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It was a short story entitled give me cornbread or give me death in the collection I mentioned in the blog article. It was a fun story in it's premise, about a resistance taming dragons with spicy food, but it was a
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The Chimes sounds like a very interesting book, but Becky Chambers may not be my bag. I'm not sure, may have to investigate.Which Jemisin book was it that you read and don't like? the one I'm reading right now and
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I'm afraid the only N.K. Jemisin story I've read was very much an example of "look at the evil white christian people." But I'm willing to give her stuff another try, heck, even Connie willis wrote a terribly
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Yeah, as I said, we're not in disagreement there, not really. Apart from individual tolerances, I mean. I don't get my hackles up just because we have a trans character or a gay character or a black character. To
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Agreed on both Koontz and goodkind there Jaydd, Goodkind particularly gets much worse as he goes on, though sadly as I mentioned in aforesaid blog article, I'm increasingly encountering similar preaching these days
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The reson why is simple; if your talking unrelated contect such as simbles such as the one eye sign, obsession with which-craft and satanism and sexualising everything, music videos etc... That is because of the
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Dark, you and I agree absolutely on your last point, about "show don't tell". Dean Koontz is another example, alongside Goodkind. Really, really preachy sometimes, and I hate it.By all means show me inclusion. By
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@Chris, the problem with your "leave reality to reality" arguement, is that every author comes from a subjective perspective anyway. To take one example, JK Rowling has always said her ideal of happiness is a happy
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@Chris, the problem with your "leave reality to reality" arguement, is that every author comes from a subjective perspective anyway. To take one example, JK Rowling has always said her ideal of happiness is a happy
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Chris, if you were truly as okay with everything that you don't embody as you claim, then seeing it in your fiction and such wouldn't bother you. It would just be one more thing you're experiencing, one more thing
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There are lots of interesting responses here. I've suspected the answers given in posts 3 and 4 for a long time. I think that's what bothers me the most. I don't want your agenda, propaganda, or whatever you wish to
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At this point, Dark, I feel that you are attempting to oversimplify the situation because it is more comfortable for you to do so.There is not an ounce of "four legs good, two legs bad" present in any of my
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@Dan_Gero thumbs up there, everyone has various advantages which occur in different environments and according to social norms, my point is that not all social norms are monolithic and you cannot assume for example
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DanGero, you're right. We all have some privileges, some advantages, some lucky breaks in life.The description of privilege in one of my above posts refers to something bigger though. It refers to stuff on a
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We, as human beings, are all privileged in one way or another. The only people who aren't privileged are dead, but I suppose even that might be subjective.
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Note how I focused on your skin colour, your sexual orientation and your gender.I said nothing at all about your social class or your disability, since those things are areas where you are apt to be the one being
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Jayde wrote:Most of us have it to some degree. I am white, and male, and heterosexual. It is lucky for me that I am these things because, while I've experienced plenty of adversity from other angles, I've never been
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Jayde wrote:Most of us have it to some degree. I am white, and male, and heterosexual. It is lucky for me that I am these things because, while I've experienced plenty of adversity from other angles, I've never been
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Dark, let me clarify something here.Privilege in and of itself is not bad or good. it just is.If you experience or enjoy privilege, you should not be demonized for it. You aren't a bad person and shouldn't have a
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Dark, let me clarify something here.Privilege in and of itself is not bad or good. it just is.If you experience or enjoy privilege, you should not be demonized for it. You aren't a bad person and shouldn't have a
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Dark, let me clarify something here.Privilege in and of itself is not bad or good. it just is.If you experience or enjoy privilege, you should not be demonized for it. You aren't a bad person and shouldn't have a
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@Jayde thumbs up for post 12, though I confess I don't agree with you as much about token representations or the current movement necessarily being a good one. Alex, I'm sorry if that came across more personally
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Alex, I'm sorry if that came across more personally than intended, I wasn't meaning a dig at you specifically. I am just getting extremely tired of various people telling me how "privileged" I supposedly am given my
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Alex, I'm sorry if that came across more personally than intended, I wasn't meaning a dig at you specifically. I am just getting extremely tired of various people telling me how "privileged" I supposedly am given my
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Alex, I'm sorry if that came across more personally than intended, I wasn't meaning a dig at you specifically. I am just getting extremely tired of various people telling me how "privileged" I supposedly am given my
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@Dark: Not really sure why you try to call me out for "throwing around" the word privilege on here. I hardly ever post these days, and I'm fairly certain that said word is not one of the top 50 most common ones used
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@Jayde, I'm afraid I disagree with you on token representation being a good thing, or on this current rather radical hatred of the so called privileged straight white male majority as a good thing either, as I said,
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And to respond to people using one trait to represent some folks:Mostly agreed, actually. There are definitely moments of cringe. Some of them are because we are still new at actually making sure people are fairly
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Gonna jump in real quick here.In some books/movies/TV shows, character A (it doesn't matter who) can be defined by their relationships when they're straight, and nobody bats an eye. Look at soap operas, as one kind
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As a liberal democrat with more progressive leaning views on most things ...I have to agree with the poster here. Lots of content creaters really do not know how to include minority groups or women in a very
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@Alex, I can't speak for the series the OP mentioned not having seen it, but I have seen instances where unfortunately these days, characters are just getting stuck in whose only defining trait really is "look how
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@Alex, I can't speak for the series the OP mentioned not having seen it, but I have seen instances where unfortunately these days, characters are just getting stuck in whose only defining trait really is "look how
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I fully agree that having a token character is bad, but OP's post, to me, feels more like someone coming across something new and unknown and thinking it's getting pushed in for no good reason. The lawyer might be
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I fully agree that having a token character is bad, but OP's post, to me, feels more like someone coming across something new and unknown and thinking it's getting pushed in for no good reason. The lawyer might be
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Interview with Robin hobb wrote wrote:Interviewer: You have no fears about exploring non-conventional love stories and promoting same-sex relationships; how have readers responded to your open-mindedness?@Robin
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Interview with Robin hobb wrote wrote:Interviewer: You have no fears about exploring non-conventional love stories and promoting same-sex relationships; how have readers responded to your open-mindedness?@Robin
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Interview with Robin hobb wrote wrote:Interviewer: You have no fears about exploring non-conventional love stories and promoting same-sex relationships; how have readers responded to your open-mindedness?@Robin
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Interview with Robin hobb wrote wrote:Interviewer: You have no fears about exploring non-conventional love stories and promoting same-sex relationships; how have readers responded to your open-mindedness?@Robin
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I have no problem with characters in a book being LGBTQ. What I do have a problem with is that being their only defining character trait. If you have a gay character in a book, but pretty much their entire character
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God forbid the characters in a story reflect the real world's population.
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Simple answer? To appease the masses. If they don't, a bunch of people will bully and pressure them to add LGBTQ+ characters into their books. If they still don't do it, people will say that's prejudice and the
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The main reason that social commentary happens in books or movies, in my opinion, is the fact that the writers know that they have a large audience, and that they can express their personal or political views and
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I don't have an issue with a show having characters who are gay, trans etc., but I don't want my show to turn into wokeness hour. If they want to make a show specifically designed to explore the process of living
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The main reason that social commentary happens in books or movies, in my opinion, is the fact that the writers know that they have a large audience, and that they can express their personal or political views and
Thoughts on Shoehorning unrelated content into works of entertainment.
Hi all,I've been thinking about this for a while, and would like to get some more thoughts concerning this matter. I realize this might become very opinionated, but I'd like to have an honest discussion as to why this
Thoughts on Shoehorning unrelated content into works of entertainment.
Hi all,I've been thinking about this for a while, and would like to get some more thoughts concerning this matter. I realize this might become very opinionated, but I'd like to have an honest discussion as to why this
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