Re: Feed History -02

2005-07-18 Thread Stefan Eissing
On a more semantic issue: The described sync algorithm will work. In most scenarios the abort condition (e.g. all items on a historical feed are known) will also do the job. However this still means that clients need to check the first fh:prev document if they know all entries there - if my

Re: Feed History -02

2005-07-18 Thread Stefan Eissing
Am 18.07.2005 um 19:33 schrieb Mark Nottingham: On 18/07/2005, at 1:29 PM, Stefan Eissing wrote: I agree that special URIs are not that great either. Another idea might be nested elements: stateful feed: fh:historyfh:prevhttp://example.org/thingie1.1/fh:prev/fh: history stateful

Re: Feed History -02

2005-07-18 Thread Stefan Eissing
Am 18.07.2005 um 18:59 schrieb James M Snell: Mark Nottingham wrote: On 18/07/2005, at 11:10 AM, James M Snell wrote: Ch 3. fh:stateful seems to be only needed for a newborn stateful feed. As an alternative one could drop fh:stateful and define that an empty fh:prev (refering to

Re: Feed History -02

2005-07-19 Thread Stefan Eissing
Am 18.07.2005 um 23:21 schrieb Mark Nottingham: On 18/07/2005, at 2:17 PM, Stefan Eissing wrote: On a more semantic issue: The described sync algorithm will work. In most scenarios the abort condition (e.g. all items on a historical feed are known) will also do the job. However this still

Re: Feed History -02

2005-07-22 Thread Stefan Eissing
Am 21.07.2005 um 16:13 schrieb Mark Nottingham: On 19/07/2005, at 1:48 AM, Stefan Eissing wrote: [...] I have the feeling that clients will need to protect themselves from servers with almost infinite histories. So a client will probably offer a XX days into the past, max NN entries

Re: Feed History -03

2005-08-16 Thread Stefan Eissing
Am 16.08.2005 um 17:42 schrieb Mark Nottingham: On 16/08/2005, at 1:27 AM, Stefan Eissing wrote: [...] Ch. 5 similar: MUST occur unless. If the document is an archive there are only 2 possiblities: either fh:prev is there or not. If not it will always terminate the archive list, won't

Re: Feed History: stateful - incremental?

2005-08-25 Thread Stefan Eissing
Am 25.08.2005 um 00:07 schrieb Mark Nottingham: Just bouncing an idea around; it seems that there's a fair amount of confusion / fuzziness caused by the term 'stateful'. Would people prefer the term 'incremental'? I.e., instead of a stateful feed, it would be an incremental feed;

Re: Feed History -04

2005-09-13 Thread Stefan Eissing
Am 07.09.2005 um 01:18 schrieb Mark Nottingham: Feed History -04 is out, at: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-nottingham-atompub-feed- history-04.txt Good! I think it is now easy to understand where the spec applies and how the different elements interact. I just wish I

Re: Feed History -04

2005-10-14 Thread Stefan Eissing
Am 14.10.2005 um 20:00 schrieb James Holderness: Mark Nottingham wrote: Hmm. Yeah, I see what you're saying. Actually, I think this is an opportunity -- we we define a new link relation to the subscription document, and specify that it can only occur in archive documents, it obviates the

Re: General/Specific [was: Feed History / Protocol overlap]

2005-10-20 Thread Stefan Eissing
Am 19.10.2005 um 19:12 schrieb Mark Nottingham: * Reconstructing a feed should use: a) a specific relation, e.g., prev-archive +0 b) a generic relation, e.g., previous +1

Re: New Link Relations -- Last Call

2005-10-24 Thread Stefan Eissing
Am 23.10.2005 um 23:34 schrieb Mark Nottingham: On 23/10/2005, at 1:04 PM, Peter Robinson wrote: I prefer 'subscribe' because it better describes the meaning and intention behind the link, but I can live with 'current' if that is the consensus. Well, Tim seemed to have a pretty strong -1

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-nottingham-atompub-feed-history-06.txt

2006-06-30 Thread Stefan Eissing
Mark, my comments to the document: - much easier to understand with the split of the 3 use cases - very nice that archive documents are supposed to be frozen and fixed (dunno when that changed, but I think it was not so from the start) 2 minor nitpicks (hey, its me): - it seems that

Re: I-D ACTION:draft-nottingham-atompub-feed-history-07.txt

2006-09-20 Thread Stefan Eissing
Looks fine to me. Cheers, Stefan Am 18.09.2006 um 15:56 schrieb Mark Nottingham: Feed History is now Feed Paging and Archiving, to reflect what it's become. This draft is mostly a cleanup of -06, incorporating all of the feedback I've seen to date (thanks to all). If I missed

Re: Pseudo-Last Call on draft-nottingham-atompub-feed-history-07

2006-10-24 Thread Stefan Eissing
Am 24.10.2006 um 01:07 schrieb Mark Nottingham: OK. I'm adding this text just after the list of feed types in the introduction; ---8--- The semantics of a feed that combines these types is undefined by this specification. ---8--- WRT what future specs can or can't do, that's pretty