Re: Atom Tombstones Draft

2006-01-27 Thread Thomas Broyer
2006/1/27, James Holderness [EMAIL PROTECTED]: James M Snell wrote: One question: what's a reasonable length of time to keep the deleted-entry elements in a feed? We don't really want to keep those things around forever. Actually I think I probably would recommend keeping them forever.

Re: Atom Tombstones Draft

2006-01-27 Thread James M Snell
Thomas Broyer wrote: Anyway, that's my preference. Not necessarily a SHOULD recommendation - just my personal opinion. +1 Maybe at:by and at:comment could be used in pub:control in the APP as well Hmmh... hadn't thought of that. Edit comments are common and pub:control would be the

Re: Atom Tombstones Draft

2006-01-27 Thread James M Snell
Ok, so this makes sense and I've received other input that the id and when attributes should be elements instead. Given this, perhaps the deleted-entry should look something like this instead: at:deleted-entry atom:idtag:example.org,2006:someentry/atom:id--required--

Re: Atom Tombstones Draft

2006-01-27 Thread Thomas Broyer
2006/1/27, James M Snell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: at:deleted-entry atom:idtag:example.org,2006:someentry/atom:id--required-- atom:updated2005-01-27T12:12:12Z/atom:updated--required-- atom:authoratom:nameJames/atom:name/atom:author--optional-- atom:summarycomment

Re: Atom Tombstones Draft

2006-01-27 Thread James M Snell
Thomas Broyer wrote: But now that you're having something looking more and more like an atom:entry, how about just adding an at:deleted to an atom:entry? and integrating the at:by and at:comment inside the pub:control in a more generic way to provide edit comments? (issue: pub:control is

Re: Atom Tombstones Draft

2006-01-27 Thread James Holderness
James M Snell wrote: Which leaves us with... del:deleted-entry atom:id.../atom:id del:when.../del:when del:by.../del:by del:comment.../del:comment /del:deleted-entry I think I've probably mentioned this before, but FWIW I preferred the id and date as attributes since that's easier

Re: Atom Tombstones Draft

2006-01-27 Thread James M Snell
I tend to prefer attributes also, but the elements are structurally and stylistically more in tune with Atom. And given the by and comment elements (which I know you don't particularly have a need for), having id and when as elements doesn't add any significant level of additional parsing

Atom Tombstones Draft

2006-01-26 Thread James M Snell
Still in experimental stages. Cleaned up a bit and removed the archived-entry element. Comments requested... particularly from potential client implementors... http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-snell-atompub-tombstones-01.txt - James

Re: Atom Tombstones Draft

2006-01-26 Thread James Holderness
James M Snell wrote: Still in experimental stages. Cleaned up a bit and removed the archived-entry element. Comments requested... particularly from potential client implementors... http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-snell-atompub-tombstones-01.txt I'm glad you've brought this up -

Re: Atom Tombstones Draft

2006-01-26 Thread James M Snell
The by and comment elements are largely speculative right now. Now sure if they'll stay in there or not. And yes, it would likely be a good idea for Atom processors to ignore deleted-entry elements whose date is older than the entries updated date. Also, just because an entry was deleted

Re: Atom Tombstones Draft

2006-01-26 Thread James Holderness
James M Snell wrote: One question: what's a reasonable length of time to keep the deleted-entry elements in a feed? We don't really want to keep those things around forever. Actually I think I probably would recommend keeping them forever. Just treat them like any other entry. If they fall