Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-23 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss Extensive exposure to either or is bad for you.  There is a need to relax your ears for a good while, just like anything else.  Sadly, the stupid thing is that for hearing ade users that chance honestly goes away until late at night when

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-22 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss Also, I read open back headphones are better for hearing, and are less likely to damage hearing, as the sound wave has a chance to spread out through the backs of the earcups. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/544387/#p544387

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-21 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss Fact: if you use earbuds over headphones you're more likely to develop ear issues over time. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/543832/#p543832 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-21 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : star fire via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss My ear was infected 2 years ago. That was most probably because swimming a lot in the swimming pool I think. For a month, I couldn't hear much for some hours. But when I was having real problems, my family took me to the hospital

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-20 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : enes via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss 53, for your sympathetic tinnitus, it happened to me as well, it is more like something resonating back in the ear in response to the sound. The tinny changes of hearing,  and that effect are known and common symptoms of  a certain condition

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-20 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Green Gables Fan via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss I've had this happen lots of times! The earliest I remember having it was in 2006. I was on the couch, and I think I was sleeping on my right side, and I had listened to an audiobook a few hours before. The next day, I woke up to hear

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss What did I call it?  The plastic misused harmonica?  No no no, that's not it... The blasted base supersonica... Wait, that doesn't sound right either...I know, I know!  Lets just call it double hearing! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : stasp via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss @19 i have it too some times.@20 yeah, i also have this kinda bep in my air that goes away after a few seconds. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/542882/#p542882 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : turtlepower17 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss Gatorade is nasty as shit, I agree. I still like powerade though, I was chugging that like there was no tomorrow a couple weeks ago when it was super hot here.I also had no idea there was a name for the thing where things sound slightly higher

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : brad via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss @keithwipf1, sounds to me like you need a ear bolb thing. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/542083/#p542083 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : keithwipf1 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss Twice this year I had weird times where my left ear suddenly started sort of muffling sounds and increasing their pitch.That ear is feeling full right now. It can't stop me from doing stuff on the computer but as soon as I get off, it makes

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ty via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss Yeah, like if something's in D and it's normally in C, I can tell. I can't tell the notes however. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/542035/#p542035 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss Same @Ty. I jus want to strangle adel because he also can tell exact pitch. I have an idea if something is higher or lower than usual, but dont ask me the specifics URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/542018/#p542018 -- Audiogames

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ty via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss I've always been envious of those that can tell what a note is. I could never do that. I have a fairly good consept of rhythm but not of pitch. I'm not sure if it's because I wasn't born blind or I just can't tell notes. I can tell key, just

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss Yep it's pretty watery. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/541827/#p541827 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-16 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss The first time I watched any Game of Thrones was via audio description. For whatever reason, sometimes audio description tracks are a semitone higher than they're supposed to be, so the opening theme was in C Sharp minor. So that's what I got

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss I prefer powerade to gatorade, that's for sure.  the real problem here is that gatorade has a ton of different formulas, so if you get your hands on g2 you're in for a rude awakening. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/541607/#p541607

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss dude gatorade got nasty. I remember when it used to be good, but I just had one the other day and holy shit. It was like someone took too much koolade powder plus some sugar and dumped in that shit and the water was saturated with shit. I need

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss Gatorade is here in the states as well.  IN fact, as I understand it, the drink was invented by a couple of students in Florida and thus got its name owing to the gator glades, officially known as the Everglades National Park. URL: https

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss Hmm, offtopic, but you guys have powerade? Over here there's a sport's drink called gaterade, which is pretty watery and comes in 3 flavours. A red, blue and orange. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/541580/#p541580 -- Audiogames

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss Go listen to it a bit and make sure it's still in C!  Tell me this is just my brain in conspiracy mode!Seriously, had to go listen to a few other things in different keys and drink some powerade to get myself fixed! URL: https

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss And now, I've got that theme in my head, after battling a year to get it out. Thanks Nocturninja. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/541570/#p541570 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss Bleh!  Got the stupid doublehearing thing going on right now.  Heard the Game of Thrones theme and I could swear to you up and down as things stand right now, that it's in C sharp!  I know it's not!  I can focus in on it with immense

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss This maybe totally unrelated, but sometimes, if I yawn, everything sounds hallow, or like an old timey radio. Also on the off chance I get the cold as well URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/541504/#p541504 -- Audiogames-reflector

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss Yeah, with 33 here.  for me it's more like being underwater to some extent but not entirely submerged.  It really is hard to explain. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/541498/#p541498 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss The pitch thing happens when I get a cold sometimes. When it's really bad, it'll have a warbling effect. It's hard to explain, it's like someone took a vibrato and put it on every sound, but then took a vibrato and put it on that sound

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss Yeah, its good to clean your ears now and then to prevent major wax build up. I tell you, olive oil does a really great job of cleaning it out. Thats what the doctor said, and that's our go to. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/541461

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss My partner tells me that both ears have a fair amount of wax build-up, too deep too touch but easy to see.My right ear is much better now, and you're right, it took awhile. I may keep doing a little hydrogen peroxide in one ear at a time

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss Truer words were never spoken. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/541367/#p541367 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss The bloody human body in general is a very confusing, annoying, crazy, disorintating, amazing and downright WTF at the asme time. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/541365/#p541365 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Simter via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss @27 that is really true. When this first happened to me (was like 7 at the time and was a portable cd player), i was frightened that the thing broke but after a few minutes it returned back to normal. Ears are tricky things in general

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ty via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss I also sometimes get the ringing, and most sounds do sound lower to me in the morning. For example, I used to be really into Simon electronic games, if I turned it on for like the two hours after I woke up, it sounded lower pitched. Confused

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Mirage via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss This has happened to me too, and it is frightening and disorienting.In all cases, it was either wax buildup or an ear infection.The good news is, your hearing will return to normal once your ears are cleaned, or if you need medication.But

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Simter via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss @19 this often happens to me when i get out of cold water, for an example swimmingpool  in holydays, it often enough happens that when i listen to stuff on my phone later on it sounds like it is all lower pitched. URL: https

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Simter via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss @19 this often happens to me when i get out of cold water, for an example swimmingpool  in holydays, it often enough happens that when i listen to stuff on my phone later on it sounds like it is all deeper URL: https://forum.audiogames.net

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : black_mana via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss i had experienced   tinnitus  from time to time but it wasn't mostly something i worried about too much because it usually goes after some seconds at post 21 at the  mention of not geting much sleep i do remember for a fact that  half a year

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : black_mana via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss i had experienced   tinnitus  from time to time but it wasn't mostly something i worried about too much because it usually goes after some seconds at post 21 at the  mention of not geting much sleep i do remember for a fact that  half a year

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss @18 and 20, fact is that if they sealed you in a vacuum you'd still hear it, and that is because no matter how silent the world goes around you you're still hearing everything from the innerworkings of your brain and the rest of your body

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : camlorn via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss I'm dealing with this too.  Doctor says it's allergies.  Given that allegra and flonase helped it probably is, and at some point when things settle down I'm going to get a proper allergy test for it, but it's starting to go away on its own now

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss @black_mana, the phenomena you refer to in post 19 is called diplacusis dysharmonica, a form of double hearing.  IN general, if the time you're experiencing it is in the morning chances are you've not gotten enough sleep and the real reason

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss @Simter, same. If I'm in a quiet location, like right now, depending on how quiet it is, I hear a ting noise. The loudest tee I've ever heard was when I was in the sound proof booth the doctor put me in to test

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : black_mana via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss i had something like that happen to me, i had one th first time i was young and i just used some oil to get it out, my mom would usually  do that for me but i think it was  almost 8 years ago sence i learned how to do it alone, but it got bad

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : black_mana via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss i had something like that happen to me, i had one th first time i was young and i just used some oil to get it out, my mom would usually  do that for me but i think it was  almost 8 years ago sence i learned how to do it alone, but it got bad

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : black_mana via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss i haven't had anything like that or close happening to me, but the only strange expirience i had was related more to how i hear sounds, sometimes when i wake up in the morning and sit down on my desk and listen to something had a musical tone

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Simter via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss @16 the worsed thing about these is that they even say, adleast in germany, on the case they are shipped on do not put those in your ears. How ever some sighted (unfortunately no braille) are aparrently to dumm to read that. I never had

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss Yeah we need hearing more than most, so it's something I personally wouldn't mess around with. And I hate going to the doctor with a passion. I'd much rather keep my distance from the medical practice for as long as possible, but I would go

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss @jayde, I'm glad to know you're not dismissing it.  Your ears are absolutely important and, take it from me, something you should be getting checked out regularly if only because much like your eyes, are far too complex to entirely

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss My partner is sighted, and apparently has one of those gadgets that doctor's offices use in order to look deep into a person's ear. It's completely harmless. She said she will look and see if I still have wax in my ear after the peroxide. My

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nolan via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss @11 Also, my hearing didn't come back all the way immediately after the flush. I'd say it hung around at 90% or so for a few hours while the remaining bits broke up and drained. It's like having water in your ear after swimming. I was a bit

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : mikes0916 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss better that you go to doctor sooner than too late. i think it is better. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/541118/#p541118 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : swigjr23 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss I actually had an ear infection several years ago that caused me to lose hearing in both ears for about a month. I had fluid behind both eardrums, and the doctor had to put a tube in one of my ears. My hearing eventually returned, but now I am

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jayde via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss I"m glad to know that this is at least semi-common and that it seems to clear up easily enough with most people.I actually tried a couple of drops of hydrogen peroxide this morning. The result was a bunch of fizzing, followed by

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : swigjr23 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss I am thinking it could be two things, a build up of wax or fluid behind the eardrum. if it is wax, flushing the ear should help, but if it is fluid behind the eardrum, see a doctor. I have allergies, and I get that full feeling every once

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nolan via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss Had almost this exact same thing happen almost a month ago. I was in lockdown at my girlfriend's for an extended amount of time, and was using over-the-ear headphones more extensively than I generally do. My left ear, the side I slept

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : brad via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss if your headphones are crumbleing, buy new ones if you can.The stuff that's crumbleing could get into your ear.I have a... ear bolb thing, you squeeze it in water, let it fill up, then put the end in your ear and squeeze the bolb end hard

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Jaidon Of the Caribbean via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss @Jayde, when I was younger I had wax build up. The doctors told me to toss some olive oil in the ear, than lie flat, with the ear that you pored the olive oul in the air. Wait about 15 minutes, then turn over and all the wax should come out

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Ty via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss I had a sort of similar situation as @5, it was my right ear, I tried getting it out with a QTip, and that only made it worse. Then I went to the doctor and they looked, said it was buildup. They had to get it out with I think it was hydrogen

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Lucas1853 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss I had this before. It would only be the left ear though, not the right. In my case I think it was just wax, but don't be like me and just get it out with a q-tip because like post 2 said it's probably not advisable. URL: https

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Boo15mario via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss Yes what @2 said URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/541052/#p541052 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss I would try to clean that material on the headphones because I'd imagine that builds up a healthy colony of bacteria after a while. You could try a bit of hydrogen peroxide in the ear, lay on your side with the affected ear up and wait maybe 3

Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss

2020-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ertay via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Sudden, temporary unexplained hearing loss That doesn't sound right - no pun intended. Definitely consult with a doctor as none of the people here would be able to help you with this. Also, if you have something in your ear, by trying to get it out with Q-tips, you are just risking