Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect The way soul calibur 3 demonstrated surround sound was to have menu chirps play twice successively in such a way that the sound would make it's way around the player, and that was way back on the ps2, but something like that could still work today

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @18 Nah, unfortunately not. Johnathan Coachman reads the front main menu. Franchise, exhibition, accessibility, that's it. No options, no submenus, etc. Mortal Kombat 11 at least had the decency to read the submenus to get to story, local fight

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @17 ah I thought Madden's was synthesised URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/423374/#p423374 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @14 Madden 19 does it too. MK11 has a better implementation though. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/423350/#p423350 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I've tried to email Sony San Diego in regard to MLB The Show 19 accessibility features. They have yet to respond, but nobody knows if they implemented any CVAA features. The only way to find out is to purchase it. URL: https

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @9 @10 all the developers I know who are going above and beyond compliance requirements are doing so because they want to rather than because they feel forced to. That was the consensus from the lawyers at the GDC legal round table too

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @13 it's only MK11, not alot of companies. I haven't heard of any others at least.I don't know if this was the case with MK11 but there's a common misconception that voiced is superior to synthesised, as for people who can see that's true. People

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I wonder why MK11 and really a lot of companies are goingfor the voiced menu option?It will lead to problems when attempting to make non-static menus accessible. As I stated in a previous topic, I think this was done because both consoles don't

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I believe that chat functionality and most of the system user interface has text to speech. What's actually missing it are some of the menus within menus. They done a pretty decent job at laying a foundation, they just actually need to sit down

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I think the big visibility MS has put on the accessible controller and the integration of Narrator in the Xbox helped, because I guess it is fairly easy to integrate it. Before narrator was on Xbox, a game that would want voiced menus would have

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect The pessimist in me says they're seeing the big picture and moving in that direction before some other law which doesn't exist yet makes them. But I do kind of hope they want to do it as well, and I think some people definitely do, like the guy

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I've got a question.If CVAA requires video games to have text and voice communications accessible, why games like the division and crackdown 3 and  now partially mortal kombat 11 have accessibility for their game menus?Main menus and ui elements

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I've got a question.If CVAA requires video games to have text and voice communications accessible, why games like the division and crackdown 3 and  now partially mortal kombat 11 have accessibility for their game menus?Main menus and ui elements

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Just curious, but do audio games meat all of these requirements and if not, how could we do it? I'll re-post the requirements you wrote in the blog post, with my questions and possible solutions:I know that AGs satisfy requirements (1)(i), (1)(iii

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Explainer post, it's a long read but hopefully should clear up misconceptions:http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/IanHamil … g_CVAA.php URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/407028/#p407028 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect KenshiraTheTrinity wrote:O thought this only covered chatting, but I'd be happy with an accessible menu interface.It does only cover chat functonality, but for the chat to be accessible you have to be able to navigate to and operate it. URL

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect O thought this only covered chatting, but I'd be happy with an accessible menu interface. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/405325/#p405325 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect But, people could do that in the other topic. Well, never mind. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/405299/#p405299 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect For information purposes, mostly. As well as a point to discuss the topic further, should anyone care to do so. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/405285/#p405285 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect As reported by [gamasutra]:The [Video Accessibility Act] of 2010 signed by Barack Obama requires that communication functionality like in-game chat and the UI used to navigate to those elements must be accessible for people with visual, motor, speech

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Hi.What's the point of creating an other topic about this? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/405261/#p405261 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Hi.What's the point of creating an other topic about this? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/405261/#p405261 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect As reported by [gamasutra]:The [Video Accessibility Act] of 2010 signed by Barack Obama requires that communication functionality like in-game chat and the UI used to navigate to those elements must be accessible for people with visual, motor, speech

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @defenderThis is true, its usually why companies have PR types and community managers for their own forum's. The community here has a culture all their own, and their own quirks and problems to deal with, its no exception. I'm not terribly

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @110, I could. I'm just not sure which ones I should remake as 'deleted'. I'm guessing posts 50 onward, at least for the ones I posted. But yeah, this forum has all the problems that any mainstream forum has, magnified since we're so tiny. URL

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Well I'll be making a new post soon anyway as I've been working on a lengthy CVAA explainer article, it is aimed at developers but wouldn't hurt to post here too.If anyone's interested in taking an early look at letting me know any feedback

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @IanAh I wasn't aware it was still so small... I guess their using the word teams as a tactic to make it look bigger than it is. Either that or one/two people equals a team in that environment?@EthinHmm yeah your right, I forgot how dumb the forum

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @IanAh I wasn't aware it was still so small... I guess their using the word teams as a tactic to make it look bigger than it is. Either that or one/two people equals a team in that environment?@EthinHmm yeah your right, I forgot how dumb the forum

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I probably won't post this in the new topic, but will do so now. Feel free to be skeptical. I really do apologize for my toxicity. I went way too far; I was skeptical at first and spiraled into ultra-negativity thereafter, and I really can't

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I'd be happy for this thread to be deleted and a new one for ongoing CVAA discussion started, with a few provisos made in the inital post about what kind of discussion it is for. I imagine it will be an ongoing topic, the chances that no games

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect devinprater wrote:Think of the media attention of bling people being able to navigate their way confidently around a game mainly made for sighted players.Yeah the PR prize of first AAA game to be fully blind accessible is still sat there waiting

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @105, not everyone died. Some characters died like Meleena, others are remnants under Shinok's control. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/405082/#p405082 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect If their needs to be a new topic made then go for it. Some of the stuff I read in this one I don’t like. Most of the other posts are interesting. Now I wonder where MK11 takes place. Didn’t everyone die in MK10? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Well, I am pretty simical, but see this. If a company, or multiple companies, make even a bit of accessibility for blind players, that opens the doo for more. Like:Mortal Kombat 11 could have talking mnu structure leading to the chat system

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Well, some people never change. I wander why some people keep posting negative and sceptical comments. Just like, nothing is good enough. Life is too short to keep argumenting with those people. If they choose to be negative and sceptical, then we

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect defender wrote:more accessibility teams are being formed and existing ones given more funding at various studiosI wouldn't quite to as far as accessibility teams being formed. But a few years ago the number of people working in accessibility

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Ok 3 things. 1, I am all for the progress that cvaa has created and am looking forward to more, however long it takes, especially in light of the sources sited above.2, I want to be able to refer to that and other usefull information pertaining

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I just want you guys to know this, except most of indie games, which these days now also are signing contracts with independent publishers, developers are not free to choose what should be in a video game and what shouldn't. This topic

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I just want you guys to know this, except most of indie games, which these days now also are signing contracts with independent publishers, developers are not free to choose what should be in a video game and what shouldn't. This topic

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Hm... I'm not sure erasing this topic is the right choice, the Streisand Effect and all, but if we're all in agreement on deleting it as a whole, I will. There's been quite abit of ground covered, and there's bound to be more information posted

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @97, deleting my posts on this topic would create a vacuum of sorts though. We'd have people commenting towards me when the post wasn't there. So they'd have to delete theirs too, which would probably mash the thread. Plus, no one's liked it when

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @EthinIf you want to actually do something positive instead of just admitting your a problem again, I'd strongly suggest that you delete your harshest previous comments on this thread, and the RAD one.No one else can do it if it hasn't broken

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect okay, I'm going to weigh in here and I have nothing but positive things to say about this cvaa. First of all, I don't think I've ever heard of it, but if they've passed a law that requires game developers to make their chat functionality

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @94, Wow... I didn't even know that was still available. Things like that are very easy to forget. Which is surprising (since I wrote it, with some assistance). Damn. Guess its time for me to try to take my own advice (though that article

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Ethin, here's a quick summary of some comments just on this thread alone from other members of this community:Ethin, if you have nothing positive to say about this, please stop. The remarks you have made here and on other threads aren't helpful

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Ethin, here's a quick summary of some comments just on this thread alone from other members of this community:Ethin, if you have nothing positive to say about this, please stop. The remarks you have made here and on other threads aren't helpful

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Ethin, here's a quick summary of some comments just on this thread alone from other members of this community:Ethin, if you have nothing positive to say about this, please stop. The remarks you have made here and on other threads aren't helpful

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Ethin, here's a quick summary of some comments just on this thread alone from other members of this community:Ethin, if you have nothing positive to say about this, please stop. The remarks you have made here and on other threads aren't helpful

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Ethin, here's a quick summary of some comments just on this thread alone from other members of this community:Ethin, if you have nothing positive to say about this, please stop. The remarks you have made here and on other threads aren't helpful

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Ethin: Ethin, if you have nothing positive to say about this, please stop. The remarks you have made here and on other threads aren't helpful and may even discourage people from making games accessible for everyone.Ethin. I have four words for you

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I get it at the top of page 2 for "CVAA blind gamers", and the blind angle is the one that people are going to be searching for guidance on the most, followed by TTS+SST for deaf+voice.Unfortunately it isn't a fire and forget kin

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @ianhamilton_I've been considering that. Searching for CVAA turns up nothing, but searching for this threads title pops it up as the second result, cached. If there's been any harm, its already done. Best take a deep breath, and move

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @90, oh, I haven't thrown that out. I was just replying to post 88. Obviously I can't just suddenly 'turn over a new leaf', as it were. But I'm watching and waiting. Unfortunately I only have this forum as a 'news outlet'. I don't venture onto

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect The idea of leaving it until March didn't last long then.@Magurp244 given the level of misinformation and venom towards developers present in this thread, combined with the number of people currently googling CVAA, it may just be worth deleting

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @90, oh, I haven't thrown that out. I was just replying to post 88. Obviously I can't just suddenly 'turn over a new leaf', as it were. But I'm watching and waiting. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/404865/#p404865 -- Audiogames

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect The idea of leaving it until March didn't last long then. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/404864/#p404864 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @88, I'm sure that, if you thought about it a bit, you'd understand why I hold such a negative attitude. And, as I said before, I'm not the only one. We have companies like Steam (who don't even have an accessibility category in their tech support

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect ethin:I am going to say this, and I am only going to say this once.I am frankly surprised that you are still allowed to be on this forum. The vast majority of your posts are extremely negative and insulting. Constructive critisism is one thing

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect True. You say that the forum rules say that "you have to be nice". Problem is, last time I checked those were being revised, and its fine to have scuffles, debates, arguments and such. Being hostile like I was is not a violation.

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Honestly, you need to stop being hostile, it's against the rules of the forum, you have to be nice. And hostile things you post about developers impact people outside the forum who are reading it, not just the people you're talking to. Like I said

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Honestly, you need to stop being hostile, it's against the rules of the forum, you have to be nice. Hostile things you post about developers impact people outside the forum who are reading it, not just the people you're talking to. Like I said

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Honestly, you need to stop being hostile, it's against the rules of the forum, and impacts people outside the forum who are reading it too, not just the people you're talking to. Like I said there are lots of developers googling CVAA at the moment

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Honestly, you need to stop being hostile, it's against the rules of the forum.Laws need penalties for breaking them, if not they are unenforceable.But as I said it does not work on the basis of FCC roaming around looking for people to slap fines

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect CVAA is not a new concept, it has been around since 2010. Rather than falling apart, CVAA is the reason why corporations now provide text to speech on TV set top boxes, e.g. https://www.verizon.com/about/accessibi … xt-speech. It is the reason why

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Hopefully. I know I was hostile, but I hope you understood where I was coming from. To me, the CVAA seems like a bullying tactic (at least from what I read of the law). Your descriptions, as well as the text, only reenforced that notion: make your

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect CVAA is not a new concept, it has been around since 2010. Rather than falling apart, CVAA is the reason why corporations now provide text to speech on TV set top boxes, e.g. https://www.verizon.com/about/accessibi … xt-speech. It is the reason why

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect CVAA is not a new concept, it has been around since 2010. Rather than falling apart, CVAA is the reason why corporations now provide text to speech on TV set top boxes, e.g. https://www.verizon.com/about/accessibi … xt-speech. It is the reason why

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect CVAA is not a new concept, it has been around since 2010. Rather than falling apart, CVAA is the reason why corporations now provide text to speech on TV set top boxes, e.g. https://www.verizon.com/about/accessibi … xt-speech. It is why

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect You and I just don't agree on many things. I expressed the sentiment that "developers will violate it" because greedy corporations just work that way. Does the CVAA even have provisions in it to deal with corporations that continuous

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I don't know how many times I can keep saying it, skepticism is healthy and reasonable, unfounded uninformed attacks on the motivations of developers are not. Skepticism means "I'll believe it when I see it", not "it'll never happen

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I don't know how many times I can keep saying it, skepticism is healthy and reasonable, unfounded uninformed attacks on the motivations of developers are not. Skepticism means "I'll believe it when I see it", not "it'll never happen

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I don't know how many times I can keep saying it, skepticism is healthy and reasonable, unfounded uninformed attacks on the motivations of developers are not. Skepticism means "I'll believe it when I see it", not "it'll never happen

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I don't know how many times I can keep saying it, skepticism is healthy and reasonable, unfounded uninformed attacks on the motivations of developers are not. Skepticism means "I'll believe it when I see it", not "it'll never happen

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I don't know how many times I can keep saying it, skepticism is healthy and reasonable, unfounded uninformed attacks on the motivations of developers are not. Skepticism means "I'll believe it when I see it", not "it'll never happen

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I don't know how many times I can keep saying it, skepticism is healthy and reasonable, unfounded uninformed attacks on the motivations of developers are not. Skepticism means "I'll believe it when I see it", not "it'll never happen

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I don't know how many times I can keep saying it, skepticism is healthy and reasonable, unfounded uninformed attacks on the motivations of developers are not. Skepticism means "I'll believe it when I see it", not "it'll never happen

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I don't know how many times I can keep saying it, skepticism is healthy and reasonable, unfounded uninformed attacks on the motivations of developers are not. Skepticism means "I'll believe it when I see it", not "it'll never happen

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I don't know how many times I can keep saying it, skepticism is healthy and reasonable, unfounded attacks on the motivations of developers are not. Man we need some moderation in this thread. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/404684/#p404684

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Man we need some moderation in this thread. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/404684/#p404684 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @ianhamilton_, you cannot lay it solely on Jace and I that you aren't telling developers about this forum. That is your own choosing if you refuse to tell developers about this forum, and developers will most likely blame you, rather me or Jace

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @ianhamilton_, you cannot lay it solely on Jace and I that you aren't telling developers about this forum. That is your own choosing if you refuse to tell developers about this forum, and developers will most likely blame you, rather me or Jac.e

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Its sad to need to legislate at all.But some companies don't want to talk to users.Having been a pirate in my yunger days I can appreciate both sides.Talking solves problems, this law solves nothing.People may comply  but it would be better

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Thanks, I'll keep this im mind. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/404664/#p404664 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect KenshiraTheTrinity wrote:So I have a serious question and am looking for an honest and genuine answer.Suppose today that I am using a product of one of the companies above that doesn't meet the standards of this measure. What is the right way

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect KenshiraTheTrinity wrote:So I have a serious question and am looking for an honest and genuine answer.Suppose today that I am using a product of one of the companies above that doesn't meet the standards of this measure. What is the right way

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect KenshiraTheTrinity wrote:So I have a serious question and am looking for an honest and genuine answer.Suppose today that I am using a product of one of the companies above that doesn't meet the standards of this measure. What is the right way

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect JaceK: Ah, shame you aren't local. Which country are you in? But no, I'm not going to personally pay all of your expenses to go the USA. JaceK wrote:neither you, nor I are there day to day. We do not know what goes on, and what does not go

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Ethin: For a long time I continually told developers in conference talks that they should come to these forums to learn about accessibility. I no longer do so, because of you and to a lesser extent JaceK. That is harmful, and it is on your heads

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect JaceK: Ah, shame you aren't local. Which country are you in? But no, I'm not going to personally pay all of your expenses to go the USA. JaceK wrote:neither you, nor I are there day to day. We do not know what goes on, and what does not go

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Ethin: For a long time I continually told developers in conference talks that they should come to these forums to learn about accessibility. I no longer do so, because of you and to a lesser extent JaceK. That is harmful, and it is on your heads

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect So I have a serious question and am looking for an honest and genuine answer.Suppose today that I am using a product of one of the companies above that doesn't meet the standards of this measure. What is the right way to bring this to the company

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Ethin: For a long time I continually told developers in conference talks that they should come to these forums to learn about accessibility. I no longer do so, because of you and to a lesser extent JaceK. That is harmful, and it is on your heads

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect I agree with 73 on that one. Also, ianhamilton_, you say I'm calling you a lier. I don't consider anything I've posted on here as calling you a lier, merely explaining (or trying to explain) why I feel the way I do, and simultaneously describe why

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Oh I'm sorry you take my concerns and criticism as 'hating' Ian, I'm sory you're brushing off my concerns with 'stop hating'. I'm not hating. I'm raising valid points and valid concerns about what the CVAA will or won't do, and what he big firms

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Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @JaceK are we done now then? Could you please lay off the accessibility-hating until the end of March? I think that's a reasonable timescale and a healthy level of skepticism; neither praising or damning, simply waiting to see what the first wave

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect @Ian: No it's not a magic bullet, at all. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/404601/#p404601 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect JaceK wrote:It was extremly strict about what I could say. I couldn't even say yes, I'm involved with game X for company Y or Z, or even confirm or deny the company was working on a game.Precisely. Thank you.JaceK wrote:I doubt it'll

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Thank you for the reasonable questions JaceK, I appreciate itJaceK wrote:I'm still skepitcal for a lot of reasons.Skepticism is entirely reasonableJaceK wrote:The FCC's involved. We all know how slowly they work. ...  Even the fastest moving

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect Thank you for the reasonable questions JaceK, I appreciate itJaceK wrote:I'm still skepitcal for a lot of reasons.Skepticism is entirely reasonableJaceK wrote:The FCC's involved. We all know how slowly they work. ...  Even the fastest moving

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect

Re: CVAA Accessibility Rules Now In Effect JaceK wrote:It was extremly strict about what I could say. I couldn't even say yes, I'm involved with game X for company Y or Z, or even confirm or deny the company was working on a game.Precisely. Thank you.JaceK wrote:I doubt it'll

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