Re: Organization Use Cases (was: Re: Format spec vs Protocol spec)

2005-02-03 Thread Tim Bray
On Feb 2, 2005, at 12:15 PM, Robert Sayre wrote: 1.) A web forum, where one post serves as the root of a collection of other posts. HTML-- http://groups-beta.google.com/group/bloggerDev/ Atom 0.3, root posts only-- http://groups-beta.google.com/group/bloggerDev/feed/topics.xml

Re: Organization Use Cases (was: Re: Format spec vs Protocol spec)

2005-02-03 Thread Eric Scheid
On 4/2/05 1:15 PM, Tim Bray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3.) A List Status feed, where the only updates consist of one collection replacing another. RSS2 -- http://rss.netflix.com/Top100RSS background info--

Re: Organization Use Cases (was: Re: Format spec vs Protocol spec)

2005-02-03 Thread James Snell
Potential solutions that occur to me: 1. Ignore the problem 2. PaceEntriesElement could handle this 3. PaceFeedRecursive could handle this 4. PaceAtomHeadInEntry could handle this 5. PaceAggregationDocument could handle this I honestly can't say which I prefer. Would anyone like to

Re: Format spec vs Protocol spec

2005-02-02 Thread Walter Underwood
On the other hand, the original plan was to publish both specs at the same time, which I still think is a good idea. Do we think there will be any dependencies in the other direction? That is, when we work on the protocol, will we need to add things to feed or entry? If there is a reasonable

Re: Format spec vs Protocol spec

2005-02-02 Thread Antone Roundy
On Wednesday, February 2, 2005, at 11:56 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: We are assuming that Atom will need extensions for new applications, but it should not need extensions for editing blog entries. I'd have to disagree. I don't think it inappropriate for elements that exist for use by the

Re: Format spec vs Protocol spec

2005-02-02 Thread Joe Gregorio
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 22:05:17 +0100, Julian Reschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One alternative I'd like to mention is to remove all references to the protocol spec from the document spec including the service URI definitions, and to move the latter as extension elements into the protocol spec.

Re: Format spec vs Protocol spec

2005-02-02 Thread Robert Sayre
Walter Underwood wrote: Hmm, I wasn't clear. While we are working on the protocol, will we learn things that need to be applied to the format? The protocol is an application of Atom. There will be lots of others, but this one is core, by definition. Previous feed formats have not had an editing

Re: Format spec vs Protocol spec

2005-02-02 Thread Walter Underwood
--On Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:53:29 AM -0700 Antone Roundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, February 2, 2005, at 11:56 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: We are assuming that Atom will need extensions for new applications, but it should not need extensions for editing blog entries. I'd have

Re: Format spec vs Protocol spec

2005-02-02 Thread Antone Roundy
On Wednesday, February 2, 2005, at 12:33 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: --On Wednesday, February 02, 2005 11:53:29 AM -0700 Antone Roundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, February 2, 2005, at 11:56 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: We are assuming that Atom will need extensions for new

Format spec vs Protocol spec

2005-02-01 Thread Julian Reschke
Hi, (I raised this when reviewing draft 05 already, but I think this topic deserves it's own thread) Currently, the format spec has a normative reference to the protocol spec (and also defines elements for the service URIs, for instance, atom:introspection). As far as I understand the IETF

Re: Format spec vs Protocol spec

2005-02-01 Thread Tim Bray
On Feb 1, 2005, at 1:05 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: Currently, the format spec has a normative reference to the protocol spec (and also defines elements for the service URIs, for instance, atom:introspection). I suggest this can and should be removed. --Tim

Re: Format spec vs Protocol spec

2005-02-01 Thread Robert Sayre
Tim Bray wrote: On Feb 1, 2005, at 1:05 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: Currently, the format spec has a normative reference to the protocol spec (and also defines elements for the service URIs, for instance, atom:introspection). I suggest this can and should be removed. Agree. Robert Sayre

Re: Format spec vs Protocol spec

2005-02-01 Thread Julian Reschke
Robert Sayre wrote: Tim Bray wrote: On Feb 1, 2005, at 1:05 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: Currently, the format spec has a normative reference to the protocol spec (and also defines elements for the service URIs, for instance, atom:introspection). I suggest this can and should be removed. Agree.