Re: New Pace: PaceAggregationInSeparateSpec

2005-02-04 Thread Paul Hoffman
At 11:48 PM -0800 2/3/05, James Snell wrote: I agree with this so long as there is a core mechanism that allows a standalone entry to identify the feed to which it belongs. That mechanism does not have to be atom:head, but it does need to be part of the core. What if an entry is part of many feeds

Re: New Pace: PaceAggregationInSeparateSpec

2005-02-04 Thread James Snell
> I have heard interesting arguments "It's all about the Entries, stupid!" > that made the opposite assessment: namely that the entries are what is > important, and that what feed an Entry is part of, is a accident of > life. > > The idea there is that Entries are the stand alone entities. They c

Re: New Pace: PaceAggregationInSeparateSpec

2005-02-04 Thread Eric Scheid
On 4/2/05 6:48 PM, "James Snell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree with this so long as there is a core mechanism that allows a > standalone entry to identify the feed to which it belongs. That > mechanism does not have to be atom:head, but it does need to be part > of the core. hmmm ... i

Re: New Pace: PaceAggregationInSeparateSpec

2005-02-04 Thread Eric Scheid
On 4/2/05 6:14 PM, "Robert Sayre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> leaving things as they are >> and deferring deciding how to handle aggregation would irreversibly >> enshrine HeadInEntry into the format, which all of the current >> organizational proposals are trying to replace. > > That's right.

Re: New Pace: PaceAggregationInSeparateSpec

2005-02-04 Thread Henry Story
On 4 Feb 2005, at 09:05, James Snell wrote: Bottom line: In my opinion, the parent feed is just as core to the entries metadata as is the date it was updated or any of the other core elements. It *could* be defined as an extension, but I feel it is better handled in the core. I have heard interest

Re: New Pace: PaceAggregationInSeparateSpec

2005-02-04 Thread James Snell
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 02:51:28 -0500, Robert Sayre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > James Snell wrote: > >> > >>That's right. Besides, HeadInEntry is trivial to do as an extension, so > >>there's no reason to leave it in. > >> > > > > > > I agree with this so long as there is a core mechanism that allow

Re: New Pace: PaceAggregationInSeparateSpec

2005-02-04 Thread James Snell
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 23:39:51 -0700, Antone Roundy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday, February 3, 2005, at 11:07 PM, James Snell wrote: > > Figured I would formalize what I've been evangelizing the past couple > > of days. > > > > http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceAggregationInSepa

Re: New Pace: PaceAggregationInSeparateSpec

2005-02-04 Thread Robert Sayre
James Snell wrote: That's right. Besides, HeadInEntry is trivial to do as an extension, so there's no reason to leave it in. I agree with this so long as there is a core mechanism that allows a standalone entry to identify the feed to which it belongs. That mechanism does not have to be atom:head

Re: New Pace: PaceAggregationInSeparateSpec

2005-02-03 Thread James Snell
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 02:14:14 -0500, Robert Sayre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Antone Roundy wrote: > > > > leaving things as they are > > and deferring deciding how to handle aggregation would irreversibly > > enshrine HeadInEntry into the format, which all of the current > > organizational pro

Re: New Pace: PaceAggregationInSeparateSpec

2005-02-03 Thread Robert Sayre
Antone Roundy wrote: leaving things as they are and deferring deciding how to handle aggregation would irreversibly enshrine HeadInEntry into the format, which all of the current organizational proposals are trying to replace. That's right. Besides, HeadInEntry is trivial to do as an extension,

Re: New Pace: PaceAggregationInSeparateSpec

2005-02-03 Thread Eric Scheid
On 4/2/05 5:07 PM, "James Snell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Defer the definition of solutions for aggregated feeds to a separate > Internet-Draft that is not a part of the Atom core syntax > specification. +1

Re: New Pace: PaceAggregationInSeparateSpec

2005-02-03 Thread Antone Roundy
On Thursday, February 3, 2005, at 11:07 PM, James Snell wrote: Figured I would formalize what I've been evangelizing the past couple of days. http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceAggregationInSeparateSpec The only reason why I'm not in favor of this (in fact, it occurred to me a little befo

New Pace: PaceAggregationInSeparateSpec

2005-02-03 Thread James Snell
Figured I would formalize what I've been evangelizing the past couple of days. http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/PaceAggregationInSeparateSpec == Abstract == Defer the definition of solutions for aggregated feeds to a separate Internet-Draft that is not a part of the Atom core syntax speci