Re: Braille: A philosophy
I can handwrite 20 words or so per minute with the slate and stylus. the only difference is this.dot 1 is in the top right of the celldot 2, middle rightdot 3, lower rightdot 4, top leftdot 5, middle leftdot 6, bottom left.you start on the right hand side
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I don't know how to describe the slate and stylus without it sounding horrible. And, much like handwriting, the experience varies. I suppose the cheeky answer is "it's like being Vanna White, except with 6 panels per letter instead of one, and also you're p
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I've never tried a Slate and Stylus. What is it like? I've only tried the Perkins machine, the electronic Mount Battin Braille Writer and Braille note takers like the BrailleNote and BrailleSense.
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The thing about Grade 3 is that it's so rarely used, there isn't much of a standard. There has to be something of one—I've seen a standardized test for it—but for all intents and purposes, it's like any other shorthand. Personally, if I really need to save space
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regarding braille music, I needed it in high school. I was in the marching band and had to learn certain pieces of music and memorise them. I could not have done it without braille music. regarding the new ueb braille. the free send2braille translator does
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grade3? I guess when the lions club gets me the orbit20 when its out, I will get a grade3 braille reference guide and learn it. Then I can use the free turboBraille braille translator inside of talking dosbox to translate books in text files into grade3 braille
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well when the orbit20 comes out I will use a free program on windows called codex by james scholes. translate epub and other books into word then use the free send2braille to translate it into braille files and throw it onto the orbit20 sd card and off I go
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as I said before once the orbit reader20 is out worldwide, for the price of a good cell phone, you will have a nice affordable braille display that can read any braille code in any language you wish. http://tech.aph.org/or20
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the orbit20 I tested is about the size of an old video tape. It can fit in a large jacket pocket. If the memory card is formatted as fat32 it can take up to a 128gb sd card. yes 128gb full of any braille books you want. any kind of digital braille at all
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hi afrim,I am actually a bilingual, though I think my english is alot better than my turkish, as I had more exposure to it. The contraction problem I had was with english braille, not turkish braille, as turkish is an orthographic language.
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At Simba: UEB is Unified English Braille, where some shady organizations tried to update English Braille, reduce the need for multiple codes (computer, Literary, Math, etc), and bring the codes from all the different Anglophone countries together. It fails at all
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Does the Graphity support multi-line Braille? My intial thought was that it does not since it seems geared more for people that want to work with drawings and diagrams.
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At Simba: UEB is Unified English Braille, where some shady organizations tried to update English Braille, reduce the need for multiple codes (computer, Literary, Math, etc), and bring the codes from all the different Anglophone countries together. It fails at all
Re: Braille: A philosophy
For me, Braille is a little more useful than speech. Mainly because with speech, if you're in a classroom, or professional setting with loud people who just can't be quiet for one single nanosecond, you can't just keep turning up the volume on the headphones
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Graphity appears to be from the same organizations currently struggling to get the Orbit Reader into bulk production, so I can't get very excited about it.The 3d pens sound awesome and I now know what I'm doing with my spare time today.
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There is supposedly a braille tablet, but like the orbit, it looks like that's not going to happen.Someone on here posted a thread listing all the braille displays which never took off.I went to a school for the blind, and when we did spelling tests, yes
Re: Braille: A philosophy
@Enes, I get what you mean when you say that you learnt spelling when you started using your PC to type. One question though, since I've seen that your mother tongue language is Turkkish, for what language does the above statement apply, English or Turkish? I ask
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I recall that PACMates cost around $300-400 to build, and the 1000% markup is ... to pay programmers and tech support, I think? And that system doesn't scale well, anyway, since it's a tangled mess of levers and such that have trouble enough with the interior dots
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hi,If braille has any future at all, it is refreshable braille. Paper braille is dead almost. Noone will want to carry around dozens of pounds of books to and from class.Asault freak, it is the fault of braille, as even if I learned the actual versions
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My opinion on Braille is that we certainly should teach it as it is still used on things like elevators, and even some schools are now labeling their classrooms with room numbers now, However, do to the high cost of Braille displays as well as lack of innovation
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Honestly, what we need are full page Braille Displays that can be connected to computers. Physical hard copy Braille isn't very portable and can't change dynamically based on what you want to read. If the sighted get full refreshable screens, why are we still
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That wouldn't be the fault of braille itself then... that would be an issue with the teacher who taught it to you. I don't see how any competent teacher would not bother telling you what contractions meant.
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hi,I don't remember exactly. However, I know that I didn't know the real spelling of words until I started using the pc.
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Re: Braille: A philosophy
I can kinda see a sufficiently corner-cutting teacher leaving out the spellings of whole word contractions. Not so much things like tion or ance. Still, spelling tests with no contractions allowed really should be required, if this sort of thing is common.
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Enes, could you please settle some confussion for me? If your teacher taught you contractions but not what they mean... I guess my question is, what do you mean by that? Because why teach shall contraction if you're not going to learn what it means? I'm confused
Re: Braille: A philosophy
hi,The player, you are making a generalisation based on an extreme case. Just because your friend allegedly could read as fast as a sighted person does not necesarily mean that all, or even most of braille readers can.Dragomier, while you may read 240 words per
Re: Braille: A philosophy
I use both, the speech of a screenreader and Braille. When I play games, especially muds, I use speech. It is just easier, and you can react quicker. When it comes to reading books however, I would always read them in Braille. For me, it is easier that way
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yeah, I agree, UEB is pretty terrible.Another thing I don't like about braille is braille music. Its so different that its not even wurth learning in my opinion. however, I have a pretty good ear, so I imagine i'd feel different if I tried to learn music much
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Eh, while all your facts are accurate, I knda feel like laying off braille means you're missing an entire two out of the 3 rs, which just feels irresponsible, IMO.But yeah, I don't like UEB, either. And no, not because it's change. Because of several other
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hi,They are not opinions, they are facts. see this link.http://www.healthguidance.org/entry/132 … ading.htmlAccording to this article, an average college age adult reads approximately 300 words per minute, significantly more than the average braille reader
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I think a better debate would be how rubbishy UEB is. If blind people want to use UEB that's fine but don't force it on me! UEB isn't the Braille I learned and I'm not just going to drop the code I know to learn this new one that makes no sense.
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Enes... I have no idea where you're getting your figures, but I don't know of a print reader, ever, who can read 1000 words per minute. I can read 240 words per minute in braille. All of your facts that you just posted are a matter of personal opinion, as are most
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I know people who can read braille at around 300wpm, and I talked to a teacher who said he use to teach grade 3 to students who could read at least 200wpm. This is still a far cry from 500-1000, though.I kinda feel like, if someone doesn't know the letters
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hi,Yes, braille is dieing, like it or not. Anyone who claims otherwise is seriously out of touch with reality. Tell me this, why would I read a research paper in braille at around 50-60 words a minute, when I can easily read it a few thousand words a minute
Re: Braille: A philosophy
I find braille easy, but I would, wouldn't I?Speed-wise, though, almost no one reads braille fast enough to match screen readers.
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Re: Braille: A philosophy
I agree, Dragomier. I myself am moving on to screen reader because it's so much easier and simpler. and the Uni I am currently in doesn't have facility and accessibility for the blind, so I am completely learn on my own, trying to keep up with my classmates around
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I think what it comes down to is the fact that people want to take the easy way out. The people I've spoken to who are staunch supporters of screen reading have all said, "It's easier." That makes me sad as well, for the simple fact that people are
Re: Braille: A philosophy
Hi.Braille is dying. I can just agree on that, but not in the whole sence. The only way where braille is dying is on traditional paper, the focus is shifting twards braille displays and devices coming in the future. And honestly, I can just greet this.I remember
Re: Braille: A philosophy
hello guysI leave in Indonesia, where many people still don't know what we, as the visually impaired, can do by ourselves. the public facilities for us here aren't all accessible not like their in US or other country, or so I thought.I started elementary school
Re: Braille: A philosophy
Hello everyone. I did a little research on this a while back. Let me give you some recent shocking statistics to show you the magnitude of the Braille Literacy crisis. Out of all blind people in the world, approximately 75% of them are unemployed. Also 10R
Re: Braille: A philosophy
Afrim, it's interesting you bring that up because I actually had a debate with someone about that very same topic not long ago. While yes, Braille displays do a lot less than mainstream computers, consider this: Computer manufacturers are selling to a higher
Re: Braille: A philosophy
I think I read braille once since high school, and I really don't see myself going back to it at all. also I would rather listen to an audiobook than have to have a book with 6 or 7 different volumes. especially on a vacation or something. I have no idea why
Re: Braille: A philosophy
hmm. I agree for the must part.The reason I aren't reading braille myself is because I started learning it at the age of 16 (and I'm 18 now).I just can't learn it quick enough that it would be practical for me to use when I'm at school or programming at home
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i gotta be honest, I don't read braille nearly as much as I should. I know it, pretty well, but don't read it much, because yeah... I prefer to read audiobooks. Not only because i can just listen, but braille books are quite huge. One harry potter book
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