Re: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GS zaptel timing device

2004-10-28 Thread Robert Rozman
Hi,

I'm desperately looking for more info about running Asterisk on WRT54GS. Can
you please give some more info how to do this (any pointer to site, more
info ...) ?

How much room is there on router for software ?

Thanks in advance,

regards,

Robert.

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 Hello,

 I know that I can run Asterisk on the Linksys WRT54GS, but can I do
 Zaptel as well?  I would really like a timing device so I can do IAX2
 trunking - but I don't know how to go about it.  Has anyone done this?

 --
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GS zaptel timing device

2004-10-28 Thread Steve Underwood
Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
Hello,
I know that I can run Asterisk on the Linksys WRT54GS, but can I 
do Zaptel as well?  I would really like a timing device so I can do 
IAX2 trunking - but I don't know how to go about it.  Has anyone done 
this?

You *know* it can? Does that mean you've actually seen it work? A number 
of people have said it can run, but after questioning it turns out to be 
hearsay.

You can replace the Linksys image with one of serveral. You can build 
Asterisk with the tools. You can load that image into the Linksys box. 
You can run it. Then you seem to get stuck, because something fouls up 
in the threading and nothing works.

Anyone who can post a real way to get Asterisk running on these Linksys 
boxes will be considered a hero :-)

Steve
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GS zaptel timing device

2004-10-28 Thread Steve Totaro
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040527.html
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Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
Hello,
I know that I can run Asterisk on the Linksys WRT54GS, but can I do 
Zaptel as well?  I would really like a timing device so I can do IAX2 
trunking - but I don't know how to go about it.  Has anyone done this?

You *know* it can? Does that mean you've actually seen it work? A number 
of people have said it can run, but after questioning it turns out to be 
hearsay.

You can replace the Linksys image with one of serveral. You can build 
Asterisk with the tools. You can load that image into the Linksys box. You 
can run it. Then you seem to get stuck, because something fouls up in the 
threading and nothing works.

Anyone who can post a real way to get Asterisk running on these Linksys 
boxes will be considered a hero :-)

Steve
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GS zaptel timing device

2004-10-28 Thread Steve Underwood
Hi Steve,
I know about that page, but it does not mention Asterisk. I have built 
and run several things on a wrt54g. I just haven't had the time to 
figure out why Asterisk doesn't work. It seems to be a threading 
problem, from the little time I spent playing with it. I tried some 
other test code that does threading, and it ran without problems.

Steve
Steve Totaro wrote:
http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040527.html
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Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
Hello,
I know that I can run Asterisk on the Linksys WRT54GS, but can I 
do Zaptel as well?  I would really like a timing device so I can do 
IAX2 trunking - but I don't know how to go about it.  Has anyone 
done this?

You *know* it can? Does that mean you've actually seen it work? A 
number of people have said it can run, but after questioning it turns 
out to be hearsay.

You can replace the Linksys image with one of serveral. You can build 
Asterisk with the tools. You can load that image into the Linksys 
box. You can run it. Then you seem to get stuck, because something 
fouls up in the threading and nothing works.

Anyone who can post a real way to get Asterisk running on these 
Linksys boxes will be considered a hero :-)

Steve

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GS zaptel timing device

2004-10-28 Thread Matt Schulte
Now if one could only find a way to adapt an FXS module! :-)

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http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040527.html


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 Kristian Kielhofner wrote:

 Hello,

 I know that I can run Asterisk on the Linksys WRT54GS, but can I 
 do
 Zaptel as well?  I would really like a timing device so I can do IAX2

 trunking - but I don't know how to go about it.  Has anyone done
this?

 You *know* it can? Does that mean you've actually seen it work? A 
 number
 of people have said it can run, but after questioning it turns out to
be 
 hearsay.

 You can replace the Linksys image with one of serveral. You can build
 Asterisk with the tools. You can load that image into the Linksys box.
You 
 can run it. Then you seem to get stuck, because something fouls up in
the 
 threading and nothing works.

 Anyone who can post a real way to get Asterisk running on these 
 Linksys
 boxes will be considered a hero :-)

 Steve


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GS zaptel timing device

2004-10-28 Thread Paul Rodan
Using zaptel, zaprtc and rtcsetup you can get simple Zaptel timing, no usb
ports or zaptel hardware required.

Zaprtc is a simple hack to the rtc driver. Compile your kernel without rtc
support, compile this module, and load it along with zaptel. Then run
rtcsetup  to put it in the background and you've got Zaptel timing.

However, if Asterisk has problems running on it, then it's useless.

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Now if one could only find a way to adapt an FXS module! :-)

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http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040527.html


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 Kristian Kielhofner wrote:

 Hello,

 I know that I can run Asterisk on the Linksys WRT54GS, but can I 
 do
 Zaptel as well?  I would really like a timing device so I can do IAX2

 trunking - but I don't know how to go about it.  Has anyone done
this?

 You *know* it can? Does that mean you've actually seen it work? A 
 number
 of people have said it can run, but after questioning it turns out to
be 
 hearsay.

 You can replace the Linksys image with one of serveral. You can build
 Asterisk with the tools. You can load that image into the Linksys box.
You 
 can run it. Then you seem to get stuck, because something fouls up in
the 
 threading and nothing works.

 Anyone who can post a real way to get Asterisk running on these 
 Linksys
 boxes will be considered a hero :-)

 Steve


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GS zaptel timing device

2004-10-28 Thread Paul Rodan
Curious, can a WRT54G with this firmware, using Wonder Shaper, act as a
cheap QOS device? 

One of our biggest problems is customers with Cable/DSL (256k upload) trying
to upload files or browse several webpages at once, it affects the quality
of the phone calls, naturally. We were looking into cheap managed switches
for their QOS ability, but it seems the LinkSys would be a cheaper/easier
solution. 

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http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040527.html


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 Kristian Kielhofner wrote:

 Hello,

 I know that I can run Asterisk on the Linksys WRT54GS, but can I do 
 Zaptel as well?  I would really like a timing device so I can do IAX2 
 trunking - but I don't know how to go about it.  Has anyone done this?

 You *know* it can? Does that mean you've actually seen it work? A number 
 of people have said it can run, but after questioning it turns out to be 
 hearsay.

 You can replace the Linksys image with one of serveral. You can build 
 Asterisk with the tools. You can load that image into the Linksys box. You

 can run it. Then you seem to get stuck, because something fouls up in the 
 threading and nothing works.

 Anyone who can post a real way to get Asterisk running on these Linksys 
 boxes will be considered a hero :-)

 Steve


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GS zaptel timing device

2004-10-28 Thread Steve Totaro
yes.
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Curious, can a WRT54G with this firmware, using Wonder Shaper, act as a
cheap QOS device?
One of our biggest problems is customers with Cable/DSL (256k upload) 
trying
to upload files or browse several webpages at once, it affects the quality
of the phone calls, naturally. We were looking into cheap managed switches
for their QOS ability, but it seems the LinkSys would be a cheaper/easier
solution.

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http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040527.html
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Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
Hello,
I know that I can run Asterisk on the Linksys WRT54GS, but can I do
Zaptel as well?  I would really like a timing device so I can do IAX2
trunking - but I don't know how to go about it.  Has anyone done this?
You *know* it can? Does that mean you've actually seen it work? A number
of people have said it can run, but after questioning it turns out to be
hearsay.
You can replace the Linksys image with one of serveral. You can build
Asterisk with the tools. You can load that image into the Linksys box. 
You

can run it. Then you seem to get stuck, because something fouls up in the
threading and nothing works.
Anyone who can post a real way to get Asterisk running on these Linksys
boxes will be considered a hero :-)
Steve
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GS zaptel timing device

2004-10-28 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
Steve Underwood wrote:
Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
Hello,
I know that I can run Asterisk on the Linksys WRT54GS, but can I 
do Zaptel as well?  I would really like a timing device so I can do 
IAX2 trunking - but I don't know how to go about it.  Has anyone done 
this?

You *know* it can? Does that mean you've actually seen it work? A number 
of people have said it can run, but after questioning it turns out to be 
hearsay.

You can replace the Linksys image with one of serveral. You can build 
Asterisk with the tools. You can load that image into the Linksys box. 
You can run it. Then you seem to get stuck, because something fouls up 
in the threading and nothing works.

Anyone who can post a real way to get Asterisk running on these Linksys 
boxes will be considered a hero :-)

Steve
Steve,
	My application for Asterisk on the WRT is for remote offices where you 
could have SIP phones register with Asterisk on the WRT, and it would do 
IAX2 trunking back to the main Asterisk machine.

No voicemail, meetme, transcoding, cdr, etc.  Just a few modules.  But I 
need Zaptel and I timer even for this limited application (IAX2 trunking).

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GS zaptel timing device

2004-10-28 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
Paul Rodan wrote:
Curious, can a WRT54G with this firmware, using Wonder Shaper, act as a
cheap QOS device? 

One of our biggest problems is customers with Cable/DSL (256k upload) trying
to upload files or browse several webpages at once, it affects the quality
of the phone calls, naturally. We were looking into cheap managed switches
for their QOS ability, but it seems the LinkSys would be a cheaper/easier
solution. 

You can use OpenWRT and wondershaper (tc), or Sveasoft if you want 
something simpler.  I have been told that even the LinkSys firmware 
includes QoS support.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GS zaptel timing device

2004-10-28 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
Paul Rodan wrote:
Using zaptel, zaprtc and rtcsetup you can get simple Zaptel timing, no usb
ports or zaptel hardware required.
Zaprtc is a simple hack to the rtc driver. Compile your kernel without rtc
support, compile this module, and load it along with zaptel. Then run
rtcsetup  to put it in the background and you've got Zaptel timing.
However, if Asterisk has problems running on it, then it's useless.
The problem is, you need to have an RTC for zaprtc to work.  The WRT 
does not :)

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GS zaptel timing device

2004-10-28 Thread Tom
At 09:18 AM 10/28/2004, you wrote:
Curious, can a WRT54G with this firmware, using Wonder Shaper, act as a
cheap QOS device?
Yes.  Join the Sveasoft forum and there is good info on 
this.  http://www.sveasoft.com/

I personally have not tried the QOS yet but it is supposed to work.
Tom
One of our biggest problems is customers with Cable/DSL (256k upload) trying
to upload files or browse several webpages at once, it affects the quality
of the phone calls, naturally. We were looking into cheap managed switches
for their QOS ability, but it seems the LinkSys would be a cheaper/easier
solution.
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http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit20040527.html
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Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GS zaptel timing device
 Kristian Kielhofner wrote:

 Hello,

 I know that I can run Asterisk on the Linksys WRT54GS, but can I do
 Zaptel as well?  I would really like a timing device so I can do IAX2
 trunking - but I don't know how to go about it.  Has anyone done this?

 You *know* it can? Does that mean you've actually seen it work? A number
 of people have said it can run, but after questioning it turns out to be
 hearsay.

 You can replace the Linksys image with one of serveral. You can build
 Asterisk with the tools. You can load that image into the Linksys box. You
 can run it. Then you seem to get stuck, because something fouls up in the
 threading and nothing works.

 Anyone who can post a real way to get Asterisk running on these Linksys
 boxes will be considered a hero :-)

 Steve
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GS zaptel timing device

2004-10-28 Thread Paul Rodan
Ahh, well then, that would be a problem.

Doesn't it seem minor compared to the problem that nobody has successfully
gotten Asterisk to run for an extended time on the WRT54G? Do you already
have Asterisk successfully running on one?

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Paul Rodan wrote:

 Using zaptel, zaprtc and rtcsetup you can get simple Zaptel timing, no usb
 ports or zaptel hardware required.
 
 Zaprtc is a simple hack to the rtc driver. Compile your kernel without rtc
 support, compile this module, and load it along with zaptel. Then run
 rtcsetup  to put it in the background and you've got Zaptel timing.
 
 However, if Asterisk has problems running on it, then it's useless.
 

The problem is, you need to have an RTC for zaprtc to work.  The WRT 
does not :)

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GS zaptel timing device

2004-10-28 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
Paul Rodan wrote:
Ahh, well then, that would be a problem.
Doesn't it seem minor compared to the problem that nobody has successfully
gotten Asterisk to run for an extended time on the WRT54G? Do you already
have Asterisk successfully running on one?
Paul,
	I am going to try later this evening, with a very stripped down version 
of Asterisk - see some of my earlier posts.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GS zaptel timing device

2004-10-27 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
I know that I can run Asterisk on the Linksys WRT54GS, but can I do 
Zaptel as well?  I would really like a timing device so I can do IAX2 
trunking - but I don't know how to go about it.  Has anyone done this?
If you can run a 2.6 kernel on that device, then ztdummy will work just 
fine. If must run a 2.4 kernel, then I think you don't have any options 
for a timing device, except for a TDMoE span to another box that can 
supply timing.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GS zaptel timing device

2004-10-27 Thread Kristian Kielhofner
Kevin P. Fleming wrote:
Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
I know that I can run Asterisk on the Linksys WRT54GS, but can I 
do Zaptel as well?  I would really like a timing device so I can do 
IAX2 trunking - but I don't know how to go about it.  Has anyone done 
this?

If you can run a 2.6 kernel on that device, then ztdummy will work just 
fine. If must run a 2.4 kernel, then I think you don't have any options 
for a timing device, except for a TDMoE span to another box that can 
supply timing.
I don't think that this little box has a RTC to do the 1000hz on 2.6.  I 
have built OpenWRT and 'grep -i rtc .config' in the kernel directory 
reports that CONFIG_RTC is not set - not good news.  I don't know if a 
2.6 kernel will work anyways, if it is even possible it should be quite 
a challenge.

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Kristian Kielhofner
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] WRT54GS zaptel timing device

2004-10-27 Thread Kevin P. Fleming
Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
I don't think that this little box has a RTC to do the 1000hz on 2.6.  I 
have built OpenWRT and 'grep -i rtc .config' in the kernel directory 
reports that CONFIG_RTC is not set - not good news.  I don't know if a 
2.6 kernel will work anyways, if it is even possible it should be quite 
a challenge.
The kernel _has_ to have a timing source, it just doesn't have to be an 
RTC. The kernel measures process schedules in jiffies, and uses a 
regular interrupt source for that. The ztdummy module for 2.6 just 
leverages that, it doesn't need an RTC.

In summary: if you have a 2.6 kernel running, you can use ztdummy, 
without worrying about what hardware is in the system. You are right, 
though, it may not yet be possible to run a 2.6 kernel on that hardware.
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