Re: PaceContentAndSummaryDistinct

2005-05-16 Thread Kevin Marks
On May 15, 2005, at 10:24 AM, Tim Bray wrote: On May 14, 2005, at 11:02 AM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: The atom:content element either contains or links to the full content of the entry. An atom:entry containing an atom:content element MUST be a complete representation of the entry. -1

Re: PaceContentAndSummaryDistinct

2005-05-15 Thread Thomas Broyer
A. Pagaltzis wrote: The atom:content element either contains or links to the full content of the entry. An atom:entry containing an atom:content element MUST be a complete representation of the entry. If the atom:entry is not intended to be a complete representation of the entry,

Re: PaceContentAndSummaryDistinct

2005-05-15 Thread Tim Bray
On May 14, 2005, at 11:02 AM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: The atom:content element either contains or links to the full content of the entry. An atom:entry containing an atom:content element MUST be a complete representation of the entry. -1 What does complete mean? This is untestable and

Re: PaceContentAndSummaryDistinct

2005-05-15 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Thomas Broyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-15 17:10]: A. Pagaltzis wrote: The atom:content element either contains or links to the full content of the entry. An atom:entry containing an atom:content element MUST be a complete representation of the entry. If the atom:entry is

Re: PaceContentAndSummaryDistinct

2005-05-15 Thread Thomas Broyer
A. Pagaltzis wrote: Personally, I think the spec should try to make an attempt to nail this down. Maybe the right approach would rather be something along these lines? An atom:entry MUST NOT have both an atom:content and an atom:summary element with identical content. You're right, +1 to

Re: PaceContentAndSummaryDistinct

2005-05-15 Thread Graham
On 15 May 2005, at 10:16 pm, A. Pagaltzis wrote: An atom:entry MUST NOT have both an atom:content and an atom:summary element with identical content. -1 It might solve this exact problem, but in the general case it makes no sense. Let's say I put the first sentence of each post in

Re: PaceContentAndSummaryDistinct

2005-05-15 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-16 01:10]: Let's say I put the first sentence of each post in atom:summary. What happens when I post a one sentence entry? Then you must not put it in the summary. And this is my opinion independent of the pace. An even half-way intelligent user agent would

Re: PaceContentAndSummaryDistinct

2005-05-15 Thread Eric Scheid
On 16/5/05 7:16 AM, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An atom:entry MUST NOT have both an atom:content and an atom:summary element with identical content. +1

Re: PaceContentAndSummaryDistinct

2005-05-15 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-16 01:15]: An atom:entry MUST NOT have both an atom:content and an atom:summary element with identical content. -1 It might solve this exact problem, but in the general case it makes no sense. Besides my point in the other mail, I wanted to

Re: PaceContentAndSummaryDistinct

2005-05-15 Thread James Tauber
On Mon, 16 May 2005 01:16:21 +0200, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: An even half-way intelligent user agent would do something like display a read more link or button when it displays a summary, to alert the user that there is more to be read, either at the atom:[EMAIL

Re: PaceContentAndSummaryDistinct

2005-05-15 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* James Tauber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-16 05:45]: I believe it is reasonable to: 1. include a summary element in my full-content feed in addition to the content element; and Absolutely it is. F.ex, user agents could provide the summary in addition to the title of an entry in a feed

Re: PaceContentAndSummaryDistinct

2005-05-14 Thread A. Pagaltzis
://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceContentAndSummaryDistinct +1 * Antone Roundy [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-05-14 19:10]: Clarifying this point is a good idea. However, The content of atom:content MUST be a complete representation of the entry. isn't quite right, because atom:content doesn't contain

Re: PaceContentAndSummaryDistinct

2005-05-14 Thread Graham
thought it best to make this explicit, hence: http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceContentAndSummaryDistinct I support the sentiment, but the way it's written is awful. We could just change: The atom:content element either contains or links to the content of the entry