RE: IE7 Atom Handling (was RE: Link rel attribute "stylesheet")

2006-03-02 Thread Sean Lyndersay
y Cc: atom-syntax@imc.org Subject: Re: IE7 Atom Handling (was RE: Link rel attribute "stylesheet") Hi Sean, I've been testing IE7 beta 2's support for Atom, with the following test feed: <http://djpowell.net/atom-test/hardfeed/feed/hard-feed.atom> Also here for easier view

Re: IE7 Atom Handling (was RE: Link rel attribute "stylesheet")

2006-03-01 Thread Sam Ruby
David Powell wrote: > 03. atom:published > > While atom:updated is converted to pubDate, atom:published is kept as > atom:published; except, the date format is converted to RFC822 format. > I think that the date format should be kept as-is in ISO8601-style > format. Why is atom:updated converted

Re: IE7 Atom Handling (was RE: Link rel attribute "stylesheet")

2006-03-01 Thread David Powell
Hi Sean, I've been testing IE7 beta 2's support for Atom, with the following test feed: Also here for easier viewing in IE7 Here are the problems that I have found: 01. Pe

Re: IE7 Atom Handling (was RE: Link rel attribute "stylesheet")

2006-02-27 Thread Sam Ruby
Sean Lyndersay wrote: > Thanks James. I’ve filed bugs in our bug tracking database for each of > the issues that came up in the feed validator (except for flagging > /atom:*/ items, since these are a correct use of RSS 2.0 extension > namespaces). Re the flagging of atom: elements: this was indee

RE: IE7 Atom Handling (was RE: Link rel attribute "stylesheet")

2006-02-27 Thread Sean Lyndersay
Behalf Of James Yenne Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 9:37 AM To: 'M. David Peterson' Cc: atom-syntax@imc.org Subject: IE7 Atom Handling (was RE: Link rel attribute "stylesheet")   For anyone interested, I created a validated Atom feed that (http://softwareme.com/ie7te

Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-27 Thread M. David Peterson
On 2/27/06, Antone Roundy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hmm.  If I'm reading that right, I wouldn't want to organize mywebsites that way.     Nor would I.  I wouldn't advocate and actual directory structure as this, and instead a simple disection of the URI/IRI that would then be mapped to the proper

Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-27 Thread Antone Roundy
On Feb 27, 2006, at 8:29 AM, M. David Peterson wrote: When you say "what it was designed for" can you be specific as to what that definition is? Well, we failed to gain consensus on that. Some of us wanted it to be used only for links intended to be traversed by the user (like the element

IE7 Atom Handling (was RE: Link rel attribute "stylesheet")

2006-02-27 Thread James Yenne
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M. David PetersonSent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 10:50 PMTo: James YenneCc: atom-syntax@imc.orgSubject: Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet" If you quickly check the list archives you will notice that this very conversati

Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-27 Thread James M Snell
James Yenne wrote: >[snip] > correct doctype. Perhaps the CSS2 "media" attribute, if added to Atom links > would provide this cue about the format... E.g. media="print, handheld". > Take a look at http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-snell-atompub-link-extensions-02.txt It's complete

RE: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-27 Thread James Yenne
d entry case, to bolster a position to have stylesheet added to the List of Relations. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Antone Roundy Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 7:05 AM To: atom-syntax@imc.org Subject: Re: Link rel attribute "s

Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-27 Thread M. David Peterson
To be a bit more specific to your point:   One problem with this is that there's no machine readable way withoutan extension attribute to indicate what format the stylesheet is going to transform the data to. It seems to me that this could potentially be handled quite easily with the URI/IRI and no

Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-27 Thread M. David Peterson
When you say "what it was designed for" can you be specific as to what that definition is?  Sorry, new to the conversation, but I have particular interest in this topic as it is my belief that the URI/IRI can be used to imply a lot of information that is otherwise hidden from view, or uses more com

Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-27 Thread Antone Roundy
On Feb 26, 2006, at 9:10 PM, James Yenne wrote: My feeds contain a generic xml-stylesheet, which formats the feed for display along with a feed-specific css. Since xsl processors do not have a standard way to pass parameters to xsl stylesheets, I provide this feed-specific css to the xsl p

RE: Link rel attribute "stylesheet" (resend)

2006-02-26 Thread James Yenne
naging editor as required, but exists in the Atom feed author/email, and more.     From: M. David Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:53 PMTo: James YenneCc: atom-syntax@imc.orgSubject: Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet" correction:   servin

Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-26 Thread M. David Peterson
ssing channel element: description [ help] </div>2true   ^ line 19, column 74: Missing channel element: link [help ] </div>2true   From: M. David Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 200

RE: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-26 Thread James Yenne
lumn 74: Missing channel element: link [help] </div>2true From: M. David Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:53 PMTo: James YenneCc: atom-syntax@imc.orgSubject: Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet" correction:   serving the .xml extensi

Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-26 Thread 'A. Pagaltzis'
* James Yenne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-02-27 07:20]: >as James Snell shows, they can be useful in entries also. Yeah, I hadn’t thought about it in terms of styling content in standalone aggregators, only as a hatch for XSL transforms applied for friendlier in-browser presentation. For the lat

RE: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-26 Thread James Yenne
an be useful in entries also. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A. Pagaltzis Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:43 PM To: atom-syntax@imc.org Subject: Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet" * James Yenne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-02

Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-26 Thread M. David Peterson
correction:   serving the .xml extension as with an application/xml extension should read: serving the .xml extension as with an application/xml MIME-type (bunch of other spelling and grammar errors, but I would rather not waste everyones time showcasing something most already know... a first take

Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-26 Thread M. David Peterson
Neat idea :)   > Why does IE7 rip out xml-stylesheet directives. I can only assume your server is serving up the atom file (correctly) as application/atom+xml?  If yes, application/atom+xml is transfered directly to the feed rendering mechanism, bypassing the xml parsing mechanism that would read t

Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-26 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* James Yenne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-02-27 05:25]: >My feeds contain a generic xml-stylesheet, which formats the >feed for display along with a feed-specific css. Since xsl >processors do not have a standard way to pass parameters to xsl >stylesheets, I provide this feed-specific css to the xs

Re: Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-26 Thread James M Snell
I've been experimenting with the use of rel="stylesheet" to provide a relatively safe way of attaching styles to syndicated content. The dangers of allowing embedded styles in syndicated content are well known [1], however, it still makes sense to provide an optional way of allowing publishers an

Link rel attribute "stylesheet"

2006-02-26 Thread James Yenne
My feeds contain a generic xml-stylesheet, which formats the feed for display along with a feed-specific css.  Since xsl processors do not have a standard way to pass parameters to xsl stylesheets, I provide this feed-specific css to the xsl processor in the feed as a link with rel="styleshe