Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-11 Thread Ishfaq Malik
Hi

We use Snom phones pretty exclusively and find them to be really good. 
So long as you get the firmware version up to 7.3.28 you shouldn't have 
any issues.

They are really good for remote configuring and management and also have 
a really nice web interface for the user to use if the phones and PCs 
are on the same network.

Ish

Pascal Bruno wrote:
 I would love to hear some inputs on Aastra and Snom IP phones.



 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Jeff LaCoursiere j...@jeff.net 
 mailto:j...@jeff.net wrote:


 On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Tim Nelson wrote:

  - Gordon Henderson gordon+aster...@drogon.net
 mailto:gordon%2baster...@drogon.net wrote:
  If not using PoE I'd suggest getting a few extra PSUs though -
 that's
  one
  area I have had a few issues with - but maybe it's just been the UK
  ones.
 
  Gordon
 
  The same can be said for the US versions. My experience has been
 it's not a case of 'if' the PSU will fail, but 'when'. In a past
 (less intelligent) life, I deployed a fair number of the GXP2020s
 and GXP2000s. There are not very many of them left that haven't
 completely died(the phone itself), and of those left, they've all
 had power supplies replaced.
 
  I cannot speak for the quality of the later devices from
 Grandstream. After being burned, it's a bit hard to look at them
 again when there are so many other quality devices available
 (think Polycom, Aastra, etc).
 
  --Tim
 

 I haven't used any standard Grandstream IP phones, but I am
 *trying* to
 stabalize the new video phones they have come up with.  I have several
 GXV3000 and GXV3140s.  I got through central provisioning using
 their java
 based tool and for the most part these phones work, but have very odd
 bugs.  If left to itself for more than a few days the 3140 simply
 stops
 answering calls.  The 3000 has very odd DTMF issues - like
 doubling every
 digit pressed.  This is all fine and I know they are new products, but
 what is frustrating is Grandstream's lack of support.  The forums
 are next
 to useless, and the firmware releases are always coming very soon.

 Then there are my horrid experiences with their FXO gateways.
  Echo, bad
 audio in general, needing a reboot every few days, etc.  Again,
 support is
 non existant.

 So regardless of the quality of the latest phones, the company itself
 leaves a lot to be desired IMO.

 j

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-11 Thread Brian
On the 'used' market I can't really fault the Swissvoice 1P10S (The SIP
version). Web Browser/Phone configuration, simple, works flawlessly with
Asterisk, can take a headset and around £10-£20 used.


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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-11 Thread Philipp von Klitzing
Hi!

 On the 'used' market I can't really fault the Swissvoice 1P10S (The
 SIP version). Web Browser/Phone configuration, simple, works flawlessly
 with Asterisk, can take a headset and around £10-£20 used. 

Agreed - but do note that this is a single line phone (correct me if I am 
wrong). And although hardly anyone will be interested: It also works fine 
with Asterisk using MGCP instead of SIP.

By the way it appears that Innovaphone is still selling this as IP110.
http://www.innovaphone.com/index.php?id=125L=0

The latest SIP firmware I am aware of is dated Jul 2006: build 101b4
If anyone happens to know about a later version I'd be interested to 
learn more about it.

Philipp


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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-11 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:

 I haven't used any standard Grandstream IP phones, but I am *trying* to
 stabalize the new video phones they have come up with.  I have several
 GXV3000 and GXV3140s.  I got through central provisioning using their java
 based tool and for the most part these phones work, but have very odd
 bugs.  If left to itself for more than a few days the 3140 simply stops
 answering calls.  The 3000 has very odd DTMF issues - like doubling every
 digit pressed.  This is all fine and I know they are new products, but
 what is frustrating is Grandstream's lack of support.  The forums are next
 to useless, and the firmware releases are always coming very soon.

I have 4 GXV 3000's.

They're in a residential setting - my own/wifes family so we can keep 
in-touch and see the new baby...

I would not recomend them for business use just yet though - and by the 
sounds of it, the others have issues too.

And the 3000's are not that new - at least a year old!

 Then there are my horrid experiences with their FXO gateways.  Echo, bad
 audio in general, needing a reboot every few days, etc.  Again, support is
 non existant.

I've rescued 2 companies so-far from their PBX device and installed 
Asterisk boxes. The few handytones I've used have seemed OK though.

 So regardless of the quality of the latest phones, the company itself
 leaves a lot to be desired IMO.

Even though I use their phones, I'd have to agree here. They do have some 
nice innovations, but I get the feeling that they've bitten off more than 
they can chew - for the money I've not found anything better than the 
GXP2000 - and my clients, who always seem to be budget concious SMEs 
(mostly 5-20 staff) like them too, but ...

But Grandstream, if you're listening - Get a Grip! You could have 
something really good here, if only ...

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-11 Thread Alex Balashov
I have always found that the marginal extra cost of a Polycom, Snom or  
Cisco phone is very, very well worth it in the long run versus the  
giant catastrophe that is Grandstream and other low-budget hardware.  
The customers seem to agree.

Budget-conscious doesn't have to mean masochistic.

--
Sent from mobile device

On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:37 AM, Gordon Henderson gordon+aster...@drogon.net 
  wrote:

 On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:

 I haven't used any standard Grandstream IP phones, but I am  
 *trying* to
 stabalize the new video phones they have come up with.  I have  
 several
 GXV3000 and GXV3140s.  I got through central provisioning using  
 their java
 based tool and for the most part these phones work, but have very odd
 bugs.  If left to itself for more than a few days the 3140 simply  
 stops
 answering calls.  The 3000 has very odd DTMF issues - like doubling  
 every
 digit pressed.  This is all fine and I know they are new products,  
 but
 what is frustrating is Grandstream's lack of support.  The forums  
 are next
 to useless, and the firmware releases are always coming very soon.

 I have 4 GXV 3000's.

 They're in a residential setting - my own/wifes family so we can  
 keep
 in-touch and see the new baby...

 I would not recomend them for business use just yet though - and by  
 the
 sounds of it, the others have issues too.

 And the 3000's are not that new - at least a year old!

 Then there are my horrid experiences with their FXO gateways.   
 Echo, bad
 audio in general, needing a reboot every few days, etc.  Again,  
 support is
 non existant.

 I've rescued 2 companies so-far from their PBX device and installed
 Asterisk boxes. The few handytones I've used have seemed OK though.

 So regardless of the quality of the latest phones, the company itself
 leaves a lot to be desired IMO.

 Even though I use their phones, I'd have to agree here. They do have  
 some
 nice innovations, but I get the feeling that they've bitten off more  
 than
 they can chew - for the money I've not found anything better than the
 GXP2000 - and my clients, who always seem to be budget concious SMEs
 (mostly 5-20 staff) like them too, but ...

 But Grandstream, if you're listening - Get a Grip! You could have
 something really good here, if only ...

 Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-11 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010, Alex Balashov wrote:

 I have always found that the marginal extra cost of a Polycom, Snom or
 Cisco phone is very, very well worth it in the long run versus the
 giant catastrophe that is Grandstream and other low-budget hardware.
 The customers seem to agree.

 Budget-conscious doesn't have to mean masochistic.

I actually give customers the choice - maybe that's their downfall!

(or mine!)

But the GXP2000 has been a very good platform for me. I'm still happy to 
use it.

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-11 Thread Sebastian Milioto
SPA504G seems to be a good choice since I don't want to have any issues and
this still have the same provisioning scheme I'm working right now.
Also I like the HD feature.. what is the bandwith consumption for that
feature? It will work only between 2 spa504 right? or any G722 device can
interoperate with it?

Sebastian
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-11 Thread Robert Broyles
Sebastian Milioto wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have to install 25 IP Phone in some building. I want just basic IP 
 Phones like:


 Cisco-Linksys SPA922  u$s 146
 Grandstream GXP-2000   u$s 105
 Snom 300   u$s 119

 The most valuables parameters for me are (in importance order from 
 high to low):

 - Stability (device don't hang in any way)
 - Voice quality using G729
 - Provisioning

 So what device do you suggest according I said above?
 Is there another device which deserves attention?

 Thanks very much in advance,

 Sebastian


 
 Sebastian Milioto
 ITC
 Cid Campeadro 440
 Rio Tercero, Cordoba, Argentina
 msn: sebamili...@hotmail.com mailto:sebamili...@hotmail.com
 

We use Linksys SPA's and SNOM in our offices, and couldn't be happier.



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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-11 Thread mtha...@gmail.com
try Yealink, this is damn good phone and we distribute  in India.

Rgards

MT Kondela
www.kevesystems.com

On 2/10/10, Sebastian Milioto smili...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have to install 25 IP Phone in some building. I want just basic IP Phones
 like:


 Cisco-Linksys SPA922  u$s 146
 Grandstream GXP-2000   u$s 105
 Snom 300   u$s 119

 The most valuables parameters for me are (in importance order from high to
 low):

 - Stability (device don't hang in any way)
 - Voice quality using G729
 - Provisioning

 So what device do you suggest according I said above?
 Is there another device which deserves attention?

 Thanks very much in advance,

 Sebastian


 
 Sebastian Milioto
 ITC
 Cid Campeadro 440
 Rio Tercero, Cordoba, Argentina
 msn: sebamili...@hotmail.com
 


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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-10 Thread Peder
Don't use Grandstream if you want quality and stability.  Also check out the
Cisco SPA504G.  They are the newer versions of the SPA922, support multiple
lines and are fairly cheap too.

 

From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Sebastian
Milioto
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:39 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

 

Hi all,

I have to install 25 IP Phone in some building. I want just basic IP Phones
like:


Cisco-Linksys SPA922  u$s 146 
Grandstream GXP-2000   u$s 105
Snom 300   u$s 119 

The most valuables parameters for me are (in importance order from high to
low):

- Stability (device don't hang in any way)
- Voice quality using G729
- Provisioning

So what device do you suggest according I said above?
Is there another device which deserves attention?

Thanks very much in advance,

Sebastian



Sebastian Milioto
ITC 
Cid Campeadro 440
Rio Tercero, Cordoba, Argentina
msn: sebamili...@hotmail.com


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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-10 Thread Dan Journo
I was recommended Polycom phones. I tested some. And now, I LOVE them.

Look at the Polycom IP321.

It's a great phone with provisioning and two lines. Dont know about G729, but 
I'd be surprised if it didn't support it.


From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Peder
Sent: 10 February 2010 15:51
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

Don't use Grandstream if you want quality and stability.  Also check out the 
Cisco SPA504G.  They are the newer versions of the SPA922, support multiple 
lines and are fairly cheap too.

From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com 
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Sebastian Milioto
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:39 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

Hi all,

I have to install 25 IP Phone in some building. I want just basic IP Phones 
like:


Cisco-Linksys SPA922  u$s 146
Grandstream GXP-2000   u$s 105
Snom 300   u$s 119

The most valuables parameters for me are (in importance order from high to low):

- Stability (device don't hang in any way)
- Voice quality using G729
- Provisioning

So what device do you suggest according I said above?
Is there another device which deserves attention?

Thanks very much in advance,

Sebastian



Sebastian Milioto
ITC
Cid Campeadro 440
Rio Tercero, Cordoba, Argentina
msn: sebamili...@hotmail.commailto:sebamili...@hotmail.com

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-10 Thread Steve Howes
On 10 Feb 2010, at 15:50, Peder wrote:
 check out the Cisco SPA504G.  They are the newer versions of the  
 SPA922, support multiple lines and are fairly cheap too.

I second that. They're rock solid, good audio quality and easy to  
provision.

S

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-10 Thread William Stillwell (Lists)
Polycom 331's are also in the same price range, and offer good features as
well.

 

All my polycoms are provisions with option 66 on dhcp, and an ftp site with
cfg files that are build from a mysql database from sip users table.

 

From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Peder
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:51 AM
To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

 

Don't use Grandstream if you want quality and stability.  Also check out the
Cisco SPA504G.  They are the newer versions of the SPA922, support multiple
lines and are fairly cheap too.

 

From: asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Sebastian
Milioto
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:39 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

 

Hi all,

I have to install 25 IP Phone in some building. I want just basic IP Phones
like:


Cisco-Linksys SPA922  u$s 146 
Grandstream GXP-2000   u$s 105
Snom 300   u$s 119 

The most valuables parameters for me are (in importance order from high to
low):

- Stability (device don't hang in any way)
- Voice quality using G729
- Provisioning

So what device do you suggest according I said above?
Is there another device which deserves attention?

Thanks very much in advance,

Sebastian



Sebastian Milioto
ITC 
Cid Campeadro 440
Rio Tercero, Cordoba, Argentina
msn: sebamili...@hotmail.com


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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-10 Thread Tommy Botten Jensen
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I'd like to jump in here as well, with the Aastra 57i. It is easy to
configure with asterisk, provision and is not that badly priced either.

- - Tommy

William Stillwell (Lists) skrev:
 Polycom 331’s are also in the same price range, and offer good features
 as well.
 
  
 
 All my polycoms are provisions with option 66 on dhcp, and an ftp site
 with cfg files that are build from a mysql database from sip users table.
 
  
 
 *From:* asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
 [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Peder
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:51 AM
 *To:* 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion'
 *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation
 
  
 
 Don’t use Grandstream if you want quality and stability.  Also check out
 the Cisco SPA504G.  They are the newer versions of the SPA922, support
 multiple lines and are fairly cheap too.
 
  
 
 *From:* asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com
 [mailto:asterisk-users-boun...@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of
 *Sebastian Milioto
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:39 AM
 *To:* Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
 *Subject:* [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation
 
  
 
 Hi all,
 
 I have to install 25 IP Phone in some building. I want just basic IP
 Phones like:
 
 
 Cisco-Linksys SPA922  u$s 146
 Grandstream GXP-2000   u$s 105
 Snom 300   u$s 119
 
 The most valuables parameters for me are (in importance order from high
 to low):
 
 - Stability (device don't hang in any way)
 - Voice quality using G729
 - Provisioning
 
 So what device do you suggest according I said above?
 Is there another device which deserves attention?
 
 Thanks very much in advance,
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-10 Thread Peter
On 10.2.2010 18:06, Steve Howes wrote:
 On 10 Feb 2010, at 15:50, Peder wrote:
 check out the Cisco SPA504G.  They are the newer versions of the  
 SPA922, support multiple lines and are fairly cheap too.
 
 I second that. They're rock solid, good audio quality and easy to  
 provision.
 
 S
 


SPA504G - 1 more vote for it.

It is worth having 4 lines even if you need 1 initially.

SPA504G supports G722 and sound is awesome even if you do not not use
teh HD sound. If you do not care that mcuh about HD sound  and do not
need PoE SPA941 is a excellent choice -  you get really a lot for the price

Peter

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-10 Thread Sebastian Milioto
I see... problem with spa941 is it dont have LAN port (I'm thinking NAT the
customer PC)


Sebastian



On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:10 PM, Peter peterp...@aboutsupport.com wrote:

 On 10.2.2010 18:06, Steve Howes wrote:
  On 10 Feb 2010, at 15:50, Peder wrote:
  check out the Cisco SPA504G.  They are the newer versions of the
  SPA922, support multiple lines and are fairly cheap too.
 
  I second that. They're rock solid, good audio quality and easy to
  provision.
 
  S
 


 SPA504G - 1 more vote for it.

 It is worth having 4 lines even if you need 1 initially.

 SPA504G supports G722 and sound is awesome even if you do not not use
 teh HD sound. If you do not care that mcuh about HD sound  and do not
 need PoE SPA941 is a excellent choice -  you get really a lot for the price

 Peter

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-10 Thread Brent Torrenga
SPA504G - 1 more vote for it.

It is worth having 4 lines even if you need 1 initially.

SPA504G supports G722 and sound is awesome even if you do not not use
teh HD sound. If you do not care that mcuh about HD sound  and do not
need PoE SPA941 is a excellent choice -  you get really a lot for the price

Peter

Coming from someone who uses 7940's and 60's:  has Cisco/Linksys embraced
SIP compatibility with asterisk more completely with the SPA504G's than they
have the 7940 series?  Lack of features on the 7940's is frustrating, and
makes me hesitant to try other Cisco phones, even if the SPA504G is newer.

--Brent


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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-10 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Brent Torrenga li...@torrenga.com wrote:

 Coming from someone who uses 7940's and 60's:  has Cisco/Linksys embraced
 SIP compatibility with asterisk more completely with the SPA504G's than they
 have the 7940 series?  Lack of features on the 7940's is frustrating, and
 makes me hesitant to try other Cisco phones, even if the SPA504G is newer.

SIP support in newer generations of the 79XX series is much better.  I
believe that their goal is to have 100% feature parity between the SIP
and the SCCP images, they are probably 90% now.  Whether Asterisk
supports all of those features is another matter though.

-- 
Jeff Ollie

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-10 Thread Warren Selby
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Brent Torrenga li...@torrenga.com wrote:

 Coming from someone who uses 7940's and 60's:  has Cisco/Linksys embraced
 SIP compatibility with asterisk more completely with the SPA504G's than
 they
 have the 7940 series?  Lack of features on the 7940's is frustrating, and
 makes me hesitant to try other Cisco phones, even if the SPA504G is newer.

 --Brent


I talked to the Cisco SPA guy at the 2009 Astricon convention about this -
according to him, the SPA line is a completely different team than the 79xx
series team. Thus, the SPA (and especially the new SPA5xx series) had better
support for SIP out of the box, because that's what they were originally
designed for (whereas the 79xx series was built for SCCP and CUCM).  There
was even a document (https://www.myciscocommunity.com/docs/DOC-10647) that
listed how to make the SPA5xx series phones work with asterisk.

The phones were really nice, but I haven't seen one outside of a
demonstration environment.  As far the OP's question, I've successfully used
Polycom, Cisco, and Aastra phones, all in the price range listed, that have
been very nice and support all the options you've requested.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-10 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Sebastian Milioto wrote:

 Hi all,

 I have to install 25 IP Phone in some building. I want just basic IP Phones
 like:


 Cisco-Linksys SPA922  u$s 146
 Grandstream GXP-2000   u$s 105
 Snom 300   u$s 119

 The most valuables parameters for me are (in importance order from high to
 low):

 - Stability (device don't hang in any way)
 - Voice quality using G729
 - Provisioning

 So what device do you suggest according I said above?
 Is there another device which deserves attention?

Since you've had one negative for the Grandstream, I'll balance it and 
give them a positive...

Now, it's true to say that Grandstream phones haven't been without their 
probems in the past, but the current generation are really nice. The 
GXP2000 has been about for a long time too and I've not had any issues 
with them in the past 18 months or so. They've undergone a few hardware 
revisions too. I statically provision all my phones and use a perl utility 
called gsutil. They can be provisioned from a tftp server though, but I've 
never done this.

They sound fine, and have plenty of features that are easy to use - call 
transfer - big backlit display (now variable contrast and brigtness) 7 
easy to use speed dial/BLF buttons, etc.

If not using PoE I'd suggest getting a few extra PSUs though - that's one 
area I have had a few issues with - but maybe it's just been the UK ones.

Gordon

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-10 Thread Peter
SPA504G is LINKSYS with newer look  and HD :-)
Expect all you had in Linksys SPA9XX + more.

I personaly have both phones - differences are not  a lot :)
Peter




On 10.2.2010 20:31, Jeffrey Ollie wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Brent Torrenga li...@torrenga.com wrote:

 Coming from someone who uses 7940's and 60's:  has Cisco/Linksys embraced
 SIP compatibility with asterisk more completely with the SPA504G's than they
 have the 7940 series?  Lack of features on the 7940's is frustrating, and
 makes me hesitant to try other Cisco phones, even if the SPA504G is newer.
 
 SIP support in newer generations of the 79XX series is much better.  I
 believe that their goal is to have 100% feature parity between the SIP
 and the SCCP images, they are probably 90% now.  Whether Asterisk
 supports all of those features is another matter though.
 

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-10 Thread Tim Nelson
- Gordon Henderson gordon+aster...@drogon.net wrote:
 If not using PoE I'd suggest getting a few extra PSUs though - that's
 one 
 area I have had a few issues with - but maybe it's just been the UK
 ones.
 
 Gordon

The same can be said for the US versions. My experience has been it's not a 
case of 'if' the PSU will fail, but 'when'. In a past (less intelligent) life, 
I deployed a fair number of the GXP2020s and GXP2000s. There are not very many 
of them left that haven't completely died(the phone itself), and of those left, 
they've all had power supplies replaced.

I cannot speak for the quality of the later devices from Grandstream. After 
being burned, it's a bit hard to look at them again when there are so many 
other quality devices available (think Polycom, Aastra, etc).

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-10 Thread Philipp von Klitzing
Hi!

 Lack of features on the 7940's is frustrating, and makes me hesitant to
 try other Cisco phones, even if the SPA504G is newer. 

Here are two quotes that make me stay away from Cisco/Linksys:

Firmware can be downloaded from the Cisco Support Center (registered 
partners only - password required) [...]
Here is a 96-second screencast showing navigation to the firmware:
http://screencast.com/t/CUnxfoAX;

A 1.5 min screencast to explain how to download firmware?! ;-)

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-10 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere

On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Tim Nelson wrote:

 - Gordon Henderson gordon+aster...@drogon.net wrote:
 If not using PoE I'd suggest getting a few extra PSUs though - that's
 one
 area I have had a few issues with - but maybe it's just been the UK
 ones.

 Gordon

 The same can be said for the US versions. My experience has been it's not a 
 case of 'if' the PSU will fail, but 'when'. In a past (less intelligent) 
 life, I deployed a fair number of the GXP2020s and GXP2000s. There are not 
 very many of them left that haven't completely died(the phone itself), and of 
 those left, they've all had power supplies replaced.

 I cannot speak for the quality of the later devices from Grandstream. After 
 being burned, it's a bit hard to look at them again when there are so many 
 other quality devices available (think Polycom, Aastra, etc).

 --Tim


I haven't used any standard Grandstream IP phones, but I am *trying* to 
stabalize the new video phones they have come up with.  I have several 
GXV3000 and GXV3140s.  I got through central provisioning using their java 
based tool and for the most part these phones work, but have very odd 
bugs.  If left to itself for more than a few days the 3140 simply stops 
answering calls.  The 3000 has very odd DTMF issues - like doubling every 
digit pressed.  This is all fine and I know they are new products, but 
what is frustrating is Grandstream's lack of support.  The forums are next 
to useless, and the firmware releases are always coming very soon.

Then there are my horrid experiences with their FXO gateways.  Echo, bad 
audio in general, needing a reboot every few days, etc.  Again, support is 
non existant.

So regardless of the quality of the latest phones, the company itself 
leaves a lot to be desired IMO.

j

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-10 Thread Warren Selby
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Philipp von Klitzing 
klitz...@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de wrote:

 Here are two quotes that make me stay away from Cisco/Linksys:

 Firmware can be downloaded from the Cisco Support Center (registered
 partners only - password required) [...]
 Here is a 96-second screencast showing navigation to the firmware:
 http://screencast.com/t/CUnxfoAX;

 A 1.5 min screencast to explain how to download firmware?! ;-)


The SPA firmware only requires free registration - you do not need to have a
SmartNET contract to get the firmware (according to their site and the
conversation I had with the Cisco SPA rep at Astricon).

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-10 Thread Pascal Bruno
I would love to hear some inputs on Aastra and Snom IP phones.



On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:36 PM, Jeff LaCoursiere j...@jeff.net wrote:


 On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Tim Nelson wrote:

  - Gordon Henderson 
  gordon+aster...@drogon.netgordon%2baster...@drogon.net
 wrote:
  If not using PoE I'd suggest getting a few extra PSUs though - that's
  one
  area I have had a few issues with - but maybe it's just been the UK
  ones.
 
  Gordon
 
  The same can be said for the US versions. My experience has been it's not
 a case of 'if' the PSU will fail, but 'when'. In a past (less intelligent)
 life, I deployed a fair number of the GXP2020s and GXP2000s. There are not
 very many of them left that haven't completely died(the phone itself), and
 of those left, they've all had power supplies replaced.
 
  I cannot speak for the quality of the later devices from Grandstream.
 After being burned, it's a bit hard to look at them again when there are so
 many other quality devices available (think Polycom, Aastra, etc).
 
  --Tim
 

 I haven't used any standard Grandstream IP phones, but I am *trying* to
 stabalize the new video phones they have come up with.  I have several
 GXV3000 and GXV3140s.  I got through central provisioning using their java
 based tool and for the most part these phones work, but have very odd
 bugs.  If left to itself for more than a few days the 3140 simply stops
 answering calls.  The 3000 has very odd DTMF issues - like doubling every
 digit pressed.  This is all fine and I know they are new products, but
 what is frustrating is Grandstream's lack of support.  The forums are next
 to useless, and the firmware releases are always coming very soon.

 Then there are my horrid experiences with their FXO gateways.  Echo, bad
 audio in general, needing a reboot every few days, etc.  Again, support is
 non existant.

 So regardless of the quality of the latest phones, the company itself
 leaves a lot to be desired IMO.

 j

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-10 Thread Richard Kenner
 I would love to hear some inputs on Aastra and Snom IP phones.

I'm using Aastra 57i phones and like them.  They can provisioned easily
(without ANY entries from a local network).  The support BLF and I'm also
using the XML capability.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP Phone recommendation

2010-02-10 Thread Ira
At 02:18 PM 2/10/2010, you wrote:
I would love to hear some inputs on Aastra and Snom IP phones.

I've have 3 480i-CT Aastra phones in our house for 3 or 4 years now 
with no complaints. Took a year for the firmware to get where it is 
and there were some things I'd like changed, but I can't remember 
what they are any more. Other than loosing 1 cordless handset they've 
been rock solid.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-04 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:18:34AM -0500, Danny Nicholas wrote:
 I will agree with most of what you say about the polycoms, but here is one
 thing to help you out.  The Polycom 501 has an HTTP configuration interface;
 I set up mine thru http://127.0.0.1:8088/asterisk/static/phones where
 /var/lib/asterisk/static-http/phones contains the polycom TFTP directory
 members.

So anybody can ready anybody else's configuration?

(that applies to just about any (T)FTP setup and static HTTP ones)

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-04 Thread Rob Hillis
Cary Fitch wrote:

 We have a bunch of SNOM 360’s we are not using.  I agree they are not
 intuitive to the user.  They work ok in general. I would part with 15
 or so at an attractive price, one or more,

  

 I like the Grandstream 2000 series. Easy to use, easy to set up, good
 web page.  Priced nice on the wholesale market.


Just don't /ever/ upgrade the firmware if you get one that is semi
functional.  My experience with the first five GXP2000s I bought means
that I will not ever consider Grandstream products again.  Maybe I got a
bad batch, but they've been such a nightmare, I'll be happy to never see
the things again.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-04 Thread Gordon Henderson

On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:


Cary Fitch wrote:


We have a bunch of SNOM 360ÿÿs we are not using.  I agree they are not
intuitive to the user.  They work ok in general. I would part with 15
or so at an attractive price, one or more,

I like the Grandstream 2000 series. Easy to use, easy to set up, good
web page.  Priced nice on the wholesale market.


Just don't /ever/ upgrade the firmware if you get one that is semi
functional.  My experience with the first five GXP2000s I bought means
that I will not ever consider Grandstream products again.  Maybe I got a
bad batch, but they've been such a nightmare, I'll be happy to never see
the things again.


I like Grandstreams, but yes, they have had issues in the past, and as you 
say, don't upgrade the firmware if you have one that does what you need it 
to do. New Grandstreams with the 1.6 series firmware have been very good 
indeed.


The issues I've had have been when upgrading new firmware onto old 
hardware. There have been several hardware revisions of the GXP2000 and 
older phones just don't work that well with newer firmware. I have one 
which I bought over 2 years ago with the latest  greatest on it - it 
works, but there are issues with audio quality occasionally (Once or twice 
during a call it buzzes for a few seconds! This doesn't happen with the 
same firmware on newer hardware platforms)


Still - you get what you pay for, and I've yet to find a phone with the 
same features as the GXP2000 for the same price. Most of my customers like 
them - I offer them the choice of Grandstream and Snom - and at nearly 
twice the price for a Snom 360 vs. a GXP2000, most of them go for the 
Grandstreams...


It's almost impossible to get to know every phone type really well - thats 
one disadvantage of an open standard (like Linux distributions!) but it's 
a small price to pay for compatability - I do have customers with Polycom, 
Linksys and ATL phones - all working for them though.


Grandstream, Siemens and Snom (but not Snom for DECT!!!) are the ones I've 
decided to learn the most about... If only I have more time ( money!) to 
play with others...


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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-04 Thread Christian Victor
Right! Whatever somebody likes more! I just say that the Snoms look 
better at the side of my Mac. Wich is of course by far the superiour 
system. ;-)

Chris

John Novack schrieb:
 Hasn't this religious argument/discussion gone on long enough??


 zoach...@securax.org wrote:
   
 I personally find the snom phones to look quite good compared to the 
 american and chinese brands, might be a european thing though :)

 Zoa


 Geraint Lee wrote:
   
 
 I personally find the snom phones to be generally ugly and 
 un-finger-friendly, in terms of reliability and quality, never had 
 any trouble, good phones all in all, i just can't get past the tacky 
 look and feel so don't buy them.

 2009/6/3 Darrick Hartman dhart...@djhsolutions.com 
 mailto:dhart...@djhsolutions.com

 On 06/03/2009 11:47 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
 
  On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:
 
  Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
  We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the
 Polycom IP 320?
  $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice
 quality.
 
  True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the
 Snom, a
  Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned
 long time
  to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should be
  taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is
 through (T)FTP.
 
  They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML
 config
  and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
  nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a very
  expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone
 Snom320)
  puts me off a little.
 
  However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily
 beaten.
  Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.
 
 
  Mainly I suggest it because the OP asked for an inexpensive
 quality phone.
  I agree on the provisioning - the web interface is useless, and
 unless you
  know how to setup the XML files properly you are doomed to a very
  frustrating experience.

 The Polycom 320/330's are nice little phones for the price.

 There are several resources for configuring the phones from the XML
 config files.  If the config files are sane, the phones don't take
 that
 long to reboot.

 This is probably one of the better examples:

 http://www.kfife.com/voip/

 Karl did a good job commenting in the config files where he made
 changes.

 Darrick

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-04 Thread Danny Nicholas
That would be correct, since the TFTP/HTTP setup is a world-readable one.

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To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 09:18:34AM -0500, Danny Nicholas wrote:
 I will agree with most of what you say about the polycoms, but here is one
 thing to help you out.  The Polycom 501 has an HTTP configuration
interface;
 I set up mine thru http://127.0.0.1:8088/asterisk/static/phones where
 /var/lib/asterisk/static-http/phones contains the polycom TFTP directory
 members.

So anybody can ready anybody else's configuration?

(that applies to just about any (T)FTP setup and static HTTP ones)

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-03 Thread Christian Stredicke
Check out the snom 300 or the snom 820...

CS

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Hi all,
  Any good recommendation of IP phone in term of sound quality and
price (reasonable) using with asterisk?
ango

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-03 Thread Geraint Lee
i quite like the aastra 55i phones, i find the sound quality is better than
the polycom sound stations on loud speaker, and handset quality is perfect.

2009/6/3 Christian Stredicke christian.stredi...@snom.de

 Check out the snom 300 or the snom 820...

 CS

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 Hi all,
  Any good recommendation of IP phone in term of sound quality and
 price (reasonable) using with asterisk?
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-03 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 03/06/09 08:37, Rilawich Ango wrote:
 Hi all,
Any good recommendation of IP phone in term of sound quality and
 price (reasonable) using with asterisk?
 ango

Not sure where you are in the world, or what you really need but I like 
the Siemens Gigaset IP DECT phones.

The S685IP is really nice: 
http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2008/04/27/siemens-gigaset-685ip-phones/

HTH

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-03 Thread Rob Hillis
Christian Stredicke wrote:
 Check out the snom 300 or the snom 820...
   


Good lord... talk about two extremes... :)  The Snom 300 is pretty good,
but the 320 is much better and costs around a *third* of what the Snom
820 does.

Stick with the older model snoms.  So far I've seen nothing about the
820 to justify the significant extra expense.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-03 Thread Alex Samad
On Wed, Jun 03, 2009 at 08:23:13PM +1000, Rob Hillis wrote:
 Christian Stredicke wrote:
  Check out the snom 300 or the snom 820...

 
 
 Good lord... talk about two extremes... :)  The Snom 300 is pretty good,
 but the 320 is much better and costs around a *third* of what the Snom
 820 does.

I have been looking at a snom 300, which seems okay. the display goes a
bit haywire occasionally - not sure why yet.

Are the 320 worth the extra money ?

Alex

 
 Stick with the older model snoms.  So far I've seen nothing about the
 820 to justify the significant extra expense.
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-03 Thread Remco Barendse
On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:

 Christian Stredicke wrote:
 Check out the snom 300 or the snom 820...



 Good lord... talk about two extremes... :)  The Snom 300 is pretty good,
 but the 320 is much better and costs around a *third* of what the Snom
 820 does.

 Stick with the older model snoms.  So far I've seen nothing about the
 820 to justify the significant extra expense.

Build quality perhaps? I hope the newer models last longer than 2 
years.


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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-03 Thread Rob Hillis
Alex Samad wrote:
 I have been looking at a snom 300, which seems okay. the display goes a
 bit haywire occasionally - not sure why yet.

 Are the 320 worth the extra money ?

IMO yes, though it really depends on what you want from the phone.

The Snom 320s handle transfers considerably better than the 300s and all
round are a little easier to work with and use.  The 12 programmable
keys that can be used for lines, BLF indication, speed dials as well as
other things are a big plus.  They are easy to configure - and unlike
many other makes of phone do /not/ reboot on the drop of a hat.

The only real problem I have with the Snom 320 is the display - the
display is a bit too small and /isn't/ backlit. considerably better than
the 300s.  Having said that, the display on the 320s are still much
better than those of the 300s.

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-03 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere

On Wed, 3 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:

 Alex Samad wrote:
 I have been looking at a snom 300, which seems okay. the display goes a
 bit haywire occasionally - not sure why yet.

 Are the 320 worth the extra money ?

 IMO yes, though it really depends on what you want from the phone.

 The Snom 320s handle transfers considerably better than the 300s and all
 round are a little easier to work with and use.  The 12 programmable
 keys that can be used for lines, BLF indication, speed dials as well as
 other things are a big plus.  They are easy to configure - and unlike
 many other makes of phone do /not/ reboot on the drop of a hat.

 The only real problem I have with the Snom 320 is the display - the
 display is a bit too small and /isn't/ backlit. considerably better than
 the 300s.  Having said that, the display on the 320s are still much
 better than those of the 300s.


We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the Polycom IP 320? 
$85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice quality.

j

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-03 Thread Rob Hillis
Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
 We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the Polycom IP 320? 
 $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice quality.
   

True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the Snom, a
Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned long time
to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should be
taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is through (T)FTP.

They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML config
and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a very
expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone Snom320)
puts me off a little.

However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily beaten. 
Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.


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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-03 Thread Danny Nicholas
I will agree with most of what you say about the polycoms, but here is one
thing to help you out.  The Polycom 501 has an HTTP configuration interface;
I set up mine thru http://127.0.0.1:8088/asterisk/static/phones where
/var/lib/asterisk/static-http/phones contains the polycom TFTP directory
members.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 9:10 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
 We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the Polycom IP 320? 
 $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice quality.
   

True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the Snom, a
Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned long time
to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should be
taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is through (T)FTP.

They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML config
and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a very
expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone Snom320)
puts me off a little.

However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily beaten. 
Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.


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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-03 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere


On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:

 Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
 We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the Polycom IP 320?
 $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice quality.


 True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the Snom, a
 Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned long time
 to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should be
 taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is through (T)FTP.

 They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML config
 and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
 nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a very
 expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone Snom320)
 puts me off a little.

 However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily beaten.
 Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.


Mainly I suggest it because the OP asked for an inexpensive quality phone. 
I agree on the provisioning - the web interface is useless, and unless you 
know how to setup the XML files properly you are doomed to a very 
frustrating experience.

j

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-03 Thread Darrick Hartman
On 06/03/2009 11:47 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:

 On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:

 Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
 We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the Polycom IP 320?
 $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice quality.

 True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the Snom, a
 Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned long time
 to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should be
 taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is through (T)FTP.

 They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML config
 and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
 nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a very
 expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone Snom320)
 puts me off a little.

 However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily beaten.
 Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.


 Mainly I suggest it because the OP asked for an inexpensive quality phone.
 I agree on the provisioning - the web interface is useless, and unless you
 know how to setup the XML files properly you are doomed to a very
 frustrating experience.

The Polycom 320/330's are nice little phones for the price.

There are several resources for configuring the phones from the XML 
config files.  If the config files are sane, the phones don't take that 
long to reboot.

This is probably one of the better examples:

http://www.kfife.com/voip/

Karl did a good job commenting in the config files where he made changes.

Darrick

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-03 Thread Geraint Lee
I personally find the snom phones to be generally ugly and
un-finger-friendly, in terms of reliability and quality, never had any
trouble, good phones all in all, i just can't get past the tacky look and
feel so don't buy them.

2009/6/3 Darrick Hartman dhart...@djhsolutions.com

 On 06/03/2009 11:47 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
 
  On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:
 
  Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
  We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the Polycom IP 320?
  $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice quality.
 
  True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the Snom, a
  Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned long time
  to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should be
  taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is through
 (T)FTP.
 
  They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML config
  and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
  nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a very
  expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone Snom320)
  puts me off a little.
 
  However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily beaten.
  Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.
 
 
  Mainly I suggest it because the OP asked for an inexpensive quality
 phone.
  I agree on the provisioning - the web interface is useless, and unless
 you
  know how to setup the XML files properly you are doomed to a very
  frustrating experience.

 The Polycom 320/330's are nice little phones for the price.

 There are several resources for configuring the phones from the XML
 config files.  If the config files are sane, the phones don't take that
 long to reboot.

 This is probably one of the better examples:

 http://www.kfife.com/voip/

 Karl did a good job commenting in the config files where he made changes.

 Darrick

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-03 Thread Cary Fitch
We have a bunch of SNOM 360's we are not using.  I agree they are not
intuitive to the user.  They work ok in general. I would part with 15 or so
at an attractive price, one or more, 

 

I like the Grandstream 2000 series. Easy to use, easy to set up, good web
page.  Priced nice on the wholesale market.

 

Cary Fitch

 

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Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:33 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

 

I personally find the snom phones to be generally ugly and
un-finger-friendly, in terms of reliability and quality, never had any
trouble, good phones all in all, i just can't get past the tacky look and
feel so don't buy them.

2009/6/3 Darrick Hartman dhart...@djhsolutions.com

On 06/03/2009 11:47 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:

 On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:

 Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
 We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the Polycom IP 320?
 $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice quality.

 True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the Snom, a
 Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned long time
 to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should be
 taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is through
(T)FTP.

 They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML config
 and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
 nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a very
 expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone Snom320)
 puts me off a little.

 However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily beaten.
 Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.


 Mainly I suggest it because the OP asked for an inexpensive quality phone.
 I agree on the provisioning - the web interface is useless, and unless you
 know how to setup the XML files properly you are doomed to a very
 frustrating experience.

The Polycom 320/330's are nice little phones for the price.

There are several resources for configuring the phones from the XML
config files.  If the config files are sane, the phones don't take that
long to reboot.

This is probably one of the better examples:

http://www.kfife.com/voip/

Karl did a good job commenting in the config files where he made changes.

Darrick

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-03 Thread Singer XJ Wang
I'll put in my $0.02CAD for Polycom. We use the 330s here.

Singer

Geraint Lee wrote:
 I personally find the snom phones to be generally ugly and
 un-finger-friendly, in terms of reliability and quality, never had
 any trouble, good phones all in all, i just can't get past the tacky
 look and feel so don't buy them.

 2009/6/3 Darrick Hartman dhart...@djhsolutions.com
 mailto:dhart...@djhsolutions.com

 On 06/03/2009 11:47 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
 
  On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:
 
  Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
  We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the
 Polycom IP 320?
  $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice
 quality.
 
  True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the
 Snom, a
  Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned
 long time
  to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should be
  taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is
 through (T)FTP.
 
  They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML
 config
  and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
  nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a very
  expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone
 Snom320)
  puts me off a little.
 
  However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily
 beaten.
  Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.
 
 
  Mainly I suggest it because the OP asked for an inexpensive
 quality phone.
  I agree on the provisioning - the web interface is useless, and
 unless you
  know how to setup the XML files properly you are doomed to a very
  frustrating experience.

 The Polycom 320/330's are nice little phones for the price.

 There are several resources for configuring the phones from the XML
 config files.  If the config files are sane, the phones don't take
 that
 long to reboot.

 This is probably one of the better examples:

 http://www.kfife.com/voip/

 Karl did a good job commenting in the config files where he made
 changes.

 Darrick

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-03 Thread zoach...@securax.org
I personally find the snom phones to look quite good compared to the 
american and chinese brands, might be a european thing though :)

Zoa


Geraint Lee wrote:
 I personally find the snom phones to be generally ugly and 
 un-finger-friendly, in terms of reliability and quality, never had 
 any trouble, good phones all in all, i just can't get past the tacky 
 look and feel so don't buy them.

 2009/6/3 Darrick Hartman dhart...@djhsolutions.com 
 mailto:dhart...@djhsolutions.com

 On 06/03/2009 11:47 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
 
  On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:
 
  Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
  We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the
 Polycom IP 320?
  $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice
 quality.
 
  True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the
 Snom, a
  Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned
 long time
  to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should be
  taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is
 through (T)FTP.
 
  They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML
 config
  and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
  nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a very
  expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone
 Snom320)
  puts me off a little.
 
  However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily
 beaten.
  Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.
 
 
  Mainly I suggest it because the OP asked for an inexpensive
 quality phone.
  I agree on the provisioning - the web interface is useless, and
 unless you
  know how to setup the XML files properly you are doomed to a very
  frustrating experience.

 The Polycom 320/330's are nice little phones for the price.

 There are several resources for configuring the phones from the XML
 config files.  If the config files are sane, the phones don't take
 that
 long to reboot.

 This is probably one of the better examples:

 http://www.kfife.com/voip/

 Karl did a good job commenting in the config files where he made
 changes.

 Darrick

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-03 Thread John Novack
Hasn't this religious argument/discussion gone on long enough??


zoach...@securax.org wrote:
 I personally find the snom phones to look quite good compared to the 
 american and chinese brands, might be a european thing though :)

 Zoa


 Geraint Lee wrote:
   
 I personally find the snom phones to be generally ugly and 
 un-finger-friendly, in terms of reliability and quality, never had 
 any trouble, good phones all in all, i just can't get past the tacky 
 look and feel so don't buy them.

 2009/6/3 Darrick Hartman dhart...@djhsolutions.com 
 mailto:dhart...@djhsolutions.com

 On 06/03/2009 11:47 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
 
  On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:
 
  Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
  We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the
 Polycom IP 320?
  $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice
 quality.
 
  True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the
 Snom, a
  Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned
 long time
  to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should be
  taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is
 through (T)FTP.
 
  They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML
 config
  and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
  nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a very
  expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone
 Snom320)
  puts me off a little.
 
  However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily
 beaten.
  Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.
 
 
  Mainly I suggest it because the OP asked for an inexpensive
 quality phone.
  I agree on the provisioning - the web interface is useless, and
 unless you
  know how to setup the XML files properly you are doomed to a very
  frustrating experience.

 The Polycom 320/330's are nice little phones for the price.

 There are several resources for configuring the phones from the XML
 config files.  If the config files are sane, the phones don't take
 that
 long to reboot.

 This is probably one of the better examples:

 http://www.kfife.com/voip/

 Karl did a good job commenting in the config files where he made
 changes.

 Darrick

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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-03 Thread Geraint Lee
you could say it has, and you're right, it probably has :)

but i personally find these threads help make the day pass a little faster

2009/6/3 John Novack jnov...@stromberg-carlson.org

 Hasn't this religious argument/discussion gone on long enough??


 zoach...@securax.org wrote:
  I personally find the snom phones to look quite good compared to the
  american and chinese brands, might be a european thing though :)
 
  Zoa
 
 
  Geraint Lee wrote:
 
  I personally find the snom phones to be generally ugly and
  un-finger-friendly, in terms of reliability and quality, never had
  any trouble, good phones all in all, i just can't get past the tacky
  look and feel so don't buy them.
 
  2009/6/3 Darrick Hartman dhart...@djhsolutions.com
  mailto:dhart...@djhsolutions.com
 
  On 06/03/2009 11:47 AM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
  
   On Thu, 4 Jun 2009, Rob Hillis wrote:
  
   Jeff LaCoursiere wrote:
   We are still talking about a $175 phone.  How about the
  Polycom IP 320?
   $85 at 888voipstore.  Can't go wrong with Polycom for voice
  quality.
  
   True, Polycom's are brilliant for voice quality, but unlike the
  Snom, a
   Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned
  long time
   to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should
 be
   taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is
  through (T)FTP.
  
   They are however, extraordinarily configurable through the XML
  config
   and they are very stable.  Once they're configured they work very
   nicely.  The lack of a decent number of BLF keys (even with a
 very
   expensive sidecar you only get two more keys than a standalone
  Snom320)
   puts me off a little.
  
   However, for a conference phone, the Polycom's can't be easily
  beaten.
   Their handsfree call quality is in a league of it's own.
  
  
   Mainly I suggest it because the OP asked for an inexpensive
  quality phone.
   I agree on the provisioning - the web interface is useless, and
  unless you
   know how to setup the XML files properly you are doomed to a very
   frustrating experience.
 
  The Polycom 320/330's are nice little phones for the price.
 
  There are several resources for configuring the phones from the XML
  config files.  If the config files are sane, the phones don't take
  that
  long to reboot.
 
  This is probably one of the better examples:
 
  http://www.kfife.com/voip/
 
  Karl did a good job commenting in the config files where he made
  changes.
 
  Darrick
 
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Re: [asterisk-users] IP phone recommendation

2009-06-03 Thread randulo
How did I miss thins gem?

       Polycom /will/ reboot on the drop of a hat /and/ take a damned
      long time
       to do it (~45-60 seconds)  In addition, the web interface should
  be
       taken away and shot - the only real way to configure them is
      through (T)FTP.

I didn't say that, I said the person who developed the web interface
should be forced to use it. Which is way worse than being taken out
and shot. Especially when the exit button changes position in the
middle of a menu operation. Maybe they need Flash in the phone?

This said, damn fine sounding phones, especially in g722 on a wideband
conference bridge like the one we talk on every Friday :)

/r

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IP Phone Recommendation

2005-12-14 Thread Sean Kennedy

Kris,

I highly recommend the snom 320.  Very easy to configure, and very easy 
to setup line appearances. 

As has already been mentioned, the idea of lines is a bit dated.
For more information, read this: 
http://forums.digium.com/viewtopic.php?t=891. 


Sean
Duracom ISP Lists wrote:


We are going to replace our existing PBX system with an Asterisks box.  I
have 7 phone lines that come in and I need to get a phone that would support
that many lines at minimum.  Do you guys recommend any phones that you have
used that work well.




Kris
 


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IP Phone Recommendation

2005-12-13 Thread Kristof Hardy

Anders Svensson wrote:

We use Grandstream GPX2000 for this. It works ok. Support 11 lines in basic.
Anders


I also use this phone, have read about the 11 lines, but how does one 
'manage' these lines? The first 4 are easy, you have buttons for that, 
but how can you use the 'others' ? (incoming/outgoing)



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RE: [Asterisk-Users] IP Phone Recommendation

2005-12-13 Thread Anders Svensson
You can use the speeddial buttons. They are configurable

Anders

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Anders Svensson wrote:
 We use Grandstream GPX2000 for this. It works ok. Support 11 lines in
basic.
 Anders

I also use this phone, have read about the 11 lines, but how does one 
'manage' these lines? The first 4 are easy, you have buttons for that, 
but how can you use the 'others' ? (incoming/outgoing)


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RE: [Asterisk-Users] IP Phone Recommendation

2005-12-12 Thread Anders Svensson
We use Grandstream GPX2000 for this. It works ok. Support 11 lines in basic.

Anders

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We are going to replace our existing PBX system with an Asterisks box.  I
have 7 phone lines that come in and I need to get a phone that would support
that many lines at minimum.  Do you guys recommend any phones that you have
used that work well.




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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IP Phone Recommendation

2005-12-12 Thread Mojo with Horan Company, LLC
Often when existing PBXs go and are replaced by IP phones, the 
installer/planner doesn't realize that the tern *lines* isn't really 
correct -- think *appearances* and it might help you visualize your 
needs a little more accurately.  How many simultaneous calls must a 
phone user be in at once?  Typically, all will be on hold except the 
active call anyway.  Does it matter in your situation which 'line' a 
phone user dials out on?  Would they notice if the dial tone being 
played in their ear doesn't come from the phone company directly? 
(maybe the user will dial another internal extension instead of an 
external one, asterisk of course would want to intercept that and not 
waste a phone line in doing so)


See what I'm getting at?  The IP phones don't talk to the PSTN at all. 
They don't know about it.  They just trust asterisk to do it right.


In our office we had to get away from the paradigm of X is waiting on 
line 4 and into the paradigm of I've got Mr. X parked for you on 
extension 704 to make this work, but boy has it beem worth it.


You should have seen my bosses' eyes light up when I told him it was 
trivial to handle calls that hadn't provided callerid info differently.


Moj

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We are going to replace our existing PBX system with an Asterisks box.  I
have 7 phone lines that come in and I need to get a phone that would support
that many lines at minimum.  Do you guys recommend any phones that you have
used that work well.




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RE: [Asterisk-Users] IP Phone Recommendation

2005-12-12 Thread Kerry Garrison
So every person needs to be able to have 7 or more calls on hold at one
time? Usually 2-4 lines is normal as the architecture of an Asterisk system
is generally different from a simple multi-line phone system. You need to
think through the actual usage of the system and how internally Asterisk
manages phone lines. Asterisk can support many many phone lines but each
individual user doesn't need to be able to handle each individual line
seperately. The system manages the lines and dishes them out to individuals
as needed. 
-Kerry


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We are going to replace our existing PBX system with an Asterisks box.  I
have 7 phone lines that come in and I need to get a phone that would support
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used that work well.




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RE: [Asterisk-Users] IP Phone Recommendation

2005-12-12 Thread Ian Cowley
I've been testing various phones with [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1.5

So far I like the Grandstream GXP-2000 for price and ease of
configuration, though SideTone/ComfortNoise only comes with the current
Beta code

I like the SNOM 320 buts its more expensive.
Its more of a business phone and doesn't have that Far Eastern product
feel to it.

I'll be looking at othwer too.

When changing phone system its really important to let the users get a
feel of both handsets and voice mail.

Handset weight
SideTone
Layout
Length of handset cord
Robustness in some environment 

Voicemail
Simplicity/Ease of use
Speed

All the fancy features of the switch are secondary!

IanC


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We use Grandstream GPX2000 for this. It works ok. Support 11 lines in
basic.

Anders

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We are going to replace our existing PBX system with an Asterisks box.
I
have 7 phone lines that come in and I need to get a phone that would
support
that many lines at minimum.  Do you guys recommend any phones that you
have
used that work well.




Kris




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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IP Phone Recommendation ?

2004-08-25 Thread Ryan Courtnage
Gary G. Hendershot wrote:
I have admired the Cisco 7960, the Polycom 600 and the Snom 200 more or 
less in that order of appeal  all seem to be available in about the 
same general price range of $275-$350 street price (used ones for less 
on eBay)  I am new enough to IP telephony gear that I have missed some 
other players that I should consider   
There's a long list of phones here:
http://voip-info.org/wiki-VOIP+Phones
The Uniden UIP200 offers good value (~$150).
what I hope to get from the group is a little guidance from folks out 
there who may have already made a mistake that I should avoid  info on 
any gotchas that I should be aware of would be appreciated 
Uniden gotcha's are also on the wiki:
http://voip-info.org/wiki-UIP200
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IP Phone Recommendation ?

2004-08-25 Thread Greg Broiles
Do you need to use a real VoIP phone at the remote locations,
especially those which will be behind a NAT?

In particular, given that IAX traverses NAT more easily than SIP, I
wonder if you would get better results buying a nice analog desk phone
and an IAXy http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=iaxy. It doesn't
sound like you're otherwise (consumer-grade DSL, legacy Panasonic
stuff) trying to recreate a full corporate KS/PBX experience, just
trying to get voice connections working.

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RE: [Asterisk-Users] IP Phone Recommendation ?

2004-08-25 Thread Jay Milk
Is the poor shlob using Starband?  Don't expect this to work AT ALL.
Search the list for a discussion of the many why-nots of Satellite VOIP.
Give him a cell-phone.

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We will also need to deploy 8 additional units at remote locations that
are on consumer type internet connections . mostly cable and DSL but one
is on a satellite ISP (guy lives in the woods but writes beautiful code)
.  these remotes will need to traverse consumer grade NAT firewalls to
reach the Asterisk server at the main office .


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IP phone recommendation

2004-07-21 Thread clive18
Hi

Out of interest, (this may be not possible) but I think it
would be an excellent idea to modify firmware to handle the
IAX2 protocol. Especially since its a linux based phone.


Thoughts?

Regards
Clive





On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:54:59 +
 Joshua Colp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Yiannis,
 
 I have an ipDialog SipTone II sitting right beside me.
 Overall it is an 
 excellent phone but lacks codecs. It only has ulaw, alaw,
 and g729. The 
 speakerphone is adequate for most things, call
 transferring works, holding, 
 volume controller, conferencing, 2 lines, it pretty much
 all works. The 
 interesting thing about the phone though is that it runs
 Linux. Thanks to 
 ipDialog sending me the firmware I have been able to
 modify it slightly to 
 get a telnet prompt available. I can't release the
 firmware though, who knows 
 what trouble I could get into... but below is a snippet
 of info. Oh, be on 
 the watch... I may end up selling the phone when my
 Ciscos come.
 
 - Joshua Colp.
 
 /proc cat version
 Linux version 2.4.10-uc2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc
 version 2.95.3 20010315 
 (release)) #1 Fri Mar 21 12:39:17 PST 2003
 
 /proc cat cpuinfo
 Processor : STMicro STLC1502 rev 0 (v3l)
 BogoMIPS : 6.55
 Hardware : STMicro STLC1502
 Revision : 
 Serial : 
 
  On Monday 19 July 2004 12:04 pm, Yiannis Costopoulos
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I am looking for some affordable IP Phones. Any
 experiences with the
  SipToneII by ipDialog?
 
  What about soft phones? Any recommendations there
 (for Windoze and
  Linux)?
 
  Thanks,
  Yiannis
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] IP phone recommendation

2004-07-21 Thread Dean Collins
Clive,
Freshtel who provide the Firefly IAX softphone have some IAX hardware
based phones coming out in the next few months.

Cheers,
Dean


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Hi

Out of interest, (this may be not possible) but I think it
would be an excellent idea to modify firmware to handle the
IAX2 protocol. Especially since its a linux based phone.


Thoughts?

Regards
Clive





On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 21:54:59 +
 Joshua Colp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Yiannis,
 
 I have an ipDialog SipTone II sitting right beside me.
 Overall it is an 
 excellent phone but lacks codecs. It only has ulaw, alaw,
 and g729. The 
 speakerphone is adequate for most things, call
 transferring works, holding, 
 volume controller, conferencing, 2 lines, it pretty much
 all works. The 
 interesting thing about the phone though is that it runs
 Linux. Thanks to 
 ipDialog sending me the firmware I have been able to
 modify it slightly to 
 get a telnet prompt available. I can't release the
 firmware though, who knows 
 what trouble I could get into... but below is a snippet
 of info. Oh, be on 
 the watch... I may end up selling the phone when my
 Ciscos come.
 
 - Joshua Colp.
 
 /proc cat version
 Linux version 2.4.10-uc2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc
 version 2.95.3 20010315 
 (release)) #1 Fri Mar 21 12:39:17 PST 2003
 
 /proc cat cpuinfo
 Processor : STMicro STLC1502 rev 0 (v3l)
 BogoMIPS : 6.55
 Hardware : STMicro STLC1502
 Revision : 
 Serial : 
 
  On Monday 19 July 2004 12:04 pm, Yiannis Costopoulos
 wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I am looking for some affordable IP Phones. Any
 experiences with the
  SipToneII by ipDialog?
 
  What about soft phones? Any recommendations there
 (for Windoze and
  Linux)?
 
  Thanks,
  Yiannis
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IP Phone recommendation

2004-07-19 Thread Harry McGregor
On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 09:04, Yiannis Costopoulos wrote:
 Hi,
 
   I am looking for some affordable IP Phones. Any experiences with the
 SipToneII by ipDialog?

So far our experience with the IP Dialog SipToneII is not good.  It
locks up after hang up on us, and just does not play nice.  If anyone
has any suggestions on how to get it working, we are all ears.

The IP Dialog phone is running $200, while the Zip 4x4 is running
$280-300 (depending on qty).  We are deploying ~60 phones.  Originally
we were going to try and do 20 Uniden UIP200 and 40 Zip 4x4.  We were
unable to get our hands on a Uniden, and found that it would not even be
available for an august deployment, so we decided to try the IP Dialog
phone.  The Uniden would have been a very worth while cost savings, as
it's $150 and the Zip is $280 for our qty, but the $80 savings of the IP
Dialog is not worth it to us.

Harry

   What about soft phones? Any recommendations there (for Windoze and Linux)?

Have not tried it but what about PhoneGaim?

 Thanks,
 Yiannis
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IP Phone recommendation

2004-07-19 Thread Brian Elton
I really wish a few users would help me with my Avaya 4602SW SIP phone
as I believe I am the first to try it with Asterisk. Its a very modern
looking phone, I've seen it on froogle for about $135, and it has a
decent set of features, and Avaya is really good quality and has a
good name in telephony.

The Avaya 4602 has been out for a while, but they just released the
SIP firmware for it about 1 week ago. The only issue so far that I
have with it is that it stops working after I get a -- Got SIP
response 481 Call Does Not Exist back from my.home.ip.address which
occurs about 15 or 20 minutes after I plug the phone in, if I reset
the phone it, again, will work for about 15-20 mins.

On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:25:48 -0700, Harry McGregor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 2004-07-19 at 09:04, Yiannis Costopoulos wrote:
  Hi,
 
I am looking for some affordable IP Phones. Any experiences with the
  SipToneII by ipDialog?
 
 So far our experience with the IP Dialog SipToneII is not good.  It
 locks up after hang up on us, and just does not play nice.  If anyone
 has any suggestions on how to get it working, we are all ears.
 
 The IP Dialog phone is running $200, while the Zip 4x4 is running
 $280-300 (depending on qty).  We are deploying ~60 phones.  Originally
 we were going to try and do 20 Uniden UIP200 and 40 Zip 4x4.  We were
 unable to get our hands on a Uniden, and found that it would not even be
 available for an august deployment, so we decided to try the IP Dialog
 phone.  The Uniden would have been a very worth while cost savings, as
 it's $150 and the Zip is $280 for our qty, but the $80 savings of the IP
 Dialog is not worth it to us.
 
Harry
 
What about soft phones? Any recommendations there (for Windoze and Linux)?
 
 Have not tried it but what about PhoneGaim?
 
  Thanks,
  Yiannis
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IP Phone recommendation

2004-07-19 Thread Steve
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On Monday 19 July 2004 12:04 pm, Yiannis Costopoulos wrote:
 Hi,

   I am looking for some affordable IP Phones. Any experiences with the
 SipToneII by ipDialog?

   What about soft phones? Any recommendations there (for Windoze and Linux)?

 Thanks,
 Yiannis

One very nice phone is the Snom 200. Pricing is in the mid to high $200 and 
worth every penny. This phone is built for flexibility.

I can be a five line phone, actually seven. Works well with * and is running 
Linux. You can have handset, speakerphone, special headset ala $135 and a 
normal $30 computer headset. At the same time!

To be a bit nit picky: it does have an unusual cradle. It does not fall or 
slip into it, but it works OK. If you then get a stranded patch cable and 
apply power over ethernet (PoE) you got a very nice combo!

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IP Phone recommendation

2004-07-19 Thread Joshua Colp
Hello Yiannis,

I have an ipDialog SipTone II sitting right beside me. Overall it is an 
excellent phone but lacks codecs. It only has ulaw, alaw, and g729. The 
speakerphone is adequate for most things, call transferring works, holding, 
volume controller, conferencing, 2 lines, it pretty much all works. The 
interesting thing about the phone though is that it runs Linux. Thanks to 
ipDialog sending me the firmware I have been able to modify it slightly to 
get a telnet prompt available. I can't release the firmware though, who knows 
what trouble I could get into... but below is a snippet of info. Oh, be on 
the watch... I may end up selling the phone when my Ciscos come.

- Joshua Colp.

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Serial  : 

  On Monday 19 July 2004 12:04 pm, Yiannis Costopoulos wrote:
  Hi,
 
   I am looking for some affordable IP Phones. Any experiences with the
  SipToneII by ipDialog?
 
   What about soft phones? Any recommendations there (for Windoze and
  Linux)?
 
  Thanks,
  Yiannis
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] IP phone recommendation

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan Littlepage
Hey thanks. Much appreciated!

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 Nathan,
   I am using the Pingtel phones at a customer site.  I 
 should be able to give
 a report in a couple of days
 
 Sincerely,
 Andy Hester
 Consero
 
 
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  Littlepage
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  Has anyone had the opportunity to use a PingTel phone with Asterisk?
 
 
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] IP phone recommendation

2003-08-14 Thread Florian Overkamp
At 08:14 13-8-2003 -0500, you wrote:
Has anyone had the opportunity to use a PingTel phone with Asterisk?
No, I have used the Pingtel softclient though, and it's supposed to be very 
similar. Works pretty well, although I seem to remember something about 
DTMF modes...



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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IP phone recommendation

2003-08-14 Thread Brian West
http://voipstore.atacomm.com/shops/Browse.aspx/27934028032-27934031360.htm

Thats a good start..

bkw

On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Fabrice Tereszkiewicz wrote:

 Hello,

 I would like to buy a SIP IP phone, but I don't know wich one to
 choose... Can you tell me wich IP Phone is known to work with Asterisk
 please.

 I've seen the Cisco 7940, but I don't know if it works, and how
 expensive is it ?

 I'm french, so if you know some french resellers, tell me.

 Thanks a lot,

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IP phone recommendation

2003-08-14 Thread Matthew Hardeman
I've never actually placed a call with the budgetone, but it just looks and
feels cheap.  The Snom is much nicer, and I tend to find that the Cisco
7960s/7940s are quite nice as well.

Matt Hardeman
PaperSoft

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 How about when you compare the SNOM to the Budgetone, which one would you
 recommend for basic telephony?

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 I wasn't refering to the costs of things on ebay.. I was talking about new
 prices..

 Hell you could get a Ferrari on ebay for 20 bucks if you are really
lucky..
 :)

 Later..

  On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 11:45, WipeOut . wrote:
   The Cisco is from what I have heard a good phone but is VERY
expenisve..
  
   My suggestions would be to go with either a SNOM 200 or a Grandstream
 Bugetone..
 
  Where can one get a SNOM 200 for less than a Cisco 7960?  The Cisco's
  are about $300 on eBay (with power supply).  I can't find a SNOM 200 on
  eBay, and retail seems to be $300.
 
  Steve
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] IP phone recommendation

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan Littlepage
Has anyone had the opportunity to use a PingTel phone with Asterisk?

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 IMHO for basic telephony I would say go for the Budgetone, At 
 its price you can't go far wrong and it works..
 
 I have heard some comment that it is too light and so feels 
 cheap but I have had a Snom200 and a Budgetone side by side 
 on the desk in front of me and they both felt the same to 
 use.. In fact the only real thing I don't like about the 
 Budgetone is that it is white..
 
 If you are wanting stylish at a resonable price got for the 
 Snom200 if you are wanting a phone that works with Asterisk 
 and does what a phone should do at a very good price then go 
 for the Budgetone.. You can get 2 Budgetone phone for the 
 price of 1 Snom200..
 
 I have just put a couple of Budgetone's into service for the 
 first time this week and the reports I have got back from the 
 users is that they prefer them to the Snom200.. I was even 
 surprised at that..
 
 Later..
 
  How about when you compare the SNOM to the Budgetone, which 
 one would you
  recommend for basic telephony?
  
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  Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:15 PM
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  I wasn't refering to the costs of things on ebay.. I was 
 talking about new
  prices..
  
  Hell you could get a Ferrari on ebay for 20 bucks if you 
 are really lucky..
  :)
  
  Later..
  
   On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 11:45, WipeOut . wrote:
The Cisco is from what I have heard a good phone but is 
 VERY expenisve..
   
My suggestions would be to go with either a SNOM 200 or 
 a Grandstream
  Bugetone..
  
   Where can one get a SNOM 200 for less than a Cisco 7960?  
 The Cisco's
   are about $300 on eBay (with power supply).  I can't find 
 a SNOM 200 on
   eBay, and retail seems to be $300.
  
   Steve
  
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] IP phone recommendation

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan Littlepage
If I can convince finance I'll get one of the hard phones and see how it
does. I'm trying to push the nifty features and java dev kit they have
for them. Besides, Mitel phones aren't much different in price than
Cisco 7900 series.

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 At 08:14 13-8-2003 -0500, you wrote:
 Has anyone had the opportunity to use a PingTel phone with Asterisk?
 
 No, I have used the Pingtel softclient though, and it's 
 supposed to be very 
 similar. Works pretty well, although I seem to remember 
 something about 
 DTMF modes...
 
 
 
 Met vriendelijke groet,
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] IP phone recommendation

2003-08-14 Thread Uriel Carrasquilla
How about when you compare the SNOM to the Budgetone, which one would you
recommend for basic telephony?

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I wasn't refering to the costs of things on ebay.. I was talking about new
prices..

Hell you could get a Ferrari on ebay for 20 bucks if you are really lucky..
:)

Later..

 On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 11:45, WipeOut . wrote:
  The Cisco is from what I have heard a good phone but is VERY expenisve..
 
  My suggestions would be to go with either a SNOM 200 or a Grandstream
Bugetone..

 Where can one get a SNOM 200 for less than a Cisco 7960?  The Cisco's
 are about $300 on eBay (with power supply).  I can't find a SNOM 200 on
 eBay, and retail seems to be $300.

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IP phone recommendation

2003-08-14 Thread WipeOut .
The Cisco is from what I have heard a good phone but is VERY expenisve..

My suggestions would be to go with either a SNOM 200 or a Grandstream Bugetone..

All these have ben discussed many times in the list so search the archives and read up 
on them..


 Hello,
 
 I would like to buy a SIP IP phone, but I don't know wich one to
 choose... Can you tell me wich IP Phone is known to work with Asterisk
 please.
 
 I've seen the Cisco 7940, but I don't know if it works, and how
 expensive is it ?
 
 I'm french, so if you know some french resellers, tell me.
 
 Thanks a lot,
 
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2003-08-14 Thread WipeOut .
IMHO for basic telephony I would say go for the Budgetone, At its price you can't go 
far wrong and it works..

I have heard some comment that it is too light and so feels cheap but I have had a 
Snom200 and a Budgetone side by side on the desk in front of me and they both felt the 
same to use.. In fact the only real thing I don't like about the Budgetone is that it 
is white..

If you are wanting stylish at a resonable price got for the Snom200 if you are wanting 
a phone that works with Asterisk and does what a phone should do at a very good price 
then go for the Budgetone.. You can get 2 Budgetone phone for the price of 1 Snom200..

I have just put a couple of Budgetone's into service for the first time this week and 
the reports I have got back from the users is that they prefer them to the Snom200.. I 
was even surprised at that..

Later..

 How about when you compare the SNOM to the Budgetone, which one would you
 recommend for basic telephony?
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:15 PM
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 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] IP phone recommendation
 
 
 I wasn't refering to the costs of things on ebay.. I was talking about new
 prices..
 
 Hell you could get a Ferrari on ebay for 20 bucks if you are really lucky..
 :)
 
 Later..
 
  On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 11:45, WipeOut . wrote:
   The Cisco is from what I have heard a good phone but is VERY expenisve..
  
   My suggestions would be to go with either a SNOM 200 or a Grandstream
 Bugetone..
 
  Where can one get a SNOM 200 for less than a Cisco 7960?  The Cisco's
  are about $300 on eBay (with power supply).  I can't find a SNOM 200 on
  eBay, and retail seems to be $300.
 
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] IP phone recommendation

2003-08-14 Thread Nathan Littlepage
I inquired to Grandstream about their resellers and they pointed me to
an establishment that never got back to me with a quote, even after
multiple reminders.

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 My users also like the Budgetones better then the Cisco 7960 
 phones. The 
 Budgetones just handle echo better. (Cisco really need to get 
 there echo 
 problem fixed!)
 
 My only problem with the Budgetones is getting them. We would like to 
 place an order
 for a 100 of them, and can't get Grandstream to take the 
 order!  Anyone 
 know of a resaler that can take big orders on Budgetones?  smile
 
 WipeOut . wrote:
 
 IMHO for basic telephony I would say go for the Budgetone, 
 At its price you can't go far wrong and it works..
 
 I have heard some comment that it is too light and so feels 
 cheap but I have had a Snom200 and a Budgetone side by side 
 on the desk in front of me and they both felt the same to 
 use.. In fact the only real thing I don't like about the 
 Budgetone is that it is white..
 
 If you are wanting stylish at a resonable price got for the 
 Snom200 if you are wanting a phone that works with Asterisk 
 and does what a phone should do at a very good price then go 
 for the Budgetone.. You can get 2 Budgetone phone for the 
 price of 1 Snom200..
 
 I have just put a couple of Budgetone's into service for the 
 first time this week and the reports I have got back from the 
 users is that they prefer them to the Snom200.. I was even 
 surprised at that..
 
 Later..
 
   
 
 How about when you compare the SNOM to the Budgetone, which 
 one would you
 recommend for basic telephony?
 
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 I wasn't refering to the costs of things on ebay.. I was 
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 prices..
 
 Hell you could get a Ferrari on ebay for 20 bucks if you 
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 :)
 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] IP phone recommendation

2003-08-12 Thread Steve Meyers
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 11:45, WipeOut . wrote:
 The Cisco is from what I have heard a good phone but is VERY expenisve..
 
 My suggestions would be to go with either a SNOM 200 or a Grandstream Bugetone..

Where can one get a SNOM 200 for less than a Cisco 7960?  The Cisco's
are about $300 on eBay (with power supply).  I can't find a SNOM 200 on
eBay, and retail seems to be $300.

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