Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between Application Set and Function SET?

[Richard Mudgett]

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Jonathan H  wrote:

> OK, thanks. That sort of makes sense. Is it case sensitive?
>

Is what case sensitive?  Function names are case sensitive.  Application
names have historically been not case sensitive.


>
> Bonus quickie while I'm here (not worth own thread) - Asterisklint
> complains that:
>
> H_PAT_NON_CANONICAL: pattern '_#' is not in the canonical form '#'
>
> for the line
>
> exten => _#,1,Goto(s,1)
>
> I'm sure I read somewhere it should be _#.
>
> Am I imagining it?!
>

You are declaring an extension line with a pattern but the pattern only has
literal characters so it really isn't a pattern.  It takes more CPU to match
than the non-pattern form and is more likely an error.

Richard

[1] https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Pattern+Matching
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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between Application Set and Function SET?

[Jonathan H]

OK, thanks. That sort of makes sense. Is it case sensitive?

Bonus quickie while I'm here (not worth own thread) - Asterisklint
complains that:

H_PAT_NON_CANONICAL: pattern '_#' is not in the canonical form '#'

for the line

exten => _#,1,Goto(s,1)

I'm sure I read somewhere it should be _#.

Am I imagining it?!

On 16 June 2017 at 19:17, Richard Kenner  wrote:
>> It was only when I ran AsteriskLint over my dialplan that I noticed this:
>>
>> https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+14+Application_Set
>> https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+14+Function_SET
>>
>> Hmmm, they both seem to do the same thing. Or don't they?
>
> In some sense they do, but one's an application, meaning that it's
> like a subprogram in a programming-language sense, and the other is a
> function, which returns a value.
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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between Application Set and Function SET?

[Richard Kenner]

> It was only when I ran AsteriskLint over my dialplan that I noticed this:
> 
> https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+14+Application_Set
> https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+14+Function_SET
> 
> Hmmm, they both seem to do the same thing. Or don't they?

In some sense they do, but one's an application, meaning that it's
like a subprogram in a programming-language sense, and the other is a
function, which returns a value.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between Application Set and Function SET?

[Richard Mudgett]

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 12:41 PM, Jonathan H  wrote:

> It was only when I ran AsteriskLint over my dialplan that I noticed this:
>
> https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+14+Application_Set
> https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Asterisk+14+Function_SET
>
> Hmmm, they both seem to do the same thing. Or don't they?
>

Yes they both do the same thing which is set a channel variable.  However,
when they can be invoked is different.  The Set application can only be
invoked in dialplan.  The SET function can be invoked anywhere a function
can be invoked and not just in dialplan.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference MySQL between 1.6.x and 11.4.x

[Ron Wheeler]

It looks like your database configuration is missing in Asterisk.

It is making up information about the connection using defaault values  
as if it did not find any database configuration.


Ron

On 03/06/2013 10:49 AM, Olivier CALVANO wrote:

Hi

i have installed a new Asterisk server on Fedora. My first server use 
Asterisk 1.6.x with a MySQL CDR and

realtime.

I have a small problems, when i configure on the new server, the same 
information in MySQL, we have a error:


[Jun  3 16:27:59] ERROR[3140] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: 
Failed to connect database server SSI on myhost.myserver.com 
http://myhost.myserver.com (err 2003). Check debug for more info.
[Jun  3 16:27:59] WARNING[3140] res_config_mysql.c: Table VoiceMail 
not found in database.  This table should exist if you're using realtime.
[Jun  3 16:27:59] ERROR[3140] cdr_mysql.c: Failed to connect to mysql 
database SSI on myhost.myserver.com http://myhost.myserver.com.
[Jun  3 16:30:14] ERROR[3220] cdr_mysql.c: Failed to connect to mysql 
database SSI on myhost.myserver.com http://myhost.myserver.com.
[Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No 
database user found, using 'asterisk' as default.
[Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No 
database password found, using 'asterisk' as default.
[Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No 
database host found, using localhost via socket.
[Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No 
database name found, using 'asterisk' as default.
[Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No 
database port found, using 3306 as default.
[Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No 
database socket found (and unable to detect a suitable path).


The exacly same config work on 1.6.x

and from the new server, the database access is Ok:

[root@voip-2 log]# !mys
mysql -h myhost.myserver.com http://myhost.myserver.com -u Asterisk 
-p SSI

Enter password:
Reading table information for completion of table and column names
You can turn off this feature to get a quicker startup with -A

Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
Your MySQL connection id is 5185
Server version: 5.1.42-log Mandriva Linux - MySQL Standard Edition (GPL)

Copyright (c) 2000, 2013, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights 
reserved.


Oracle is a registered trademark of Oracle Corporation and/or its
affiliates. Other names may be trademarks of their respective
owners.

Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the current input 
statement.


mysql select * from VoiceMail;
+--+-+--++--+--+---+---+-+++-+--++--+--+-+--+---++--+---++-+-+
| uniqueid | customer_id | context  | mailbox| password | 
fullname | email | pager | tz  | attach | 
saycid | dialout | callback | review | operator | envelope | 
sayduration | saydurationm | sendvoicemail | delete | nextaftercmd | 
forcename | forcegreetings | hidefromdir | stamp   |

+--+-+--++--+--+---+---+-+++-+--++--+--+-+--+---++--+---++-+-+
..


anyone know the problems ?

thanks
olivier




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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference MySQL between 1.6.x and 11.4.x

[Olivier CALVANO]

The database schema (table) is different in Asterisk 11.4 ?

because i have configured:

cdr_mysql.conf
extconfig.conf
res_config_mysql.conf

and on the mysql server, it's the old database of 1.6.x

i see:

[Jun  3 16:27:59] ERROR[3140] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: Failed to
connect database server xxx on xxx (err 2003). Check debug for more info.

can i put debug ? i don't know where

thanks
olivier




2013/6/3 Ron Wheeler rwhee...@artifact-software.com

  It looks like your database configuration is missing in Asterisk.

 It is making up information about the connection using defaault values  as
 if it did not find any database configuration.

 Ron


 On 03/06/2013 10:49 AM, Olivier CALVANO wrote:

Hi

  i have installed a new Asterisk server on Fedora. My first server use
 Asterisk 1.6.x with a MySQL CDR and
 realtime.

  I have a small problems, when i configure on the new server, the same
 information in MySQL, we have a error:

 [Jun  3 16:27:59] ERROR[3140] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: Failed
 to connect database server SSI on myhost.myserver.com (err 2003). Check
 debug for more info.
 [Jun  3 16:27:59] WARNING[3140] res_config_mysql.c: Table VoiceMail not
 found in database.  This table should exist if you're using realtime.
 [Jun  3 16:27:59] ERROR[3140] cdr_mysql.c: Failed to connect to mysql
 database SSI on myhost.myserver.com.
 [Jun  3 16:30:14] ERROR[3220] cdr_mysql.c: Failed to connect to mysql
 database SSI on myhost.myserver.com.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database user found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database password found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database host found, using localhost via socket.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database name found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database port found, using 3306 as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database socket found (and unable to detect a suitable path).

  The exacly same config work on 1.6.x

 and from the new server, the database access is Ok:

 [root@voip-2 log]# !mys
 mysql -h myhost.myserver.com -u Asterisk -p SSI
 Enter password:
 Reading table information for completion of table and column names
 You can turn off this feature to get a quicker startup with -A

 Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
 Your MySQL connection id is 5185
 Server version: 5.1.42-log Mandriva Linux - MySQL Standard Edition (GPL)

 Copyright (c) 2000, 2013, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights
 reserved.

 Oracle is a registered trademark of Oracle Corporation and/or its
 affiliates. Other names may be trademarks of their respective
 owners.

 Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the current input
 statement.

 mysql select * from VoiceMail;

 +--+-+--++--+--+---+---+-+++-+--++--+--+-+--+---++--+---++-+-+
 | uniqueid | customer_id | context  | mailbox| password |
 fullname | email | pager | tz  | attach | saycid |
 dialout | callback | review | operator | envelope | sayduration |
 saydurationm | sendvoicemail | delete | nextaftercmd | forcename |
 forcegreetings | hidefromdir | stamp   |

 +--+-+--++--+--+---+---+-+++-+--++--+--+-+--+---++--+---++-+-+
  ..


  anyone know the problems ?

 thanks
 olivier




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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference MySQL between 1.6.x and 11.4.x

[Olivier CALVANO]

Strange too, in the logs:


[Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
database user found, using 'asterisk' as default.
[Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
database password found, using 'asterisk' as default.
[Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
database host found, using localhost via socket.
[Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
database name found, using 'asterisk' as default.
[Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
database port found, using 3306 as default.
[Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
database socket found (and unable to detect a suitable path).
[Jun  3 17:09:49] NOTICE[3464] config.c: Registered Config Engine mysql
[Jun  3 17:09:49] ERROR[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: Failed to
connect database server SSI on  (err 2003). Check debug for more info.
[Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: Table Comptes_IAX not
found in database.  This table should exist if you're using realtime.


Hi said No database host found but in the log i have Failed to connect
database server SSI on  with SSI and  correct into my config file



2013/6/3 Olivier CALVANO o.calv...@gmail.com

 The database schema (table) is different in Asterisk 11.4 ?

 because i have configured:

 cdr_mysql.conf
 extconfig.conf
 res_config_mysql.conf

 and on the mysql server, it's the old database of 1.6.x

 i see:

 [Jun  3 16:27:59] ERROR[3140] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: Failed
 to connect database server xxx on xxx (err 2003). Check debug for more info.

 can i put debug ? i don't know where

 thanks
 olivier




 2013/6/3 Ron Wheeler rwhee...@artifact-software.com

  It looks like your database configuration is missing in Asterisk.

 It is making up information about the connection using defaault values
 as if it did not find any database configuration.

 Ron


 On 03/06/2013 10:49 AM, Olivier CALVANO wrote:

Hi

  i have installed a new Asterisk server on Fedora. My first server use
 Asterisk 1.6.x with a MySQL CDR and
 realtime.

  I have a small problems, when i configure on the new server, the same
 information in MySQL, we have a error:

 [Jun  3 16:27:59] ERROR[3140] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: Failed
 to connect database server SSI on myhost.myserver.com (err 2003). Check
 debug for more info.
 [Jun  3 16:27:59] WARNING[3140] res_config_mysql.c: Table VoiceMail not
 found in database.  This table should exist if you're using realtime.
 [Jun  3 16:27:59] ERROR[3140] cdr_mysql.c: Failed to connect to mysql
 database SSI on myhost.myserver.com.
 [Jun  3 16:30:14] ERROR[3220] cdr_mysql.c: Failed to connect to mysql
 database SSI on myhost.myserver.com.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database user found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database password found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database host found, using localhost via socket.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database name found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database port found, using 3306 as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database socket found (and unable to detect a suitable path).

  The exacly same config work on 1.6.x

 and from the new server, the database access is Ok:

 [root@voip-2 log]# !mys
 mysql -h myhost.myserver.com -u Asterisk -p SSI
 Enter password:
 Reading table information for completion of table and column names
 You can turn off this feature to get a quicker startup with -A

 Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
 Your MySQL connection id is 5185
 Server version: 5.1.42-log Mandriva Linux - MySQL Standard Edition (GPL)

 Copyright (c) 2000, 2013, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights
 reserved.

 Oracle is a registered trademark of Oracle Corporation and/or its
 affiliates. Other names may be trademarks of their respective
 owners.

 Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the current input
 statement.

 mysql select * from VoiceMail;

 +--+-+--++--+--+---+---+-+++-+--++--+--+-+--+---++--+---++-+-+
 | uniqueid | customer_id | context  | mailbox| password |
 fullname | email | pager | tz  | attach | saycid |
 dialout | callback | review | operator | envelope | sayduration |
 saydurationm | sendvoicemail | delete | nextaftercmd | 

Re: [asterisk-users] Difference MySQL between 1.6.x and 11.4.x

[Ron Wheeler]

Fix this.

[Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No 
database user found, using 'asterisk' as default.
[Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No 
database password found, using 'asterisk' as default.
[Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No 
database host found, using localhost via socket.
[Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No 
database name found, using 'asterisk' as default.
[Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No 
database port found, using 3306 as default.
[Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No 
database socket found (and unable to detect a suitable path).


Asterisk is telling you that you have not configured ANY database.

It is not worrying about what tables are in it because you have not even 
defined the database itself.
There is NO database at all so worrying about versions is not Asterisk's 
big problem..


The rest of the messages after that are a bit screwy because the 
routines producing the error are not aware that there is no database at 
all so they just complain about the piece that they know about.



Ron


On 03/06/2013 12:19 PM, Olivier CALVANO wrote:

No other idea ?




2013/6/3 Olivier CALVANO o.calv...@gmail.com 
mailto:o.calv...@gmail.com


Hi

i have installed a new Asterisk server on Fedora. My first server
use Asterisk 1.6.x with a MySQL CDR and
realtime.

I have a small problems, when i configure on the new server, the
same information in MySQL, we have a error:

[Jun  3 16:27:59] ERROR[3140] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime:
Failed to connect database server SSI on myhost.myserver.com
http://myhost.myserver.com (err 2003). Check debug for more info.
[Jun  3 16:27:59] WARNING[3140] res_config_mysql.c: Table
VoiceMail not found in database.  This table should exist if
you're using realtime.
[Jun  3 16:27:59] ERROR[3140] cdr_mysql.c: Failed to connect to
mysql database SSI on myhost.myserver.com
http://myhost.myserver.com.
[Jun  3 16:30:14] ERROR[3220] cdr_mysql.c: Failed to connect to
mysql database SSI on myhost.myserver.com
http://myhost.myserver.com.
[Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL
RealTime: No database user found, using 'asterisk' as default.
[Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL
RealTime: No database password found, using 'asterisk' as default.
[Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL
RealTime: No database host found, using localhost via socket.
[Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL
RealTime: No database name found, using 'asterisk' as default.
[Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL
RealTime: No database port found, using 3306 as default.
[Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL
RealTime: No database socket found (and unable to detect a
suitable path).

The exacly same config work on 1.6.x

and from the new server, the database access is Ok:

[root@voip-2 log]# !mys
mysql -h myhost.myserver.com http://myhost.myserver.com -u
Asterisk -p SSI
Enter password:
Reading table information for completion of table and column names
You can turn off this feature to get a quicker startup with -A

Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
Your MySQL connection id is 5185
Server version: 5.1.42-log Mandriva Linux - MySQL Standard Edition
(GPL)

Copyright (c) 2000, 2013, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights
reserved.

Oracle is a registered trademark of Oracle Corporation and/or its
affiliates. Other names may be trademarks of their respective
owners.

Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the current
input statement.

mysql select * from VoiceMail;

+--+-+--++--+--+---+---+-+++-+--++--+--+-+--+---++--+---++-+-+
| uniqueid | customer_id | context  | mailbox| password |
fullname | email | pager | tz  | attach |
saycid | dialout | callback | review | operator | envelope |
sayduration | saydurationm | sendvoicemail | delete | nextaftercmd
| forcename | forcegreetings | hidefromdir | stamp   |

+--+-+--++--+--+---+---+-+++-+--++--+--+-+--+---++--+---++-+-+
..

Re: [asterisk-users] Difference MySQL between 1.6.x and 11.4.x

[Olivier CALVANO]

No other idea ?




2013/6/3 Olivier CALVANO o.calv...@gmail.com

 Hi

 i have installed a new Asterisk server on Fedora. My first server use
 Asterisk 1.6.x with a MySQL CDR and
 realtime.

 I have a small problems, when i configure on the new server, the same
 information in MySQL, we have a error:

 [Jun  3 16:27:59] ERROR[3140] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: Failed
 to connect database server SSI on myhost.myserver.com (err 2003). Check
 debug for more info.
 [Jun  3 16:27:59] WARNING[3140] res_config_mysql.c: Table VoiceMail not
 found in database.  This table should exist if you're using realtime.
 [Jun  3 16:27:59] ERROR[3140] cdr_mysql.c: Failed to connect to mysql
 database SSI on myhost.myserver.com.
 [Jun  3 16:30:14] ERROR[3220] cdr_mysql.c: Failed to connect to mysql
 database SSI on myhost.myserver.com.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database user found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database password found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database host found, using localhost via socket.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database name found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database port found, using 3306 as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database socket found (and unable to detect a suitable path).

 The exacly same config work on 1.6.x

 and from the new server, the database access is Ok:

 [root@voip-2 log]# !mys
 mysql -h myhost.myserver.com -u Asterisk -p SSI
 Enter password:
 Reading table information for completion of table and column names
 You can turn off this feature to get a quicker startup with -A

 Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
 Your MySQL connection id is 5185
 Server version: 5.1.42-log Mandriva Linux - MySQL Standard Edition (GPL)

 Copyright (c) 2000, 2013, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights
 reserved.

 Oracle is a registered trademark of Oracle Corporation and/or its
 affiliates. Other names may be trademarks of their respective
 owners.

 Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the current input
 statement.

 mysql select * from VoiceMail;

 +--+-+--++--+--+---+---+-+++-+--++--+--+-+--+---++--+---++-+-+
 | uniqueid | customer_id | context  | mailbox| password |
 fullname | email | pager | tz  | attach | saycid |
 dialout | callback | review | operator | envelope | sayduration |
 saydurationm | sendvoicemail | delete | nextaftercmd | forcename |
 forcegreetings | hidefromdir | stamp   |

 +--+-+--++--+--+---+---+-+++-+--++--+--+-+--+---++--+---++-+-+
 ..


 anyone know the problems ?

 thanks
 olivier



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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference MySQL between 1.6.x and 11.4.x

[Olivier CALVANO]

Thanks for your help Ron,

Do you know where is the confirguration ?

Because i have put into res_config_mysql.conf:

[general]
dbhost = myhost.mydomain.net
dbname = MyDB
dbuser = MyUser
dbpass = MyPassword
dbport = 3306
dbsock = /tmp/mysql.sock
dbcharset = latin1
requirements = warn


after in extconfig.conf:
sipusers = mysql,general,Comptes_SIP
sippeers = mysql,general,Comptes_SIP
iaxusers = mysql,general,Comptes_IAX
iaxpeers = mysql,general,Comptes_IAX
extensions = mysql,general,Extensions
meetme = mysql,general,MeetMe
musiconhold = mysql,general,Musiconhold
voicemail = mysql,general,VoiceMail

and in cdr_mysql.conf

[global]
hostname=myhost.mydomain.net
dbname=MyDB
table=Cdr
password=MyPassword
user=MyUser
port=3306
sock=/tmp/mysql.sock

[aliases]
start=calldate
end=callend
callerid=clid
src=src
dst=dst
dcontext=dcontext
channel=channel
dstchannel=dstchannel
lastapp=lastapp
lastdata=lastdata
duration=duration
billsec=billsec
disposition=disposition
amaflags=amaflags
accountcode=accountcode
userfield=userfield
uniqueid=uniqueid
CodeTier=CodeTier



you know what file I forgot to configure?
Olivier












2013/6/3 Ron Wheeler rwhee...@artifact-software.com

  Fix this.

 [Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database user found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database password found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database host found, using localhost via socket.
 [Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database name found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database port found, using 3306 as default.
 [Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database socket found (and unable to detect a suitable path).

 Asterisk is telling you that you have not configured ANY database.

 It is not worrying about what tables are in it because you have not even
 defined the database itself.
 There is NO database at all so worrying about versions is not Asterisk's
 big problem..

 The rest of the messages after that are a bit screwy because the routines
 producing the error are not aware that there is no database at all so they
 just complain about the piece that they know about.


 Ron



 On 03/06/2013 12:19 PM, Olivier CALVANO wrote:

 No other idea ?




 2013/6/3 Olivier CALVANO o.calv...@gmail.com

Hi

  i have installed a new Asterisk server on Fedora. My first server use
 Asterisk 1.6.x with a MySQL CDR and
 realtime.

  I have a small problems, when i configure on the new server, the same
 information in MySQL, we have a error:

 [Jun  3 16:27:59] ERROR[3140] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: Failed
 to connect database server SSI on myhost.myserver.com (err 2003). Check
 debug for more info.
 [Jun  3 16:27:59] WARNING[3140] res_config_mysql.c: Table VoiceMail not
 found in database.  This table should exist if you're using realtime.
 [Jun  3 16:27:59] ERROR[3140] cdr_mysql.c: Failed to connect to mysql
 database SSI on myhost.myserver.com.
 [Jun  3 16:30:14] ERROR[3220] cdr_mysql.c: Failed to connect to mysql
 database SSI on myhost.myserver.com.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database user found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database password found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database host found, using localhost via socket.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database name found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database port found, using 3306 as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database socket found (and unable to detect a suitable path).

  The exacly same config work on 1.6.x

 and from the new server, the database access is Ok:

 [root@voip-2 log]# !mys
 mysql -h myhost.myserver.com -u Asterisk -p SSI
 Enter password:
 Reading table information for completion of table and column names
 You can turn off this feature to get a quicker startup with -A

 Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
 Your MySQL connection id is 5185
 Server version: 5.1.42-log Mandriva Linux - MySQL Standard Edition (GPL)

 Copyright (c) 2000, 2013, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights
 reserved.

 Oracle is a registered trademark of Oracle Corporation and/or its
 affiliates. Other names may be trademarks of their respective
 owners.

 Type 'help;' or '\h' for help. Type '\c' to clear the current input
 statement.

 mysql select * from VoiceMail;

 

Re: [asterisk-users] Difference MySQL between 1.6.x and 11.4.x

[Bakko]

Hello,

are you sure MySQL socket is in /tmp directory?

dbsock = /tmp/mysql.sock

Regards

El 03/06/2013 12:16, Olivier CALVANO escribió:

Thanks for your help Ron,

Do you know where is the confirguration ?

Because i have put into res_config_mysql.conf:

[general]
dbhost = myhost.mydomain.net http://myhost.mydomain.net
dbname = MyDB
dbuser = MyUser
dbpass = MyPassword
dbport = 3306
dbsock = /tmp/mysql.sock
dbcharset = latin1
requirements = warn


after in extconfig.conf:
sipusers = mysql,general,Comptes_SIP
sippeers = mysql,general,Comptes_SIP
iaxusers = mysql,general,Comptes_IAX
iaxpeers = mysql,general,Comptes_IAX
extensions = mysql,general,Extensions
meetme = mysql,general,MeetMe
musiconhold = mysql,general,Musiconhold
voicemail = mysql,general,VoiceMail

and in cdr_mysql.conf

[global]
hostname=myhost.mydomain.net http://myhost.mydomain.net
dbname=MyDB
table=Cdr
password=MyPassword
user=MyUser
port=3306
sock=/tmp/mysql.sock

[aliases]
start=calldate
end=callend
callerid=clid
src=src
dst=dst
dcontext=dcontext
channel=channel
dstchannel=dstchannel
lastapp=lastapp
lastdata=lastdata
duration=duration
billsec=billsec
disposition=disposition
amaflags=amaflags
accountcode=accountcode
userfield=userfield
uniqueid=uniqueid
CodeTier=CodeTier



you know what file I forgot to configure?
Olivier












2013/6/3 Ron Wheeler rwhee...@artifact-software.com 
mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com


Fix this.

[Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL
RealTime: No database user found, using 'asterisk' as default.
[Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL
RealTime: No database password found, using 'asterisk' as default.
[Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL
RealTime: No database host found, using localhost via socket.
[Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL
RealTime: No database name found, using 'asterisk' as default.
[Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL
RealTime: No database port found, using 3306 as default.
[Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL
RealTime: No database socket found (and unable to detect a
suitable path).

Asterisk is telling you that you have not configured ANY database.

It is not worrying about what tables are in it because you have
not even defined the database itself.
There is NO database at all so worrying about versions is not
Asterisk's big problem..

The rest of the messages after that are a bit screwy because the
routines producing the error are not aware that there is no
database at all so they just complain about the piece that they
know about.


Ron



On 03/06/2013 12:19 PM, Olivier CALVANO wrote:

No other idea ?




2013/6/3 Olivier CALVANO o.calv...@gmail.com
mailto:o.calv...@gmail.com

Hi

i have installed a new Asterisk server on Fedora. My first
server use Asterisk 1.6.x with a MySQL CDR and
realtime.

I have a small problems, when i configure on the new server,
the same information in MySQL, we have a error:

[Jun  3 16:27:59] ERROR[3140] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL
RealTime: Failed to connect database server SSI on
myhost.myserver.com http://myhost.myserver.com (err 2003).
Check debug for more info.
[Jun  3 16:27:59] WARNING[3140] res_config_mysql.c: Table
VoiceMail not found in database.  This table should exist if
you're using realtime.
[Jun  3 16:27:59] ERROR[3140] cdr_mysql.c: Failed to connect
to mysql database SSI on myhost.myserver.com
http://myhost.myserver.com.
[Jun  3 16:30:14] ERROR[3220] cdr_mysql.c: Failed to connect
to mysql database SSI on myhost.myserver.com
http://myhost.myserver.com.
[Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL
RealTime: No database user found, using 'asterisk' as default.
[Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL
RealTime: No database password found, using 'asterisk' as
default.
[Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL
RealTime: No database host found, using localhost via socket.
[Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL
RealTime: No database name found, using 'asterisk' as default.
[Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL
RealTime: No database port found, using 3306 as default.
[Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL
RealTime: No database socket found (and unable to detect a
suitable path).

The exacly same config work on 1.6.x

and from the new server, the database access is Ok:

[root@voip-2 log]# !mys
mysql -h myhost.myserver.com http://myhost.myserver.com -u
Asterisk -p SSI
Enter password:
Reading table 

Re: [asterisk-users] Difference MySQL between 1.6.x and 11.4.x

[Olivier CALVANO]

on this server we don't have mysql.socket because he don't have mysql server

we want access to a mysql based on a other server




2013/6/3 Bakko asannu...@gmail.com

  Hello,

 are you sure MySQL socket is in /tmp directory?

 dbsock = /tmp/mysql.sock

 Regards

 El 03/06/2013 12:16, Olivier CALVANO escribió:

   Thanks for your help Ron,

 Do you know where is the confirguration ?

  Because i have put into res_config_mysql.conf:

 [general]
 dbhost = myhost.mydomain.net
 dbname = MyDB
 dbuser = MyUser
 dbpass = MyPassword
 dbport = 3306
 dbsock = /tmp/mysql.sock
 dbcharset = latin1
 requirements = warn


  after in extconfig.conf:
 sipusers = mysql,general,Comptes_SIP
 sippeers = mysql,general,Comptes_SIP
 iaxusers = mysql,general,Comptes_IAX
 iaxpeers = mysql,general,Comptes_IAX
 extensions = mysql,general,Extensions
 meetme = mysql,general,MeetMe
 musiconhold = mysql,general,Musiconhold
 voicemail = mysql,general,VoiceMail

  and in cdr_mysql.conf

 [global]
 hostname=myhost.mydomain.net
 dbname=MyDB
 table=Cdr
 password=MyPassword
 user=MyUser
 port=3306
 sock=/tmp/mysql.sock

 [aliases]
 start=calldate
 end=callend
 callerid=clid
 src=src
 dst=dst
 dcontext=dcontext
 channel=channel
 dstchannel=dstchannel
 lastapp=lastapp
 lastdata=lastdata
 duration=duration
 billsec=billsec
 disposition=disposition
 amaflags=amaflags
 accountcode=accountcode
 userfield=userfield
 uniqueid=uniqueid
 CodeTier=CodeTier



 you know what file I forgot to configure?
  Olivier












 2013/6/3 Ron Wheeler rwhee...@artifact-software.com

  Fix this.

 [Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database user found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database password found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database host found, using localhost via socket.
 [Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database name found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database port found, using 3306 as default.
 [Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database socket found (and unable to detect a suitable path).

 Asterisk is telling you that you have not configured ANY database.

 It is not worrying about what tables are in it because you have not even
 defined the database itself.
 There is NO database at all so worrying about versions is not Asterisk's
 big problem..

 The rest of the messages after that are a bit screwy because the routines
 producing the error are not aware that there is no database at all so they
 just complain about the piece that they know about.


 Ron



 On 03/06/2013 12:19 PM, Olivier CALVANO wrote:

  No other idea ?




 2013/6/3 Olivier CALVANO o.calv...@gmail.com

Hi

  i have installed a new Asterisk server on Fedora. My first server use
 Asterisk 1.6.x with a MySQL CDR and
 realtime.

  I have a small problems, when i configure on the new server, the same
 information in MySQL, we have a error:

 [Jun  3 16:27:59] ERROR[3140] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: Failed
 to connect database server SSI on myhost.myserver.com (err 2003). Check
 debug for more info.
 [Jun  3 16:27:59] WARNING[3140] res_config_mysql.c: Table VoiceMail not
 found in database.  This table should exist if you're using realtime.
 [Jun  3 16:27:59] ERROR[3140] cdr_mysql.c: Failed to connect to mysql
 database SSI on myhost.myserver.com.
 [Jun  3 16:30:14] ERROR[3220] cdr_mysql.c: Failed to connect to mysql
 database SSI on myhost.myserver.com.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database user found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database password found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database host found, using localhost via socket.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database name found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database port found, using 3306 as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database socket found (and unable to detect a suitable path).

  The exacly same config work on 1.6.x

 and from the new server, the database access is Ok:

 [root@voip-2 log]# !mys
 mysql -h myhost.myserver.com -u Asterisk -p SSI
 Enter password:
 Reading table information for completion of table and column names
 You can turn off this feature to get a quicker startup with -A

 Welcome to the MySQL monitor.  Commands end with ; or \g.
 Your MySQL connection id is 5185
 Server version: 5.1.42-log Mandriva Linux - MySQL Standard Edition (GPL)

 Copyright (c) 2000, 2013, Oracle and/or its affiliates. All rights
 

Re: [asterisk-users] Difference MySQL between 1.6.x and 11.4.x

[Asghar Mohammad]

asterisk trying connect to mysql via socket remove that line from config
files.
1 check if port 3306 is open in iptables on both servers.
2 check permissions on db for user Asterisk.


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Olivier CALVANO o.calv...@gmail.com wrote:

 on this server we don't have mysql.socket because he don't have mysql
 server

 we want access to a mysql based on a other server




 2013/6/3 Bakko asannu...@gmail.com

  Hello,

 are you sure MySQL socket is in /tmp directory?

 dbsock = /tmp/mysql.sock

 Regards

 El 03/06/2013 12:16, Olivier CALVANO escribió:

   Thanks for your help Ron,

 Do you know where is the confirguration ?

  Because i have put into res_config_mysql.conf:

 [general]
 dbhost = myhost.mydomain.net
 dbname = MyDB
 dbuser = MyUser
 dbpass = MyPassword
 dbport = 3306
 dbsock = /tmp/mysql.sock
 dbcharset = latin1
 requirements = warn


  after in extconfig.conf:
 sipusers = mysql,general,Comptes_SIP
 sippeers = mysql,general,Comptes_SIP
 iaxusers = mysql,general,Comptes_IAX
 iaxpeers = mysql,general,Comptes_IAX
 extensions = mysql,general,Extensions
 meetme = mysql,general,MeetMe
 musiconhold = mysql,general,Musiconhold
 voicemail = mysql,general,VoiceMail

  and in cdr_mysql.conf

 [global]
 hostname=myhost.mydomain.net
 dbname=MyDB
 table=Cdr
 password=MyPassword
 user=MyUser
 port=3306
 sock=/tmp/mysql.sock

 [aliases]
 start=calldate
 end=callend
 callerid=clid
 src=src
 dst=dst
 dcontext=dcontext
 channel=channel
 dstchannel=dstchannel
 lastapp=lastapp
 lastdata=lastdata
 duration=duration
 billsec=billsec
 disposition=disposition
 amaflags=amaflags
 accountcode=accountcode
 userfield=userfield
 uniqueid=uniqueid
 CodeTier=CodeTier



 you know what file I forgot to configure?
  Olivier












 2013/6/3 Ron Wheeler rwhee...@artifact-software.com

  Fix this.

 [Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database user found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database password found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database host found, using localhost via socket.
 [Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database name found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database port found, using 3306 as default.
 [Jun  3 17:09:49] WARNING[3464] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database socket found (and unable to detect a suitable path).

 Asterisk is telling you that you have not configured ANY database.

 It is not worrying about what tables are in it because you have not even
 defined the database itself.
 There is NO database at all so worrying about versions is not Asterisk's
 big problem..

 The rest of the messages after that are a bit screwy because the
 routines producing the error are not aware that there is no database at all
 so they just complain about the piece that they know about.


 Ron



 On 03/06/2013 12:19 PM, Olivier CALVANO wrote:

  No other idea ?




 2013/6/3 Olivier CALVANO o.calv...@gmail.com

Hi

  i have installed a new Asterisk server on Fedora. My first server use
 Asterisk 1.6.x with a MySQL CDR and
 realtime.

  I have a small problems, when i configure on the new server, the same
 information in MySQL, we have a error:

 [Jun  3 16:27:59] ERROR[3140] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime:
 Failed to connect database server SSI on myhost.myserver.com (err
 2003). Check debug for more info.
 [Jun  3 16:27:59] WARNING[3140] res_config_mysql.c: Table VoiceMail not
 found in database.  This table should exist if you're using realtime.
 [Jun  3 16:27:59] ERROR[3140] cdr_mysql.c: Failed to connect to mysql
 database SSI on myhost.myserver.com.
 [Jun  3 16:30:14] ERROR[3220] cdr_mysql.c: Failed to connect to mysql
 database SSI on myhost.myserver.com.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database user found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database password found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database host found, using localhost via socket.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database name found, using 'asterisk' as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database port found, using 3306 as default.
 [Jun  3 16:30:34] WARNING[3220] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: No
 database socket found (and unable to detect a suitable path).

  The exacly same config work on 1.6.x

 and from the new server, the database access is Ok:

 [root@voip-2 log]# !mys
 mysql -h myhost.myserver.com -u Asterisk -p SSI
 Enter password:
 Reading table information for completion of table and column names
 You can turn off this feature to get a 

Re: [asterisk-users] Difference MySQL between 1.6.x and 11.4.x

[Ron Wheeler]

Do you have this problem in your conf file?

http://forums.digium.com/viewtopic.php?p=63736

The parser won't accept an ; (semicolon) for remarks! So he found at 
the first the old remarks and tried to access my database with the false 
data.





Ron

On 03/06/2013 3:18 PM, Olivier CALVANO wrote:
on this server we don't have mysql.socket because he don't have mysql 
server


we want access to a mysql based on a other server




2013/6/3 Bakko asannu...@gmail.com mailto:asannu...@gmail.com

Hello,

are you sure MySQL socket is in /tmp directory?

dbsock = /tmp/mysql.sock

Regards

El 03/06/2013 12:16, Olivier CALVANO escribió:

Thanks for your help Ron,

Do you know where is the confirguration ?

Because i have put into res_config_mysql.conf:

[general]
dbhost = myhost.mydomain.net http://myhost.mydomain.net
dbname = MyDB
dbuser = MyUser
dbpass = MyPassword
dbport = 3306
dbsock = /tmp/mysql.sock
dbcharset = latin1
requirements = warn



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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference MySQL between 1.6.x and 11.4.x

[Olivier CALVANO]

oh ron thanks for your help :

We have deleted all commented line, only put the configuration and now
that's work !




2013/6/3 Ron Wheeler rwhee...@artifact-software.com

  Do you have this problem in your conf file?

 http://forums.digium.com/viewtopic.php?p=63736

 The parser won't accept an ; (semicolon) for remarks! So he found at the
 first the old remarks and tried to access my database with the false data.




 Ron


 On 03/06/2013 3:18 PM, Olivier CALVANO wrote:

  on this server we don't have mysql.socket because he don't have mysql
 server

  we want access to a mysql based on a other server




  2013/6/3 Bakko asannu...@gmail.com

  Hello,

 are you sure MySQL socket is in /tmp directory?

 dbsock = /tmp/mysql.sock

 Regards

 El 03/06/2013 12:16, Olivier CALVANO escribió:

   Thanks for your help Ron,

 Do you know where is the confirguration ?

  Because i have put into res_config_mysql.conf:

 [general]
 dbhost = myhost.mydomain.net
 dbname = MyDB
 dbuser = MyUser
 dbpass = MyPassword
 dbport = 3306
 dbsock = /tmp/mysql.sock
 dbcharset = latin1
 requirements = warn


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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference MySQL between 1.6.x and 11.4.x

[Olivier CALVANO]

grrr no in asterisk -d i have no error, but when i start normaly asterisk i
have :

[Jun  4 02:01:45] ERROR[6563] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: Failed to
connect database server xxx on xxx.xxx.net (err 2003). Check debug for more
info.
[Jun  4 02:01:45] ERROR[6563] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: Failed to
connect database server xxx on xxx.xxx.net (err 2003). Check debug for more
info.


what is the command in asterisk for i see the SQL query ?




2013/6/4 Olivier CALVANO o.calv...@gmail.com

 oh ron thanks for your help :

 We have deleted all commented line, only put the configuration and now
 that's work !




 2013/6/3 Ron Wheeler rwhee...@artifact-software.com

  Do you have this problem in your conf file?

 http://forums.digium.com/viewtopic.php?p=63736

 The parser won't accept an ; (semicolon) for remarks! So he found at
 the first the old remarks and tried to access my database with the false
 data.




 Ron


 On 03/06/2013 3:18 PM, Olivier CALVANO wrote:

  on this server we don't have mysql.socket because he don't have mysql
 server

  we want access to a mysql based on a other server




  2013/6/3 Bakko asannu...@gmail.com

  Hello,

 are you sure MySQL socket is in /tmp directory?

 dbsock = /tmp/mysql.sock

 Regards

 El 03/06/2013 12:16, Olivier CALVANO escribió:

   Thanks for your help Ron,

 Do you know where is the confirguration ?

  Because i have put into res_config_mysql.conf:

 [general]
 dbhost = myhost.mydomain.net
 dbname = MyDB
 dbuser = MyUser
 dbpass = MyPassword
 dbport = 3306
 dbsock = /tmp/mysql.sock
 dbcharset = latin1
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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference MySQL between 1.6.x and 11.4.x

[Ron Wheeler]

Well, at least you are making progress.
What is the error in the debug log?

Ron


On 03/06/2013 8:03 PM, Olivier CALVANO wrote:
grrr no in asterisk -d i have no error, but when i start normaly 
asterisk i have :


[Jun  4 02:01:45] ERROR[6563] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: 
Failed to connect database server xxx on xxx.xxx.net 
http://xxx.xxx.net (err 2003). Check debug for more info.
[Jun  4 02:01:45] ERROR[6563] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: 
Failed to connect database server xxx on xxx.xxx.net 
http://xxx.xxx.net (err 2003). Check debug for more info.



what is the command in asterisk for i see the SQL query ?




2013/6/4 Olivier CALVANO o.calv...@gmail.com 
mailto:o.calv...@gmail.com


oh ron thanks for your help :

We have deleted all commented line, only put the configuration and
now that's work !




2013/6/3 Ron Wheeler rwhee...@artifact-software.com
mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com

Do you have this problem in your conf file?

http://forums.digium.com/viewtopic.php?p=63736

The parser won't accept an ; (semicolon) for remarks! So he
found at the first the old remarks and tried to access my
database with the false data.




Ron


On 03/06/2013 3:18 PM, Olivier CALVANO wrote:

on this server we don't have mysql.socket because he don't
have mysql server

we want access to a mysql based on a other server




2013/6/3 Bakko asannu...@gmail.com mailto:asannu...@gmail.com

Hello,

are you sure MySQL socket is in /tmp directory?

dbsock = /tmp/mysql.sock

Regards

El 03/06/2013 12:16, Olivier CALVANO escribió:

Thanks for your help Ron,

Do you know where is the confirguration ?

Because i have put into res_config_mysql.conf:

[general]
dbhost = myhost.mydomain.net http://myhost.mydomain.net
dbname = MyDB
dbuser = MyUser
dbpass = MyPassword
dbport = 3306
dbsock = /tmp/mysql.sock
dbcharset = latin1
requirements = warn



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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference MySQL between 1.6.x and 11.4.x

[Olivier CALVANO]

What is the best commande for put the debug ? because with core set debug,
i don't have a return.


voip-2*CLI realtime mysql status
Vop configured for m...@myhost.mydomain.net, port 3306 with username
Asterisk.
[Jun  4 06:48:25] ERROR[27879]: res_config_mysql.c:1577 mysql_reconnect:
MySQL RealTime: Failed to connect database server Vop on
vop.phibee-telecom.net (err 2003). Check debug for more info.

He read correctly the config because it's the good DB, Server and username


in /var/log/asterisk/message i have:

[Jun  4 06:46:21] Asterisk 11.4.0 built by mockbuild @
buildvm-12.phx2.fedoraproject.org on a x86_64 running Linux on 2013-05-20
15:47:05 UTC
[Jun  4 06:46:21] NOTICE[27825] loader.c: 1 modules will be loaded.
[Jun  4 06:46:21] NOTICE[27825] config.c: Registered Config Engine mysql
[Jun  4 06:46:21] NOTICE[27825] cdr.c: CDR simple logging enabled.
[Jun  4 06:46:21] NOTICE[27825] loader.c: 192 modules will be loaded.
[Jun  4 06:46:21] NOTICE[27825] res_smdi.c: No SMDI interfaces are
available to listen on, not starting SMDI listener.
[Jun  4 06:46:21] WARNING[27825] res_musiconhold.c: No music on hold
classes configured, disabling music on hold.
[Jun  4 06:46:21] ERROR[27825] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: Failed
to connect database server MyDB on
MyHost.MyDomain.nethttp://myhost.mydomain.net/(err 2003). Check
debug for more info.
[Jun  4 06:46:21] WARNING[27825] res_config_mysql.c: Table Comptes_IAX not
found in database.  This table should exist if you're using realtime.
[Jun  4 06:46:21] ERROR[27825] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: Failed
to connect database server MyDB on
MyHost.MyDomain.nethttp://myhost.mydomain.net/(err 2003). Check
debug for more info.
[Jun  4 06:46:21] ERROR[27825] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: Failed
to connect database server MyDB on
MyHost.MyDomain.nethttp://myhost.mydomain.net/(err 2003). Check
debug for more info.
[Jun  4 06:46:21] WARNING[27825] res_config_mysql.c: Table Comptes_SIP not
found in database.  This table should exist if you're using realtime.
[Jun  4 06:46:21] NOTICE[27825] confbridge/conf_config_parser.c: Adding
default_user profile to app_confbridge
[Jun  4 06:46:21] NOTICE[27825] pbx_ael.c: Starting AEL load process.
[Jun  4 06:46:21] NOTICE[27825] pbx_ael.c: AEL load process: parsed config
file name '/etc/asterisk/extensions.ael'.
[Jun  4 06:46:21] NOTICE[27825] pbx_ael.c: AEL load process: checked config
file name '/etc/asterisk/extensions.ael'.
[Jun  4 06:46:21] NOTICE[27825] pbx_ael.c: AEL load process: compiled
config file name '/etc/asterisk/extensions.ael'.
[Jun  4 06:46:21] NOTICE[27825] pbx_ael.c: AEL load process: merged config
file name '/etc/asterisk/extensions.ael'.
[Jun  4 06:46:21] NOTICE[27825] pbx_ael.c: AEL load process: verified
config file name '/etc/asterisk/extensions.ael'.
[Jun  4 06:46:22] ERROR[27825] cdr_mysql.c: Failed to connect to mysql
database MyDB on MyHost.MyDomain.net http://myhost.mydomain.net/.
[Jun  4 06:47:51] ERROR[27879] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: Failed
to connect database server MyDB on
MyHost.MyDomain.nethttp://myhost.mydomain.net/(err 2003). Check
debug for more info.
[Jun  4 06:48:25] ERROR[27879] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: Failed
to connect database server MyDB on
MyHost.MyDomain.nethttp://myhost.mydomain.net/(err 2003). Check
debug for more info.

Asterisk have the good information, but i don't understand why he can't
connect to the DB, if i use:
mysql -h MyHost.MyDomain.net http://myhost.mydomain.net/ -u Aserisk -p
MyDB
i have a full access to my MySQL server.

may be missing in a Fedora package ?


2013/6/4 Ron Wheeler rwhee...@artifact-software.com

  Well, at least you are making progress.
 What is the error in the debug log?

 Ron



 On 03/06/2013 8:03 PM, Olivier CALVANO wrote:

  grrr no in asterisk -d i have no error, but when i start normaly
 asterisk i have :

 [Jun  4 02:01:45] ERROR[6563] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: Failed
 to connect database server xxx on xxx.xxx.net (err 2003). Check debug for
 more info.
 [Jun  4 02:01:45] ERROR[6563] res_config_mysql.c: MySQL RealTime: Failed
 to connect database server xxx on xxx.xxx.net (err 2003). Check debug for
 more info.


  what is the command in asterisk for i see the SQL query ?




 2013/6/4 Olivier CALVANO o.calv...@gmail.com

  oh ron thanks for your help :

  We have deleted all commented line, only put the configuration and now
 that's work !




  2013/6/3 Ron Wheeler rwhee...@artifact-software.com

   Do you have this problem in your conf file?

 http://forums.digium.com/viewtopic.php?p=63736

 The parser won't accept an ; (semicolon) for remarks! So he found at
 the first the old remarks and tried to access my database with the false
 data.




 Ron


 On 03/06/2013 3:18 PM, Olivier CALVANO wrote:

  on this server we don't have mysql.socket because he don't have mysql
 server

  we want access to a mysql based on a other server




  2013/6/3 Bakko asannu...@gmail.com

  Hello,

 are you sure 

Re: [asterisk-users] difference between playback and background?

[Kingsley Tart]

Alternatively, if you don't have that extension defined anywhere,
Asterisk will jump to the i extension, where you can then read the
actual entered digits from the INVALID_EXTEN variable and jump back to
the main part of the dialplan.

Note that if they enter digits that *could* match a defined extension,
Asterisk won't necessarily jump to the i extension until more digits are
entered which may or may not cause no explicitly defined extensions to
be matched.

Cheers,
Kingsley.

On Mon, 2011-11-21 at 12:32 -0800, Steve Edwards wrote:
 On Mon, 21 Nov 2011, Danny Nicholas wrote:
 
  Option 2
  Use WaitExten with Background
  [getnum]
  Exten = start,1,background(prompt)
  Exten = start,n,waitexten(2)
  Exten = ,1,noop(user pressed )
  Exten = I,1,playback(invalid)
 
  For option 2 you have to define each valid 4 digit entry in the context.
 
 Or, (since the OP seems a bit newbish), read up on extension pattern 
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Re: [asterisk-users] difference between playback and background?

[Carlos Alvarez]

It sounds like you may want to use the READ command instead.  This lets you
hard-set the number of digits to expect and then sets a variable which you
can use later in the dialplan.  Generally you use the background command to
let them dial an extension or automated attendant option.  Playback plays
without the option to interrupt it.


On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Edward de Jong 
edward.dej...@voicecarrier.com wrote:

 In the dial plan language of asterisk, what is the difference between
 prompting the user with a Playback() command vs. a Background() command? I
 want in a part of my dial plan to ask the user a prompt, and wait for 4
 digits to be typed in. I don't want the user to have to end the string with
 a pound or something, just wait 2 seconds after they stop typing. ANd I do
 want the prompt to be interruptible if the user is fast and knows already
 what to do…

 I need to do some tests on the number they entered. If i use background(),
 and say the prompt, and then follow with a WAIT command, how do i reference
 the number they just typed in? does asterisk set the ${EXTEN} variable when
 the user types something?

 What I find maddening about the asterisk documentation is a lack of
 clarity on the sequence of things, and what variables get set when?


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Re: [asterisk-users] difference between playback and background?

[Danny Nicholas]

First question - playback is not interruptable by DTMF, background is.
You have two options here
Option 1
Use Read
[getnum]
Exten = start,1,read(mydigit,prompt,4,skip,1,2)
.. verification stuff

Option 2 
Use WaitExten with Background
[getnum]
Exten = start,1,background(prompt)
Exten = start,n,waitexten(2)
Exten = ,1,noop(user pressed )
Exten = I,1,playback(invalid)

For option 2 you have to define each valid 4 digit entry in the context.

Yes it can be maddening, but you get what you pay for.

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From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Edward de Jong
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 11:51 AM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-users] difference between playback and background?

In the dial plan language of asterisk, what is the difference between
prompting the user with a Playback() command vs. a Background() command? I
want in a part of my dial plan to ask the user a prompt, and wait for 4
digits to be typed in. I don't want the user to have to end the string with
a pound or something, just wait 2 seconds after they stop typing. ANd I do
want the prompt to be interruptible if the user is fast and knows already
what to do. 

I need to do some tests on the number they entered. If i use background(),
and say the prompt, and then follow with a WAIT command, how do i reference
the number they just typed in? does asterisk set the ${EXTEN} variable when
the user types something?

What I find maddening about the asterisk documentation is a lack of clarity
on the sequence of things, and what variables get set when?


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Re: [asterisk-users] difference between playback and background?

[Steve Edwards]

On Mon, 21 Nov 2011, Danny Nicholas wrote:


Option 2
Use WaitExten with Background
[getnum]
Exten = start,1,background(prompt)
Exten = start,n,waitexten(2)
Exten = ,1,noop(user pressed )
Exten = I,1,playback(invalid)

For option 2 you have to define each valid 4 digit entry in the context.


Or, (since the OP seems a bit newbish), read up on extension pattern 
matching.


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Re: [asterisk-users] difference between SIP peer and SIP user ?

[virendra bhati]

Hi James,

Thanks I give me the clear view and now I am able to describe that. again
thank a lot 

2011/5/23 James zhu zhulizh...@live.com

  hello:
 please refer this link:
 http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+user+vs+peer

 Best regards,
 James.zhu
 Doing asterisk/PRI/ss7/dahdi, linux, asterisk cards,
 gateway(fxs/fxo/pri-SIP).
 website: www.voipviews.com




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 From: virbh...@gmail.com
 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: [asterisk-users] difference between SIP peer and SIP user ?


 Hi list,

 I am confuse about these CLI commands
 *sip show users
 sip show peers*

 Can someone clear my doubt . what are the difference between them?

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Re: [asterisk-users] difference between SIP peer and SIP user ?

[virendra bhati]

Hi James,

My question was related to CLI commands not sip.conf type
value(friends,peer,user)
main question was difference below commands
*sip show peers* Vs *sip show user*



On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 1:28 PM, virendra bhati virbh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi James,

 Thanks I give me the clear view and now I am able to describe that. again
 thank a lot 

 2011/5/23 James zhu zhulizh...@live.com

  hello:
 please refer this link:
 http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+user+vs+peer

 Best regards,
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 Doing asterisk/PRI/ss7/dahdi, linux, asterisk cards,
 gateway(fxs/fxo/pri-SIP).
 website: www.voipviews.com




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 To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Subject: [asterisk-users] difference between SIP peer and SIP user ?


 Hi list,

 I am confuse about these CLI commands
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 sip show peers*

 Can someone clear my doubt . what are the difference between them?

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Re: [asterisk-users] difference between SIP peer and SIP user ?

[James zhu]

hello:
please refer this link:
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+user+vs+peer

Best regards,
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website: www.voipviews.com 




Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 17:49:37 +0530
From: virbh...@gmail.com
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-users] difference between SIP peer and SIP user ?

Hi list,

I am confuse about these CLI commands 
sip show users
sip show peers
Can someone clear my doubt . what are the difference between them?  


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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference

[Rizwan Hisham]

Thanks for sharing all of your thoughts and information. If anyone knows a
good article about asterisk 1.8 then please let me know about it. I have
read the presentation by Kevin Fleming but more information is always good.

Cheers

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Miguel Molina mmol...@millenium.com.cowrote:

  I find 1.6.2.13 version is stable for trunk call routing, and it should be
 too for basic call center use. The asterisk team has made some architectural
 improvements (moving to astobj2 a lot of internal structures, and much more
 you may not see from a user perspective) but given the several environment
 and different use cases, fear to upgrade or proven 1.4 stability for the
 job, the people usually don't upgrade or make it slowly with a lot of
 previous tests before making the jump.

 If you use FAX, I recommend you 1.6.2 or later. The app_fax module is far
 better than the ast-agx-addons for 1.4.

 The good old (now unsupported) 1.2 works for many people, ask Steve.

 So it's up to you.

 Cheers,

 --
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 Millenium Phone Center

 El 06/10/10 11:04, Zeeshan Zakaria escribió:

 For a production environment, 1.4 is the most stable, and it has everything
 one needs to setup a telecom platform. As per my understanding 1.6 never got
 the same recognition for stability as 1.4, plus it doesn't have any
 significant advantages over 1.4. The newer version 1.8 series might be my
 next jump once it'll be out of beta, but at this time it should not be used
 in a production environment. Many of us still use 1.4 in production and if
 you are just starting, this'll be your best choice.

 Zeeshan A Zakaria

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 asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Be...

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 asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Rizwan Hisham
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:44 AM


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 Is there any major architectural difference between 1.4 and 1.8?

 The dialplan uses the 1.6 nomenclature (delimiter in dialplan changes from
 , to |) and the AGI structure is enhanced.  If you don’t use AGI’s, a
 qualified “not really”.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference

[Danny Nicholas]

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Hi All,
Please can anyone tell me the difference between 1.4, 1.6 and 1.8 asterisk
versions.

Thanks

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In a nutshell, 1.4 is the oldest and most stable, 1.6 is the current and 1.8
is the beta version of Asterisk.  This is a gross over-simplification, but
if you know nothing, 1.4 is going to give you the fewest headaches and if
you have to have the latest 1.6 or 1.8 is the way to go.  The ChangeLogs
on Asterisk.org will give you a detailed difference.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference

[Rizwan Hisham]

Is there any major architectural difference between 1.4 and 1.8?

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 Hi All,
 Please can anyone tell me the difference between 1.4, 1.6 and 1.8 asterisk
 versions.

 Thanks

 --
 Best Regards
 Rizwan Qureshi

  In a nutshell, 1.4 is the oldest and most stable, 1.6 is the current and
 1.8 is the beta version of Asterisk.  This is a gross over-simplification,
 but if you “know nothing”, 1.4 is going to give you the fewest headaches and
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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference

[Danny Nicholas]

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Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 7:15 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] Difference

 

Hi All,
Please can anyone tell me the difference between 1.4, 1.6 and 1.8 asterisk
versions.

Thanks

-- 
Best Regards
Rizwan Qureshi

In a nutshell, 1.4 is the oldest and most stable, 1.6 is the current and 1.8
is the beta version of Asterisk.  This is a gross over-simplification, but
if you know nothing, 1.4 is going to give you the fewest headaches and if
you have to have the latest 1.6 or 1.8 is the way to go.  The ChangeLogs
on Asterisk.org will give you a detailed difference.




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To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Difference

 

Is there any major architectural difference between 1.4 and 1.8?

The dialplan uses the 1.6 nomenclature (delimiter in dialplan changes from ,
to |) and the AGI structure is enhanced.  If you don't use AGI's, a
qualified not really.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference

[Steve Edwards]

On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Rizwan Hisham wrote:

 Is there any major architectural difference between 1.4 and 1.8?

Nope. The developer's just got tired of typing .4

Of course, the joke's on them -- 1.8 is only .4 better than 1.4.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference

[Zeeshan Zakaria]

For a production environment, 1.4 is the most stable, and it has everything
one needs to setup a telecom platform. As per my understanding 1.6 never got
the same recognition for stability as 1.4, plus it doesn't have any
significant advantages over 1.4. The newer version 1.8 series might be my
next jump once it'll be out of beta, but at this time it should not be used
in a production environment. Many of us still use 1.4 in production and if
you are just starting, this'll be your best choice.

Zeeshan A Zakaria

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 From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com [mailto:
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To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
*Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Difference





Is there any major architectural difference between 1.4 and 1.8?

The dialplan uses the 1.6 nomenclature (delimiter in dialplan changes from ,
to |) and the AGI structure is enhanced.  If you don’t use AGI’s, a
qualified “not really”.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference

[Rizwan Hisham]

Back in the days i heard that they have changed the architecture in 1.6 and
its a lot better than 1.4 (6 times better call handling and robust
architecture, someone told me). If they have decided to take the 1.6
architecture to the next level in the new 1.8 version then its a good thing.

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Steve Edwards asterisk@sedwards.comwrote:

 On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Rizwan Hisham wrote:

  Is there any major architectural difference between 1.4 and 1.8?

 Nope. The developer's just got tired of typing .4

 Of course, the joke's on them -- 1.8 is only .4 better than 1.4.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference

[Zeeshan Zakaria]

Here is a presentation from Kevin P. Fleming, Director of Software
Technologies at Digium. Information might be old by now still gives a good
overview of what is new in 1.6:

http://www.asterisk-tag.org/2008/slides/Kevin-Fleming-Asterisk-Tag-2008.pdf

Summary of his presentation is as follows:

– Asterisk 1.6 contains much new functionality, although nothing
revolutionary
– Asterisk 1.6's core has been improved in many ways that will reduce the
performance impact of new features being added and also the likelihood
of difficult to find locking and data structure bugs
– Future releases of Asterisk 1.6 (1.6.1, 1.6.2, etc.) will get new
functionality as well, in a controlled fashion
– Asterisk 1.6.0 is not recommended for production usage yet, but we would
very much like users to try it, report problems and help test the product in
more scenarios than the development can test themselves

--

Zeeshan

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Rizwan Hisham rizwanhas...@gmail.comwrote:

 Back in the days i heard that they have changed the architecture in 1.6 and
 its a lot better than 1.4 (6 times better call handling and robust
 architecture, someone told me). If they have decided to take the 1.6
 architecture to the next level in the new 1.8 version then its a good thing.


 On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Steve Edwards 
 asterisk@sedwards.comwrote:

 On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Rizwan Hisham wrote:

  Is there any major architectural difference between 1.4 and 1.8?

 Nope. The developer's just got tired of typing .4

 Of course, the joke's on them -- 1.8 is only .4 better than 1.4.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference

[Miguel Molina]

I find 1.6.2.13 version is stable for trunk call routing, and it should 
be too for basic call center use. The asterisk team has made some 
architectural improvements (moving to astobj2 a lot of internal 
structures, and much more you may not see from a user perspective) but 
given the several environment and different use cases, fear to upgrade 
or proven 1.4 stability for the job, the people usually don't upgrade or 
make it slowly with a lot of previous tests before making the jump.


If you use FAX, I recommend you 1.6.2 or later. The app_fax module is 
far better than the ast-agx-addons for 1.4.


The good old (now unsupported) 1.2 works for many people, ask Steve.

So it's up to you.

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El 06/10/10 11:04, Zeeshan Zakaria escribió:


For a production environment, 1.4 is the most stable, and it has 
everything one needs to setup a telecom platform. As per my 
understanding 1.6 never got the same recognition for stability as 1.4, 
plus it doesn't have any significant advantages over 1.4. The newer 
version 1.8 series might be my next jump once it'll be out of beta, 
but at this time it should not be used in a production environment. 
Many of us still use 1.4 in production and if you are just starting, 
this'll be your best choice.


Zeeshan A Zakaria

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mailto:da...@debsinc.com wrote:


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mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Be...


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*Rizwan Hisham

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To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion

*Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] Difference





Is there any major architectural difference between 1.4 and 1.8?

The dialplan uses the 1.6 nomenclature (delimiter in dialplan changes 
from , to |) and the AGI structure is enhanced.  If you don’t use 
AGI’s, a qualified “not really”.



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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between 'core show channels' and 'sip show channels' ??

[Jeff LaCoursiere]

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, jonas kellens wrote:

 vps*CLI iax2 show channels
 Channel   Peer UsernameID (Lo/Rem)  Seq
 (Tx/Rx)  Lag  Jitter  JitBuf  Format
 0 active IAX channels
 vps*CLI core show channels
 Channel  Location State
 Application(Data)
 0 active channels
 0 active calls
 vps*CLI sip show channels
 Peer User/ANRCall ID  Seq (Tx/Rx)  Format
 Hold Last Message
 ip_peer(None)  58139462bde  00101/20006  0x0 (nothing)No
 Rx: REGISTER
 1 active SIP channel

You caught an endpoint registering - that is a channel while the 
conversation to register is occurring.

 vps*CLI sip show channels
 Peer User/ANRCall ID  Seq (Tx/Rx)  Format
 Hold Last Message
 ip_peer 0a27b9c7d   37df36b96ba  04717/0  0x0 (nothing)
 No
 ip_peer (None)  24ddc4be2b2  00101/00119  0x0 (nothing)No
 Rx: REGISTER
 2 active SIP channels

One is a register again, not sure about the other.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between 1.4.x and 1.6.x?

[David Backeberg]

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Michael
Cunninghammichael.cunningham@gmail.com wrote:
 Forgive me if this is a FAQ question but I didnt see anything on the website
 of forum spelling out the difference between 1.4.x and 1.6.x

 Obviously 1.6.x is in development. Is it stable enough for production use?
 What are the new features being implemented in 1.6.x?

This is asked so much that you can actually search the list for
production use or stable.

The answer isn't always answerable by anybody but you. The fact that
you are trusted to make this decision for yourself is part of the
asterisk philosophy. It depends on your time, aversion to risk, and
willingness to determine whether a given version of asterisk meets
your needs.  You could argue that 'stable enough for production use'
is an oxymoron. People either want the code to never change, so they
never get features, or they want the latest and greatest, or they want
the code to not break their outside enhancements, and of course it
should be free, and vetted by somebody else first. Pick a few, and
you'll be happy with the results.

I'm personally running 1.6.2.0-beta4 in 'production' because certain
features I want are more 'reliable' there. Other times I've pulled
patches out of SVN, or reported my results on the issue tracker, again
for the same reason.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between 1.4.x and 1.6.x?

[Jose Arias]

For changes between 1.4 and 1.6 you might find useful this one:
http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/tags/1.6.0/CHANGES

For changes between 1.6 branches:
http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/tags/1.6.1.0/CHANGES
http://svn.digium.com/svn/asterisk/tags/1.6.2.0-beta1/CHANGES

Regards
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2009/8/4 Michael Cunningham michael.cunningham@gmail.com

 Thanks Leif,

 That cleared up the versioning.. Is there a list of new features in 1.6.x
 versus the 1.4.x version?

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 leif.mad...@asteriskdocs.org wrote:

  Michael Cunningham wrote:
  Forgive me if this is a FAQ question but I didnt see anything on the
  website
  of forum spelling out the difference between 1.4.x and 1.6.x
 
  Obviously 1.6.x is in development. Is it stable enough for production
  use?
  What are the new features being implemented in 1.6.x?
 
  Will Cepstral work with 1.6.x?

 This may be a useful article from asterisk.org for you to read:

 http://www.asterisk.org/node/48602

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between 1.4.x and 1.6.x?

[Klaus Darilion]

1.6.0 is stable
1.6.1 is stable
1.6.2 is release candidate

See the files Changelog* and UPDATE* in this distributions for changes.

regards
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Michael Cunningham schrieb:
 Forgive me if this is a FAQ question but I didnt see anything on the 
 website
 of forum spelling out the difference between 1.4.x and 1.6.x
  
 Obviously 1.6.x is in development. Is it stable enough for production  use?
 What are the new features being implemented in 1.6.x?
  
 Will Cepstral work with 1.6.x?
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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between 1.4.x and 1.6.x?

[Leif Madsen]

Klaus Darilion wrote:
 1.6.0 is stable
 1.6.1 is stable
 1.6.2 is release candidate
 
 See the files Changelog* and UPDATE* in this distributions for changes.

Actually, almost...

1.6.0 is in release status
1.6.1 is in release status
1.6.2 is in beta status (soon release candidate)

That's a more accurate way of describing them.

Thanks!
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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between 1.4.x and 1.6.x?

[Danny Nicholas]

Ok.  What's the difference between stable and in release status?  Does
the hierarchy go beta, stable, release candidate, release status?

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Klaus Darilion wrote:
 1.6.0 is stable
 1.6.1 is stable
 1.6.2 is release candidate
 
 See the files Changelog* and UPDATE* in this distributions for changes.

Actually, almost...

1.6.0 is in release status
1.6.1 is in release status
1.6.2 is in beta status (soon release candidate)

That's a more accurate way of describing them.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between 1.4.x and 1.6.x?

[Tilghman Lesher]

On Tuesday 04 August 2009 08:22:52 Danny Nicholas wrote:
 Ok.  What's the difference between stable and in release status?  Does
 the hierarchy go beta, stable, release candidate, release status?

We don't actually use the word stable because it's a loaded word and leads
to poor expectations.  In Debian parlance, 1.2 would be considered stable
(that is, does not change very often).  The hierarchy goes from beta
to release candidate to released.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between 1.4.x and 1.6.x?

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 08:45:13AM -0500, Tilghman Lesher wrote:
 On Tuesday 04 August 2009 08:22:52 Danny Nicholas wrote:
  Ok.  What's the difference between stable and in release status?  Does
  the hierarchy go beta, stable, release candidate, release status?
 
 We don't actually use the word stable because it's a loaded word and leads
 to poor expectations.  In Debian parlance, 1.2 would be considered stable
 (that is, does not change very often).  The hierarchy goes from beta
 to release candidate to released.

But there's a missing characterization here: actively maintained.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between 1.4.x and 1.6.x?

[Leif Madsen]

Michael Cunningham wrote:
 Forgive me if this is a FAQ question but I didnt see anything on the 
 website
 of forum spelling out the difference between 1.4.x and 1.6.x
  
 Obviously 1.6.x is in development. Is it stable enough for production  use?
 What are the new features being implemented in 1.6.x?
  
 Will Cepstral work with 1.6.x?

This may be a useful article from asterisk.org for you to read:

http://www.asterisk.org/node/48602

Leif Madsen.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between 1.4.x and 1.6.x?

[Michael Cunningham]

Thanks Leif,

That cleared up the versioning.. Is there a list of new features in 1.6.x
versus the 1.4.x version?

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Leif Madsen leif.mad...@asteriskdocs.orgwrote:

  Michael Cunningham wrote:
  Forgive me if this is a FAQ question but I didnt see anything on the
  website
  of forum spelling out the difference between 1.4.x and 1.6.x
 
  Obviously 1.6.x is in development. Is it stable enough for production
  use?
  What are the new features being implemented in 1.6.x?
 
  Will Cepstral work with 1.6.x?

 This may be a useful article from asterisk.org for you to read:

 http://www.asterisk.org/node/48602

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between DAHDI/G1/0123456789 and DAHDI/g1/0123456789

[Dave Fullerton]

Olivier wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Groups in asterisk are summarized here (
 http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Channels+and+Groups).
 Is there any difference between DAHDI/G1/0123456789 and DAHDI/g1/0123456789
 (as I've been advised in another thread, to switch from one notation to the
 other and I can't see the reason behind that) ?
 
 
 Regards

Assuming nothing has changed from Zaptel to DAHDI, the difference can 
found here:

http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+ZAP+channels

Basically, the lowercase g chooses the lowest number available channel 
from the group where the uppercase G chooses the highest number 
available channel. This is used to reduce glare on analog or T1 
(non-PRI) channels that are part of a hunt group.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between DAHDI/G1/0123456789 and DAHDI/g1/0123456789

[Mark Michelson]

Olivier wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Groups in asterisk are summarized here 
 (http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Channels+and+Groups).
 Is there any difference between DAHDI/G1/0123456789 and 
 DAHDI/g1/0123456789 (as I've been advised in another thread, to switch 
 from one notation to the other and I can't see the reason behind that) ?
 
 
 Regards
 

Using 'g' means that channels will be used starting with the lowest available 
number and then counting up. Starting with 'G' means to start at the highest 
channel number and count down. I believe that incoming calls will use the 
lowest 
numbered channels first, so if your outgoing calls start with the higher 
numbers 
it decreases the chance for glare on calls.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between DAHDI/G1/0123456789 and DAHDI/g1/0123456789

[Olivier]

Thanks for replying !
I've added a link here
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Channels+and+Groups to
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+ZAP+channels.


2008/12/1 Mark Michelson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Olivier wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Groups in asterisk are summarized here
  (http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Channels+and+Groups).
  Is there any difference between DAHDI/G1/0123456789 and
  DAHDI/g1/0123456789 (as I've been advised in another thread, to switch
  from one notation to the other and I can't see the reason behind that) ?
 
 
  Regards
 

 Using 'g' means that channels will be used starting with the lowest
 available
 number and then counting up. Starting with 'G' means to start at the
 highest
 channel number and count down. I believe that incoming calls will use the
 lowest
 numbered channels first, so if your outgoing calls start with the higher
 numbers
 it decreases the chance for glare on calls.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between Asterisk and FreeSwitch

[Tim H. Panton]

Please read: 
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/FreeSwitch
and 
http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk

Then if you have a specific question about one of them, 
come back here to ask about asterisk, and on the freeswitch 
mailinglist for more info on that technology.

Or you could put up a comparision page on the voip-info wiki
and ask folks to contribute there.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between Asterisk and FreeSwitch

[Tilghman Lesher]

On Tuesday 22 January 2008 11:50:25 love U.all wrote:
 what is the difference between FreeSwitch and Asterisk ,

The main difference in functionality is that FreeSwitch is a voip-switch only.
It does not have any method to interface to the PSTN, other than through
using another host which does have that connectivity, such as an Asterisk-
based host.

 whitch one is more scalable and reliable?

That is going to depend completely on what environment you're deploying it,
what features you're using, etc.  Keep in mind that Asterisk is going into its
third major release cycle, while FreeSwitch is still undergoing public betas
and has not yet had a single general release yet.

Also, note that the installbase, developer base, and userbase are all much
larger, by an exponential factor, for Asterisk than for FreeSwitch, and
Asterisk has a company backing it which is willing to provide commercial
support.  FreeSwitch, as best as I can tell, has no such support structure.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between Asterisk and FreeSwitch

[Michael Collins]

  what is the difference between FreeSwitch and Asterisk ,
 
 The main difference in functionality is that FreeSwitch is a
voip-switch
 only.

Technically, FreeSWITCH is a soft-switch, or a modular media switching
library that can switch more than just voice.  Also, technically, FS is
a library, and there is a freeswitch application built on that library.
The best analogy I can think of is the application curl, which is a
command line app built on libcurl.

Asterisk is a full-featured PBX that can do many of the things a true
soft-switch can do.  FreeSWITCH is (or will be, depending on your
viewpoint) a full-featured soft-switch that can do many of the things
that a PBX can do.

 It does not have any method to interface to the PSTN, other than
through
 using another host which does have that connectivity, such as an
Asterisk-
 based host.

To be fair, this isn't quite accurate.  FreeSWITCH can interface to PSTN
via PRI or analog FXS/FXO using Digium, Sangoma, PIKA, etc. cards.  (Any
Zaptel-compatible cards should work.  I've done PRI with a Tor2 clone.)
Also, to be fair, the PSTN interface, like the rest of FS, is still
young and therefore subject to the usual (and unusual) bugs that
inhabit beta releases.  Technically, the FreeSWITCH project is at RC1.
The PSTN mod to FS is called OpenZAP and it is probably better
described as beta.  (Not an official statement, just my personal
observation formed from my personal usage.  I've got an Asterisk box
sitting right next to a FS box and I've been playing with both of them
and I can tell you that right now Asterisk is much more ready for PSTN
usage.)

 
  whitch one is more scalable and reliable?
 
 That is going to depend completely on what environment you're
deploying
 it,
 what features you're using, etc.  Keep in mind that Asterisk is going
into
 its
 third major release cycle, while FreeSwitch is still undergoing public
 betas
 and has not yet had a single general release yet.
 
 Also, note that the installbase, developer base, and userbase are all
much
 larger, by an exponential factor, for Asterisk than for FreeSwitch,
and
 Asterisk has a company backing it which is willing to provide
commercial
 support.  FreeSwitch, as best as I can tell, has no such support
 structure.

These are all true.  The bottom line is that FreeSWITCH is a young, but
very cool, project headed by a small core development team.  The lead
developer is a huge Asterisk contributor - Anthony Minessale.  (Check
the karma page and I think you'll find he's way near the top...)  The
community is also small but growing quickly.  There are a lot of people
who use both FS and * because they have different target applications
and different strengths and weaknesses.  If you need a tried-and-true
app that is well-supported and documented then Asterisk is an easy
choice.  If you are comfortable on the cutting edge or if you like the
way FS is built or the way it approaches the handling of certain
challenges then FS is something you should check out.  This is one area
where FOSS is so cool - you can totally check out both projects and give
them a test drive without paying a penny in software costs.

To the OP I recommend that you investigate both projects and see if one
fits your needs better, which I believe is Tilghman's advice as well.

-MC
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between TE121 and TE122

[Gal Barak]

The TE121 is a PCI Express card (TE122 is standard PCI, 2.2 if I'm not
mistaken).

Gal Barak
Tech support
Atelis PLC

2008/1/16, Guilherme Loch Waltrick Góes [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 What's the difference between the TE121 and TE122. I read the description
 on Digium's site and it isn't clear to me.
 Best regards,

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between TE121 and TE122

[Igor A. Goncharovsky]

Hello!

Guilherme Loch Waltrick Góes wrote:
 What's the difference between the TE121 and TE122. I read the description on
 Digium's site and it isn't clear to me.
 Best regards,
   
The only one difference is interface: one of them have PCI and other 
have PCI-Express.

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Re: [asterisk-users] difference between FXO interfaces !

[Edgar Guadamuz]

The model AP200 that you are giving as example is 2 port only... and
i'm not sure about the price...
I know that codec conversion is one of the most cpu-intensive task
that asterisk has to do, so, you can chose a Digium/Sangoma card with
a powerful server doing the work or you can also use a VoIP gateway
with a cheaper and less powerful asterisk box. It depens so much in
your resources..



On 10/14/07, Mandeep Singh Bhabha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello everybody,
Which one is a better choice
 1.  Gateway device with FXO - SIP ( example Addpac
 http://www.addpac.com/addpac_eng2/addpac_product_view_detail.php?class_id=19item_id=59
 )
 2. Digium (Wildcard TDM400P)
 3. Sangoma (A200 Analog FXO/FXS)

All i need is to put asterisk in place with 4-8 incomming lines 
 (ordinary POTS ).
 With IVR, Voice mail and International Call via SIP. Office is having 12
 phone lines.
Thanks in Advance to all who shared his/her wisdom.

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 With Regards,
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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between trunk and released versions

[Sean Bright]

Yehavi,

The release branches (1.2, 1.4) were at one time trunk.  When it was decided
to release 1.4, for example, it was branched off from trunk as the
1.4branch.  New functionality continued to be added to trunk after
that.  Once
the release branches are created, they are feature-frozen and only bug fixes
are applied (this is the goal, though sometimes new functionality does sneak
in when deemed necessary or desirable by the maintainers).

So long story short, up until the release of 1.4, it was the same code as
trunk.  Since the 1.4 branch was created, no new functionality has been
added to that branch, but 1.4.x releases continue to be made as bugs are
discovered and fixed.

Does this clear things up?

Sean

On Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:34 +0200, Yehavi Bourvine +972-8-9489444 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,

   Up to a while ago I thought that the released versions are checkpoints
 of
 the trunk versions; however, now I understand they are not, as I see
 differences between the two trains. So, what is the relation between them?

   Examples for differences:

 - When the language is different than Engligh the trunk version is reading
   numbers from /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/Lang-Name/digits while the release
   version is using  /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/digits/Lang-Name

 - MAILBOX_EXISTS function is replaced with MailboxExists application.

 - External IVR has no way to exit from the program under the release
 version...
   The documentation is correct with the trunk version.

  Thanks! __Yehavi:

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between trunk and released versions

[Yehavi Bourvine +972-8-9489444]

Hello Sean,

 Does this clear things up?

Yes! Thanks!

   __Yehavi:

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference in show channels

[Jaswinder Singh]

'show channels' shows only running calls  while 'sip show channels' shows
all running sip sessions including phones trying to register .

On 09/09/2007, ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all

 what is the difference between

 show channels

 sip show channles

 i see the difference in both

 show channels show me 30 channels

 sip show channels shows me 221 channels

 any description on this

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference in show channels

[ram]

On 9/9/07, Jaswinder Singh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 'show channels' shows only running calls  while 'sip show channels' shows
 all running sip sessions including phones trying to register .


thanks

but after my 30 channels of show channels

i see lot of vice break and choppy voice

doing passthrough codecs


Xeon 2.0GHZ with 2 GG Ram

centos 4.4

1.2.17

any suggestions

ram

 On 09/09/2007, ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Hi all
 
  what is the difference between
 
  show channels
 
  sip show channles
 
  i see the difference in both
 
  show channels show me 30 channels
 
  sip show channels shows me 221 channels
 
  any description on this
 
  ram
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between WaitExten and TIMEOUT (response)

[Anthony Francis]

Michiel van Baak wrote:
 On 05:27, Fri 03 Aug 07, bilal ghayyad wrote:
   
 Hi List;

 What is the difference between WaitExten function and
 TIMEOUT (response)? As I see that both are used to
 determine the allowed time to enter the digits, any
 one can advise?
 

 WaitExten is waiting for you to type an extension.
 TIMEOUT is to set the default timeout for promtps in IVR and
 stuff but is not actually waiting for you to provide an
 extension
   
More specifically, timeout is the time between dialing digits when using 
WaitExten or background for asterisk to decide you are done dialing an 
option or extension and place the call.

Anthony

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between WaitExten and TIMEOUT (response)

[Michael Munger]

The difference is in the scope of the command.

Think of it this way:

WaitExten gives the user more time to enter digits before the dialplan
moves on to the next instruction in the dial plan. Timeout is the max
number of seconds to wait at any point in the current context before
deciding the user either got confused, doesn't know what their doing, or
fell asleep.

Clear as mud?

Yours,

Michael Munger, dCAP
404-438-2128
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ghayyad
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To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-users] Difference between WaitExten and TIMEOUT
(response)

Hi List;

What is the difference between WaitExten function and
TIMEOUT (response)? As I see that both are used to
determine the allowed time to enter the digits, any
one can advise?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between WaitExten and TIMEOUT (response)

[bilal ghayyad]

Dear Michael;

I understood it in that way (please advise me if I am
correct):

WaitExten is for the time to complete entering the
digits, while timeout is specified wether user
responded by dialing any thing or not.

Please advise.
regards

The difference is in the scope of the command.

Think of it this way:

WaitExten gives the user more time to enter digits
before the dialplan
moves on to the next instruction in the dial plan.
Timeout is the max
number of seconds to wait at any point in the current
context before
deciding the user either got confused, doesn't know
what their doing,
 or
fell asleep.

Clear as mud?

Yours,

Michael Munger, dCAP
404-438-2128
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of bilal
ghayyad
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:27 AM
To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: [asterisk-users] Difference between WaitExten
and TIMEOUT
(response)

Hi List;

What is the difference between WaitExten function and
TIMEOUT (response)? As I see that both are used to
determine the allowed time to enter the digits, any
one can advise?

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between WaitExten and TIMEOUT (response)

[Michiel van Baak]

On 05:27, Fri 03 Aug 07, bilal ghayyad wrote:
 Hi List;
 
 What is the difference between WaitExten function and
 TIMEOUT (response)? As I see that both are used to
 determine the allowed time to enter the digits, any
 one can advise?

WaitExten is waiting for you to type an extension.
TIMEOUT is to set the default timeout for promtps in IVR and
stuff but is not actually waiting for you to provide an
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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between WaitExten and TIMEOUT (response)

[Baji Panchumarti]

  On 8/3/07, bilal ghayyad  wrote:

 Hi List;

 What is the difference between WaitExten function and
 TIMEOUT (response)? As I see that both are used to
 determine the allowed time to enter the digits, any
 one can advise?

 core show function TIMEOUT

 for different timeout parameters, I haven't used WaitExten

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Re: [asterisk-users] Difference between SCCP and Cisco Call Manager traffic?

[Steve Dickey]

Call setup/teardown is handled with the SIP protocol while the actual call
audio is handled with RTP I think.  Check the config of your NAT devices
relative to RTP.

scd

On 4/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm wondering about the difference between Cisco Call Manager and
SCCP(2) network traffic.  I'm working on getting a Cisco 7960 phone to
speak through a NAT to an asterisk box, without having to do a bunch of
port
forwarding on the NAT device.

Without the nat, everything works fine.

If the phone is behind a cisco pix that is doing the natting, it works
fine (fixup protocol).

If the phone is behind a more generic nat device, such as a linux box
running ipfilter.  Then it can dial out, but there is no audio.  The
interesting part is that this same phone, behind the same NAT works just
fine if it is talking to a Cisco Call Manager box instead of an
asterisk server.  So, I'm wondering what the difference in the protocols
is
(I no longer have access to the call manager box, so I can't look @ the
traffic).  In a perfect world, I'd like to have the phone pretty much just
work wherever it's plugged in as long as it can see the asterisk server.


Any ideas ?


Thanks


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] difference betwen a TE411P and TE410P

[Kevin P. Fleming]

Rodney G. McDuff wrote:
 Is the TE411P just a TE410P with hardware echo cancellation?

Yes. Same for a TE405P and TE406P.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] difference between records in CDR and realduration of call

[nik600]

On 3/10/06, AR Tarzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That's because the duration is counted from the time of dialling. billsec is
 what you want if it's to calculate the duration the call was active.

 To change what shows you need to change call-log.php in
 /var/www/html/admin/cdr/

 Instead of duration extract billsec - you can still label it duration (as in
 the title of the column). It might be closer to what you wish.

 - Original Message -
 From: nik600 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
 Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 17:04
 Subject: [Asterisk-Users] difference between records in CDR and realduration
 of call


 hi

 i've made some test calls, i've notice that a call of the duration of
 1:29 minutes is recorded in the cdr database as 1:45 minutes, is it
 normal?

 i think that 15 seconds are too many... how can i correct this?

 thanks
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ok thanks, i've tried to edit the file but the field duration is set
many times...exactly, where have i to cheange the value?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] difference between records in CDR and real duration of call

[Melcon Moraes]

What about ResetCDR() just before Dial()?

nik600 wrote:

hi

i've made some test calls, i've notice that a call of the duration of
1:29 minutes is recorded in the cdr database as 1:45 minutes, is it
normal?

i think that 15 seconds are too many... how can i correct this?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] difference between records in CDR and real duration of call

[Christian B]

On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 15:04:18 +0100
nik600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi
 
 i've made some test calls, i've notice that a call of the duration of
 1:29 minutes is recorded in the cdr database as 1:45 minutes, is it
 normal?
 
 i think that 15 seconds are too many... how can i correct this?
 
 thanks


Maybe you answer the call in the dialplan before you pickup? Please
show us the dialplan you used... and do you mean duration or billsec?

regards
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] difference between records in CDR and real duration of call

[Melcon Moraes]

Or maybe, you should try the C flag in your Dial().

[]'s
MM

nik600 wrote:

hi

i've made some test calls, i've notice that a call of the duration of
1:29 minutes is recorded in the cdr database as 1:45 minutes, is it
normal?

i think that 15 seconds are too many... how can i correct this?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] difference between records in CDR and real duration of call

[nik600]

ok, thanks for your reply, tomorrow i'll test and let you know

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] difference between records in CDR and realduration of call

[AR Tarzi]

That's because the duration is counted from the time of dialling. billsec is 
what you want if it's to calculate the duration the call was active.


To change what shows you need to change call-log.php in 
/var/www/html/admin/cdr/


Instead of duration extract billsec - you can still label it duration (as in 
the title of the column). It might be closer to what you wish.


- Original Message - 
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asterisk-users@lists.digium.com

Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 17:04
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] difference between records in CDR and realduration 
of call



hi

i've made some test calls, i've notice that a call of the duration of
1:29 minutes is recorded in the cdr database as 1:45 minutes, is it
normal?

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Asterisk and [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 12:03:42AM -0500, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:
 trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 07:04 +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 

 OT:
 
 Not a Knoppix, actually. You can't do anything useful with it without a
 HD install. A while ago I needed badly to test a certain system with
 Asterisk without installing it and was amazed to see the little existing
 support LiveCDs had of Asterisk. I ended up using AsteriskLive 0.1.6,
 even though it was rather old.
 
 
 
 If you wanted a knoppix install there is knopsterix, which can save your
 config without overwriting your whole drive without prompting you to
 save a partition or two.

However they were not avilable for download, so I never bothered.

 
   I should be releasing a much improved Live version of AstLinux 
   within a week or so.  A test version was announced on my mailing list a 
 while ago, with pretty good results so far.  It will be AstLinux 0.2.8, and 
 available as an ISO (as well as the Windows install package, disk 
 images, etc.)  I'll let everyone here know when it's released.

This was actually the ifrst one I tried.

I tried astlinux 0.2.6 as well, however as a live CD it wasn't useful,
because I could not write any modified configuration on the live /etc .
Thus I could not run asterisk with the modified configuration without a
proper installation. 

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Asterisk and [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Kristian Kielhofner]

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
	I should be releasing a much improved Live version of AstLinux 
	within a week or so.  A test version was announced on my mailing list a 
while ago, with pretty good results so far.  It will be AstLinux 0.2.8, and 
available as an ISO (as well as the Windows install package, disk 
images, etc.)  I'll let everyone here know when it's released.



This was actually the ifrst one I tried.

I tried astlinux 0.2.6 as well, however as a live CD it wasn't useful,
because I could not write any modified configuration on the live /etc .
Thus I could not run asterisk with the modified configuration without a
proper installation. 


	Not quite...  By default, AstLinux (and the live cd) will copy a 
default Asterisk configuration to a tmpfs filesystem where you can edit 
it, you just can't save it anywhere (persistent across reboot) unless 
you use a key disk.  /etc/asterisk is in fact just a link to 
/tmp/etc/asterisk.  Did you actually try to write a file in 
/etc/asterisk, or did you see that / was read-only and give up?  Did you 
read the user guide?


	However, the main changes with the 0.2.7 and later ISO image are that 
the CD device is auto detected and the entire contents of the CD are 
copied to RAM so that the configuration files can be edited and the CD 
can be removed, that should make it more of a familiar live cd 
environment.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Asterisk and [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 02:40:40AM -0500, Kristian Kielhofner wrote:

 I tried astlinux 0.2.6 as well, however as a live CD it wasn't useful,
 because I could not write any modified configuration on the live /etc .
 Thus I could not run asterisk with the modified configuration without a
 proper installation. 
 
   Not quite...  By default, AstLinux (and the live cd) will copy a 
 default Asterisk configuration to a tmpfs filesystem where you can edit 
 it, you just can't save it anywhere (persistent across reboot) unless 
 you use a key disk.  /etc/asterisk is in fact just a link to 
 /tmp/etc/asterisk.  Did you actually try to write a file in 
 /etc/asterisk, or did you see that / was read-only and give up?  Did you 
 read the user guide?

Hmm, I remember I did. But it was a while ago...

 
   However, the main changes with the 0.2.7 and later ISO image are 
   that the CD device is auto detected and the entire contents of the CD 
 are 
 copied to RAM so that the configuration files can be edited and the CD 
 can be removed, that should make it more of a familiar live cd 
 environment.

That's even better. I'll try it next time. Thanks

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Asterisk and [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Mark Elkins]

My 2c worth...

For the beginner, AAH is great. The PC that you install on will be
totally reformatted / fdisk-ed (assuming single drive - etc).

With AAH 1.3 - the installation goes to sleep and sort of finishes
when its Syncing with a Time Server. A reboot at this point seems to do
no harm.

As Asterisk is configured via AMP - you are limited in functionality as
to what AMP can do for you - but one can edit the config files directly
as well for custom configs. (I needed to program an incoming (Fax) zap
line to go to one particular extension)

As it starts - there are a number of dialplan features which are quite
cool, eg Time, Weather, Wakeup-Call, You extension is.., VoiceMail,
IVR, Do-Not-Disturb, FAX handling.

Sure - these are all things Asterisk can do, but with the default
asterisk download, you start with a pretty clean slate...

My current AAH limitations include:-
a) In IVR, no ability to program or hold for an operator timeout for
the DTMF challenged.
b) Support for junghanns cards (or HFC cards)
c) Multi-Company support - Default is one primary IVR

Just did an install with many extensions  16 lines (4 x TDM400P) - 2 to
Fixed line Cells, 14 to Telco (no services except DTMF dialing - its
in East Africa).

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Asterisk and [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Jeff Busch]

my $0.02...

I have implemented [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.9 
ina Real Estate/Legal office with 6 phones and 3 incoming lines using 
TDM04B card and Polycom/Sipura phones.

I am about to implement 3 more systems ([EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.3) for a construction company.One will 
be 6 phones and 4 PSTN lines using SPA-3000 ATA's. The second will be 2x 
TDM04B connecting to 6 lines to start with10 Polycom IP-501 phones. 
The third system has not yet been designed. but will be 4 lines and 6 - 7 
phones.

The Real Estate system is running [EMAIL PROTECTED] 0.9 and has been running for 59 days since the last 
reboot, which I did when I added the Polycom phones. This is a fairly 
light-use system averaging about 1700 minutes/mo in usage. It is setup to 
have an Auto-Attendant when no one is present and to have the phones answered 
live when the receptionist is at her desk. I setup a "* + number" code for 
the receptionist to dial to toggle the Auto-attendant.

As of yet I have not run into any problems running the one 
system in production, and we are confident in the other 3 systems that are about 
to be implemented. The systems that will be implemented soon will have 
pretty high call volume, as these are for a construction job trailers on pretty 
large scale projects.

I started off by exploring Asterisk and actually built a 
couple of test systems without using [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I was 
able to figure out the configurations and actually had no problems setting up 
thetest systems (for me it was pretty simple even though I had never 
touched linux before). I created a set of config files that I was going to 
copy from server to server to aid the implementation, and I was ready to build 
the server for the Real Estate office... 

Then, I ran across [EMAIL PROTECTED] and after 
playing with it a little bit determined that it provided a quicker setup process 
and provided all the features that we would need. Clearly, there are some 
things that are easier to do without [EMAIL PROTECTED] due to the 
limitations provided by AMP... but I have found that for these small office 
implementations, this has not been an issue.

Hope this helps.

Jeff Busch
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael 
FelderSent: Sunday, July 17, 2005 8:17 PMTo: Asterisk 
Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial DiscussionSubject: 
[Asterisk-Users] Difference between Asterisk and 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello 
What is the difference between these 2 version of Asterisk in 
terms of functionality.
For a small office am I going to run into problems if I use the 
easy version...

Mike
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Asterisk and Asterisk@home

[Andrew Latham]

That question could start a battle.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a bootable Asterisk system. Think of it as the
Knoppix of the Linux distro world. It could work but that is for you
to decide.



On 7/17/05, Michael Felder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Hello 
 What is the difference between these 2 version of Asterisk in terms of
 functionality. 
 For a small office am I going to run into problems if I use the easy
 version... 
   
 Mike 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Asterisk and [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Michael Felder]

I guess I was wondering if it was crippled in some way.

Mike 

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Latham
Sent: Monday, 18 July 2005 1:18 PM
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

That question could start a battle.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a bootable Asterisk system. Think of it as the Knoppix
of the Linux distro world. It could work but that is for you to decide.



On 7/17/05, Michael Felder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 Hello
 What is the difference between these 2 version of Asterisk in terms of

 functionality.
 For a small office am I going to run into problems if I use the easy 
 version...
   
 Mike
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Asterisk and Asterisk@home

[Terry H. Gilsenan]

 

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Andrew Latham
 Sent: Monday, 18 July 2005 1:18 PM
 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Asterisk and 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 That question could start a battle.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a bootable Asterisk system. Think of it as 
 the Knoppix of the Linux distro world. It could work but that 
 is for you to decide.
 

It should be mentioned that the [EMAIL PROTECTED] CD-ROM will silently (...or
with very little fanfare) blow away any partitions you may have on your PC
and install Linux and [EMAIL PROTECTED] So

Be very carefull is booting on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] CD-ROM on a system that you
don't want to sacrifice.

That said, I have several [EMAIL PROTECTED] installs and they work fine for my
purposes. I have dual TDM400P's with 8 incoming PSNT (TDM) lines from the
Telco, and a combination of SIP and IAX2 hard and softphones.


 
 
 On 7/17/05, Michael Felder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
  Hello
  What is the difference between these 2 version of Asterisk 
 in terms of 
  functionality.
  For a small office am I going to run into problems if I use 
 the easy 
  version...

  Mike
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Asterisk and [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Dean Collins]

Not in any way that you would be worried about for at least a while. It
does restrict what you can customize but by the time you get to that
stage (I still haven't - you can install your own version)

Cheers,
Dean


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 I guess I was wondering if it was crippled in some way.
 
 Mike
 
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 That question could start a battle.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a bootable Asterisk system. Think of it as the
Knoppix
 of the Linux distro world. It could work but that is for you to
decide.
 
 
 
 On 7/17/05, Michael Felder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello
  What is the difference between these 2 version of Asterisk in terms
of
 
  functionality.
  For a small office am I going to run into problems if I use the easy
  version...
 
  Mike
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Asterisk and [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Mark Phillips]

I think that AAH would suit you fine for a small business application. 
It is not crippled in any way. Far from it in fact. It has more features 
installed as default than the latest CVS version.


It is however based on the latest official release of the Asterisk 
code (whatever that is at the time you download the disk) and so may not 
have some of the latest bug fixes etc.


Go for it! I've install a few for my customers and they love it.

Mark

Michael Felder wrote:
Hello 
What is the difference between these 2 version of Asterisk in terms of

functionality.
For a small office am I going to run into problems if I use the easy
version...
 
Mike






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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Asterisk and [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Kristian Kielhofner]

Michael Felder wrote:

Hello
What is the difference between these 2 version of Asterisk in terms of 
functionality.
For a small office am I going to run into problems if I use the easy 
version...
 
Mike


[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a Linux distribution that makes it easy to install 
Asterisk and a few other Asterisk related applications (like AMP).


Asterisk is the main application that makes [EMAIL PROTECTED] different from 
the CentOS distro (which is what it is based off of).


Your question is a little like what is the difference between Apache and 
Fedora (Fedora usually includes Apache on server installs).


That being said, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is crippled, but only because by default 
is uses AMP, which somewhat limits what you can change via it's interface.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Asterisk and [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Kristian Kielhofner]

Mark Phillips wrote:
I think that AAH would suit you fine for a small business application. 
It is not crippled in any way. Far from it in fact. It has more features 
installed as default than the latest CVS version.


	Not to sound rude, but that doesn't make any sense.  Or I'm reading it 
wrong :).


	[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a distro that by default includes a release version of 
Asterisk STABLE.  First of all, you can't even directly compare the two 
(Asterisk vs. [EMAIL PROTECTED]).  Would you compare an engine by itself to 
an entire car?  No, you wouldn't.  Don't do it here, either.


	Secondly, unless they are doing some mad branching and patching, there 
is NO WAY that the version of stable that they include has more 
Asterisk features than CVS HEAD.  They include some applications that 
help enable some Asterisk features (mysql, mpg123, etc), but there is no 
reason that you can't get all of that with another distro (albeit not as 
easily) and Asterisk stable, or even more Asterisk features with all 
of those applications and CVS HEAD.


It is however based on the latest official release of the Asterisk 
code (whatever that is at the time you download the disk) and so may not 
have some of the latest bug fixes etc.


Go for it! I've install a few for my customers and they love it.


Great!  Use what works!


Mark



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Asterisk and [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 10:18:26PM -0500, Andrew Latham wrote:
 That question could start a battle.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a bootable Asterisk system. Think of it as the
 Knoppix of the Linux distro world. It could work but that is for you
 to decide.

OT:

Not a Knoppix, actually. You can't do anything useful with it without a
HD install. A while ago I needed badly to test a certain system with
Asterisk without installing it and was amazed to see the little existing
support LiveCDs had of Asterisk. I ended up using AsteriskLive 0.1.6,
even though it was rather old.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Asterisk and [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com]

On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 07:04 +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 10:18:26PM -0500, Andrew Latham wrote:
  That question could start a battle.
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a bootable Asterisk system. Think of it as the
  Knoppix of the Linux distro world. It could work but that is for you
  to decide.
 
 OT:
 
 Not a Knoppix, actually. You can't do anything useful with it without a
 HD install. A while ago I needed badly to test a certain system with
 Asterisk without installing it and was amazed to see the little existing
 support LiveCDs had of Asterisk. I ended up using AsteriskLive 0.1.6,
 even though it was rather old.
 

If you wanted a knoppix install there is knopsterix, which can save your
config without overwriting your whole drive without prompting you to
save a partition or two.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Asterisk and [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Kristian Kielhofner]

trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com wrote:

On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 07:04 +0300, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:


On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 10:18:26PM -0500, Andrew Latham wrote:


That question could start a battle.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a bootable Asterisk system. Think of it as the
Knoppix of the Linux distro world. It could work but that is for you
to decide.


OT:

Not a Knoppix, actually. You can't do anything useful with it without a
HD install. A while ago I needed badly to test a certain system with
Asterisk without installing it and was amazed to see the little existing
support LiveCDs had of Asterisk. I ended up using AsteriskLive 0.1.6,
even though it was rather old.




If you wanted a knoppix install there is knopsterix, which can save your
config without overwriting your whole drive without prompting you to
save a partition or two.


	I should be releasing a much improved Live version of AstLinux within a 
week or so.  A test version was announced on my mailing list a while 
ago, with pretty good results so far.  It will be AstLinux 0.2.8, and 
available as an ISO (as well as the Windows install package, disk 
images, etc.)  I'll let everyone here know when it's released.


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Asterisk and Asterisk@home?

[Tomasz Chmielewski]

Kib Eki wrote:
Hi,
can one summarize the main differences between Asterisk and 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or
point me to a location where i can find such a list?
See [EMAIL PROTECTED] site - http://asteriskathome.sf.net - and asterisk 
site - www.asterisk.org.

Basically, asterisk is a program, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a distribution 
with running (and partially configured) asterisk, AMP, etc. and other 
additional stuff.
Of course you have to configure your asterisk hardware yourself.

It's like a question: what's the difference between KDE and Debian.. :)
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference Between NAT=yes and QUALIFY=yes and STUN...

[Eric Wieling]

Matt wrote:
I have a STUN server running on my Asterisk box which seems to work
for most of my SIP clients.. but some of them seem to require NAT=yes
turned on.   If I go further and turn QUALIFY=yes to on, is there a
reason I need to keep running a STUN server?  If so, what's the
difference?
I never understood why Asterisk users seem to have such a fetish for 
STUN and SER.  Most people don't need them.  If you have many phones 
behind NAT and you want the phones to call each other and you want to 
enable reinvites then, yes, you need SER or STUN or something like that.

Asterisk seems to be commonly used in three ways:
1) Home Phone System
2) Business Phone System
3) Internet Telephony Service Provider
Generally none of these types of use has a large percentage of phones 
behind NAT and calling each other.

Companies like FWD, etc DO need this since most of their users are 
calling each other.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Snom 190 Elmeg 290?

[Jens Kübler]

Am Samstag 05 März 2005 07:58 schrieb Remco Barende:
 Hi list!

 While looking for the Snom 190 I found another phone, the Elmeg IP 290
 (www.elmeg.de).

 Looking at the pictures  the specs they seem to be very similar beasts
 but the firmware is supposedly not interchangeable.

 Does anyone know the difference between the 2, do they work with Asterisk?

 The weird thing is that Elmeg has similar phones with the Snom look but
 they are ISDN only (no voip) while Snom has several other models that are
 IP. Who's cloning who? I don't want to end up with phones for which
 firmware support or update will disappear soon while the 'orginal' will
 continue to be supported?


Can't say anything about support, but my personal research told me that they 
are the same - no even more they are identical.

Jens
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Snom 190 Elmeg 290?

[tim panton]

On 5 Mar 2005, at 06:58, Remco Barende wrote:
Hi list!
While looking for the Snom 190 I found another phone, the Elmeg IP 290 
(www.elmeg.de).

Looking at the pictures  the specs they seem to be very similar 
beasts but the firmware is supposedly not interchangeable.

Does anyone know the difference between the 2, do they work with 
Asterisk?

The weird thing is that Elmeg has similar phones with the Snom look 
but they are ISDN only (no voip) while Snom has several other models 
that are IP. Who's cloning who? I don't want to end up with phones for 
which firmware support or update will disappear soon while the 
'orginal' will continue to be supported?
The way I heard it was that Snom had some trouble with the mechanical
design of their earlier phones so bought the case design in from an 
existing
ISDN phone maker. I guess that must be Elmeg.

I guess the outer look tells you nothing about the hardware let alone 
the firmware.

Tim.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Snom 190 Elmeg 290?

[Torsten Krueger]

Hello Remco,

On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Remco Barende wrote:

 Hi list!

 While looking for the Snom 190 I found another phone, the Elmeg IP 290
 (www.elmeg.de).

 Looking at the pictures  the specs they seem to be very similar beasts
 but the firmware is supposedly not interchangeable.

 Does anyone know the difference between the 2, do they work with Asterisk?

 The weird thing is that Elmeg has similar phones with the Snom look but
 they are ISDN only (no voip) while Snom has several other models that are
 IP. Who's cloning who? I don't want to end up with phones for which
 firmware support or update will disappear soon while the 'orginal' will
 continue to be supported?

Elmeg has been for a long time a manufacturer of ISDN Phones and small to
medium PBXes in germany. Snom uses the chassis of the elmeg phones and
puts their own electronics in them. So it seems very likely that the elmeg
IP-Phones are in fact Snom phones. I do not wether the firmware can be
changed across elmeg and snom, but if there are no artificial barriers in
place that prevent this this could be possible.

Torsten

 Thx!
 Remco
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Snom 190 Elmeg 290?

[Christian Stredicke]

There is a partnership between Elmeg and snom. We are using their
plastic (in the snom 190/200/220), they are using our hard- and software
(in the Elmeg 290). Elmeg have a long experience in making phones and we
have experience in making hard- and software for VoIP (as long as it can
be in the SIP-based industry). A good partnership!

We call it snom inside...

CS 

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 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between Snom 190  Elmeg 290?
 
 Hello Remco,
 
 On Sat, 5 Mar 2005, Remco Barende wrote:
 
  Hi list!
 
  While looking for the Snom 190 I found another phone, the 
 Elmeg IP 290 
  (www.elmeg.de).
 
  Looking at the pictures  the specs they seem to be very similar 
  beasts but the firmware is supposedly not interchangeable.
 
  Does anyone know the difference between the 2, do they work 
 with Asterisk?
 
  The weird thing is that Elmeg has similar phones with the Snom look 
  but they are ISDN only (no voip) while Snom has several 
 other models 
  that are IP. Who's cloning who? I don't want to end up with 
 phones for 
  which firmware support or update will disappear soon while the 
  'orginal' will continue to be supported?
 
 Elmeg has been for a long time a manufacturer of ISDN Phones 
 and small to medium PBXes in germany. Snom uses the chassis 
 of the elmeg phones and puts their own electronics in them. 
 So it seems very likely that the elmeg IP-Phones are in fact 
 Snom phones. I do not wether the firmware can be changed 
 across elmeg and snom, but if there are no artificial 
 barriers in place that prevent this this could be possible.
 
 Torsten
 
  Thx!
  Remco
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between E1 and PRI

[Altus Snyman]

PRI comes in 2versions E1 European and T1 US
E1 30 channels T1 23 channels 


On Wed, 2005-02-23 at 14:15, Eric Bishop wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I have seen the term E1 and PRI used interchangably when referring to
 a voice service with 30B channels and 1 D channel. Are they just
 different terms for the same thing or is there some technical
 difference. Even Newton's telco dictonary seemed a bit fuzzy on this
 topic. I have seen it said the PRi is a protocol that runs on top of
 E1. Is this true?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between E1 and PRI

[Eric Wieling]

Eric Bishop wrote:
Hi all,
I have seen the term E1 and PRI used interchangably when referring to
a voice service with 30B channels and 1 D channel. Are they just
different terms for the same thing or is there some technical
difference. Even Newton's telco dictonary seemed a bit fuzzy on this
topic. I have seen it said the PRi is a protocol that runs on top of
E1. Is this true?
Think of E-1 as Ethernet (transport) and PRI as IP (protocol).
You could also think of E-1 as IP and PRI as TCP.
You can also think of E-1 as TCP/IP and PRI as FTP.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between E1 and PRI

[Cole Technical Services]

E1 is a European T1. T1/E1 is the transport. PRI is the protocol. PRI on an
T1 id 23B+D, PRI on an E1 is 30B+D.

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 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between E1 and PRI
 
 
 Eric Bishop wrote:
 
  Hi all,
  
  I have seen the term E1 and PRI used interchangably when 
 referring to
  a voice service with 30B channels and 1 D channel. Are they just
  different terms for the same thing or is there some technical
  difference. Even Newton's telco dictonary seemed a bit fuzzy on this
  topic. I have seen it said the PRi is a protocol that runs on top of
  E1. Is this true?
 
 Think of E-1 as Ethernet (transport) and PRI as IP (protocol).
 
 You could also think of E-1 as IP and PRI as TCP.
 
 You can also think of E-1 as TCP/IP and PRI as FTP.
 
 
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between E1 and PRI

[Peter Svensson]

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Eric Bishop wrote:

 I have seen the term E1 and PRI used interchangably when referring to
 a voice service with 30B channels and 1 D channel. Are they just
 different terms for the same thing or is there some technical
 difference. Even Newton's telco dictonary seemed a bit fuzzy on this
 topic. I have seen it said the PRi is a protocol that runs on top of
 E1. Is this true?

E1 is a serial line capable of 2048 Mbit. After channelization you have 31
usable 64 kbit channels. One channel (number 16) is used for signalling
(even when using CAS) and the remaining 30 channels are available for
voice.

When you run ISDN PRI over the E1 the ISDN signalling is placed in the 
signalling channel of the E1.

Peter


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between E1 and PRI

[Alistair Cunningham]

Eric,
E1 is a physical layer protocol, like ethernet. It defines a 2Mbps pipe, 
which can be used for data, or can be split into 32 64Kbps telephone 
channels, or a mixture. If used for telephone channels, 30 of these 
channels can carry one telephone conversation each, and 2 carry 
signalling and timing information.

T1 is similar to E1. It is used in North America. It is 1.544Mbps, and 
can carry 24 telephone channels, each of which can carry a telephone 
conversation (but see below).

There are a number of protocols which can run on top of E1. Some of 
these are called CAS, Channel Associated Signalling. Examples are FXS 
loop start and EM wink start. They provide information such as the 
number that was called, and what state the call is in. They're limited 
in what information they can carry, and are slow to set up.

A more modern protocol which overcomes these problems is ISDN. On E1, 
EuroISDN is the standard. On T1, there are different standards from 
different providers. DMS100, DMS250, NI1, and NI2 are common examples. 
ISDN uses one channel (called the D channel) for signalling call 
information. On E1, this is one of the 2 signalling channels, leaving 30 
channels for voice (called B channels). On T1, there aren't any spare 
signalling channels, so one of the voice channels is used, leaving 23 B 
channels for voice.

A PRI (Primary Rate ISDN) is simply an E1 or T1 with ISDN on top of it. 
ISDN gives fast, reliable call setup and hangup detection, and detailed 
information about the call. In the UK, PRI is also called ISDN30.

An important extension to ISDN is Q.SIG, which provides extra signalling 
information that is used when connecting PBX systems.

An alternative to PRI is BRI (Basic Rate ISDN), which is a cheaper 
system for small offices. It has 2 64Kbps B channels for voice, and 1 
16Kbps D channel for signalling. It is sold as an alternative to 
analogue telephone lines. IN the UK, it is also called ISDN2e.

I hope this answers your question! My company offers commercial support 
and installation services for PRI and Asterisk if you need help for 
specific scenarios.

This email may form the basis of a future Integrics Tip. See:
http://integrics.com/tips/
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Eric Bishop wrote:
Hi all,
I have seen the term E1 and PRI used interchangably when referring to
a voice service with 30B channels and 1 D channel. Are they just
different terms for the same thing or is there some technical
difference. Even Newton's telco dictonary seemed a bit fuzzy on this
topic. I have seen it said the PRi is a protocol that runs on top of
E1. Is this true?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between E1 and PRI

[Scott Stingel]

Alistair-
Good writeup!   Question regarding Q.SIG:  Can it be used to solve the 
problem of signaling a remote switch to take a call back and extend it 
to another channel instead?   This, as you know, is always a challenge 
when using IVR in a call centre environment, when one wants to extend an 
IVR call to a live operator without holding up channels in the IVR.

Regards,
Scott Stingel
Emerging Voice Technology, Inc.
www.evtmedia.com
Alistair Cunningham wrote:
Eric,
E1 is a physical layer protocol, like ethernet. It defines a 2Mbps 
pipe, which can be used for data, or can be split into 32 64Kbps 
telephone channels, or a mixture. If used for telephone channels, 30 
of these channels can carry one telephone conversation each, and 2 
carry signalling and timing information.

T1 is similar to E1. It is used in North America. It is 1.544Mbps, and 
can carry 24 telephone channels, each of which can carry a telephone 
conversation (but see below).

There are a number of protocols which can run on top of E1. Some of 
these are called CAS, Channel Associated Signalling. Examples are FXS 
loop start and EM wink start. They provide information such as the 
number that was called, and what state the call is in. They're limited 
in what information they can carry, and are slow to set up.

A more modern protocol which overcomes these problems is ISDN. On E1, 
EuroISDN is the standard. On T1, there are different standards from 
different providers. DMS100, DMS250, NI1, and NI2 are common examples. 
ISDN uses one channel (called the D channel) for signalling call 
information. On E1, this is one of the 2 signalling channels, leaving 
30 channels for voice (called B channels). On T1, there aren't any 
spare signalling channels, so one of the voice channels is used, 
leaving 23 B channels for voice.

A PRI (Primary Rate ISDN) is simply an E1 or T1 with ISDN on top of 
it. ISDN gives fast, reliable call setup and hangup detection, and 
detailed information about the call. In the UK, PRI is also called 
ISDN30.

An important extension to ISDN is Q.SIG, which provides extra 
signalling information that is used when connecting PBX systems.

An alternative to PRI is BRI (Basic Rate ISDN), which is a cheaper 
system for small offices. It has 2 64Kbps B channels for voice, and 1 
16Kbps D channel for signalling. It is sold as an alternative to 
analogue telephone lines. IN the UK, it is also called ISDN2e.

I hope this answers your question! My company offers commercial 
support and installation services for PRI and Asterisk if you need 
help for specific scenarios.

This email may form the basis of a future Integrics Tip. See:
http://integrics.com/tips/
Alistair Cunningham,
Integrics Ltd,
Telephony, Database, Unix consulting worldwide
+44 (0)7870 699 479
http://integrics.com/
Eric Bishop wrote:
Hi all,
I have seen the term E1 and PRI used interchangably when referring to
a voice service with 30B channels and 1 D channel. Are they just
different terms for the same thing or is there some technical
difference. Even Newton's telco dictonary seemed a bit fuzzy on this
topic. I have seen it said the PRi is a protocol that runs on top of
E1. Is this true?
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between E1 and PRI

[dean collins]

Scott,
Do a search on Tromboning I have no idea if asterisk is capable of doing
this but I remember this was a feature introduce into Fujitsu Qsig stack
in or about 94-95 which solved a heap of customer problems at the time
so I remember it was a big deal.


Cheers,
Dean


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Alistair-

Good writeup!   Question regarding Q.SIG:  Can it be used to solve the 
problem of signaling a remote switch to take a call back and extend it

to another channel instead?   This, as you know, is always a challenge 
when using IVR in a call centre environment, when one wants to extend an

IVR call to a live operator without holding up channels in the IVR.

Regards,
Scott Stingel
Emerging Voice Technology, Inc.
www.evtmedia.com


Alistair Cunningham wrote:

 Eric,

 E1 is a physical layer protocol, like ethernet. It defines a 2Mbps 
 pipe, which can be used for data, or can be split into 32 64Kbps 
 telephone channels, or a mixture. If used for telephone channels, 30 
 of these channels can carry one telephone conversation each, and 2 
 carry signalling and timing information.

 T1 is similar to E1. It is used in North America. It is 1.544Mbps, and

 can carry 24 telephone channels, each of which can carry a telephone 
 conversation (but see below).

 There are a number of protocols which can run on top of E1. Some of 
 these are called CAS, Channel Associated Signalling. Examples are FXS 
 loop start and EM wink start. They provide information such as the 
 number that was called, and what state the call is in. They're limited

 in what information they can carry, and are slow to set up.

 A more modern protocol which overcomes these problems is ISDN. On E1, 
 EuroISDN is the standard. On T1, there are different standards from 
 different providers. DMS100, DMS250, NI1, and NI2 are common examples.

 ISDN uses one channel (called the D channel) for signalling call 
 information. On E1, this is one of the 2 signalling channels, leaving 
 30 channels for voice (called B channels). On T1, there aren't any 
 spare signalling channels, so one of the voice channels is used, 
 leaving 23 B channels for voice.

 A PRI (Primary Rate ISDN) is simply an E1 or T1 with ISDN on top of 
 it. ISDN gives fast, reliable call setup and hangup detection, and 
 detailed information about the call. In the UK, PRI is also called 
 ISDN30.

 An important extension to ISDN is Q.SIG, which provides extra 
 signalling information that is used when connecting PBX systems.

 An alternative to PRI is BRI (Basic Rate ISDN), which is a cheaper 
 system for small offices. It has 2 64Kbps B channels for voice, and 1 
 16Kbps D channel for signalling. It is sold as an alternative to 
 analogue telephone lines. IN the UK, it is also called ISDN2e.

 I hope this answers your question! My company offers commercial 
 support and installation services for PRI and Asterisk if you need 
 help for specific scenarios.

 This email may form the basis of a future Integrics Tip. See:

 http://integrics.com/tips/

 Alistair Cunningham,
 Integrics Ltd,
 Telephony, Database, Unix consulting worldwide
 +44 (0)7870 699 479
 http://integrics.com/


 Eric Bishop wrote:

 Hi all,

 I have seen the term E1 and PRI used interchangably when referring to
 a voice service with 30B channels and 1 D channel. Are they just
 different terms for the same thing or is there some technical
 difference. Even Newton's telco dictonary seemed a bit fuzzy on this
 topic. I have seen it said the PRi is a protocol that runs on top of
 E1. Is this true?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between E1 and PRI

[Alistair Cunningham]

Scott,
Yes, and this is one of the principal reasons people choose Q.SIG.
I've worked on quite a few large voicemail servers, and these tend to do 
a lot of transfers for follow-me and operator features. Q.SIG support 
can significantly reduce the number of telephony channels needed, as not 
only are there zero channels in use rather than two during the transfer, 
but transferred calls last significantly longer on average than calls to 
leave or retrieve messages.

You do need to check that the remote end supports this; some older PBXs 
only support parts of the Q.SIG standard.

Alistair Cunningham,
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Scott Stingel wrote:
Alistair-
Good writeup!   Question regarding Q.SIG:  Can it be used to solve the 
problem of signaling a remote switch to take a call back and extend it 
to another channel instead?   This, as you know, is always a challenge 
when using IVR in a call centre environment, when one wants to extend an 
IVR call to a live operator without holding up channels in the IVR.

Regards,
Scott Stingel
Emerging Voice Technology, Inc.
www.evtmedia.com
Alistair Cunningham wrote:
Eric,
E1 is a physical layer protocol, like ethernet. It defines a 2Mbps 
pipe, which can be used for data, or can be split into 32 64Kbps 
telephone channels, or a mixture. If used for telephone channels, 30 
of these channels can carry one telephone conversation each, and 2 
carry signalling and timing information.

T1 is similar to E1. It is used in North America. It is 1.544Mbps, and 
can carry 24 telephone channels, each of which can carry a telephone 
conversation (but see below).

There are a number of protocols which can run on top of E1. Some of 
these are called CAS, Channel Associated Signalling. Examples are FXS 
loop start and EM wink start. They provide information such as the 
number that was called, and what state the call is in. They're limited 
in what information they can carry, and are slow to set up.

A more modern protocol which overcomes these problems is ISDN. On E1, 
EuroISDN is the standard. On T1, there are different standards from 
different providers. DMS100, DMS250, NI1, and NI2 are common examples. 
ISDN uses one channel (called the D channel) for signalling call 
information. On E1, this is one of the 2 signalling channels, leaving 
30 channels for voice (called B channels). On T1, there aren't any 
spare signalling channels, so one of the voice channels is used, 
leaving 23 B channels for voice.

A PRI (Primary Rate ISDN) is simply an E1 or T1 with ISDN on top of 
it. ISDN gives fast, reliable call setup and hangup detection, and 
detailed information about the call. In the UK, PRI is also called 
ISDN30.

An important extension to ISDN is Q.SIG, which provides extra 
signalling information that is used when connecting PBX systems.

An alternative to PRI is BRI (Basic Rate ISDN), which is a cheaper 
system for small offices. It has 2 64Kbps B channels for voice, and 1 
16Kbps D channel for signalling. It is sold as an alternative to 
analogue telephone lines. IN the UK, it is also called ISDN2e.

I hope this answers your question! My company offers commercial 
support and installation services for PRI and Asterisk if you need 
help for specific scenarios.

This email may form the basis of a future Integrics Tip. See:
http://integrics.com/tips/
Alistair Cunningham,
Integrics Ltd,
Telephony, Database, Unix consulting worldwide
+44 (0)7870 699 479
http://integrics.com/
Eric Bishop wrote:
Hi all,
I have seen the term E1 and PRI used interchangably when referring to
a voice service with 30B channels and 1 D channel. Are they just
different terms for the same thing or is there some technical
difference. Even Newton's telco dictonary seemed a bit fuzzy on this
topic. I have seen it said the PRi is a protocol that runs on top of
E1. Is this true?
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Difference between E1 and PRI

[Peter Svensson]

On Wed, 23 Feb 2005, Scott Stingel wrote:

 Good writeup!   Question regarding Q.SIG:  Can it be used to solve the 
 problem of signaling a remote switch to take a call back and extend it 
 to another channel instead?   This, as you know, is always a challenge 
 when using IVR in a call centre environment, when one wants to extend an 
 IVR call to a live operator without holding up channels in the IVR.

That problem goes by many names: tromboning, hairpinning, etc. There are 
several signalling methods, depending on what protocol is spoken by the 
remote switch:

 * q.sig has (can have) support for this
 * Explicit Call Transfer (ECT), used on EuroISDN I think)
 * 2B Channel Transfer, on 5ESS switches

I don't think these are signalled the same way. 

Peter


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