, maybe if its $100 but I would rather just grab an old celeron pc I have laying around and use that, but I am trying to do this green and since this windows pc is running 24/7 anyways (cause I never know when I will need to connect to it) I figured it was a good shot. Maybe a different virtualization software like virtual pc would run better. I think some tweaking is what I need though, I don't care if the call quality is great, I just want it usable. Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Howes Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:29 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on VMware Workstation 6 Hi, Agreed. Asterisk on a VM appears to work sometimes, only if magic is involved. It is not the way to run anything for a business. Steve On 25 Sep 2008, at 02:36, Dean Collins wrote: Mike, Buy an asterisk appliance like http://www.taa.com/products-vdex-40.html problem solved. If you are worried about good call quality it's either a dedicated pc or a dedicated appliance, one or the other. Cheers, Dean From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Michael J. Liberatore Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2008 8:28 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on VMware Workstation 6 Hi, i am running a small personal asterisk server for my business, and instead of getting a dedicated machine to run linux which would waste power and money i decided to run it on my windows xp sp2 machine. The machine is barely used but it does have some crucial programs i need to run in windows so reformating or dual booting is not an option. Its basically a iax2 connection to my voip provider and a sip connection to my phone. It does work well, but the calls especially the voicemail are all garbarled alot. Its definetly not the provider or internet connection because i use this provider for many clients asterisk setups and i also even setup a temp. asterisk setup on this very pc to test to make sure it was infact vmware causing the problem. I upgraded from vmware player to the latest vmware workstation hoping that would fix the problem since its a better system but it hasnt. I also installed and compiled the vmware tools when i installed workstation version. Is this a known issue with vmware? Is there a way to correct the issue either on the windows/vmware side or on the asterisk/linux side? Any other ways to do this project? i looked into astwind or something but either couldnt get it to work or it was unreliable. thanks mike This E-mail, including any attachments, may be intended solely for the personal and confidential use of the sender and recipient(s) named above. This message may include advisory, consultative and/or deliberative material and, as such, would be privileged and confidential and not a public document. Pursuant to 42 CFR, any information in this e-mail identifying a former, present, or potential client of Straight Narrow is confidential. If you have received this e-mail in error, you must not review, transmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it and you must delete this message. You are requested to notify the sender by return e-mail. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on VMware Workstation 6
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael J. Liberatore wrote: Its really just a very minor system I am running, its sole purpose is a vm basically. Well a VM that can redirect calls based on number. I would prefer to just run it on this windows machine doing nothing most of the time. Id rather not buy an appliance, maybe if its $100 but I would rather just grab an old celeron pc I have laying around and use that, but I am trying to do this green and since this windows pc is running 24/7 anyways (cause I never know when I will need to connect to it) I figured it was a good shot. Maybe a different virtualization software like virtual pc would run better. I think some tweaking is what I need though, I don't care if the call quality is great, I just want it usable. Coming in from the side here... Why not use XEN and have asterisk in a xen VM, which some people here claim to have working, and then have a second VM for windows. I have a windows XP Pro VM running under xen just in case I need to use a windows based application, or whatever, from time to time... It works well for me, I haven't tried asterisk in a VM as yet though... but might one day... Regards, Adam - -- Adam Goryachev Website Managers www.websitemanagers.com.au -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFI3JsIGyoxogrTyiURAi2UAKCGuoNdby+4hSipuVnfaBi6onXfdQCgquSV Yp4eDzhjNg48M+G3lhgdNrA= =KgqM -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on VMware Workstation 6
On Wednesday 24 September 2008 19:28:17 Michael J. Liberatore wrote: Hi, i am running a small personal asterisk server for my business, and instead of getting a dedicated machine to run linux which would waste power and money i decided to run it on my windows xp sp2 machine. The machine is barely used but it does have some crucial programs i need to run in windows so reformating or dual booting is not an option. One option might be to run in the opposite vmware direction. That is, run Linux as the native OS and run Windows within a vmware instance. That gives you the Windows compatibility for your applications, while at the same time providing the critical hardware timing for your Asterisk instance. -- Tilghman ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on VMware Workstation 6
Your idea (and adam's to run xen) is a very good idea. I have considered it but I'd rather not do a complete reinstall on this xp machine, but if I can deal with that then it would prob work well. I am going to play with the settings, etc to try to get this working first though. Or like I mentioned maybe I will try virtual pc. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tilghman Lesher Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 12:50 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on VMware Workstation 6 On Wednesday 24 September 2008 19:28:17 Michael J. Liberatore wrote: Hi, i am running a small personal asterisk server for my business, and instead of getting a dedicated machine to run linux which would waste power and money i decided to run it on my windows xp sp2 machine. The machine is barely used but it does have some crucial programs i need to run in windows so reformating or dual booting is not an option. One option might be to run in the opposite vmware direction. That is, run Linux as the native OS and run Windows within a vmware instance. That gives you the Windows compatibility for your applications, while at the same time providing the critical hardware timing for your Asterisk instance. -- Tilghman ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users This E-mail, including any attachments, may be intended solely for the personal and confidential use of the sender and recipient(s) named above. This message may include advisory, consultative and/or deliberative material and, as such, would be privileged and confidential and not a public document. Pursuant to 42 CFR, any information in this e-mail identifying a former, present, or potential client of Straight Narrow is confidential. If you have received this e-mail in error, you must not review, transmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it and you must delete this message. You are requested to notify the sender by return e-mail. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on VMware Workstation 6
One option might be to run in the opposite vmware direction. That is, run Linux as the native OS and run Windows within a vmware instance. That gives you the Windows compatibility for your applications, while at the same time providing the critical hardware timing for your Asterisk instance. I second this idea. You don't want Asterisk down because it's Patch Tuesday again. While you're at it, use VMWare Server 2.0, which doesn't cost anything more than Player and might work better. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on VMware Workstation 6
Hi, Agreed. Asterisk on a VM appears to work sometimes, only if magic is involved. It is not the way to run anything for a business. Steve On 25 Sep 2008, at 02:36, Dean Collins wrote: Mike, Buy an asterisk appliance like http://www.taa.com/products-vdex-40.html problem solved. If you are worried about good call quality it’s either a dedicated pc or a dedicated appliance, one or the other. Cheers, Dean From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Michael J. Liberatore Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2008 8:28 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on VMware Workstation 6 Hi, i am running a small personal asterisk server for my business, and instead of getting a dedicated machine to run linux which would waste power and money i decided to run it on my windows xp sp2 machine. The machine is barely used but it does have some crucial programs i need to run in windows so reformating or dual booting is not an option. Its basically a iax2 connection to my voip provider and a sip connection to my phone. It does work well, but the calls especially the voicemail are all garbarled alot. Its definetly not the provider or internet connection because i use this provider for many clients asterisk setups and i also even setup a temp. asterisk setup on this very pc to test to make sure it was infact vmware causing the problem. I upgraded from vmware player to the latest vmware workstation hoping that would fix the problem since its a better system but it hasnt. I also installed and compiled the vmware tools when i installed workstation version. Is this a known issue with vmware? Is there a way to correct the issue either on the windows/vmware side or on the asterisk/linux side? Any other ways to do this project? i looked into astwind or something but either couldnt get it to work or it was unreliable. thanks mike This E-mail, including any attachments, may be intended solely for the personal and confidential use of the sender and recipient(s) named above. This message may include advisory, consultative and/or deliberative material and, as such, would be privileged and confidential and not a public document. Pursuant to 42 CFR, any information in this e-mail identifying a former, present, or potential client of Straight Narrow is confidential. If you have received this e-mail in error, you must not review, transmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it and you must delete this message. You are requested to notify the sender by return e-mail. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Asterisk on VMware Workstation 6
Hi, i am running a small personal asterisk server for my business, and instead of getting a dedicated machine to run linux which would waste power and money i decided to run it on my windows xp sp2 machine. The machine is barely used but it does have some crucial programs i need to run in windows so reformating or dual booting is not an option. Its basically a iax2 connection to my voip provider and a sip connection to my phone. It does work well, but the calls especially the voicemail are all garbarled alot. Its definetly not the provider or internet connection because i use this provider for many clients asterisk setups and i also even setup a temp. asterisk setup on this very pc to test to make sure it was infact vmware causing the problem. I upgraded from vmware player to the latest vmware workstation hoping that would fix the problem since its a better system but it hasnt. I also installed and compiled the vmware tools when i installed workstation version. Is this a known issue with vmware? Is there a way to correct the issue either on the windows/vmware side or on the asterisk/linux side? Any other ways to do this project? i looked into astwind or something but either couldnt get it to work or it was unreliable. thanks mike This E-mail, including any attachments, may be intended solely for the personal and confidential use of the sender and recipient(s) named above. This message may include advisory, consultative and/or deliberative material and, as such, would be privileged and confidential and not a public document. Pursuant to 42 CFR, any information in this e-mail identifying a former, present, or potential client of Straight Narrow is confidential. If you have received this e-mail in error, you must not review, transmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it and you must delete this message. You are requested to notify the sender by return e-mail. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on VMware Workstation 6
Do you have ztdummy loaded in the VM? Thanks, Matt G : http://www.voipphreak.ca : http://www.ratemydialplan.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael J. Liberatore Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:28 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on VMware Workstation 6 Hi, i am running a small personal asterisk server for my business, and instead of getting a dedicated machine to run linux which would waste power and money i decided to run it on my windows xp sp2 machine. The machine is barely used but it does have some crucial programs i need to run in windows so reformating or dual booting is not an option. Its basically a iax2 connection to my voip provider and a sip connection to my phone. It does work well, but the calls especially the voicemail are all garbarled alot. Its definetly not the provider or internet connection because i use this provider for many clients asterisk setups and i also even setup a temp. asterisk setup on this very pc to test to make sure it was infact vmware causing the problem. I upgraded from vmware player to the latest vmware workstation hoping that would fix the problem since its a better system but it hasnt. I also installed and compiled the vmware tools when i installed workstation version. Is this a known issue with vmware? Is there a way to correct the issue either on the windows/vmware side or on the asterisk/linux side? Any other ways to do this project? i looked into astwind or something but either couldnt get it to work or it was unreliable. thanks mike This E-mail, including any attachments, may be intended solely for the personal and confidential use of the sender and recipient(s) named above. This message may include advisory, consultative and/or deliberative material and, as such, would be privileged and confidential and not a public document. Pursuant to 42 CFR, any information in this e-mail identifying a former, present, or potential client of Straight Narrow is confidential. If you have received this e-mail in error, you must not review, transmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it and you must delete this message. You are requested to notify the sender by return e-mail. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on VMware Workstation 6
Mike, Buy an asterisk appliance like http://www.taa.com/products-vdex-40.html problem solved. If you are worried about good call quality it's either a dedicated pc or a dedicated appliance, one or the other. Cheers, Dean From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael J. Liberatore Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2008 8:28 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk on VMware Workstation 6 Hi, i am running a small personal asterisk server for my business, and instead of getting a dedicated machine to run linux which would waste power and money i decided to run it on my windows xp sp2 machine. The machine is barely used but it does have some crucial programs i need to run in windows so reformating or dual booting is not an option. Its basically a iax2 connection to my voip provider and a sip connection to my phone. It does work well, but the calls especially the voicemail are all garbarled alot. Its definetly not the provider or internet connection because i use this provider for many clients asterisk setups and i also even setup a temp. asterisk setup on this very pc to test to make sure it was infact vmware causing the problem. I upgraded from vmware player to the latest vmware workstation hoping that would fix the problem since its a better system but it hasnt. I also installed and compiled the vmware tools when i installed workstation version. Is this a known issue with vmware? Is there a way to correct the issue either on the windows/vmware side or on the asterisk/linux side? Any other ways to do this project? i looked into astwind or something but either couldnt get it to work or it was unreliable. thanks mike This E-mail, including any attachments, may be intended solely for the personal and confidential use of the sender and recipient(s) named above. This message may include advisory, consultative and/or deliberative material and, as such, would be privileged and confidential and not a public document. Pursuant to 42 CFR, any information in this e-mail identifying a former, present, or potential client of Straight Narrow is confidential. If you have received this e-mail in error, you must not review, transmit, convert to hard copy, copy, use or disseminate this e-mail or any attachments to it and you must delete this message. You are requested to notify the sender by return e-mail. ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare
Chris Bagnall wrote: Our testing has yielded pretty good results. We had 10 simultaneous calls with ulaw and quality was very good. We are pure VOIP also. How many VMs were you running at the time, and what load were they under? We've setups running between 3 and 5 VMs on a single box (multi-core, lots of RAM, etc.) and we haven't had any problems with them. Would be interesting to know how well it'll scale with more VMs on each box Also, the number of successful Asterisk VMs will depend on the virtualisation technology used. The literature strongly suggests that Xen will work better than VMware, OpenVZ better than Xen, and Virtuozzo better than OpenVZ. YMMV. We offer (as a business) Virtual Private Asterisk Servers (see www.vpas.ca) and have no problem running many more than 3 to 5 virtual Asterisk instances on a single server in commercially demanding environments. -- George Pajari (dCAP), netVOICE communications 604 484 VOIP(8647) x102 www.netvoice.ca www.ip-centrex.ca www.ip-pbx.ca www.vpas.ca www.digium.ca www.grandstream.ca www.sipura.ca www.snom.ca Open Source VoIP/Telephony Specialists 1 877 NET VOIP (638 8647 x102) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare
P == Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: P There is a Xen page called something like cool configurations. It P has information how you can configure access to a PCI card. Iirc it P is even possible to assign one PCI slot/card to one virtual client P and another PCI slot to another virtual client. Thanks to CentOS' P Andreas Rogge for finding that info for me at the T-DOSE P conference. Just be careful, this is not a security solution. If you get root in a virtual server which has been assigned a PCI card, it is highly likely that you can use that PCI card to DMA to the host, gaining you root access in the host or any other virtual server. This problem can only be solved in hardware. Both Intel and AMD are working on it, some non-x86 vendors have had it for a while. /Benny ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare
Our testing has yielded pretty good results. We had 10 simultaneous calls with ulaw and quality was very good. We are pure VOIP also. How many VMs were you running at the time, and what load were they under? We've setups running between 3 and 5 VMs on a single box (multi-core, lots of RAM, etc.) and we haven't had any problems with them. Would be interesting to know how well it'll scale with more VMs on each box. Regards, Chris -- C.M. Bagnall, Director, Minotaur I.T. Limited For full contact details visit http://www.minotaur.it This email is made from 100% recycled electrons ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare
Anyone had any experience with an Asterisk server as a VMWare virtual machine? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare
On 18:51, Tue 23 Oct 07, WipeOut wrote: Anyone had any experience with an Asterisk server as a VMWare virtual machine? We are running multiple sites as a VMWare virtual machine. All of them are voip only, so I have no idea how it works with T1/E1/POTS interface cards, but as a pure voip setup it works great. -- Michiel van Baak [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://michiel.vanbaak.eu GnuPG key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x71C946BD Why is it drug addicts and computer afficionados are both called users? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare
Michiel van Baak wrote: On 18:51, Tue 23 Oct 07, WipeOut wrote: Anyone had any experience with an Asterisk server as a VMWare virtual machine? We are running multiple sites as a VMWare virtual machine. All of them are voip only, so I have no idea how it works with T1/E1/POTS interface cards, but as a pure voip setup it works great. I've understood that VMWare virtual machines cannot access physical hardware in the host machine directly, only the emulated hardware VMWare provides. As such, no T1/E1/POTS interfaces that connect via PCI. I'm not sure about the suitability of this route, but I would assume that any T1/E1/POTS USB devices out there would work, if they exist, because VMWare *does* allow the host's USB devices to connect to the guest.. Wasn't there talk on the list lately about a USB DS3 adapter? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare
Michiel van Baak wrote: On 18:51, Tue 23 Oct 07, WipeOut wrote: Anyone had any experience with an Asterisk server as a VMWare virtual machine? We are running multiple sites as a VMWare virtual machine. All of them are voip only, so I have no idea how it works with T1/E1/POTS interface cards, but as a pure voip setup it works great. Our testing has yielded pretty good results. We had 10 simultaneous calls with ulaw and quality was very good. We are pure VOIP also. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare
Quoting WipeOut [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Anyone had any experience with an Asterisk server as a VMWare virtual machine? I was trying to run it under XEN and got into trouble so in all my searches, the conclusion was that running it under VMWare didn't work because of the faulty timer in VMWare... My problem with XEN was due to the fact that I needed access to a PRI card which I never managed to do (didn't try hard enough?). But my Asterisk at home works just perfect under XEN. I don't need hardware access there... XEN solves the timing issue different from VMWare so... ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare
Mike Clark wrote: Michiel van Baak wrote: On 18:51, Tue 23 Oct 07, WipeOut wrote: Anyone had any experience with an Asterisk server as a VMWare virtual machine? We are running multiple sites as a VMWare virtual machine. All of them are voip only, so I have no idea how it works with T1/E1/POTS interface cards, but as a pure voip setup it works great. Our testing has yielded pretty good results. We had 10 simultaneous calls with ulaw and quality was very good. We are pure VOIP also. Excellent.. Thats very positive.. Now to find a UK based IAX trunk outbound call provider.. :) ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare
On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 20:58 +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: [snip] My problem with XEN was due to the fact that I needed access to a PRI card which I never managed to do (didn't try hard enough?). There is a Xen page called something like cool configurations. It has information how you can configure access to a PCI card. Iirc it is even possible to assign one PCI slot/card to one virtual client and another PCI slot to another virtual client. Thanks to CentOS' Andreas Rogge for finding that info for me at the T-DOSE conference. Regards, Patrick ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare
As a pure SIP solution, we have switched as many as 120 call paths through a VM on a lightly populated host. Bryan M. Johns Partner Shelton | Johns Office: 678.248.2637 FindMe: 678.229.1809 http://www.sheltonjohns.com - Original Message - From: WipeOut [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:51:23 PM (GMT-0500) America/New_York Subject: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare Anyone had any experience with an Asterisk server as a VMWare virtual machine? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk under VMWare; Great Topic
Anyone had any experience with an Asterisk server as a VMWare virtual machine? We use Asterisk in virtual machines for testing only, nothing in productions. We have been discussing production virtual Asterisk servers but have not tested yet. I would like to hear from anyone running multiple Asterisk Virtual Machines on one or more servers in production environment. Researching found that Asterisk will not work well in a virtual cluster OS implementation (multiple cluster nodes [think beowulf]) due to SIP stack issues, multi threading across multiple RAM resources. Can anyone shed some more light on why this is and is anyone trying to improve this? Thanks. JR -- JR Richardson Engineering for the Masses ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Asterisk 1.2.6, VMWare, Playback/Background GSM prompts
I've spent the past week experimenting with [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.6, andthen Asterisk 1.2.6 individually, on VMWare Workstation 5.5. I have anentirely IP (hard soft)phone setup (IAX and SIP) so I have norequirements to support any Digium PCI cards, etc.All in Asterisk works extremely well except for one thing: Playback ofsounds (GSM format) such as an ivr greetings, sound terrible. Choppy,uneven, broken audio, etc to the caller.I have a fairly fast system as the host: dual core AMD X2, 2GB mem,running SMP 64-bit centos-4.2. Asterisk guest OS is centos-4.2 32bit.No other guests are running.Just for grins, I also installed Asterisk on a lowly 3-year old AMDDuron system (no VMWare). Using the same Asterisk config files andsound files as above, but in this case the audio playback (using theAsterisk 'background"' command) sounds perfect.Anyone else notice this when using Asterisk with VMWareIdeas? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk 1.2.6, VMWare, Playback/Background GSM prompts
You can't reliably run a real-time application (like asterisk) on a virtual machine. You will get better performance from an old PC than a VM on a new top-end PC. Sorry MD From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 12:40 PMTo: asterisk-users@lists.digium.comSubject: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk 1.2.6, VMWare, Playback/Background GSM prompts I've spent the past week experimenting with [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.6, andthen Asterisk 1.2.6 individually, on VMWare Workstation 5.5. I have anentirely IP (hard soft)phone setup (IAX and SIP) so I have norequirements to support any Digium PCI cards, etc.All in Asterisk works extremely well except for one thing: Playback ofsounds (GSM format) such as an ivr greetings, sound terrible. Choppy,uneven, broken audio, etc to the caller.I have a fairly fast system as the host: dual core AMD X2, 2GB mem,running SMP 64-bit centos-4.2. Asterisk guest OS is centos-4.2 32bit.No other guests are running.Just for grins, I also installed Asterisk on a lowly 3-year old AMDDuron system (no VMWare). Using the same Asterisk config files andsound files as above, but in this case the audio playback (using theAsterisk 'background"' command) sounds perfect.Anyone else notice this when using Asterisk with VMWareIdeas? ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk 1.2.6, VMWare, Playback/Background GSM prompts
On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 13:08 -0500, Technical Support wrote: You can't reliably run a real-time application (like asterisk) on a virtual machine. You will get better performance from an old PC than a VM on a new top-end PC. Sorry MD H, I would have to say a properly configured GSX server running on Linux will run almost any OS and outperform and old PC. So you may want to go with GSX vs. Workstation if you don't just have a PC you can put * on by itself. -Greg ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk 1.2.6, VMWare, Playback/Background GSM prompts
For what it is worth I had the same experience with VMWare server. I got better sound from my 5 year old workstation. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 3/28/2006 12:40 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk 1.2.6, VMWare, Playback/Background GSM prompts I've spent the past week experimenting with [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.6, and then Asterisk 1.2.6 individually, on VMWare Workstation 5.5. I have an entirely IP (hard soft)phone setup (IAX and SIP) so I have no requirements to support any Digium PCI cards, etc. All in Asterisk works extremely well except for one thing: Playback of sounds (GSM format) such as an ivr greetings, sound terrible. Choppy, uneven, broken audio, etc to the caller. I have a fairly fast system as the host: dual core AMD X2, 2GB mem, running SMP 64-bit centos-4.2. Asterisk guest OS is centos-4.2 32bit. No other guests are running. Just for grins, I also installed Asterisk on a lowly 3-year old AMD Duron system (no VMWare). Using the same Asterisk config files and sound files as above, but in this case the audio playback (using the Asterisk 'background' command) sounds perfect. Anyone else notice this when using Asterisk with VMWare Ideas? winmail.dat___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk 1.2.6, VMWare, Playback/BackgroundGSM prompts
I think you might have misunderstood my point. From a horsepower perspective you are right. However, from a latency perspective, virtual machines suffer from too much skew in their timeslices. If the server is performing background tasks the impact is unperceivable. If the server is performing real-time tasks, then the impact will be dramatic (like choppy voice). In an extreme case, if you have enough horsepower combined with few other tasks/VM's on the same machine, your timeslices may be consistent enough to make real-time processing acceptable. Don't count on it however! The bottom line is that PC virtualization and real-time applications don't mix. You are better off with less horsepower without latency issues. MD -Original Message- From: Greg Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 1:19 PM To: Technical Support; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk 1.2.6, VMWare, Playback/BackgroundGSM prompts On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 13:08 -0500, Technical Support wrote: You can't reliably run a real-time application (like asterisk) on a virtual machine. You will get better performance from an old PC than a VM on a new top-end PC. Sorry MD H, I would have to say a properly configured GSX server running on Linux will run almost any OS and outperform and old PC. So you may want to go with GSX vs. Workstation if you don't just have a PC you can put * on by itself. -Greg ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on VMWare 4.5, Error Ouch ... error while writing audio data
I' m using Asterisk 1.09 on an virtual pc (VMWare 4.5) for testing. I can make calls from a Softphone to softphone, Hardphone to Softphone and so on. I can hear both RTP Streams. But when I call prompst on Asterisk I can hear nothing. RTP Stream goning from Phone to Asterisk but not the other way. I I start the PBX for console I got an error [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# Ouch ... error while writing audio data: : Broken pipe ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation sponsored by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on VMWare ESX/blade servers
Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) running Asterisk under VMWare ESX server on a blade chassis? This application will (fairly obviously) not include Zap channelsactually, it will be SIP-only. Please feel free to contact me off-list and I'll summarize for the list later. Daryl G. Jurbala NGM Tec, Inc. Tel: 215-862-1160 ext. 235 Fax: 215-862-9880 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk on VMWare ESX/blade servers
I am running on usermodelinux Itamar Reis Peixoto +55 (34) 3238 3845 e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://vps.ispbrasil.com.br --- servidores linux Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) running Asterisk under VMWare ESX server on a blade chassis? This application will (fairly obviously) not include Zap channelsactually, it will be SIP-only. Please feel free to contact me off-list and I'll summarize for the list later. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
This is a solutioin for my question? I don't want another box in my house running 24/7... Why to buy another disk as the system MUST run Win XP for some other important reasons?? Dan . - Original Message - From: Brancaleoni Matteo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare buy a 30$ hd, install linux on it and use it natively. Matteo. Il sab, 2003-07-12 alle 21:49, Dan ha scritto: Hi, I have installed Asterisk in a VM under VMWare Workstation 4.x (on WinXP). The computer is an Athlon @1GHz with 384MB RAM, 128MB allocated for RH9. Linux is fully installed (but without any X stuff). I have the latest Astrisk distribution (DL today) I have no Digium card installed on this machine. When I call Echotest, Asterisk play the message a l ittle bit choppy, but the echotest is perfect (no interruptions). The processor is used max 5% (peak) by the VMWare engine during the message playing. I have used a Cisco 7960 (G711) to call the Echotest. It seems that the GSM to G711 conversion inside VMWare virtual machine is the cause of this. It can be done something to improve this behaviour? Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Matteo Brancaleoni Espia System Administrator - IT services Website : http://www.espia.it Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
On Monday 14 July 2003 01:22, Dan wrote: This is a solutioin for my question? I don't want another box in my house running 24/7... Why to buy another disk as the system MUST run Win XP for some other important reasons?? Then run Linux natively, with Asterisk, and run Win XP within VMWare on top of Linux. -Tilghman ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
Hi, I cannot do it WinXP must have access to my home automation system (proprietary cards) Dan - Original Message - From: Tilghman Lesher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare On Monday 14 July 2003 01:22, Dan wrote: This is a solutioin for my question? I don't want another box in my house running 24/7... Why to buy another disk as the system MUST run Win XP for some other important reasons?? Then run Linux natively, with Asterisk, and run Win XP within VMWare on top of Linux. -Tilghman ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
Your machine is way underpower and underRAM, I am amazed you can even run VMWARE and a Linux guest on it. Have you try: 1. run VMWARE in Full screen windows. 2. is your Linux kernel SMP? (see VM knowledge base) 3. what about your Linux guest CPU usage? Swap usage? Windows might report 5% but its what the linux guest sees that counts. VMWARE is a very good emulation but it is still an emulation. Doing near real time codec conversion on a AMD 1GH machine with 386MB might be too much. 4. Did you do bridge networking on the guest OS? NAT will invoke additional performance penalty, and have a big effect on your SIP call. 5. What about the other cards in your system? Do they need a lot of interrupts from the PC? Check your perfmon for interrupts per second. CPU usage is only one piece of the pie. On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 23:22, Dan wrote: This is a solutioin for my question? I don't want another box in my house running 24/7... Why to buy another disk as the system MUST run Win XP for some other important reasons?? Dan . - Original Message - From: Brancaleoni Matteo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare buy a 30$ hd, install linux on it and use it natively. Matteo. Il sab, 2003-07-12 alle 21:49, Dan ha scritto: Hi, I have installed Asterisk in a VM under VMWare Workstation 4.x (on WinXP). The computer is an Athlon @1GHz with 384MB RAM, 128MB allocated for RH9. Linux is fully installed (but without any X stuff). I have the latest Astrisk distribution (DL today) I have no Digium card installed on this machine. When I call Echotest, Asterisk play the message a l ittle bit choppy, but the echotest is perfect (no interruptions). The processor is used max 5% (peak) by the VMWare engine during the message playing. I have used a Cisco 7960 (G711) to call the Echotest. It seems that the GSM to G711 conversion inside VMWare virtual machine is the cause of this. It can be done something to improve this behaviour? Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Matteo Brancaleoni Espia System Administrator - IT services Website : http://www.espia.it Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Sunny Woo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 09:15, Dan wrote: Hi, I cannot do it WinXP must have access to my home automation system (proprietary cards) Dan Frankly it amazes me you are serious about running a PBX inside vmware on top of an appalling OS and then asking if some gsm - g711 conversion can be improved cause it don't work too good within vmware. I don't know of any vendor that supports their application if it's running on an unsupported OS. So,the answers you get all say the same: either install Linux on the WinXP box and run your home automation system inside vmware. Or get one of those mini-atx boxes for $300, install Linux and Asterisk on it and you are set. They are silent, low on energy consumption and the 1GHz Via C3 should be fine for home Asterisk use. On a final note, if you do a search on google you will find many references to X10, home automation and Linux so there maybe a way out of those evil proprietary Mickeysoft products. Patrick ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
Get a cheapo system with a VIA C3 or something. Windoze + vmware destroys all the nice timing you might need to get good sound. With a VIA based system, you won't be able to support too many concurrent calls, but it's silent and cost effective (low-power etc) On Saturday 12 July 2003 21:49, Dan wrote: Hi, I have installed Asterisk in a VM under VMWare Workstation 4.x (on WinXP). The computer is an Athlon @1GHz with 384MB RAM, 128MB allocated for RH9. Linux is fully installed (but without any X stuff). I have the latest Astrisk distribution (DL today) I have no Digium card installed on this machine. When I call Echotest, Asterisk play the message a l ittle bit choppy, but the echotest is perfect (no interruptions). The processor is used max 5% (peak) by the VMWare engine during the message playing. I have used a Cisco 7960 (G711) to call the Echotest. It seems that the GSM to G711 conversion inside VMWare virtual machine is the cause of this. It can be done something to improve this behaviour? Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk, Datavaktmester ProntoTV AS - http://www.pronto.tv/ Tel: +47 9801 3356 Computers are like air conditioners. They stop working when you open Windows. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
Hi, 1. run VMWARE in Full screen windows. Tried this... same problem 2. is your Linux kernel SMP? (see VM knowledge base) I have the RH9 downloaded from Redhat site. 3. what about your Linux guest CPU usage? Swap usage? Windows might report 5% but its what the linux guest sees that counts. VMWARE is a very good emulation but it is still an emulation. Doing near real time codec conversion on a AMD 1GH machine with 386MB might be too much. I'll check this, but still I don't think that the CPU power or memory is the problem, more the interrupts and timing... 4. Did you do bridge networking on the guest OS? NAT will invoke additional performance penalty, and have a big effect on your SIP call. Bridging, using another IP address from the same subnet. 5. What about the other cards in your system? Do they need a lot of interrupts from the PC? Check your perfmon for interrupts per second. CPU usage is only one piece of the pie. I think yes, a lot of interrupts are shared between cards. I have: - 1x Firewire, 2xUSB2.0, 1xUSB1.1, PCI Soft modem, USB Modem, 4xSerial Ports, 1xgraphic card + TV Tunner (ATI All-in-Wonder 128) and a HA Box (serial based). I have succeeeded using USB under VMWare (a flash memory stick) , but still not able to use ztdummy or zaptelrtc (it uses USB for timing, not?) Thanks, Dan - Original Message - From: Sunny Woo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare Your machine is way underpower and underRAM, I am amazed you can even run VMWARE and a Linux guest on it. Have you try: 1. run VMWARE in Full screen windows. 2. is your Linux kernel SMP? (see VM knowledge base) 3. what about your Linux guest CPU usage? Swap usage? Windows might report 5% but its what the linux guest sees that counts. VMWARE is a very good emulation but it is still an emulation. Doing near real time codec conversion on a AMD 1GH machine with 386MB might be too much. 4. Did you do bridge networking on the guest OS? NAT will invoke additional performance penalty, and have a big effect on your SIP call. 5. What about the other cards in your system? Do they need a lot of interrupts from the PC? Check your perfmon for interrupts per second. CPU usage is only one piece of the pie. On Sun, 2003-07-13 at 23:22, Dan wrote: This is a solutioin for my question? I don't want another box in my house running 24/7... Why to buy another disk as the system MUST run Win XP for some other important reasons?? Dan . - Original Message - From: Brancaleoni Matteo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare buy a 30$ hd, install linux on it and use it natively. Matteo. Il sab, 2003-07-12 alle 21:49, Dan ha scritto: Hi, I have installed Asterisk in a VM under VMWare Workstation 4.x (on WinXP). The computer is an Athlon @1GHz with 384MB RAM, 128MB allocated for RH9. Linux is fully installed (but without any X stuff). I have the latest Astrisk distribution (DL today) I have no Digium card installed on this machine. When I call Echotest, Asterisk play the message a l ittle bit choppy, but the echotest is perfect (no interruptions). The processor is used max 5% (peak) by the VMWare engine during the message playing. I have used a Cisco 7960 (G711) to call the Echotest. It seems that the GSM to G711 conversion inside VMWare virtual machine is the cause of this. It can be done something to improve this behaviour? Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Matteo Brancaleoni Espia System Administrator - IT services Website : http://www.espia.it Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Sunny Woo [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
On Sat, 2003-07-12 at 14:49, Dan wrote: Hi, I have installed Asterisk in a VM under VMWare Workstation 4.x (on WinXP). The computer is an Athlon @1GHz with 384MB RAM, 128MB allocated for RH9. Linux is fully installed (but without any X stuff). If you where to look through the archive you would find that I have a similar machine running linux on bare hardware and when my xscreensaver would come on it would cause call quality to drop below usable. Of course I used a T100P so I also had an interupt timer that asterisk needed. So please understand that your _WILL_NOT_ get the performance you need from within windows. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
Dan, Your problems are all the result of your computer and your software. It's not going to work for you in your setup. Repeat: It's not going to work for you in your setup. Repeat again for increased clarity: It's not going to work for you in your setup. I really don't understand why you keep asking the question because you keep getting the same answer from every single person. For the $299 that VMWare costs, you can build a barebones machine with a small HDD that is sufficient to run asterisk. Even if you'd rather run it all on the same machine, IT IS THE ONLY WAY YOU WILL GET ASTERISK TO RUN PROPERLY. VMware Workstation is NOT DESIGNED to do this kind of job. As I said in a post before, VMWare GSX Server which is designed to do this sort of thing (but still may be insufficient for asterisk) is priced at $2500. If you bought a support contract from VMWare, they'd tell you the same thing. Software running inside of VMWare with a Win32 host is not going to give you good performance when it needs to be interactive, and Asterisk needs to be interactive a lot of the time. No matter how many performance tweaks you make to the Win32 box, you're still going to have problems with asterisk. With the amount of RAM you have, Windows WILL swap the VM's main memory to disk after a while. This will cause you insurmountable performance problems with asterisk or any service-type application running in the VM. You can look at a SIP-Proxy only solution like SEP that doesn't do transcoding or IVR and maybe get things working IF you can figure out how to force windows to never swap VMWare to disk (ie buy another 640MB of ram and force VMWare to run in the highest priority even in the background) Here are your options. Both one of these will give you a 100% working solution to your problem: 1) Return VMWare if you have already purchased it for this purpose and use the $299 to build a standalone computer suitable for the task. If you don't want to build one, you can buy one already built: http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=MC1740-1 2) Purchase a VoIP or IVR application that runs and is supported under Windows that suits your purpose. If you need all the functionality that Asterisk provides, are stuck on Windows, and already have some cisco equipment, I hear that they have a product called CallManager that might do what you need :) No amount of belief on your part is going to make your computer and VMWare do this. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare Hi, 1. run VMWARE in Full screen windows. Tried this... same problem 2. is your Linux kernel SMP? (see VM knowledge base) I have the RH9 downloaded from Redhat site. 3. what about your Linux guest CPU usage? Swap usage? Windows might report 5% but its what the linux guest sees that counts. VMWARE is a very good emulation but it is still an emulation. Doing near real time codec conversion on a AMD 1GH machine with 386MB might be too much. I'll check this, but still I don't think that the CPU power or memory is the problem, more the interrupts and timing... 4. Did you do bridge networking on the guest OS? NAT will invoke additional performance penalty, and have a big effect on your SIP call. Bridging, using another IP address from the same subnet. 5. What about the other cards in your system? Do they need a lot of interrupts from the PC? Check your perfmon for interrupts per second. CPU usage is only one piece of the pie. I think yes, a lot of interrupts are shared between cards. I have: - 1x Firewire, 2xUSB2.0, 1xUSB1.1, PCI Soft modem, USB Modem, 4xSerial Ports, 1xgraphic card + TV Tunner (ATI All-in-Wonder 128) and a HA Box (serial based). I have succeeeded using USB under VMWare (a flash memory stick) , but still not able to use ztdummy or zaptelrtc (it uses USB for timing, not?) Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
Hi John, Thanks for your effort to make me buy Call Manager..:-) Maybe a 2K$ server with a couple of 2+ GHZ Xeons and 4GB of RAM will be good enough to run just the Web interface of the Call Manager... If running a maximum of two simultaneous audio calls through Asterisk installed over VMWare is a far too big job for my computer, then you're right. In between I have found an old Compaq Armada notebook who does the job very well, but unfortunately without any possibility to add any Digium hardware to it. Thanks to all of you who have tried to answer me to my question and I consider this issue closed. Dan - Original Message - From: John Laur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 5:49 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare Dan, Your problems are all the result of your computer and your software. It's not going to work for you in your setup. Repeat: It's not going to work for you in your setup. Repeat again for increased clarity: It's not going to work for you in your setup. I really don't understand why you keep asking the question because you keep getting the same answer from every single person. For the $299 that VMWare costs, you can build a barebones machine with a small HDD that is sufficient to run asterisk. Even if you'd rather run it all on the same machine, IT IS THE ONLY WAY YOU WILL GET ASTERISK TO RUN PROPERLY. VMware Workstation is NOT DESIGNED to do this kind of job. As I said in a post before, VMWare GSX Server which is designed to do this sort of thing (but still may be insufficient for asterisk) is priced at $2500. If you bought a support contract from VMWare, they'd tell you the same thing. Software running inside of VMWare with a Win32 host is not going to give you good performance when it needs to be interactive, and Asterisk needs to be interactive a lot of the time. No matter how many performance tweaks you make to the Win32 box, you're still going to have problems with asterisk. With the amount of RAM you have, Windows WILL swap the VM's main memory to disk after a while. This will cause you insurmountable performance problems with asterisk or any service-type application running in the VM. You can look at a SIP-Proxy only solution like SEP that doesn't do transcoding or IVR and maybe get things working IF you can figure out how to force windows to never swap VMWare to disk (ie buy another 640MB of ram and force VMWare to run in the highest priority even in the background) Here are your options. Both one of these will give you a 100% working solution to your problem: 1) Return VMWare if you have already purchased it for this purpose and use the $299 to build a standalone computer suitable for the task. If you don't want to build one, you can buy one already built: http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=MC1740-1 2) Purchase a VoIP or IVR application that runs and is supported under Windows that suits your purpose. If you need all the functionality that Asterisk provides, are stuck on Windows, and already have some cisco equipment, I hear that they have a product called CallManager that might do what you need :) No amount of belief on your part is going to make your computer and VMWare do this. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare Hi, 1. run VMWARE in Full screen windows. Tried this... same problem 2. is your Linux kernel SMP? (see VM knowledge base) I have the RH9 downloaded from Redhat site. 3. what about your Linux guest CPU usage? Swap usage? Windows might report 5% but its what the linux guest sees that counts. VMWARE is a very good emulation but it is still an emulation. Doing near real time codec conversion on a AMD 1GH machine with 386MB might be too much. I'll check this, but still I don't think that the CPU power or memory is the problem, more the interrupts and timing... 4. Did you do bridge networking on the guest OS? NAT will invoke additional performance penalty, and have a big effect on your SIP call. Bridging, using another IP address from the same subnet. 5. What about the other cards in your system? Do they need a lot of interrupts from the PC? Check your perfmon for interrupts per second. CPU usage is only one piece of the pie. I think yes, a lot of interrupts are shared between cards. I have: - 1x Firewire, 2xUSB2.0, 1xUSB1.1, PCI Soft modem, USB Modem, 4xSerial Ports, 1xgraphic card + TV Tunner (ATI All-in-Wonder 128) and a HA Box (serial based). I have succeeeded using USB under VMWare (a flash memory stick) , but still not able to use ztdummy or zaptelrtc (it uses USB for timing, not?) Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
Agreed. Do not try and run Asterisk within VMWare. I use VMWare day in and day out but VMWare (even GSX) is not the place to be running Asterisk. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare Hi John, Thanks for your effort to make me buy Call Manager..:-) Maybe a 2K$ server with a couple of 2+ GHZ Xeons and 4GB of RAM will be good enough to run just the Web interface of the Call Manager... If running a maximum of two simultaneous audio calls through Asterisk installed over VMWare is a far too big job for my computer, then you're right. In between I have found an old Compaq Armada notebook who does the job very well, but unfortunately without any possibility to add any Digium hardware to it. Thanks to all of you who have tried to answer me to my question and I consider this issue closed. Dan - Original Message - From: John Laur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 5:49 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare Dan, Your problems are all the result of your computer and your software. It's not going to work for you in your setup. Repeat: It's not going to work for you in your setup. Repeat again for increased clarity: It's not going to work for you in your setup. I really don't understand why you keep asking the question because you keep getting the same answer from every single person. For the $299 that VMWare costs, you can build a barebones machine with a small HDD that is sufficient to run asterisk. Even if you'd rather run it all on the same machine, IT IS THE ONLY WAY YOU WILL GET ASTERISK TO RUN PROPERLY. VMware Workstation is NOT DESIGNED to do this kind of job. As I said in a post before, VMWare GSX Server which is designed to do this sort of thing (but still may be insufficient for asterisk) is priced at $2500. If you bought a support contract from VMWare, they'd tell you the same thing. Software running inside of VMWare with a Win32 host is not going to give you good performance when it needs to be interactive, and Asterisk needs to be interactive a lot of the time. No matter how many performance tweaks you make to the Win32 box, you're still going to have problems with asterisk. With the amount of RAM you have, Windows WILL swap the VM's main memory to disk after a while. This will cause you insurmountable performance problems with asterisk or any service-type application running in the VM. You can look at a SIP-Proxy only solution like SEP that doesn't do transcoding or IVR and maybe get things working IF you can figure out how to force windows to never swap VMWare to disk (ie buy another 640MB of ram and force VMWare to run in the highest priority even in the background) Here are your options. Both one of these will give you a 100% working solution to your problem: 1) Return VMWare if you have already purchased it for this purpose and use the $299 to build a standalone computer suitable for the task. If you don't want to build one, you can buy one already built: http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=MC1740-1 2) Purchase a VoIP or IVR application that runs and is supported under Windows that suits your purpose. If you need all the functionality that Asterisk provides, are stuck on Windows, and already have some cisco equipment, I hear that they have a product called CallManager that might do what you need :) No amount of belief on your part is going to make your computer and VMWare do this. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare Hi, 1. run VMWARE in Full screen windows. Tried this... same problem 2. is your Linux kernel SMP? (see VM knowledge base) I have the RH9 downloaded from Redhat site. 3. what about your Linux guest CPU usage? Swap usage? Windows might report 5% but its what the linux guest sees that counts. VMWARE is a very good emulation but it is still an emulation. Doing near real time codec conversion on a AMD 1GH machine with 386MB might be too much. I'll check this, but still I don't think that the CPU power or memory is the problem, more the interrupts and timing... 4. Did you do bridge networking on the guest OS? NAT will invoke additional performance penalty, and have a big effect on your SIP call. Bridging, using another IP address from the same subnet. 5. What about the other cards in your system? Do they need a lot of interrupts from the PC? Check your perfmon for interrupts per second. CPU usage is only one piece of the pie. I think yes
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
agreed here too. You cannot hook into real hardware interrupts for timing in a VM. A cheap small pentium can run asterisk (I have a dual 200MHz Pentium Pro), but as soon as you add the hardware emulation layer of any VM real/pseudo realtime needs are not met. Even using the USB digium device, the VM cannot handle isosyncronos IO. quote who=Erik Anderson Agreed. Do not try and run Asterisk within VMWare. I use VMWare day in and day out but VMWare (even GSX) is not the place to be running Asterisk. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dan Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare Hi John, Thanks for your effort to make me buy Call Manager..:-) Maybe a 2K$ server with a couple of 2+ GHZ Xeons and 4GB of RAM will be good enough to run just the Web interface of the Call Manager... If running a maximum of two simultaneous audio calls through Asterisk installed over VMWare is a far too big job for my computer, then you're right. In between I have found an old Compaq Armada notebook who does the job very well, but unfortunately without any possibility to add any Digium hardware to it. Thanks to all of you who have tried to answer me to my question and I consider this issue closed. Dan - Original Message - From: John Laur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 5:49 PM Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare Dan, Your problems are all the result of your computer and your software. It's not going to work for you in your setup. Repeat: It's not going to work for you in your setup. Repeat again for increased clarity: It's not going to work for you in your setup. I really don't understand why you keep asking the question because you keep getting the same answer from every single person. For the $299 that VMWare costs, you can build a barebones machine with a small HDD that is sufficient to run asterisk. Even if you'd rather run it all on the same machine, IT IS THE ONLY WAY YOU WILL GET ASTERISK TO RUN PROPERLY. VMware Workstation is NOT DESIGNED to do this kind of job. As I said in a post before, VMWare GSX Server which is designed to do this sort of thing (but still may be insufficient for asterisk) is priced at $2500. If you bought a support contract from VMWare, they'd tell you the same thing. Software running inside of VMWare with a Win32 host is not going to give you good performance when it needs to be interactive, and Asterisk needs to be interactive a lot of the time. No matter how many performance tweaks you make to the Win32 box, you're still going to have problems with asterisk. With the amount of RAM you have, Windows WILL swap the VM's main memory to disk after a while. This will cause you insurmountable performance problems with asterisk or any service-type application running in the VM. You can look at a SIP-Proxy only solution like SEP that doesn't do transcoding or IVR and maybe get things working IF you can figure out how to force windows to never swap VMWare to disk (ie buy another 640MB of ram and force VMWare to run in the highest priority even in the background) Here are your options. Both one of these will give you a 100% working solution to your problem: 1) Return VMWare if you have already purchased it for this purpose and use the $299 to build a standalone computer suitable for the task. If you don't want to build one, you can buy one already built: http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=MC1740-1 2) Purchase a VoIP or IVR application that runs and is supported under Windows that suits your purpose. If you need all the functionality that Asterisk provides, are stuck on Windows, and already have some cisco equipment, I hear that they have a product called CallManager that might do what you need :) No amount of belief on your part is going to make your computer and VMWare do this. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare Hi, 1. run VMWARE in Full screen windows. Tried this... same problem 2. is your Linux kernel SMP? (see VM knowledge base) I have the RH9 downloaded from Redhat site. 3. what about your Linux guest CPU usage? Swap usage? Windows might report 5% but its what the linux guest sees that counts. VMWARE is a very good emulation but it is still an emulation. Doing near real time codec conversion on a AMD 1GH machine with 386MB might be too much. I'll check this, but still I don't think that the CPU power or memory is the problem, more the interrupts and timing... 4. Did you do bridge networking
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
On Sat, 2003-07-12 at 14:49, Dan wrote: Hi, I have installed Asterisk in a VM under VMWare Workstation 4.x (on WinXP). The computer is an Athlon @1GHz with 384MB RAM, 128MB allocated for RH9. Linux is fully installed (but without any X stuff). I have the latest Astrisk distribution (DL today) I have no Digium card installed on this machine. When I call Echotest, Asterisk play the message a l ittle bit choppy, but the echotest is perfect (no interruptions). The processor is used max 5% (peak) by the VMWare engine during the message playing. I have used a Cisco 7960 (G711) to call the Echotest. It seems that the GSM to G711 conversion inside VMWare virtual machine is the cause of this. It can be done something to improve this behaviour? Echo test doesn't do any codec conversions. You problem is probably context switching problems. Windows is a heavy front end, and you add that Windows is not a realtime OS. This means applications run on in vmware, and on windows is a long way from realtime no matter what you think about your processor. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
buy a 30$ hd, install linux on it and use it natively. Matteo. Il sab, 2003-07-12 alle 21:49, Dan ha scritto: Hi, I have installed Asterisk in a VM under VMWare Workstation 4.x (on WinXP). The computer is an Athlon @1GHz with 384MB RAM, 128MB allocated for RH9. Linux is fully installed (but without any X stuff). I have the latest Astrisk distribution (DL today) I have no Digium card installed on this machine. When I call Echotest, Asterisk play the message a l ittle bit choppy, but the echotest is perfect (no interruptions). The processor is used max 5% (peak) by the VMWare engine during the message playing. I have used a Cisco 7960 (G711) to call the Echotest. It seems that the GSM to G711 conversion inside VMWare virtual machine is the cause of this. It can be done something to improve this behaviour? Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Matteo Brancaleoni Espia System Administrator - IT services Website : http://www.espia.it Email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
Hi, I have installed Asterisk in a VM under VMWare Workstation 4.x (on WinXP). The computer is an Athlon @1GHz with 384MB RAM, 128MB allocated for RH9. Linux is fully installed (but without any X stuff). I have the latest Astrisk distribution (DL today) I have no Digium card installed on this machine. When I call Echotest, Asterisk play the message a l ittle bit choppy, but the echotest is perfect (no interruptions). The processor is used max 5% (peak) by the VMWare engine during the message playing. I have used a Cisco 7960 (G711) to call the Echotest. It seems that the GSM to G711 conversion inside VMWare virtual machine is the cause of this. It can be done something to improve this behaviour? Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
I use a similar asterisk setup when my T100P card is being used outside the home. I ran it on a 1ghz athlon that was shared as my workstation, but all linux. When my screen saver started, the audio quality dropped below usable. So obviously my system was idle if the screen saver started. SO as you can see you most likely will not get good results under vmware even if you are on a pretty hefty machine. On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 01:43, Dan wrote: Hi Gary, This possibility is excluded because the Home Automation framework runing on WinXP now needs to have direct access to a couple of proprietary hardware devices. I think to have a home Asterisk box on the same computer without any specific hardware, just to be able to use a couple of SIP phones (Cisco 7960 and ATA 186) without GSM support. The PSTN connection is made at the office, through another Asterisk box connected to the home one using IAX and GSM as codec. BR, Dan - Original Message - From: Gary Gapinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare On Monday 07 July 2003 15:26, Dan wrote: The reason I ask this is because I have a Win2K PC running 24/7 which has enough power left, but if I cannot use any of the Digium hardware from inside VMWare then is useless. If you have not yet purchased the VMware license, run Linux, Asterisk, VMware _for Linux_, and W2K within VMware (with the caveat that special hardware will likely not be supported within VMs). Even if you have already purchased VMware for Microsoft Windows (the MS and Linux licenses are not interchangeable), contact VMware regarding a possible exchange. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
Hi, There is any experience using Asterisk with VMWare? I think about installing a virtual linux box over VMWare and then Asterisk over it. Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 11:48, WipeOut . wrote: If you want to use it for IP only it __MAY__ work but probably not all that well unless you have a really strong processor.. VMWare abstracts the hardware layer you will not be able to get it to communicate fully with any cards in order to connect phone lines.. You forgot to mention that as an application running in userland it is possible to stall and hang while kernel or other less nice applications hog the system. I use vmware on a regular basis and have seen times where system speed inside of vmware is dependent on other factors like mouse movement to force vmware to receive a few more time slices. Hi, There is any experience using Asterisk with VMWare? I think about installing a virtual linux box over VMWare and then Asterisk over it. Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
On Monday 07 July 2003 12:07, Dan wrote: Hi, There is any experience using Asterisk with VMWare? I think about installing a virtual linux box over VMWare and then Asterisk over it. I use it with VMware, but Asterisk runs on the host OS, not in the VM. You should have no problem running Asterisk in a VM, but you would be unable to use any Digium or similar hardware, as VMware does not expose such devices to a VM. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
Hi, The reason I ask this is because I have a Win2K PC running 24/7 which has enough power left, but if I cannot use any of the Digium hardware from inside VMWare then is useless. Thank you, Dan - Original Message - From: Gary Gapinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare On Monday 07 July 2003 12:07, Dan wrote: Hi, There is any experience using Asterisk with VMWare? I think about installing a virtual linux box over VMWare and then Asterisk over it. I use it with VMware, but Asterisk runs on the host OS, not in the VM. You should have no problem running Asterisk in a VM, but you would be unable to use any Digium or similar hardware, as VMware does not expose such devices to a VM. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
On Monday 07 July 2003 15:26, Dan wrote: The reason I ask this is because I have a Win2K PC running 24/7 which has enough power left, but if I cannot use any of the Digium hardware from inside VMWare then is useless. If you have not yet purchased the VMware license, run Linux, Asterisk, VMware _for Linux_, and W2K within VMware (with the caveat that special hardware will likely not be supported within VMs). Even if you have already purchased VMware for Microsoft Windows (the MS and Linux licenses are not interchangeable), contact VMware regarding a possible exchange. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
Hi Steven, The PC is behind a NAT firewall/router, so this is not a real issue for the moment. It is online 24/7 for allmost 2 years now without any major problem. It hosts my Home Automation engine and it must remain powered on full time. I do not intend to install X just for VMWare. Thanks, Dan - Original Message - From: Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 11:12 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 14:26, Dan wrote: Hi, The reason I ask this is because I have a Win2K PC running 24/7 which has enough power left, but if I cannot use any of the Digium hardware from inside VMWare then is useless. You can not have a win2k PC running 24/7 without being highly vulnerable to exploits. I won't even get into the even after patched it is still vulnerable argument. You would be better off running win2k under vmware, but then you would have to have X ontop of your phone system and that isn't good either. - Original Message - From: Gary Gapinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare On Monday 07 July 2003 12:07, Dan wrote: Hi, There is any experience using Asterisk with VMWare? I think about installing a virtual linux box over VMWare and then Asterisk over it. I use it with VMware, but Asterisk runs on the host OS, not in the VM. You should have no problem running Asterisk in a VM, but you would be unable to use any Digium or similar hardware, as VMware does not expose such devices to a VM. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Asterisk and VMWare
Hi Dan, For a totally unrelated reason I did this today. * runs fine here under VMware, athough I haven't stressed it at all. Andy *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 07/07/2003 at 19:07 Dan wrote: Hi, There is any experience using Asterisk with VMWare? I think about installing a virtual linux box over VMWare and then Asterisk over it. Thanks, Dan ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
