Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?)

2017-05-11 Thread Don Kelly
Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?) Personally, if I was a client, I would rather have the personell answer the phone than make a outgoing call, if I would choose. If you think of billing and costs. So if a client allows outgoing, I

Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?)

2017-05-11 Thread Sebastian Nielsen
users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] För Don Kelly Skickat: den 11 maj 2017 17:04 Till: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com> Ämne: Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?) As a clie

Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?)

2017-05-11 Thread Don Kelly
-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Adam Goldberg Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2017 8:00 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?) Seems like this is the best idea (challenge-response), a callback. No matter

Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?)

2017-05-11 Thread Adam Goldberg
- Non-Commercial Discussion <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?) On Wednesday 10 May 2017, Steve Edwards wrote: > On Wed, 10 May 2017, J Montoya or A J Stiles wrote: > > Presumably your staff carry mobile phones. Wh

Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?)

2017-05-11 Thread J Montoya or A J Stiles
On Wednesday 10 May 2017, Steve Edwards wrote: > On Wed, 10 May 2017, J Montoya or A J Stiles wrote: > > Presumably your staff carry mobile phones. What about an app that gets > > the ID of the cell tower to which it is connected, and passes it and the > > SIM number in a HTTP request to a server

Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?)

2017-05-10 Thread Tim S
Rather than that, if you're looking for a phone solution - as part of the customer contract, install an IP phone that registers with your system (use a VPN tunnel to your phone system). Think of it like a "red-phone" hotline. You own the phone, and you physically install it and it only talks to

Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?)

2017-05-10 Thread D'Arcy Cain
On 2017-05-10 04:15 PM, Sebastian Nielsen wrote: The thing is then to be able to record which IP is the client, but if your services are ordered by the client via some web form, you could have that IP be recorded as "client IP" and the employee must check in/check out from that IP. IPs change.

Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?)

2017-05-10 Thread Sebastian Nielsen
Discussion' <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com> Ämne: Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?) It's probably not practical to have them answering the client's telephone! At a lot of sites, incoming calls would be handled by auto attendant, diverted to answering service, etc. --Don

Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?)

2017-05-10 Thread Don Kelly
...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Sebastian Nielsen Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 2:46 PM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?) Use a callback. So when clocking in/out, they will hear a random 4 digit PIN, like

Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?)

2017-05-10 Thread Sebastian Nielsen
sterisk-users@lists.digium.com> Ämne: Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?) On Wed, 10 May 2017, J Montoya or A J Stiles wrote: > Presumably your staff carry mobile phones. What about an app that > gets the ID of the cell tower to which it is connected, and passes it

Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?)

2017-05-10 Thread Steve Edwards
On Wed, 10 May 2017, J Montoya or A J Stiles wrote: Presumably your staff carry mobile phones. What about an app that gets the ID of the cell tower to which it is connected, and passes it and the SIM number in a HTTP request to a server you control? The problem is that they are supposed to

Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?)

2017-05-10 Thread Don Kelly
-Original Message- From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Steve Edwards Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 10:12 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List Subject: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?) I have a 'time

Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?)

2017-05-10 Thread J Montoya or A J Stiles
On Wednesday 10 May 2017, Steve Edwards wrote: > I have a 'time and attendance' application. Think janitorial or security > kind of thing where an employee goes from location to location. > > They're supposed to 'clock in' when they get to a site using a phone at > that site to prove they're

Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?)

2017-05-10 Thread Andrew Latham
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:11 AM, Steve Edwards wrote: > I have a 'time and attendance' application. Think janitorial or security > kind of thing where an employee goes from location to location. > > They're supposed to 'clock in' when they get to a site using a phone

Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?)

2017-05-10 Thread Adam Goldberg
] On Behalf Of Doug Lytle Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2017 11:24 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion <asterisk-users@lists.digium.com> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?) >>> I ask my SIP provider to include more headers to sh

Re: [asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?)

2017-05-10 Thread Doug Lytle
>>> I ask my SIP provider to include more headers to show the real ANI? What >>> would that service be >>> called? If it's anything like a PRI provider, I've been told they only way to get true CID, in those instances, would be to provide a 1-800 number (US) for them to call. Then you'd get

[asterisk-users] How to detect fake CallerID? (8xx?)

2017-05-10 Thread Steve Edwards
I have a 'time and attendance' application. Think janitorial or security kind of thing where an employee goes from location to location. They're supposed to 'clock in' when they get to a site using a phone at that site to prove they're there. Some employees have discovered 'fake caller ID'