Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader?

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? Thanks Sky, that's the one!I didn't remember because I kept thinking it couldn't have been BB since it was all NVDA people so I figured it had to have been an NV-access hosted podcast. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/599143/#p599143

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? @OP, because it's not the case that every person has to jump on every new piece of tech as soon as it comes out.I saw this same question posed when NVDA first made it's entrance so many years ago. Why are people still using JAWS?The answer is that we

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader?

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? @OP, because it's not the case that every person has to jump on every new piece of tech as soon as it comes out.I saw this same question posed when NVDA first made it's entrance so many years ago. Why are people still using JAWS?The answer is that we

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader?

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? @electro, eloquence ends in a comma for you? It shouldn't be doing that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/599113/#p599113 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? Also, the only thing that has linguisticaly brecked me, is that when I use the Eloquence synth with narrator, when it finishes speaking, it always ends in a comma, instead of a period, just like NVDA and JAWS. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader?

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? Well, Narrator is certainly a decent alternative nowadays, but definitely not there to be used as a primary screen reader just yet. Everything people mentioned above, and I will also add something really dumb that should be fixed as soon as possible

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? Hello. As far as Narrator is concerned, it does allow you to use SAPI 5 synthesizers like the Eloquence from Code factory. As well, I had the opportunity to use Narrator as my main screen reader for a week and I was able to do Internet, email

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader?

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? There is no doubt about this.Although I am not used to it, its function is indeed very powerful. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598923/#p598923 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? There is no doubt about this.Although I am not used to it, the function is really powerful. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598923/#p598923 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? Also Defender, you have peaked my interest about the NVAccess and Narrator thing.  Me being me, I'm going to poke around until I find it.  Well, after finals, that is.  URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598861/#p598861 -- Audiogames

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? @41 I see what you're saying, but I don't think the fact that they have a lot of other things to do should excuse it, at least in full.  They chose to add accessibility, to all their products, including the XBox.  Is it that unreasonable to ask

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? @turret:Yeah, Win 2K I believe had the first version of Narrator. I still don't think it's a fair comparison. Sure MS has the resources, but they have much bigger and better things to worry about than Narrator, so it seems. That's what you can do

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader?

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? @CamlornThe NV-Access team talked about it in a podcast I heard in I think 2018.  I wish I could remember which one it was... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598815/#p598815 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? Would be interested in a source as to NVAccess contracting with Microsoft for Narrator things.  That's news to me.There won't be a Python 4 ever, unless cows fly.  Major versions only get bumped for backward-incompatible changes, and Python 3 taught

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader?

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? @37, spot on got ya URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598782/#p598782 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? JayJay wrote:Just  out of curiosity, We're up too python 3.9 already, so when do you guys think we'll be switching to NVDA Python 4?Nvda is on python 3.7, and no, the next version of python is 3.10. It‘s in alpha stage URL: https

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader?

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? JayJay wrote:Just  out of curiosity, We're up too python 3.9 already, so when do you guys think we'll be switching to NVDA Python 4?Nvda is on python 3.7, and no, the next version of python is 3.10, its in alpha stage URL: https

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? @totoPlease don't start off topic discussions like that.I would suggest that everyone who has time should learn how to use Narrator to at least a mid level.  It's better for some things and it seems to navigate in a more visual way sorta like

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader?

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? Just  out of curiosity, We're up too python 3.9 already, so when do you guys think we'll be switching to NVDA Python 4? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598759/#p598759 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? Comparing NVDA to Narrator is like comparing day and night.Although Narrator has improved a lot, I still can't imagine using it for anything other than testing what's wrong when either JAWS or NVDA won't start.To me it still remains an entry-level

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader?

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? yes it is URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598710/#p598710 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader?

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? @toto, You look up documentation for it. Seriously, I'm not going to go into detail about something you can literally Google and get the desired results for. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598705/#p598705 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? @28how I can use instan translate? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598701/#p598701 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? I don't have the PR link handy, but they're replacing the diff algorithm with something that won't freeze if the terminal gets spammed by being 10 or more times faster and such.  In the process, they're making it so that editing in the middle

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader?

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? Ooh, I wonder what they're going to do for terminal support? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598693/#p598693 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? @queenslight, Instant Translate still works great over here, if not a tad slow. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598690/#p598690 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? For now, not in an add on at least. I don't know any others (besides that NVDA-Translate one which I think also has boke thanks to Google too.)Hopefully more can chime in, and correct me if I may have misspoken on something. URL: https

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? @22and what i can to do? maybe there is some other translater?thanks URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598672/#p598672 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? @23Did I just hear... Possibly... Emacs support? Without the need of... Emacspeak? Hmmm... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598669/#p598669 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? As the team behind Narrator, I know that folks who use to work for GW Micro/Ai Squared moved on over to Microsoft. Giving that Window-Eyes was the last screen reader to add Mouse Overs? Well... Though I absolutely love  Narrator's way with Touch

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader?

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? NVDA will be knocking terminal support out of the park in 2021.1 it looks like, to the point where Emacs may be feasible.  This alone will make it indispensable to programmers. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598664/#p598664

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? To the NVDA Instant Translate Add On, it may Officially be broken now, thanks to Google themselves of course. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598662/#p598662 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? @bradfirst thanks for the reply yes I press insert control shift t tells me translater enabled but when I click control insert shift y nvda does not say anything URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598658/#p598658 -- Audiogames-reflector

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? @18, Narrator actually has been in development for longer than NVDA, and NVDA's run mainly by contributors.  Microsoft is... Microsoft.  They have a lot of resources.  MS really has no leg to stand on in that case.  "Oh yeah we know that thi

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? My main thing with narrator is it does not read multi-column listviews.  I can live without indentation, scripting, fast speech, etc.  Sure I wouldn't want to, but I *could*. I use a lot of apps that use multi-column listviews.  Xplorer2, Msinfo32

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? I'm not really sure that's a fair comparison to be honest. One has had a decade and a half of extremely active development, as well as a community behind it. The other has whatever MS decides to throw at it, again maybe once every 1/2 years. I'm sure

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader?

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? Did you press control shift insert t to turn translation on? then control shift insert y for enable auto translate last spoken? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598637/#p598637 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? OK you guys, here is a chalenge for you all, I am going to do it as well btwso, for who wants to try it, use narator for an entire day without using nvda even once, then we can talk about performance and limitations.If you can get eSpeak for sapi

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? hiI have question about nvda translate I want play Chinese game but nvda translate don't work what I can use? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598633/#p598633 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? You can use Audacity with Narrator at least.Can't tell ya if GoldWave would work, as I don't use said program. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598631/#p598631 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? Well, it's a huge step forward for us, that we have narrator for basic stuff, including setting up windows from scratch, but for more serious stuff I'm not exactly sure if that's enough.I haven't exactly tried to record a track, edit it and upload

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader?

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? I agree with all the comments on this post. IMO NVDA  isn’t only the best free screenreader, it is the best Windows screenreader out there. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598571/#p598571 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? I agree with all the comments on this post. IMO NVDA  isn’t only the best free screenreader, it is the best screenreader out there. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598571/#p598571 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? Post 1. The best way to figure out if NVDA is the best is to use narrator. I find it limiting. It's not bad, but it's, limiting. I could get by with JAWS, but voiceover and narrator on mac and windows respectively are too limiting. My customisation

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader?

Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? As for Narrator being the best free screen reader...It all depends on what  apps ya use. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598567/#p598567 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? For those who would like to read the Narrator Getting Started Guide, take a trip on ovver to http://aka.ms/narratorguide/As for the OneCore voices thing? They  are based off of SAPI 5.4. Narrator does have support for older SAPI 5 voices, though

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? I don’t think so @7 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598544/#p598544 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? 1Core is SAPI with different registry values. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598539/#p598539 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? Yeah, I guess technically it's One Core, but to be honest the relationships between them are super weird anyway. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598537/#p598537 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? @4 narrator uses one core, or as microsoft calls them microsoft mobile voices, those are much faster than sapi, but still not as fast as nvda synth driver addons. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598533/#p598533 -- Audiogames-reflector

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? Lots and lots of stuff:Third party synthesizers which can go 2 or 3 times faster than Sapi.The ability to configure formatting options one-by-one rather than just saying "tell me all of them".Configuration profiles.Scripting.For p

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? A loot, addons, ocr, object nav, and some stuff that is in addons like remote, speech history etc. also nvda gets updated no matter what windows version you have. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/598520/#p598520 -- Audiogames

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Re: Is NVDA the best free screenreader? For me, narrator is great now, but the reason it won't replace NVDA is the addons, the support for programs out of the box and the fact that I'm just used to it.I'll use narrator from time to time if NVDA crashes and to test new voices/features