RE: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

2005-05-19 Thread Dave Cotton
On Wed, 2005-05-18 at 15:11 -0600, Rich Adamson wrote:

 
 FWIW, I'm 7db from my central office and am using rxgain=5.0 and
 txgain=1.0 for now.
 

Here in France I'm connected to ADSL using Free and they have a page
available that you can get some info on your line, I'm 1355 metres from
the central with 18dB. I'll play with rx/txgain.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

2005-05-19 Thread Rich Adamson
  
  FWIW, I'm 7db from my central office and am using rxgain=5.0 and
  txgain=1.0 for now.
  
 
 Here in France I'm connected to ADSL using Free and they have a page
 available that you can get some info on your line, I'm 1355 metres from
 the central with 18dB. I'll play with rx/txgain.

Those numbers don't sound right. In the US, many of the telcos have 
the same type of static information available (at least within their
internal records), but the numbers are intended to be used by non-
technical telco types to determine whether a customer's location can
reasonably expect to support dsl.

If the 1355 meters is correct, the cable loss should be more like
about 4db (give or take a little based upon exactly what gauge of
copper is actually used to serve your location).

My guess is the 18db number is only there to suggest some sort of
upper 'limit' for adsl.

If that guess is correct, then I'd expect settings somewhere close
to rxgain=3 and txgain=0 might be a reasonable starting point for
zapata.conf parameters.

Rich


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

2005-05-19 Thread Dave Cotton
On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 06:15 -0600, Rich Adamson wrote:

 Those numbers don't sound right. In the US, many of the telcos have 
 the same type of static information available (at least within their
 internal records), but the numbers are intended to be used by non-
 technical telco types to determine whether a customer's location can
 reasonably expect to support dsl.
 
 If the 1355 meters is correct, the cable loss should be more like
 about 4db (give or take a little based upon exactly what gauge of
 copper is actually used to serve your location).
 
 My guess is the 18db number is only there to suggest some sort of
 upper 'limit' for adsl.
 
 If that guess is correct, then I'd expect settings somewhere close
 to rxgain=3 and txgain=0 might be a reasonable starting point for
 zapata.conf parameters.
 

Interestingly I've found another site that I can get the data for any
number in France, the data is supposed to come from France Telecom's own
database. Even if you give an ISDN number it still reports the figures
but, of course, says the line is not suitable for ADSL.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

2005-05-19 Thread Rich Adamson
  Those numbers don't sound right. In the US, many of the telcos have 
  the same type of static information available (at least within their
  internal records), but the numbers are intended to be used by non-
  technical telco types to determine whether a customer's location can
  reasonably expect to support dsl.
  
  If the 1355 meters is correct, the cable loss should be more like
  about 4db (give or take a little based upon exactly what gauge of
  copper is actually used to serve your location).
  
  My guess is the 18db number is only there to suggest some sort of
  upper 'limit' for adsl.
  
  If that guess is correct, then I'd expect settings somewhere close
  to rxgain=3 and txgain=0 might be a reasonable starting point for
  zapata.conf parameters.
  
 
 Interestingly I've found another site that I can get the data for any
 number in France, the data is supposed to come from France Telecom's own
 database. Even if you give an ISDN number it still reports the figures
 but, of course, says the line is not suitable for ADSL.

In very very general terms, adsl is limited to sites that are within
about 18,000 feet of the central office. (The real limit is expressed
in terms of loss, but the limit was restated in terms of something the
average non-technical telco employees can understand -- distance.)
Adsl would never function on a cable pair that had 18db of loss, so
something's wrong with that reported number, or, it was meant to
communicate something different then how we're reading it.

If asterisk (zaptel) would behave like commercial pbx's (and associated
hardware), a real pbx engineer would:
 - measure the transmission loss from the customer's site to the
   central office milliwatt generator (eg, -7db loss)
 - then set the rxgain and txgain parameters to something slightly
   less then the measured loss (eg, rxgain=5, txgain=5). Its not
   uncommon to see those settings around 2db below the measured
   loss, but that varys by each pbx/telco engineering staff.

However, the echo canceller in asterisk is not very good, and that
forces us to use gain values substantially lower (causing complaints 
about low volume in many cases).

Part of the echo canceller problems seem to be related to highly
variable general-purpose PC hardware (amoung other things). That
includes pci/interrupt latency issues, OS overhead, etc. As a 
result, gain settings that work for one asterisk system may not
even be close for another system, and generally will be very
different from those used in commercial pbxs. (That is exactly
why T1/E1 interfaces to asterisk are preferred over analog
interfaces.)

Those asterisk systems further away from the central office typically
have more issues with echo and audio levels then do those systems 
closer to the central office (distance measured in terms of pstn 
cable loss). That's also one of the reasons why colocated asterisk
boxes don't have as many echo  audio level issues.



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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

2005-05-18 Thread Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp.
Hello Rod, I'll try it, thanks.

Greg 

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Make sure you have disabled framebuffer, apic and acpi.


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

2005-05-18 Thread Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp.
Hello Bryce,
Gain settings do seem to have an effect.  I am going from a Cisco
7960AsteriskZap TDM CardPOTS 

Thanks,
Greg

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Chidester
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 1:08 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

That type of echo is usually caused by incorrectly (or not at all) tuned
gain settings in zapata.conf. I don't know what kind of phones you're
using, but for Asterisk to even be able to detect DTMF tones on our
Sayson / Aastra 390s and 480s, our FXS channels are set to -5.0 on both
rx and txgain. If you're using externally-powered phones (as in not your
ordinary joe-schmoe analog phone), I have found that they're usually
pretty hot (loud) and Asterisk can't understand what is said.
Good luck!

Regards,
Bryce Chidester
Rhino Equipment Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]SIP: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+1 (480) 940-1826 x305IAX:  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/305


On May 17, 2005, at 19:00, Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp. wrote:


 On a recompile of the kernel I now get a 99.98 average.
 Static is gone, although quality so far seems not quite there yet.

 I am also experiencing an odd local echo.  I can hear a slight echo 
 locally, but the other end sounds fine, and the other end does not get

 echo.

 Even with the pots disconnected, you can hear it.  The static would be

 on all calls.  Hooking up a normal phone was ok.  The sipsip phones 
 are perfect too, it was only happening on the zap channel...

 Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy 
 Parr
 Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:05 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

 On 5/16/05, Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hello All,
 I recently put in a zaptel 1fxo/1fxs card.  I am experiencing heavy 
 static.

 Even with the pots line disconnected, if I do a dial I still get


 static.


 This way I know it's not the line, but rather something on the card.

 I tried alternate pci slots.

 This card has a power connector, does anyone know what the power 
 requirements are?  The unit is in a small case with a 2.4ghz p-4 and 
 512mb ram, on an intel board with 533fsb.  All other functions are


 fine.



 I am using the latest CVS on Debian 2.6test

 Anyone experience this?



 Have you tried a different phone? Does the static appear immediately 
 when you pick up the phone? Or on the second or third time?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

2005-05-18 Thread Gary Carr
I have that exact setup and am getting a echo at the beginning of a inbound 
call. What gain settings work best for you?


Gary

Hello Bryce,
Gain settings do seem to have an effect.  I am going from a Cisco
7960AsteriskZap TDM CardPOTS
Thanks,
Greg
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryce
Chidester
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 1:08 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO
That type of echo is usually caused by incorrectly (or not at all) tuned
gain settings in zapata.conf. I don't know what kind of phones you're
using, but for Asterisk to even be able to detect DTMF tones on our
Sayson / Aastra 390s and 480s, our FXS channels are set to -5.0 on both
rx and txgain. If you're using externally-powered phones (as in not your
ordinary joe-schmoe analog phone), I have found that they're usually
pretty hot (loud) and Asterisk can't understand what is said.
Good luck!
Regards,
Bryce Chidester
Rhino Equipment Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]SIP: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+1 (480) 940-1826 x305IAX:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/305
On May 17, 2005, at 19:00, Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp. wrote:

On a recompile of the kernel I now get a 99.98 average.
Static is gone, although quality so far seems not quite there yet.
I am also experiencing an odd local echo.  I can hear a slight echo
locally, but the other end sounds fine, and the other end does not get

echo.
Even with the pots disconnected, you can hear it.  The static would be

on all calls.  Hooking up a normal phone was ok.  The sipsip phones
are perfect too, it was only happening on the zap channel...
Greg
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Parr
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:05 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO
On 5/16/05, Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello All,
I recently put in a zaptel 1fxo/1fxs card.  I am experiencing heavy
static.
Even with the pots line disconnected, if I do a dial I still get

static.

This way I know it's not the line, but rather something on the card.
I tried alternate pci slots.
This card has a power connector, does anyone know what the power
requirements are?  The unit is in a small case with a 2.4ghz p-4 and
512mb ram, on an intel board with 533fsb.  All other functions are

fine.

I am using the latest CVS on Debian 2.6test
Anyone experience this?

Have you tried a different phone? Does the static appear immediately
when you pick up the phone? Or on the second or third time?
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

2005-05-18 Thread Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp.
I still need to experiment with it, so I am not sure yet.  When I have
it I will post the settings.  I really don't have a clear understanding
yet of the principles for using gain.  Are there, for example, specific
reasons for different settings.  All I want is to be sure I can hear the
other party, and they can hear me in the proper volume.

Greg 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Carr
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:29 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

I have that exact setup and am getting a echo at the beginning of a
inbound call. What gain settings work best for you?




Gary




Hello Bryce,
Gain settings do seem to have an effect.  I am going from a Cisco
7960AsteriskZap TDM CardPOTS

Thanks,
Greg

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryce
Chidester
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 1:08 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

That type of echo is usually caused by incorrectly (or not at all) tuned
gain settings in zapata.conf. I don't know what kind of phones you're
using, but for Asterisk to even be able to detect DTMF tones on our
Sayson / Aastra 390s and 480s, our FXS channels are set to -5.0 on both
rx and txgain. If you're using externally-powered phones (as in not your
ordinary joe-schmoe analog phone), I have found that they're usually
pretty hot (loud) and Asterisk can't understand what is said.
Good luck!

Regards,
Bryce Chidester
Rhino Equipment Corp.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]SIP: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+1 (480) 940-1826 x305IAX:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/305


On May 17, 2005, at 19:00, Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp. wrote:


 On a recompile of the kernel I now get a 99.98 average.
 Static is gone, although quality so far seems not quite there yet.

 I am also experiencing an odd local echo.  I can hear a slight echo
 locally, but the other end sounds fine, and the other end does not get

 echo.

 Even with the pots disconnected, you can hear it.  The static would be

 on all calls.  Hooking up a normal phone was ok.  The sipsip phones
 are perfect too, it was only happening on the zap channel...

 Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy
 Parr
 Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:05 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

 On 5/16/05, Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hello All,
 I recently put in a zaptel 1fxo/1fxs card.  I am experiencing heavy
 static.

 Even with the pots line disconnected, if I do a dial I still get


 static.


 This way I know it's not the line, but rather something on the card.

 I tried alternate pci slots.

 This card has a power connector, does anyone know what the power
 requirements are?  The unit is in a small case with a 2.4ghz p-4 and
 512mb ram, on an intel board with 533fsb.  All other functions are


 fine.



 I am using the latest CVS on Debian 2.6test

 Anyone experience this?



 Have you tried a different phone? Does the static appear immediately
 when you pick up the phone? Or on the second or third time?
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

2005-05-18 Thread Rich Adamson
Greg, 

The rxgain and txgain settings are essentially used to address the
pstn cable loss between your asterisk box and the central office.
If you were located right next to the central office, then settings
around 0.0 might work well. The further away you are from the central
office the greater the gain number needed to compensate for that loss.

The negative side of that is that if the gain settings are too high,
you're likely to have echo on every call. So, start with something
like rxgain=3.0 and txgain=3.0 and place a test call. If echo, drop
both settings down by 3 (rxgain=0.0  txgain=0.0) and repeat.

Each time you change those settings in zapata.conf, you will need to
stop asterisk and restart it. A reload won't change the settings.

FWIW, I'm 7db from my central office and am using rxgain=5.0 and
txgain=1.0 for now.


 I still need to experiment with it, so I am not sure yet.  When I have
 it I will post the settings.  I really don't have a clear understanding
 yet of the principles for using gain.  Are there, for example, specific
 reasons for different settings.  All I want is to be sure I can hear the
 other party, and they can hear me in the proper volume.
 
 Greg 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Carr
 Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 11:29 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO
 
 I have that exact setup and am getting a echo at the beginning of a
 inbound call. What gain settings work best for you?
 
 
 
 
 Gary
 
 
 
 
 Hello Bryce,
 Gain settings do seem to have an effect.  I am going from a Cisco
 7960AsteriskZap TDM CardPOTS
 
 Thanks,
 Greg
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bryce
 Chidester
 Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 1:08 AM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO
 
 That type of echo is usually caused by incorrectly (or not at all) tuned
 gain settings in zapata.conf. I don't know what kind of phones you're
 using, but for Asterisk to even be able to detect DTMF tones on our
 Sayson / Aastra 390s and 480s, our FXS channels are set to -5.0 on both
 rx and txgain. If you're using externally-powered phones (as in not your
 ordinary joe-schmoe analog phone), I have found that they're usually
 pretty hot (loud) and Asterisk can't understand what is said.
 Good luck!
 
 Regards,
 Bryce Chidester
 Rhino Equipment Corp.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]SIP: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 +1 (480) 940-1826 x305IAX:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]/305
 
 
 On May 17, 2005, at 19:00, Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp. wrote:
 
 
  On a recompile of the kernel I now get a 99.98 average.
  Static is gone, although quality so far seems not quite there yet.
 
  I am also experiencing an odd local echo.  I can hear a slight echo
  locally, but the other end sounds fine, and the other end does not get
 
  echo.
 
  Even with the pots disconnected, you can hear it.  The static would be
 
  on all calls.  Hooking up a normal phone was ok.  The sipsip phones
  are perfect too, it was only happening on the zap channel...
 
  Greg
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy
  Parr
  Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:05 PM
  To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
  Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO
 
  On 5/16/05, Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Hello All,
  I recently put in a zaptel 1fxo/1fxs card.  I am experiencing heavy
  static.
 
  Even with the pots line disconnected, if I do a dial I still get
 
 
  static.
 
 
  This way I know it's not the line, but rather something on the card.
 
  I tried alternate pci slots.
 
  This card has a power connector, does anyone know what the power
  requirements are?  The unit is in a small case with a 2.4ghz p-4 and
  512mb ram, on an intel board with 533fsb.  All other functions are
 
 
  fine.
 
 
 
  I am using the latest CVS on Debian 2.6test
 
  Anyone experience this?
 
 
 
  Have you tried a different phone? Does the static appear immediately
  when you pick up the phone? Or on the second or third time?
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

2005-05-17 Thread Rich Adamson
Doubtfull the 99.98% is any sort of problem. The number would have to be
much lower to have a constant impact on audio. 



 A kernel recompile managed to give me an average of 99.98%, but I am not
 certain that this is optimal.  It seems that I get some background hiss,
 although the static is gone.
 
 Anyone out there with higher than this?
 
 Thanks,
 Greg 
 
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 Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 5:40 PM
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 Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO
 
 Hello,
 Yes in the bios I set unused irq's.  Zttest is sporadic.
 
 This is a non HT cpu, on a standard ide drive.  It is basically just a
 p4-2.4 with a single ide, onboard lan, and that's about it.  All other
 asterisk functions work well.
 
 Next step I think I'll try it on another board and see what happens...
 Or maybe recompile the kernel.
 
 Greg 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Damian
 Funnell
 Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 5:30 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO
 
 Hi Gregory,
 
 Have you checked that the card is on its own IRQ?
 
 There has been a bit of discussion about this type of thing recently on
 the list, do a search on the archive to find the various threads.
 
 Try running zttest and see what accuracy it is reporting - anything less
 than 99.99% is supposedly bad.
 
 Various 'fixes' (work-arounds) are to make sure the zaptel is on it's
 own IRQ, disable Hyperthreading and remove RAID controllers or any other
 high-performance devices that support DMA and other things that are
 likely to compete with the zaptel.
 
 Good luck.
 D.
 
 FFF Managed Technology Ltd
 60 Cook St
 P.O. 6368 Wellesley St
 Auckland
 t +64 9 356 2911
 f +64 9 358 9070
 m +64 21 415 297
 w www.fff.co.nz
 
 
 
 Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp. wrote:
 
 Hello All,
 I recently put in a zaptel 1fxo/1fxs card.  I am experiencing heavy 
 static.
 
 Even with the pots line disconnected, if I do a dial I still get
 static.
 This way I know it's not the line, but rather something on the card.
 
 I tried alternate pci slots.
 
 This card has a power connector, does anyone know what the power 
 requirements are?  The unit is in a small case with a 2.4ghz p-4 and 
 512mb ram, on an intel board with 533fsb.  All other functions are
 fine.
 
 I am using the latest CVS on Debian 2.6test
 
 Anyone experience this?
 
 Regards,
 Greg
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

2005-05-17 Thread Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp.
On a recompile of the kernel I now get a 99.98 average.
Static is gone, although quality so far seems not quite there yet.

I am also experiencing an odd local echo.  I can hear a slight echo
locally, but the other end sounds fine, and the other end does not get
echo.

Even with the pots disconnected, you can hear it.  The static would be
on all calls.  Hooking up a normal phone was ok.  The sipsip phones are
perfect too, it was only happening on the zap channel...

Greg 

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Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

On 5/16/05, Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello All,
 I recently put in a zaptel 1fxo/1fxs card.  I am experiencing heavy 
 static.
 
 Even with the pots line disconnected, if I do a dial I still get
static.
 This way I know it's not the line, but rather something on the card.
 
 I tried alternate pci slots.
 
 This card has a power connector, does anyone know what the power 
 requirements are?  The unit is in a small case with a 2.4ghz p-4 and 
 512mb ram, on an intel board with 533fsb.  All other functions are
fine.
 
 I am using the latest CVS on Debian 2.6test
 
 Anyone experience this?

Have you tried a different phone? Does the static appear immediately
when you pick up the phone? Or on the second or third time?
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

2005-05-17 Thread Jason Walker


I'm not sure what type of phone you are on, but some of the SIP users at
my job get the echo when their MIC is turned up too much. The SIP phone,
from one * to another *, is hooked into ZAP channels.

SIP Client  SIP Server  ZAP Server  T1 connection

If the SIP Client goes too high with the MIC, no good.

Not sure if that helps. Or provides any insight. 

-Original Message-
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- ADCom Corp.
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 7:00 PM
To: Jeremy Parr; Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

On a recompile of the kernel I now get a 99.98 average.
Static is gone, although quality so far seems not quite there yet.

I am also experiencing an odd local echo.  I can hear a slight echo locally,
but the other end sounds fine, and the other end does not get echo.

Even with the pots disconnected, you can hear it.  The static would be on
all calls.  Hooking up a normal phone was ok.  The sipsip phones are
perfect too, it was only happening on the zap channel...

Greg 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy Parr
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:05 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

On 5/16/05, Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello All,
 I recently put in a zaptel 1fxo/1fxs card.  I am experiencing heavy 
 static.
 
 Even with the pots line disconnected, if I do a dial I still get
static.
 This way I know it's not the line, but rather something on the card.
 
 I tried alternate pci slots.
 
 This card has a power connector, does anyone know what the power 
 requirements are?  The unit is in a small case with a 2.4ghz p-4 and 
 512mb ram, on an intel board with 533fsb.  All other functions are
fine.
 
 I am using the latest CVS on Debian 2.6test
 
 Anyone experience this?

Have you tried a different phone? Does the static appear immediately when
you pick up the phone? Or on the second or third time?
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

2005-05-17 Thread Rod Bacon
Make sure you have disabled framebuffer, apic and acpi.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

2005-05-17 Thread Bryce Chidester
That type of echo is usually caused by incorrectly (or not at all)  
tuned gain settings in zapata.conf. I don't know what kind of phones  
you're using, but for Asterisk to even be able to detect DTMF tones  
on our Sayson / Aastra 390s and 480s, our FXS channels are set to  
-5.0 on both rx and txgain. If you're using externally-powered phones  
(as in not your ordinary joe-schmoe analog phone), I have found that  
they're usually pretty hot (loud) and Asterisk can't understand  
what is said.
Good luck!

Regards,
Bryce Chidester
Rhino Equipment Corp.
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+1 (480) 940-1826 x305IAX:  
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/305

On May 17, 2005, at 19:00, Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp. wrote:

On a recompile of the kernel I now get a 99.98 average.
Static is gone, although quality so far seems not quite there yet.
I am also experiencing an odd local echo.  I can hear a slight echo
locally, but the other end sounds fine, and the other end does not get
echo.
Even with the pots disconnected, you can hear it.  The static would be
on all calls.  Hooking up a normal phone was ok.  The sipsip  
phones are
perfect too, it was only happening on the zap channel...

Greg
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy
Parr
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 8:05 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO
On 5/16/05, Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello All,
I recently put in a zaptel 1fxo/1fxs card.  I am experiencing heavy
static.
Even with the pots line disconnected, if I do a dial I still get

static.

This way I know it's not the line, but rather something on the card.
I tried alternate pci slots.
This card has a power connector, does anyone know what the power
requirements are?  The unit is in a small case with a 2.4ghz p-4 and
512mb ram, on an intel board with 533fsb.  All other functions are

fine.

I am using the latest CVS on Debian 2.6test
Anyone experience this?

Have you tried a different phone? Does the static appear immediately
when you pick up the phone? Or on the second or third time?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

2005-05-16 Thread Damian Funnell
Hi Gregory,
Have you checked that the card is on its own IRQ?
There has been a bit of discussion about this type of thing recently on 
the list, do a search on the archive to find the various threads.

Try running zttest and see what accuracy it is reporting - anything less 
than 99.99% is supposedly bad.

Various 'fixes' (work-arounds) are to make sure the zaptel is on it's 
own IRQ, disable Hyperthreading and remove RAID controllers or any other 
high-performance devices that support DMA and other things that are 
likely to compete with the zaptel.

Good luck.
D.
FFF Managed Technology Ltd
60 Cook St
P.O. 6368 Wellesley St
Auckland
t +64 9 356 2911
f +64 9 358 9070
m +64 21 415 297
w www.fff.co.nz

Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp. wrote:
Hello All,
I recently put in a zaptel 1fxo/1fxs card.  I am experiencing heavy
static.  

Even with the pots line disconnected, if I do a dial I still get static.
This way I know it's not the line, but rather something on the card.
I tried alternate pci slots.
This card has a power connector, does anyone know what the power
requirements are?  The unit is in a small case with a 2.4ghz p-4 and
512mb ram, on an intel board with 533fsb.  All other functions are fine.
I am using the latest CVS on Debian 2.6test
Anyone experience this?
Regards,
Greg
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

2005-05-16 Thread Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp.
Hello,
Yes in the bios I set unused irq's.  Zttest is sporadic.

This is a non HT cpu, on a standard ide drive.  It is basically just a
p4-2.4 with a single ide, onboard lan, and that's about it.  All other
asterisk functions work well.

Next step I think I'll try it on another board and see what happens...
Or maybe recompile the kernel.

Greg 

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Funnell
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 5:30 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

Hi Gregory,

Have you checked that the card is on its own IRQ?

There has been a bit of discussion about this type of thing recently on
the list, do a search on the archive to find the various threads.

Try running zttest and see what accuracy it is reporting - anything less
than 99.99% is supposedly bad.

Various 'fixes' (work-arounds) are to make sure the zaptel is on it's
own IRQ, disable Hyperthreading and remove RAID controllers or any other
high-performance devices that support DMA and other things that are
likely to compete with the zaptel.

Good luck.
D.

FFF Managed Technology Ltd
60 Cook St
P.O. 6368 Wellesley St
Auckland
t +64 9 356 2911
f +64 9 358 9070
m +64 21 415 297
w www.fff.co.nz



Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp. wrote:

Hello All,
I recently put in a zaptel 1fxo/1fxs card.  I am experiencing heavy 
static.

Even with the pots line disconnected, if I do a dial I still get
static.
This way I know it's not the line, but rather something on the card.

I tried alternate pci slots.

This card has a power connector, does anyone know what the power 
requirements are?  The unit is in a small case with a 2.4ghz p-4 and 
512mb ram, on an intel board with 533fsb.  All other functions are
fine.

I am using the latest CVS on Debian 2.6test

Anyone experience this?

Regards,
Greg
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

2005-05-16 Thread Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp.
A kernel recompile managed to give me an average of 99.98%, but I am not
certain that this is optimal.  It seems that I get some background hiss,
although the static is gone.

Anyone out there with higher than this?

Thanks,
Greg 

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Wiktor - ADCom Corp.
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 5:40 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

Hello,
Yes in the bios I set unused irq's.  Zttest is sporadic.

This is a non HT cpu, on a standard ide drive.  It is basically just a
p4-2.4 with a single ide, onboard lan, and that's about it.  All other
asterisk functions work well.

Next step I think I'll try it on another board and see what happens...
Or maybe recompile the kernel.

Greg 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Damian
Funnell
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2005 5:30 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

Hi Gregory,

Have you checked that the card is on its own IRQ?

There has been a bit of discussion about this type of thing recently on
the list, do a search on the archive to find the various threads.

Try running zttest and see what accuracy it is reporting - anything less
than 99.99% is supposedly bad.

Various 'fixes' (work-arounds) are to make sure the zaptel is on it's
own IRQ, disable Hyperthreading and remove RAID controllers or any other
high-performance devices that support DMA and other things that are
likely to compete with the zaptel.

Good luck.
D.

FFF Managed Technology Ltd
60 Cook St
P.O. 6368 Wellesley St
Auckland
t +64 9 356 2911
f +64 9 358 9070
m +64 21 415 297
w www.fff.co.nz



Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp. wrote:

Hello All,
I recently put in a zaptel 1fxo/1fxs card.  I am experiencing heavy 
static.

Even with the pots line disconnected, if I do a dial I still get
static.
This way I know it's not the line, but rather something on the card.

I tried alternate pci slots.

This card has a power connector, does anyone know what the power 
requirements are?  The unit is in a small case with a 2.4ghz p-4 and 
512mb ram, on an intel board with 533fsb.  All other functions are
fine.

I am using the latest CVS on Debian 2.6test

Anyone experience this?

Regards,
Greg
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Static on TDM Zaptel FXO

2005-05-16 Thread Jeremy Parr
On 5/16/05, Gregory Wiktor - ADCom Corp. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello All,
 I recently put in a zaptel 1fxo/1fxs card.  I am experiencing heavy
 static.
 
 Even with the pots line disconnected, if I do a dial I still get static.
 This way I know it's not the line, but rather something on the card.
 
 I tried alternate pci slots.
 
 This card has a power connector, does anyone know what the power
 requirements are?  The unit is in a small case with a 2.4ghz p-4 and
 512mb ram, on an intel board with 533fsb.  All other functions are fine.
 
 I am using the latest CVS on Debian 2.6test
 
 Anyone experience this?

Have you tried a different phone? Does the static appear immediately
when you pick up the phone? Or on the second or third time?
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