Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @Ethintrue that! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/436817/#p436817 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @122, I get what Jack was talking about. I don't consider myself an Android Evangelist (I've never even heard of that kidn of term being used) but I will gladly use Android over iOS any day. As I said in 121, I believe that Android is doing its

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @EthinSome folks will look at "referenced" material from another thread, others will not. With that being said, here's @Jack's full quote in relation to this topic, which I separate with its own heading.Jack's Words"Admittedly the An

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @120, I don't really get what your point is. I disagree with the quote you put at the start -- because there will be some people to vote for accessibility improvements -- but you can't expect everyone to be happy with those improvements. Everyone

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? So, I'm connecting Post 21 From some RS Games IOS thread over to here, as the below quoted sentence fits well:"Seems like some of the android user-base is so good at making noise when companies aren't actively listening, but when it

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @Synthlonetica Productions:1. Brailleback beta has braille support slowly but surely improving, with grade 2 support being implemented (finally). Works pretty well with my Braillenote Touch (posing a s a Brailliant when in braille terminal mode).2

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? The issue is one of software patents. The reason braille support on something like the Touch is so good is because the braille manager is custom, probably licensed from Duxbury. You know, the company that still charges $600 for a braille

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? no one appears to have  used brailleBack, much less the beta that came out, I reckonI use my orbit reader with it and works fine. Yes, its an additional service to install but braille displays are not really that cheap. Actually now that I remember

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? no one appears to have  used brailleBack, much less the beta that came out, I reckonI use my orbit reader with it and works fine. Yes, its an additional service to install but braille displays are not really that cheap. Actually now that I remember

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @113 Yeah, Braille support in TalkBack can be an issue, and @111, Thanks for that advice.While I don't know what Braille devices are supported by TalkBack, If someone says Braille support is lacking in something as simple as a screen reader, I'll

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? The pixel2 gave you more bang for you buck at $650, and even as a person who prefers Google-branded devices I am not taking the Pixel 3 upgrade, because I don't feel like plunking down an extra $200 for wireless charging, simply because wireless

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @113, I doubt implementing braille translation tables between computer character codes and braille dots and vice-versa is easy by any stretch, so I can understand why Google hasn't -- they may not know how. Or they just don't want to use liblouis

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? I like Android quite a lot. I've never had a problem with TalkBack personally. The web issues were fixed years ago and it works well for the most part. The only issue I have is the poor Braille support. There's no excuse for it. Braille should

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? I like Android quite a lot. I've never had a problem with TalkBack personally. The web issues were fixed years ago and it works well for the most part. The only issue I have is the poor Braille support. There's no excuse for it. Braille should

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @111, dude, get used to people doing that. People will judge you on this thing called a 'first impression'. And they won't ever forget that judgement. It'll always be there, niggling at the back of your mind. You can improve that judgement

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @109 Okay, While you might be right about the whole raging about stuff that is out of date thing and doing my homework about the latest stuff, the reason I say I'm not "Apple biased" or "Android biased" is because I don't

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? a slight correctionSynthlonetica Productions wrote:@nidza07 I will also never forget the first time I used an iPhone (yes, it was my mother's iPhone 4, but it still counts).oh, Apple bias! alert, alertYes, I may be letting the opinions of people

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? a slight correctionSynthlonetica Productions wrote:@nidza07 I will also never forget the first time I used an iPhone (yes, it was my mother's iPhone 4, but it still counts).oh, Apple bias! alert, alertYes, I may be letting the opinions of people

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? a slight correctionSynthlonetica Productions wrote:@nidza07 I will also never forget the first time I used an iPhone (yes, it was my mother's iPhone 4, but it still counts).oh, Apple bias! alert, alertYes, I may be letting the opinions of people

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @108, your not "Apple Biased" or "Android Biased" by any means? Your prior posts completely negate that claim, you know. Post 97 practically yelled for all the world to here "I hate Android! Fuck Android!" And, OK,

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @108, your not "Apple Biased" or "Android Biased" by any means? Your prior posts completely egate that claim, you know. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/435370/#p435370 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @107 Okay, first of all, I am using a Alcatel smartphone that my dad used to use but he got fed up with it and gave it to me, so I am currently using a fucking hand-me-down device.While I do think that Android must have made important accessibility

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @106, I... disagree. Entirely. I really, really do not think those people were 'talking from up-to-date experience'. The only thing post 97 did was make you look like an idiot. The only thing I saw out of 97 were the words "rage rage rage"

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @nidza07 I will also never forget the first time I used an iPhone (yes, it was my mother's iPhone 4, but it still counts).Yes, I may be letting the opinions of people I've been talking to on Skype color my judgement, but I have no doubt

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? I will always remember how amazing and stable experience I had when I was on iOS 8. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/435335/#p435335 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @97, just Rofl. That has to be the funniest BS I've ever read! You do know that Android owns 74.85 percent of the mobile OS market share worldwide as of April of this year, followed by Apple at an insignificant 22.94 percent? OMG that made my day

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Synthlonetica Productions wrote:To be quite honest, I hate to even entertain the idea of even calling Android a stable O S.well this was for sure, very entertaining and made my dayAndroid is nowhere near stable, and it's very clear that the company

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @97 now that, is some fanboyistic bullshit right there. While I've seen Android get unstable, I could always attribute it to something. Like, I'd just got done fucking with shit, and now all the sudden its bootlooping or softbooting at weird

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Gotta disagree with the part about Google devices providing the best experience, and because one, that is objective and two, pretty sure my galaxy s10 is just as snappy as a pixal, though having said that I haven't actually tried a google branded

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Whoa, @Synthlonetica Productions, tone it down a little there.If Android has baby customers then why is it the mobile system that is most open to developers? And what device were you even using? If you're going to criticize android, you really

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Hello. Youtube links will be posted. Turns out I should have the phone today (Tuesday the 21( Hoping to have videos up by next week. I need the rest of this week to re-familiarize myself with android and learn the phone a bit before I feel

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Lol. Unstable OS? That is the funniest thing I've heard in a long time! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/435157/#p435157 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Not necessarily. Samsung's sell for a lot, at least in Canada and the US. And frankly, I don't think anyone who gets Samsung wants a slice of that particular cake. You'll find most people who are advanced users won't go to Samsung for those

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Not necessarily. Samsung's sell for a lot, at least in Canada and the US. And frankly, I don't think anyone who gets Samsung wants a slice of that particular cake. You'll find most people who are advanced users won't go to Samsung for those

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @AssaultFreak: Of course, you bring up a good point when mentioning it's all about choice. But that's been one of Android's strongsuits for the longest time. Problem with Samsung and choice is you can't have your cake and eat it too, i.e if you

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @AssaultFreak: Of course, you bring up a good point when mentioning it's all about choice. But that's been one of Android's strongsuits for the longest time. Problem with Samsung and choice is you can't have your cake and eat it too, i.e if you

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @88 Your practical post says just about all I meant to say in my rambling one, thanks so much! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/435108/#p435108 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @austingrace can you post the youtube link here when you start? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/435060/#p435060 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? I also find it funny that many of the people complaining about slow updates or a complete lack of it are talking about it from devices at least 3 or 4 years behind. No, not every company will continue to maintain their devices for a long time

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? well said, assault_freakI also had a surprisingly fast update to android pie. That from the older marsmallow android 6.0 which never got updated (thanks blackberry and empty promises) I was using changed things a lot in terms of accessibility

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? it is not for all samsung only s6 and s plus or something. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/435035/#p435035 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? I don't think any samsung users, myself included, are saying that it's a one sie fits ll situation. Samsung is not the only OEM who gives slow updates or has devices that don't allow for the latest versions of Android to run on them. And Pie and Qs

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Ehh, from everything I've read since my last post it seems to me that the playing field is still pretty much the same.  Accessibility is such a relative term that means a ton of stuff to different people, so for the time being, I'll stick to iOS

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Ehh, from everything I've read since my last post it seems to me that the playing field is still pretty much the same.  Accessibility is such a relative term that means a ton of stuff to different people, so for the time being, I'll stick to iOS

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? And this is exactly the problem that keeps many blind folks away from Android. Samsung is not a one-size-fits-all, and the latest versions of Android have very important accessibility fixes. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/435022/#p435022

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? damn can not install android 9.0 ofitially in samsung galaxy s6 edge, and  i need root for it but no thanks. Will use 7.0 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/434993/#p434993 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Some of you may find this interesting to read. Well guys, for the goodness of everyone, I have bought a pixel 3A XL and will be sharing my experience on youtube. Can it replace my iPhone 8 plus? I can't answer that question. Now before the android

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Some of you may find this interesting to read. Well guys, for the goodness of everyone, I have bought a pixel 3A XL and will be sharing my experience on youtube. Can it replace my iPhone 8 plus? I can't answer that question. Now before the android

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Josh wrote:If that's the case then wow, talk about a dick move... ...  since the option to root is a requirement for me.I see rooting as being less and less necessary nowadays. Especially because of this eye brow raising perspective with which I

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Having companies dictate what we can do with the devices we pay for just rubs me the wrong way. If the accessibility of Android was on par with iOS, I would have probably switched a long time ago since I'm not a fan of Apple's walled garden

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? No fear there.. plenty of options to choose from! Multifinger gestures and a magic tap were both big things for me which is why I went with samsung. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/434868/#p434868 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? If that's the case then wow, talk about a dick move. I've given some thought to possibly switching from iOS when the time comes to upgrade my phone. If the rumors end up being true, I sure as hell won't be going with Samsung since the option

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @78, not sure when, but the roomer I've heard is that when you try and root a Samsung device, it blows some kind of eFuse(I don't know how...) and bricks your device. I don't know how it does it but it does it. Supposedly. Oh, and its

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @78, not sure when, but the roomer I've heard is that when you try and root a Samsung device, it blows some kind of eFuse(I don't know how...) and bricks your device. I don't know how it does it but it does it. Supposedly. URL: https

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @74, I'm impatiently waiting for Lookout to come to Canada. And @76, Samsung is almost an equivalent, but they are not... because you still aren't locked into one ecosystem. But when you're a tech giant, competition is all you see... but having

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Samsung devices are impossible to root? Since when and why? This makes my likelyhood of buying a Samsung device go down to 0%. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/434841/#p434841 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Everyone keeps saying apple patented the idea of multitouch gestures. Samsung also has this.. so Apple can't have exclusive rights to it unless Samsung bought the permission from them... Talkback's refusal to implement multifinger gestures doesn't

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Samsung has proprietary stuff left and right, they're almost as bad as Apple in that regard. They're the company that tried to call a bs patent infringement on Apple (before they even had an accessibility solution) that would essentially force

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Hi. Regarding multy touch gestures, at present, it is simply impossible for commentary to do it. Before you say but  voice assistant does it, don't forget that Samsung does not only make voice assistant, but an entirely customized version

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? 1. Budget Pixel3A: Do you mean $670 in Canadian? It's $400 over here.The difference is likely in system specs, inability to receive updates when everyone else does (unless Nokia is faster with updates) not as much of a chance of the fingerprint

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? 1. Budget Pixel3A: Do you mean $670 in Canadian? It's $400 over here.The difference is likely in system specs, inability to receive updates when everyone else does (unless Nokia is faster with updates) not as much of a chance of the fingerprint

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? 1. Budget Pixel3A: Do you mean $670 in Canadian? It's $400 over here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/434781/#p434781 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Jack you keep suggesting the Pixel, and it does seem great, but even the mid range one is 670 bucks.  Is there really that much of a difference between that one and say, the Nokia 7.1? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/434776/#p434776

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @Jack thanks that's gonna be a tough learning curve for me but I think I'll still try it. I'm getting tired of Apple and I think I'd get more out of my Google Home with Droid. Is there any site for Android that suggests accessable apps akin

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @Jack h that's gonna be a tough learning curve for me but I think I'll still try it. I'm getting tired of Apple and I think I'd get more out of my Google Home with Droid. Thanks URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/434768/#p434768

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @Jeffb:Android does only use one or two finger gestures. Which does mean less gestures to remember/use. That being said there's no magic-tap equivalent to stop and start music playback, but there's Button Mapper for that.@Devin: That's only because

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? I'm really considering getting the Google Pixel 4 when it comes out. I've been interested in switching to Droid for a while now and have a few questions. I listened to Nick Adamson's Blindly Switching podcast and it sounds like you have to do all

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? I'm really considering getting the Google Pixel 4 when it comes out. I've been interested in switching to Droid for a while now and have a few questions. I listened to Nick Aamson's Blindly Switching podcast and it sounds like you have to do all

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Okay, here are my thoughts on all this.Google has a culture based on creating new things. I've read in some places that Google employees get pats on the back and maybe even promotions based on working on new things. That's probably why a new

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @nocturnus:Android accessibility is close in line with IOS, if you are using a less bloated system. In the mainstream world that usually means Google-Pixel devices.Apple Music: There's an app for that on the Play Store, and it's reasonably

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @ethin: I believe there is sourcecode available as well, so that's always a nice bonus. IN either case the Agenda app and Database app, which mimic the psion applications, are obviously lightweight and meant for productivity. So for once, a custom

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @64Yeah. Not to bash voice dictation or anything, it's just ultimately not my thing. Those are good suggestions though, I'll have to check them out. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/434274/#p434274 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? ross wrote:@47Not being able to text without using dictation or a keyboard is honestly a dealbreaker for me TBH. My job requires me to constantly be traveling and communicating with others.I think typing has been extensively discussedI have never

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @61, I may check the Cosmo Communicator out and see if I can back it. Hell, I might get the PDA that's available ATM and see how accessible their software is. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/434221/#p434221 -- Audiogames-reflector

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Because it has a history of not being half accessible and jumping around the universe. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/434199/#p434199 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @nocturnus: Completely agree that Android does require more customization. However, you bought an HTC, and HTC is probably one of the worst brands in the history of accessibility, because their interfaces are god-awful.@Ross: read about the cosmo

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? I think people are sort of sneering at iOS users as if they are simply too stupid to figure out Android. This is an assumption, and when you apply it to a whole group of people, it becomes a stereotype. I've figured out Android. I've used ADB

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Android accessibility, if in fact it is catching up, is doing so at a time when I'm getting too old for the ball park.  When windows 98 came out, I experimented without restraint.  When XP showed up, I did the same thing.  When Vista was being

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? So,There are a few "Free" OCR apps which ya may wish to give a looksy at. These include Speak!The vOICeLookOut OCRIf your country does not have any of the apps listed above, use the Toolbox for Google Play Store™ Chrome extension, fr

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @50How do you type on your phone?@51Could you describe what that is?@56I completely agree. There's no way I'm going to carry around a keyboard just to send texts lol, that's ridiculous. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/434092/#p434092

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Hi.Generally, doesn't matter if it's android or iOS, but I despise carrying a keyboard around with me, doesn't matter if it's a braille keyboard or a bluetooth keyboard.When I am doing notes on the way or have to write down some quick info, I use

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? i've used android? for over 4 years now, it's very nice and i never   bashed it, but snese i bought my new iphone i begin to  get away from it  , apple   prodect are simply and easy to use, that's what i've saw in the iphone it self URL: https

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? BSI has revolutionized the speed at which I type, the only limitation being my general unease with braille. When I type on android devices, it is so slow, no, forget that. I have also tried several braille keyboards with Android, all of which do

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @Cmerry: If it's locked to that specific carrier, then you are probably going to want to root if you don't get Android Q when everyone else does. You're lucky you have a Pixel, as Samsung devices (at least the U.S. variants) at least galaxy s9

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? I use TalkBack and I type just fine. and yes agreeing with post 40 about prices. I also feel like android give you a little more fexibility whee apps are concerned. If you can't you can usually find one that's accessible with a little trial

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @ross, If you need to communicate for the job then you may even want to consider something like the Planet Computers Gemini or Cosmo Communicator Android-based pda's. You're really gonna want that built-in keyboard, and what better way than

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? @47Not being able to text without using dictation or a keyboard is honestly a dealbreaker for me TBH. My job requires me to constantly be traveling and communicating with others. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/434062/#p434062

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? The responsiveness of talkback issue could also be more of a tts problem. Google tts, as well as some others like vocalizer and accapella, aren't exactly well known for there responsiveness when doing general things. Typing has never really been

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? The responsiveness of talkback issue could also be more of a tts problem. Google tts, as well as some others like vocalizer and accapella, aren't exactly well known for there responsiveness when doing general things. Typing has never really been

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Yeah you get screwed over if you go through a carrier because they give you late updates, then stop giving you updates altogether. So, unless you want to root and then flash the updated ROM yourself, you're not getting it. URL: https

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Ross,Ross wrote:1. As far as I know, Talkback does not have something similar to Voiceover's touch passthrough, the thing that allows me to type on Flicktype. Every person I know that uses Talkback uses dictation. I mean, if you're fine with other

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Ross,Ross wrote:1. As far as I know, Talkback does not have something similar to Voiceover's touch passthrough, the thing that allows me to type on Flicktype. Every person I know that uses Talkback uses dictation. I mean, if you're fine with other

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? You think apple doesn’t lack in updates? Hahahahaha URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/434033/#p434033 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? The reason I use IOS over Android, and more specifically Voiceover over Talkback is for the following reasons:1. As far as I know, Talkback does not have something similar to Voiceover's touch passthrough, the thing that allows me to type

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? If I remember correctly, nearby explorer online, the free application does work internationally, not just in north America thankfully. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/434007/#p434007 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? I have really tried hard, very hard to use a mac. I also have tried very hard to use and Ipad. And I simply could just never get the hang of it... let alone the very basics. Everything was just too.. confusing? done in just one way, sort

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? I have really tried hard, very hard to use a mac. I also have tried very hard to use and Ipad. And I simply could just never get the hang of it... let alone the very basics. Everything was just too.. confusing? done in just one way, sort

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? I have really tried hard, very hard to use a mac. I also have tried very hard to use and Ipad. And I simply could just never get the hang of it... let alone the very basics. Everything was just too.. confusing? done in just one way, sort

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? Thumbs up at post 40! Exactly my view on this subject. Too bad there are all too many people who are blind to that fact that stick up for either camp without opening their eyes a litle. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/433982/#p433982

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android?

Re: Why do so many blindies bash android? I guess, it comes always down to what kind of person you are. If you want something, that works out of the box, that is simple and easy to use, you should go for an Iphone. I did that, when I bought my first smart phone many years ago

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