Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Aprone voiced his openion about Jaid and they were very constructive and he presented it in a calm and unagrivated mannor. I think this is a great idea. In all political areanas the parlementary proceedings are publisised so

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. wait why are we bashing Aprone? he was just voicing his opinion. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/448360/#p448360 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. I feel like the response to aprone was very disproportionate. As far as I could see he was voicing his opinion, and jayde was responding to his criticism, but I don't actually see where this led to drama. And defender's post

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Aprone.I'm very sorry you feel the way you do. I do understand how this whole thing is both very difficult for you and very frustrating. let me say that I appreciate the work you have done for this community as both a moderator

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Love ya man, and wish you luck. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/447847/#p447847 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. You know what, you're right.  Regardless of how well intentioned my posts have been since returning to the forum, they're stirring up more drama and aren't really causing positive changes.I do not mesh well with the current

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Why the fuck are we doing this again Aprone!   Come on man...Again with the personal sniping and the therapist style analyzing?Every time I see this devolve into argument with you two I'm more glad your not a mod now, and more

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. @Aprone I'd honestly just drop it. I agree with everything you say, and notice how he evades the worst things, but it's really not going to change him, and things are how they are. We have a couple new admins and Liam back

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Why the fuck are we doing this again Aprone!   Come on man...Again with the personal sniping and the therapist style analyzing?Every time I see this devolve into argument with you two I'm more glad your not a mod now, and more

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Why the fuck are we doing this again Aprone!Again with the personal sniping and the therapist style analyzing?Every time I see this devolve into argument with you two I'm more glad your not a mod now, and more disappointed in you

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Why the fuck are we doing this again Aprone!Again with the personal sniping and the therapist style analyzing?Every time I see this devolve into argument with you two I'm more glad your not a mod now, and more disappointed in you

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Why the fuck are we doing this again Aprone!Again with the personal sniping and the therapist style analyzing?Every time I see this devolve into argument with you two I'm more glad your not a mod now, and more disappointed in you

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Honestly, I wouldn't worry if I were you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/447617/#p447617 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. I'm kinda worried. It must be pretty bad then. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/447616/#p447616 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Well I'm honored that you think so highly of my opinion of you Liam, but I guess you'll just have to be disappointed.  URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/447615/#p447615 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. No seriously I want to know. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/447613/#p447613 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. You're free to hold whichever opinion suits you on that last bit, of course.As for the rest, I'll just reiterate what I've said. I pointed out almost right away that I was not alone in this. Just saying that, on its own, allowed

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Liam wrote:Oo Oo. Summarize me next. 3  Well I guess that's all there is for me to say here.  Do as you will.  I can see I'm just butting in while others already have things well in hand. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Well there's no "may" about it. I have definitely contributed to some of the troubles here. As to the guilt I bear? That depends on the individual viewing it, I suppose. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/44760

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. I said this sarcastically in another thread, but might we not blame all the issues causd lately squarely on Jade? Because that's ridiculous; the issues that the forum hassuffered have been caused by various indivdiuals. Jade may

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Oo Oo. Summarize me next. 3 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/447600/#p447600 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Jayde, dismissing everything as a bad faith argument is pretty much standard at this point.  You never fail to come across as the most arrogant person in the room.  Oh my bad, as the person with highest self confidence.  I don't

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. You're free to hold whichever opinion suits you on that last bit, of course.As for the rest, I'll just reiterate what I've said. I pointed out almost right away that I was not alone in this. Just saying that, on its own, allowed

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. You're free to hold whichever opinion suits you on that last bit, of course.As for the rest, I'll just reiterate what I've said. I pointed out almost right away that I was not alone in this. Just saying that, on its own, allowed

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. You're free to hold whichever opinion suits you on that last bit, of course.As for the rest, I'll just reiterate what I've said. I pointed out almost right away that I was not alone in this. Just saying that, on its own, allowed

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. @Aprone I have a genuine question, what are your thoughts about, well, me? Have I been doing right? Been doing wrong? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/447590/#p447590 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Well to you it was a choice to protect, but no one else was going to be able to make that distinction.  You do realize that to the rest of the world, it was you choosing to hide something... not choosing to protect someone.  You

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Well to you it was a choice to protect, but no one else was going to be able to make that distinction.  You do realize that to the rest of the world, it was you choosing to hide something... not choosing to protect someone.  You

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. When I've been encouraging you to act, Aaron, it's not so much been my intent to get you not to consider others. It's more that instead of waffling back and forth, pick something and try it, especially if you're just going

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. I am also going to add that Jayde is right that I don't like offending people. I did not want to out Liam for the longest time because I didn't know if it would be fair on him.One of the things that a lot of people are noticing

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Rashid, chock that one up to being under a lot of fire lately, some of it undeserved, some of it from Ironcross himself.Aprone, your situation has a simple explanation:The driving force behind the copyright discussion was Liam

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. I used the phrase "choosing to hide" because I seem to remember multiple posts regarding the copyright decisions, where names were not given when it seemed like listing them was the obvious thing to do.  I don't have e

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Rashid, chock that one up to being under a lot of fire lately, some of it undeserved, some of it from Ironcross himself. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/447568/#p447568 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. I used the phrase "choosing to hide" because I seem to remember multiple posts regarding the copyright decisions, where names were not given when it seemed like listing them was the obvious thing to do.  I don't have e

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. @Jayde, this topic has nothing to do with this, but I feel obligated to say this as constructive feedback.Absolutely no one has called you out by name in this thread, with the closest anyone has gotten being my second post where

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Bear in mind that Liam was actually supportive of me issuing that caution to MasterOfDeath. He had just come back and was simply unsure; he wanted to be tentle because the situation was volatile, but agreed the dude needed some

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Transparency, to our way of seeing this, largely meant discussing things rather than just trotting out new things. When new rules were drafted, the forum was invited to chime in. When further new members of the team were sought

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Honestly, if you can't stand by your decision publicly, that's a mark against you that you're fully qualified to be making them. I agree that this type of public stats based on voting certainly wouldn't hurt, but what would

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Transparency, to our way of seeing this, largely meant discussing things rather than just trotting out new things. When new rules were drafted, the forum was invited to chime in. When further new members of the team were sought

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. With the number of times that the phrase "more transparency" was promised, I had actually assumed this exact idea would be the main focus.The push for more transparency gave us better defined rules, but I never

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. I appreciate the spirit with which you meant this. At worst I'm just not seeing a benefit, because I feel like at this point, most of the people who are going to say shit like that are going to ignore pretty much everything

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. multiple reasons I made this suggestion.1, in the case of recent issues like the copyright discussion, it makes it very clear to the users that it wasn't just one person in agreement with the change. Saying we had a unanimous

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. To be fair to the moderators, on most forums, you would not get this level of transparency. Things would *just* happen, and that would be the end of it. Staff role out changes with little to no notice, and you can either go along

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. Hi,The only reason I have not been providing names when saying the number of votes, is out of respect for the privacy of those people casting the votes. There have been times where I've wondered about saying which members voted

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. A few thoughts:First, I'm not actually all that opposed to this. I don't think it's strictly essential, but I don't object to it on the surface of things.I will point out that with basically every large decision so far, at least

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public.

Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. let me say that when ever a decision has been made so long as it isn't something that is super disruptive to the forum, us as staff had had time to sit down and talk it over. If there is not complete agreement by everyone then we

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. This... is a very slippery slope. I advise caution when attempting to role this out; it would be incredibly easy for this to seem like a viable solution, only for it to blow up in your face in a few months when the mods agree

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Re: All votes on moderation decisions should be made public. agreed URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/447399/#p447399 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector