Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? I find that Telegram's hosted infrastructure means that calls, video calls are really stable. That's what Telegram has over Signal to me. They use the exact same Opus profile for audio, so they sound the same otherwise. URL:

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? Also, like, how is this a good thing? I'm confused. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/609917/#p609917 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? Where's that? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/609906/#p609906 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? signal just got blocked here by government authorities. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/609874/#p609874 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

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Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? 1, telegram is better, faster, it has more option's to work with, 2, i think what's up is selling the user info to face notebook, i meen facebook. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/609827/#p609827 --

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? The people are just parranoied. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/609806/#p609806 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? Has anyone ever got hacked and had sensitive info fallen into the wrong hands because of what whatsapp has on them? I'm sure a significant portion of the world population uses whatsapp, not sure about the number but I can

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? Well obviously, but I'd rather give my info to only those I have to, not some randoms with forced arbitration  and "no liability even in case of foreknowledge" clauses.I certainly trust Google and Apple with my info from a

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? Well obviously, but I'd rather give my info to only those I have to, not some randoms with forced arbitration  and "no liability even in case of foreknowledge" clauses.I certainly trust Google and Facebook with my info from a

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? No shit, but I'd rather give my info to only those I have to, not some randoms with forced arbitration  and "no liability even in case of foreknowledge" clauses.I certainly trust Google and Facebook with my info from a

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? No shit, but I'd rather give my info to only those I have to, not some randoms with forced arbitration  and "no liability even in case of foreknowledge" clauses.I certainly trust Google and Facebook with my info from a

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? No shit, but I'd rather give my info to only those I have to, not some randoms with forced arbitration  and "no liability even in case of foreknowledge" clauses.I certainly trust Google and Facebook with my info from a

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? But hackers will always be there, whether you like it or not.Nobody will ever be able to stop them from getting what they want.Yes, sure you can make it a bit harder to let them get to important data, but it won't be long

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? For me, it's because I don't want them having a ton of unnecessary data that some hacker will eventually breech and use to fuck up my life, or give some potential future stalker an easy way to find me.  Sure there is always

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? For me, it's because I don't want them having a ton of unnecessary data that some hacker will eventually breech and use to fuck up my life, or give some potential future stalker an easy way to find me.  Sure there is always

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? For me, it's because I don't want them having a ton of unnecessary data that some hacker will eventually breech and use to fuck up my life, or give some potential future stalker an easy way to find me.  Sure there is always

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? Why are people so conserned about their data?What is it that you need to send to a person other's may not know about?I understand if you say some deep shit to some one, and you don't want people to know about what you've said

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? @30, talk about ultra paranoia. If your that paranoid, get off the internet. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/609432/#p609432 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? I don't see why TG could not use your data even if they don't shout about it. I cannot trust TG as well. Not even up to whatsapp's extent. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/609406/#p609406 -- Audiogames-reflector

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Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? @28, I have plenty of options available but that comes down to what other people use, since every platform is used for a specific reason. For messaging WhatsApp seems to be the most common and convenient and people are likely

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Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? @26.You can get phone plans over in Turkey that included unlimited calls / texts. Go take a look at different carriers and their price ranges. I assume you're already paying a phone bill of some description just for calls,

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? We need to use WhatsApp because everyone that we have to do with, uses that. It's not that I have a profound desire to use WhatsApp or Signal or Telegram or Viber or Messenger and so on. It's also not that I have any pleasure

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? We need to use WhatsApp because everyone that we have to do with, uses that. It's not that I have a profound desire to use WhatsApp or Signal or Telegram or Viber or Messenger and so on. It's also not that I have any pleasure

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? Yes, we do have to use something Whatsapp over here because you have to pay for sms. When Whatsapp came out it just replaced sms. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607818/#p607818 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? Here's the thing though.If I want to text someone, I can just text them. My phone bill is a fixed rate each month regardless of how many calls and texts I make, so why not? Or I can IMessage for a large number of people, too.

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Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? I have all of them 3 because Whatsapp and Telegram are convenient and Signal I got to test something, so I still kept it.But to be honnest, my whole set of contacts is on Whatsapp, about 500 people, the rest of them don't use

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Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? @StormProductionsWhy not at least reduce the problem though unless it causes allot of trouble? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607790/#p607790 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? Well, what I can say is: I'll continue using WhatsApp no mater what they change in their ToS. I know my data is already shared, no matter if I use WhatsApp or not. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607765/#p607765

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? Actually, if we talk about desktop chatting, Unigram is indeed probably the best option right now. Sadly, Telegram on iOS does not match that in any way.In the end, we can talk about which app is better all day, but when it

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? once I found UniGram, I switched. Having a fully featured IM client on my desktop instead of a web app won me over. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607758/#p607758 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? So, that reminds me a Youtube video giving a nice explanation of it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWMZ17Iyu3oOf course, you may be, and even should be very sceptical of some guy in Youtube telling some stuff. That is the

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? So, that reminds me a Youtube video giving a nice explanation of it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWMZ17Iyu3oOf course, you may be, and even should be very sceptical of some guy in Youtube telling some stuff. That is the

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? So, that reminds me a Youtube video giving a nice explanation of it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWMZ17Iyu3oOf course, you may be, and even should be very sceptical of some guy in Youtube telling some stuff. That is the

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? Honestly? Because the service kinda sucks. No support for tablet devices. No support for multiple devices at all. Having to use QRCodes to get a similar experience from multiple devices... URL:

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? @ 3 london bridge is falling down. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607701/#p607701 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? Guys, use Discord. Problem solved. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607670/#p607670 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? @Post 1, I have the same question.I won't be switching to Signal or Telegram or whatever is being promoted as long as my 137 out of 145 contacts are still on WhatsApp, and considering that only 8 people on my contacts use

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? I use TG because its convenient for me. EVeryone has my data anyway. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607649/#p607649 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? Whatever they are, at least they're not facebook. We gotta use some kind of method to communicate, unfortunately. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607648/#p607648 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? People moving to TG probably don't even realise that it's data protection is also not the best, I would consider it even worse than Whatsapps.It's quite easy to find out as well, honey URL is the key here.In adition to the

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? Something else I don't think has been said.Alright, so signal is basically just another watsap. But like, seriously. Telegram has been used for far longer, and has far more use cases than just that. URL:

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? @7, uhm... They can be E2E encrypted but they can still see them too. Do keep in mind that the servers hold the crypto keys unless clients perform key negotiation via X25519 or something like that.@8-9, yeah, its a bunch of

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? @7, uhm... They can be E2E encrypted but they can still see them too. Do keep in mind that the servers hold the crypto keys unless clients perform key negotiation via X25519 or something like that.@8-9, yeah, its a bunch of

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? Yeah. And, GDPR, my friend. GDPR URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607630/#p607630 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

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Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? Paranoya. Even though you use your very private and secure signal you most probably use GBoard on your phone ha ha/ URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607623/#p607623 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? I don't understand...If you make use of whatsapp from the start, you are already giving them your number.The messages you send... they can already see them.Don't tell me they can't, because they sure can. they are just mind

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? I don't think I'll totally get rid of WhatsApp, but I'll rely on it a lot less; as things stand, I mostly use iMessage and FaceTime to talk with other Apple device users, but I also have both Signal and Telegram at my

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? hey, i cant read your messages but i can happyly access your other data and you know the best part is, you let me do it, so thank you verry much URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/607565/#p607565 --

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? To be honest, I don't care about any of the details of the updated agreement. As far as I understand, yes, whatsapp does not collect messages but it does collect other information. Them doing this in an ultimatum like way

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Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? Brother, if you believe that load of dookie, I've got a bridge in London to sell you, I promise it's cheap and it's structurally sound. In fact, so sound that it should last a hundred years or more with very little upkeep.

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Re: Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? People are switching because even though they say they haven't changed anything, they're allowed to change anything at any time and you can't opt out.  Plus the data they're already giving Facebook is quite enough to do a lot

Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp?

Why Are You All Moving to Telegram and Signal From WhatsApp? Hello,As explained in an article I red on a channel that talks about WhatsApp Beta News, the core of the updated Terms of Service of WhatsApp is solution provider, a set of specific tools available for businesses, in order to