RE: [asterisk-users] wifi sip phone real-world experiences?
Hi the list, I am using Kirk DECT/SIP 600V3 every day. This system run very very well behind an Asterisk, with transfert feature, caller ID display and so... Seen as an IP-Phone running a separate SIP account for each handset. Consider the 600V3 server as a mediagateway converting DECT to SIP. I am Kirk certified (very interesting training at Kirk factory in Denmark) :-) Best Regards, Francois BERGERET, France. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] wifi sip phone real-world experiences?
Alex Crow wrote: Alban, Thanks! Where on earth did you source this? I can't seen to find hide nor hair of it here in the UK :( Alex On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 16:01 +0200, Alban wrote: Hi, I've tested several wifi phone (UtStarcom, Hitachi 3000 and 5000, and one Siemens). The Siemens is the best one, for a really cheaper price than hitachi. And was the only one which roams well between AP (same SSID, same channel) with WPA. Battery is still a problem, especially if the coverture is not very good everywhere. But that was the best one I could test... The reference is : Gigaset SL75 WLAN. Hope it helps Alban It's not available in the UK, Siemens pulled the UK varient of the product due to lack of demand. They'll only release something in a country if companies place orders for 1000's of the product. There simply isn't the demand for Wifi phones in the UK to sell them in a reasonable amount of time. I have one of them in my desk drawer which I've had for a good while, it's pretty good but as someone else said, not as good as DECT. cheers, Paul. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] wifi sip phone real-world experiences?
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 3:25 am, F6HQZ wrote: I am using Kirk DECT/SIP 600V3 every day. This system run very very well behind an Asterisk, with transfert feature, caller ID display and so... Seen as an IP-Phone running a separate SIP account for each handset. Consider the 600V3 server as a mediagateway converting DECT to SIP. I am Kirk certified (very interesting training at Kirk factory in Denmark) Thank you for posting; tell me, with these Kirk phones, is there any kind of phone book or contact list for speed dials that I can set up? Is it a central list, or does each phone have their own? -A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] wifi sip phone real-world experiences?
On 4 Jun 2007, at 01:00, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Sunday 03 June 2007 4:30 pm, Alex Crow wrote: No frills, specs look good, price seems excellent! http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=369519 That's a terrible phone. I've tried them. the screen is pretty much useless, the buttons are *TINY*, the battery life horrible, and the ringtones gimmicky. I haven't tried WEP or WPA on these things, but the phones I've gotten rid of long ago due to their problems. -A. If you can face the configuration hell, the Nokia e60 should do what you want Tim. Tim Panton www.mexuar.net www.westhawk.co.uk/ ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] wifi sip phone real-world experiences?
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Sunday 03 June 2007 4:30 pm, Alex Crow wrote: No frills, specs look good, price seems excellent! http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=369519 That's a terrible phone. I've tried them. the screen is pretty much useless, the buttons are *TINY*, the battery life horrible, and the ringtones gimmicky. I have to disagree on at least one point here - Battery life. I don't think 3 or 4 days standby and several hours of talk time makes for a horrible battery life. The F1000G has other faillings, but battery life isn't one of them! I haven't tried WEP or WPA on these things, but the phones I've gotten rid of long ago due to their problems. Mine works with both WEP and WPA. It just occasionally won't re-attach to an access point (iwthout rebooting) and won't roam between access points at all. I think for the cost (and you can get them cheaper than from Scan!) they're not bad, but still in the experimental/toy category than something I'd deploy to clients. Gordon ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] wifi sip phone real-world experiences?
On Monday 04 June 2007 8:24 am, Bryan Laird wrote: - Physically the phone feels very light and cheap, that if you were to drop it that it might not survive very many of them. The buttons feel more like a toy than anything else but once you get beyond that it works. How are they for big hands? I'll have to do some checking around to see if I can find a rubber case for it or something, it's all concrete floors here. - Address book storage is ok the interface from the phone is fairly standard for what you would see in a cell phone and adding entries isn't really all that horrid of a task. You can also add entries via the web interface which does make for an easier way to add several entries but the lack of anything resembling a 'sync' function could be considered bothersome. Bugger. Last thing, one neat thing about the wip300 if you are adventurous is the fact that the firmware is under GPL... so if you really felt like it you could probably change the behavior of the phone. This I was not aware of. I will certainly evaluate this phone and it's bigger brother. Anyway sorry for the long message but I felt like chiming in on this. All in all I don't think it's a horrible phone I do however think it's over priced for what it is but not enough demand on this type of device is always going to keep the price up in the air. Your message is *exactly* the kind of reply I was hoping to get. Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a long response. I truly appreciate it. -A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] wifi sip phone real-world experiences?
Right now I can only speak to the WIP300 but I've been evaluating it for about a week now and really I have to say I'm fairly pleased. It works it works //well// but that's not to say it's perfect. - Physically the phone feels very light and cheap, that if you were to drop it that it might not survive very many of them. The buttons feel more like a toy than anything else but once you get beyond that it works. - Address book storage is ok the interface from the phone is fairly standard for what you would see in a cell phone and adding entries isn't really all that horrid of a task. You can also add entries via the web interface which does make for an easier way to add several entries but the lack of anything resembling a 'sync' function could be considered bothersome. - Call quality, so far so good however, I do believe the unit has a bit of an over touchy MIC.. the quality is clear but but it seems to pick up background noise and white noise pretty good. That's not to say that it will drown out your voice but you will hear the background if your in a server or climate controlled room. - The CPU on the phone does appear to be a bit underpowered. Two devices right next to each-other one a PC soft-phone and one the WIP 300 using the 'qualify' feature in asterisk you can clearly see a different in latency and how long it takes for the wip300 to process some sip transactions. This doesn't effect call quality but it is something worth noting if I'm taking the time to write this out. - Firmware: when you get the phone if it's running anything 1.0.9 upgrade to the latest from linksys, there are a slew of bugs that existing the factory shipping version that will likely make you think you really got cheated if you don't upgrade the firmware. Although make a note of the earlier thread upgrading has some bugs too, and don't try it form a mac. - I haven't tried the email function, as lack of intelligent keying (adaptive text for word completion) to me makes this a worthless feature. - Wireless, actually after changing to the latest version I've been fairly happy with the range coverage and life of the unit. You can load in multiple profiles for which AP you are talking to and the phone will register with that profile. You can associate different AP's with different SIP accounts which could be handy for traveling offices. The documentation doesn't mention it but you can create a profile that's a wild-card which will cause the phone to register to any open AP it finds. This I've found works fairly well as well as I can go from the east side to the west side of the building and the unit will switch AP's without much trouble, but do expect a dropped call in the process. If you have a mesh setup then the drop shouldn't happen but that's another story all together. I haven't played with the various encryption options so far as I've only been evaluating based on open access points. My thought is that likely the encryption may show more with the CPU load depending on how the unit manages this with it's chip set but even at that I don't think it will cause any red alarms. I could be wrong though. Last thing, one neat thing about the wip300 if you are adventurous is the fact that the firmware is under GPL... so if you really felt like it you could probably change the behavior of the phone. Anyway sorry for the long message but I felt like chiming in on this. All in all I don't think it's a horrible phone I do however think it's over priced for what it is but not enough demand on this type of device is always going to keep the price up in the air. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bryan Laird, Sr. Manager CM Operations -+- Cablemodems are the gateway to the Internet. The Internet is a gateway to some things that are better left un-seen. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] wifi sip phone real-world experiences?
On Jun 4, 2007, at 8:31 AM, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Monday 04 June 2007 8:24 am, Bryan Laird wrote: - Physically the phone feels very light and cheap, that if you were to drop it that it might not survive very many of them. The buttons feel more like a toy than anything else but once you get beyond that it works. How are they for big hands? I'll have to do some checking around to see if I can find a rubber case for it or something, it's all concrete floors here. Considering I too have the sausage finger problem... the buttons are incredibly similar to what you find on the Nokia candy bar style phones. - Address book storage is ok the interface from the phone is fairly standard for what you would see in a cell phone and adding entries isn't really all that horrid of a task. You can also add entries via the web interface which does make for an easier way to add several entries but the lack of anything resembling a 'sync' function could be considered bothersome. Bugger. Last thing, one neat thing about the wip300 if you are adventurous is the fact that the firmware is under GPL... so if you really felt like it you could probably change the behavior of the phone. This I was not aware of. I will certainly evaluate this phone and it's bigger brother. Anyway sorry for the long message but I felt like chiming in on this. All in all I don't think it's a horrible phone I do however think it's over priced for what it is but not enough demand on this type of device is always going to keep the price up in the air. Your message is *exactly* the kind of reply I was hoping to get. Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a long response. I truly appreciate it. -A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bryan Laird, Sr. Manager CM Operations -+- Cablemodems are the gateway to the Internet. The Internet is a gateway to some things that are better left un-seen. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] wifi sip phone real-world experiences?
Gordon Henderson wrote: On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Sunday 03 June 2007 4:30 pm, Alex Crow wrote: No frills, specs look good, price seems excellent! http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=369519 That's a terrible phone. I've tried them. the screen is pretty much useless, the buttons are *TINY*, the battery life horrible, and the ringtones gimmicky. I have to disagree on at least one point here - Battery life. I don't think 3 or 4 days standby and several hours of talk time makes for a horrible battery life. The F1000G has other faillings, but battery life isn't one of them! If you compare this battery life to a decent DECT phone, it's still miserable. I'm used to these dect phones : http://www.bang-olufsen.com/UserFiles/File/Products/Technical%20Specifications/BeoCom6000_en.pdf I haven't tried WEP or WPA on these things, but the phones I've gotten rid of long ago due to their problems. Mine works with both WEP and WPA. It just occasionally won't re-attach to an access point (iwthout rebooting) and won't roam between access points at all. I think for the cost (and you can get them cheaper than from Scan!) they're not bad, but still in the experimental/toy category than something I'd deploy to clients. Gordon ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] wifi sip phone real-world experiences?
Hi, I've tested several wifi phone (UtStarcom, Hitachi 3000 and 5000, and one Siemens). The Siemens is the best one, for a really cheaper price than hitachi. And was the only one which roams well between AP (same SSID, same channel) with WPA. Battery is still a problem, especially if the coverture is not very good everywhere. But that was the best one I could test... The reference is : Gigaset SL75 WLAN. Hope it helps Alban Le Lundi 4 Juin 2007 14:53, Bryan Laird a écrit : On Jun 4, 2007, at 8:31 AM, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Monday 04 June 2007 8:24 am, Bryan Laird wrote: - Physically the phone feels very light and cheap, that if you were to drop it that it might not survive very many of them. The buttons feel more like a toy than anything else but once you get beyond that it works. How are they for big hands? I'll have to do some checking around to see if I can find a rubber case for it or something, it's all concrete floors here. Considering I too have the sausage finger problem... the buttons are incredibly similar to what you find on the Nokia candy bar style phones. - Address book storage is ok the interface from the phone is fairly standard for what you would see in a cell phone and adding entries isn't really all that horrid of a task. You can also add entries via the web interface which does make for an easier way to add several entries but the lack of anything resembling a 'sync' function could be considered bothersome. Bugger. Last thing, one neat thing about the wip300 if you are adventurous is the fact that the firmware is under GPL... so if you really felt like it you could probably change the behavior of the phone. This I was not aware of. I will certainly evaluate this phone and it's bigger brother. Anyway sorry for the long message but I felt like chiming in on this. All in all I don't think it's a horrible phone I do however think it's over priced for what it is but not enough demand on this type of device is always going to keep the price up in the air. Your message is *exactly* the kind of reply I was hoping to get. Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a long response. I truly appreciate it. -A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bryan Laird, Sr. Manager CM Operations -+- Cablemodems are the gateway to the Internet. The Internet is a gateway to some things that are better left un-seen. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] wifi sip phone real-world experiences?
Zoa wrote: Gordon Henderson wrote: On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Sunday 03 June 2007 4:30 pm, Alex Crow wrote: No frills, specs look good, price seems excellent! http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=369519 That's a terrible phone. I've tried them. the screen is pretty much useless, the buttons are *TINY*, the battery life horrible, and the ringtones gimmicky. I have to disagree on at least one point here - Battery life. I don't think 3 or 4 days standby and several hours of talk time makes for a horrible battery life. The F1000G has other faillings, but battery life isn't one of them! If you compare this battery life to a decent DECT phone, it's still miserable. I'm used to these dect phones : http://www.bang-olufsen.com/UserFiles/File/Products/Technical%20Specifications/BeoCom6000_en.pdf [snip] It's not really a fair comparison though, DECT was designed from the offset to be used with portable phones on low-power batteries. Wifi was never designed for this so it's comparatively power hungry. The F1000G in my opinion is still pretty good battery life for a wifi phone, I've seen some that will not last a day in standby. Looking at the OP's requirements list in the first post, there is nothing currently on the market which will cover anything like all those features (and do it well!). I've currently got several Nokia Wifi/GSM phones sat on my desk, they are difficult to configure and very quirky, frankly not even good enough to be considered a techie's toy. I am told 3rd party softphone clients such as TruPhone work a lot better than the built-in SIP client but I'm yet to test any of these. The main problem is they have a habit of constantly losing connection with my access points. Even the F1000G and F3000 phones I have here don't do that. I'm yet to be convinced that wifi in it's current state is any use for telephony at all. DECT works so much better, it just needs someone to make a fully functioning SIP DECT phone. The Siemens is good but they need to work on more SIP functions, although proper transfers should be possible soon. I also have some Philips DECT SIP equipment next to my desk to look at when I've got a chance! cheers, Paul. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] wifi sip phone real-world experiences?
On Monday 04 June 2007 10:28 am, Paul Hayes wrote: Looking at the OP's requirements list in the first post, there is nothing currently on the market which will cover anything like all those features (and do it well!). I've got the WIP300 and 330 on my list, with the latter being the more likely candidate, as I can throw up custom apps once I figure out how it's done. :-) I like the idea of a wifi phone running Linux though, so both of these options will have to be investigated. but I'm yet to test any of these. The main problem is they have a habit of constantly losing connection with my access points. Even the F1000G and F3000 phones I have here don't do that. My F1000G phones *CONSTANTLY* lost connection with my WRT54, and it had nothing to do with signal strength, as the access point was less than 10 feet away from my desk, with nothing between to interfere. :-( I'm yet to be convinced that wifi in it's current state is any use for telephony at all. DECT works so much better, it just needs someone to make a fully functioning SIP DECT phone. The Siemens is good but they need to work on more SIP functions, although proper transfers should be possible soon. I am also slowly coming to this conclusion. Polycom recently acquired SpectraLink, who've got many years in the wireless phone business. They've got both Wifi and DECT offerings, but nothing with bluetooth, so the search continues. :-) -A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] wifi sip phone real-world experiences?
Alban, Thanks! Where on earth did you source this? I can't seen to find hide nor hair of it here in the UK :( Alex On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 16:01 +0200, Alban wrote: Hi, I've tested several wifi phone (UtStarcom, Hitachi 3000 and 5000, and one Siemens). The Siemens is the best one, for a really cheaper price than hitachi. And was the only one which roams well between AP (same SSID, same channel) with WPA. Battery is still a problem, especially if the coverture is not very good everywhere. But that was the best one I could test... The reference is : Gigaset SL75 WLAN. Hope it helps Alban Le Lundi 4 Juin 2007 14:53, Bryan Laird a écrit : On Jun 4, 2007, at 8:31 AM, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Monday 04 June 2007 8:24 am, Bryan Laird wrote: - Physically the phone feels very light and cheap, that if you were to drop it that it might not survive very many of them. The buttons feel more like a toy than anything else but once you get beyond that it works. How are they for big hands? I'll have to do some checking around to see if I can find a rubber case for it or something, it's all concrete floors here. Considering I too have the sausage finger problem... the buttons are incredibly similar to what you find on the Nokia candy bar style phones. - Address book storage is ok the interface from the phone is fairly standard for what you would see in a cell phone and adding entries isn't really all that horrid of a task. You can also add entries via the web interface which does make for an easier way to add several entries but the lack of anything resembling a 'sync' function could be considered bothersome. Bugger. Last thing, one neat thing about the wip300 if you are adventurous is the fact that the firmware is under GPL... so if you really felt like it you could probably change the behavior of the phone. This I was not aware of. I will certainly evaluate this phone and it's bigger brother. Anyway sorry for the long message but I felt like chiming in on this. All in all I don't think it's a horrible phone I do however think it's over priced for what it is but not enough demand on this type of device is always going to keep the price up in the air. Your message is *exactly* the kind of reply I was hoping to get. Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a long response. I truly appreciate it. -A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bryan Laird, Sr. Manager CM Operations -+- Cablemodems are the gateway to the Internet. The Internet is a gateway to some things that are better left un-seen. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] wifi sip phone real-world experiences?
We have it (in belgium) http://www.voipsolutions.be/phones/dect-sip-phones/siemens-gigaset-sl75-wlan-voip-phone.html I still think DECT is better though :) Zoa Alex Crow wrote: Alban, Thanks! Where on earth did you source this? I can't seen to find hide nor hair of it here in the UK :( Alex On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 16:01 +0200, Alban wrote: Hi, I've tested several wifi phone (UtStarcom, Hitachi 3000 and 5000, and one Siemens). The Siemens is the best one, for a really cheaper price than hitachi. And was the only one which roams well between AP (same SSID, same channel) with WPA. Battery is still a problem, especially if the coverture is not very good everywhere. But that was the best one I could test... The reference is : Gigaset SL75 WLAN. Hope it helps Alban Le Lundi 4 Juin 2007 14:53, Bryan Laird a écrit : On Jun 4, 2007, at 8:31 AM, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Monday 04 June 2007 8:24 am, Bryan Laird wrote: - Physically the phone feels very light and cheap, that if you were to drop it that it might not survive very many of them. The buttons feel more like a toy than anything else but once you get beyond that it works. How are they for big hands? I'll have to do some checking around to see if I can find a rubber case for it or something, it's all concrete floors here. Considering I too have the sausage finger problem... the buttons are incredibly similar to what you find on the Nokia candy bar style phones. - Address book storage is ok the interface from the phone is fairly standard for what you would see in a cell phone and adding entries isn't really all that horrid of a task. You can also add entries via the web interface which does make for an easier way to add several entries but the lack of anything resembling a 'sync' function could be considered bothersome. Bugger. Last thing, one neat thing about the wip300 if you are adventurous is the fact that the firmware is under GPL... so if you really felt like it you could probably change the behavior of the phone. This I was not aware of. I will certainly evaluate this phone and it's bigger brother. Anyway sorry for the long message but I felt like chiming in on this. All in all I don't think it's a horrible phone I do however think it's over priced for what it is but not enough demand on this type of device is always going to keep the price up in the air. Your message is *exactly* the kind of reply I was hoping to get. Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a long response. I truly appreciate it. -A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bryan Laird, Sr. Manager CM Operations -+- Cablemodems are the gateway to the Internet. The Internet is a gateway to some things that are better left un-seen. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] wifi sip phone real-world experiences?
Alex, I bought them at Beronet (shop.beronet.com), a german company. I'm located in France, no problem for them to send them here... Alban Le Lundi 4 Juin 2007 17:29, Alex Crow a écrit : Alban, Thanks! Where on earth did you source this? I can't seen to find hide nor hair of it here in the UK :( Alex On Mon, 2007-06-04 at 16:01 +0200, Alban wrote: Hi, I've tested several wifi phone (UtStarcom, Hitachi 3000 and 5000, and one Siemens). The Siemens is the best one, for a really cheaper price than hitachi. And was the only one which roams well between AP (same SSID, same channel) with WPA. Battery is still a problem, especially if the coverture is not very good everywhere. But that was the best one I could test... The reference is : Gigaset SL75 WLAN. Hope it helps Alban Le Lundi 4 Juin 2007 14:53, Bryan Laird a écrit : On Jun 4, 2007, at 8:31 AM, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On Monday 04 June 2007 8:24 am, Bryan Laird wrote: - Physically the phone feels very light and cheap, that if you were to drop it that it might not survive very many of them. The buttons feel more like a toy than anything else but once you get beyond that it works. How are they for big hands? I'll have to do some checking around to see if I can find a rubber case for it or something, it's all concrete floors here. Considering I too have the sausage finger problem... the buttons are incredibly similar to what you find on the Nokia candy bar style phones. - Address book storage is ok the interface from the phone is fairly standard for what you would see in a cell phone and adding entries isn't really all that horrid of a task. You can also add entries via the web interface which does make for an easier way to add several entries but the lack of anything resembling a 'sync' function could be considered bothersome. Bugger. Last thing, one neat thing about the wip300 if you are adventurous is the fact that the firmware is under GPL... so if you really felt like it you could probably change the behavior of the phone. This I was not aware of. I will certainly evaluate this phone and it's bigger brother. Anyway sorry for the long message but I felt like chiming in on this. All in all I don't think it's a horrible phone I do however think it's over priced for what it is but not enough demand on this type of device is always going to keep the price up in the air. Your message is *exactly* the kind of reply I was hoping to get. Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a long response. I truly appreciate it. -A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bryan Laird, Sr. Manager CM Operations -+- Cablemodems are the gateway to the Internet. The Internet is a gateway to some things that are better left un-seen. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] wifi sip phone real-world experiences?
well, the best I got is the tc300/arcor/twintel a gsm/wifi from pirelli - http://www.pirellibroadband.com/en_IT/browser/attachments/pdf/DPL10.pdf tried many wifi phones, that's the best we got. Long lifetime for the battery, good reception, roaming between Access points with the same network... good enough for us and cheap. livier Andrew Kohlsmith a crit: On Monday 04 June 2007 10:28 am, Paul Hayes wrote: Looking at the OP's requirements list in the first post, there is nothing currently on the market which will cover anything like all those features (and do it well!). I've got the WIP300 and 330 on my list, with the latter being the more likely candidate, as I can throw up custom apps once I figure out how it's done. :-) I like the idea of a wifi phone running Linux though, so both of these options will have to be investigated. but I'm yet to test any of these. The main problem is they have a habit of constantly losing connection with my access points. Even the F1000G and F3000 phones I have here don't do that. My F1000G phones *CONSTANTLY* lost connection with my WRT54, and it had nothing to do with signal strength, as the access point was less than 10 feet away from my desk, with nothing between to interfere. :-( I'm yet to be convinced that wifi in it's current state is any use for telephony at all. DECT works so much better, it just needs someone to make a fully functioning SIP DECT phone. The Siemens is good but they need to work on more SIP functions, although proper transfers should be possible soon. I am also slowly coming to this conclusion. Polycom recently acquired SpectraLink, who've got many years in the wireless phone business. They've got both Wifi and DECT offerings, but nothing with bluetooth, so the search continues. :-) -A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[asterisk-users] wifi sip phone real-world experiences?
I've tested a few different wifi SIP phones for office/factory use, and generally have been underwhelmed. Before I grab another few and test, I'd like to ask around here about the candidates. My requirements are relatively simple: - WEP/PSK should be supported WITHOUT dragging the phone down - roaming between access points without dropping the call - decent set of ringers, not the garbage that cell phones use now - vibrate, ring, ringvibe (increasing volume a bonus) - transfer, hold, display caller ID - mass deployment (similar to polycom?) TFTP/FTP/HTTP config - decent, but not enormous battery life - replaceable batteries What's not important: - NAT passthrough - colour screen - MIDI ring tones Bonus features: - programmable soft buttons - bluetooth Currently I'm looking at the WIP300/330 and if I can find a source, the CW/Hitachi wifi phone. I've tried some of the UTStarCom phones, Pulver's WiSIP and another I can't think off offhand. Is there anything out there that anyone else has been reasonably happy with? -A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] wifi sip phone real-world experiences?
Did you look at this one? No frills, specs look good, price seems excellent! http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=369519 We're thinking of buying a couple for communication between our IT team members across 5 floors in 2 buildings. If you've tried it I'd be interested to hear you review. Cheers Alez ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] wifi sip phone real-world experiences?
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, Alex Crow wrote: Did you look at this one? No frills, specs look good, price seems excellent! http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=369519 That's a UT StarCom F1000G ... I have one of those phones and it's not very good - certianly can't handle roaming between APs on the same networks at all. It's still firmly in the toy category for me, I've *never* subject my paying clients to it! We're thinking of buying a couple for communication between our IT team members across 5 floors in 2 buildings. Forget it and get a SIP based DECT phone with proper DECT repeaters. Look at the Siemens range. I'm using the C460IP's and range coverage with a single wall mounted base unit is 10x better than WiFi. Repeaters are avalable to extend the range too, and it all just works. Or just get a decent contract on your mobile phones and use them with a GSM base unit with a SIM on the same contract. (to enable desk phone to mobile communcation at the contract rate and vice versa) I've used this: http://www.westlake.co.uk/Cellroute_GPRS_GSM_Fixed_Cellular_Terminal_gateway.htm with good results, although it's analogue, it does the job and is cheap enough for most small systems. Gordon ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [asterisk-users] wifi sip phone real-world experiences?
On Sunday 03 June 2007 4:30 pm, Alex Crow wrote: No frills, specs look good, price seems excellent! http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=369519 That's a terrible phone. I've tried them. the screen is pretty much useless, the buttons are *TINY*, the battery life horrible, and the ringtones gimmicky. I haven't tried WEP or WPA on these things, but the phones I've gotten rid of long ago due to their problems. -A. ___ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
