Re: inheritance issues (was: Author and contributor)

2005-05-25 Thread Thomas Broyer
A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Thomas Broyer [2005-05-24 15:15]: A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Thomas Broyer [2005-05-24 09:05]: c) feed: author: A contributor: B entry: contributor: C [...] c) The entry inherits the author but overrides the contributor. I'm also open

Re: Author and contributor

2005-05-24 Thread Janne Jalkanen
Antone Roundy suggests: make atom:author plural keep atom:contributor punt bylines to an extension To me that sounds like the simplest thing that can possibly work, and looks like it hits the 80/20 mark. It also requires the least squabbling over its implementation. And Robert has

Re: inheritance issues (was: Author and contributor)

2005-05-24 Thread Thomas Broyer
: A contributor: B entry: no author not contributor b) feed: author: A contributor: B entry: author: C c) feed: author: A contributor: B entry: contributor: C d) feed: contributor: A entry: author: B contributor: C e) feed: contributor: A entry: author: B

Re: inheritance issues (was: Author and contributor)

2005-05-24 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Thomas Broyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-24 09:05]: a) feed: author: A contributor: B entry: no author not contributor b) feed: author: A contributor: B entry: author: C c) feed: author: A contributor: B entry: contributor: C d) feed

Re: inheritance issues (was: Author and contributor)

2005-05-24 Thread Thomas Broyer
A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Thomas Broyer [2005-05-24 09:05]: c) feed: author: A contributor: B entry: contributor: C [...] c) The entry inherits the author but overrides the contributor. I'm also open to considering it invalid. [...] The rule you propose for contributor semi

Re: Author and contributor

2005-05-24 Thread Asbjørn Ulsberg
On Mon, 23 May 2005 07:22:49 +0200, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: make atom:author plural keep atom:contributor punt bylines to an extension It's the best suggestion made so far that has any potential of getting into the spec until christmas, so I'm +1 on this. :-) -- Asbjrn

Re: inheritance issues (was: Author and contributor)

2005-05-24 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Thomas Broyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-24 15:15]: A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Thomas Broyer [2005-05-24 09:05]: c) feed: author: A contributor: B entry: contributor: C [...] c) The entry inherits the author but overrides the contributor. I'm also open to considering

Re: Author and contributor

2005-05-23 Thread Henry Story
On 23 May 2005, at 07:22, A. Pagaltzis wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (http://www.imc.org/atom-syntax/mail-archive/msg15517.html), Antone Roundy suggests: make atom:author plural keep atom:contributor punt bylines to an extension +1 to all I think that makes sense, especially if one thinks

Re: Author and contributor

2005-05-23 Thread Anne van Kesteren
A. Pagaltzis wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (http://www.imc.org/atom-syntax/mail-archive/msg15517.html), Antone Roundy suggests: make atom:author plural keep atom:contributor punt bylines to an extension To me that sounds like the simplest thing that can possibly work, and looks like it hits

Author and contributor

2005-05-23 Thread Tim Bray
co-chair-modeWe observe a significant amount of discomfort with the current one-author/multiple-contributors model in atom-format. Despite the mentions that Rob dug up, nobody can claim this has had serious in-depth discussion in the IETF context. On the other hand, we note that the

Re: Author and contributor

2005-05-23 Thread Dan Brickley
* Eric Scheid [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-23 15:48+1000] On 23/5/05 3:22 PM, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antone Roundy suggests: +1 make atom:author plural +1 keep atom:contributor € punt bylines to an extension To me that sounds like the simplest thing that can

Re: Author and contributor

2005-05-23 Thread James Aylett
On Mon, May 23, 2005 at 05:56:18AM -0400, Dan Brickley wrote: Antone Roundy suggests: +1 make atom:author plural +1 keep atom:contributor € punt bylines to an extension +1, +1, +.5 from me +1, +.5, +.5 from me. James --

Re: Author and contributor

2005-05-23 Thread Danny Ayers
I'm not 100% convinced of the need for contributor, but in the interests of consensus: +1 make atom:author plural +1 keep atom:contributor +1 punt bylines to an extension Cheers, Danny. -- http://dannyayers.com

Re: Author and contributor

2005-05-23 Thread Robin Cover
+1 make atom:author plural +1 keep atom:contributor - Robin Cover

Re: inheritance issues (was: Author and contributor)

2005-05-23 Thread Eric Scheid
On 24/5/05 9:02 AM, Thomas Broyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is mostly when there are author(s) without contributor in the feed (resp. entry) and contributor(s) without author in the entry (resp. feed). Is the entry author-less (resp. contributor-less) or is it inheriting the feed

Re: inheritance issues (was: Author and contributor)

2005-05-23 Thread Graham
On 24 May 2005, at 12:31 am, Eric Scheid wrote: Second area of concern with writing the spec text - the atom:source element needs to be mentioned in the text about inheritance. My understanding is that inheritance draws first from atom:source (if it exists), and then atom:feed. I'd say

Re: inheritance issues (was: Author and contributor)

2005-05-23 Thread Robert Sayre
On 5/23/05, Eric Scheid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24/5/05 9:56 AM, Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (unrelated question: what's with this plus sign atomLink+ in the atom:source production?) well spotted. That means oneOrMore, while * means zeroOrMore. + is accurate for format-08,

Re: inheritance issues (was: Author and contributor)

2005-05-23 Thread Eric Scheid
On 24/5/05 10:36 AM, Robert Sayre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/23/05, Eric Scheid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 24/5/05 9:56 AM, Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (unrelated question: what's with this plus sign atomLink+ in the atom:source production?) well spotted. That means

Re: inheritance issues (was: Author and contributor)

2005-05-23 Thread Robert Sayre
If an atom:entry is copied from one feed into another feed, then the source atom:feed's metadata (all child elements of atom:feed other than the atom:entry elements) MAY be preserved within the copied entry by adding an atom:source child element, if it is not already present in the entry, and

Re: inheritance issues (was: Author and contributor)

2005-05-23 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Eric Scheid [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-24 01:40]: Consider too a feed which has both authors and contributors at the feed level, an entry with neither authors or contributors (simple case of inheritance), and another entry with a single author and no contributors (does the entry inherit the

Re: Author and contributor

2005-05-22 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-23 07:00]: Unfortunately, among those who want to change the current setup, we do not observe consensus on the subject of what to change them to. Near as we can tell, people want to make atom:author plural, some want to nuke atom:contributor and others

Re: Author and contributor

2005-05-22 Thread Eric Scheid
On 23/5/05 3:22 PM, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Antone Roundy suggests: +1 make atom:author plural +1 keep atom:contributor € punt bylines to an extension To me that sounds like the simplest thing that can possibly work, and looks like it hits the 80/20 mark. It also requires