Re: blindness and overclocking
i think i have found a silution for this that isnt gonna break things. windows 10 debloater. it will remove stuff you dont need or probibly use. and can aparently give up to a 30 percet preformance increase
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Re: blindness and overclocking
Also, there are many many processors used today, from arm processors to all the AMD inthusiast versions, to all the Intel processors both desktop and laptop, that determining the processor someone used, and writing exploits for all of them in existance
Re: blindness and overclocking
44, this is not just my saying that it is difficult to exploit these vulnerabilities. Intel themselves mentioned this, to digital trends that exploiting these outside of a lab environment was very complex, and not likely to be done.Here is the article
Re: blindness and overclocking
correct. i compleatly agree
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Re: blindness and overclocking
@enesWith all due respect, you don't understand how this works at all and should stop arguing about it until you do.Antiviruses can detect software vulnerabilities. They can go "Huh something just called the function that tries to delete Windows, that'
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i agree with both of you. it hasnt been exploited in the wiled as far as we know yet, but, why dont we patch it incase someone makes a mass one for a specific cpu and sends it out. then what if we dont. all those people will have their stuff stolen.
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@41, but again, just because it hasn't been exploited in the wild (that we know of yet) doesn't mean it won't be. So why should we not patch those problems now before they're actually used against us?
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40, exactly my point. Executing an attack based on the speculative execution vulnerabilities requires detailed knowledge of the target CPUs, in addition to programing. Moreover, if I understand correctly, you need to know exactly what CPU the target uses
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@37, no, we wouldn't know about it. Spectre/Meltdown rely on intimate knowledge of the processor, and therefore its probably not something that's easily detectable by AV software. What would they even look for, given they use pattern matching?
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Lol, meltdown and spectre still worth discussing?I like to compare them to nuclear bombs. The material to build those was there for thousands of years, but we just recently discovered how to build those. As soon as the first one, no matter how complicated
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@37 um no? they did not know about that for some time, and they had to get the patches into the systems once it was found in a lab.
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@36 um no? they did not know about that for some time, and they had to get the patches into the systems once it was found in a lab.
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Re: blindness and overclocking
35, here is the issue. No security vulnerability discovered until now had patches posted that destroyed older processors. The fact that machines people bought and paid for became useless pieces of plastic is grounds to disable the fixes. If these fixes
Re: blindness and overclocking
@34, yes, the heard immunity argument does apply. Criminals love to exploit people who refuse to patch. It happens all the time. And typically, people are stupid, and they set something up insecurely just so they can use it as fast as possible and without any
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@34, yes, the heard immunity argument does apply. Criminals love to exploit people who refuse to patch. It happens all the time. And typically, people are stupid, and they set something up insecurely just so they can use it as fast as possible and without any
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@34Assume everyone goes and disables them. If you have 50 million people who do that, you have 50 million targets. Hackers don't write viruses unless there's profit in it. The security vulnerability was published, which means that even if we didn't have
Re: blindness and overclocking
Ok, so I am aware of the potential of spectre and how it can escape VMs. But my point still stands, this is a vulnerability that requires an intimate knowledge of processors to exploit. And, noone knew about it for 30 years, and there were, and still
Re: blindness and overclocking
Ok, so I am aware of the potential of spectre and how it can escape VMs. But my point still stands, this is a vulnerability that requires an intimate knowledge of processors to exploit. And, noone knew about it for 30 years, and there were, and still
Re: blindness and overclocking
i have herd that afterburner has fetures to check how much you hsould overclock. but yea it could still be damaging.
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Re: blindness and overclocking
OK, I didn't bother reading the last 25 posts, since the first 5 weren't right in the first case.I overclocked my PC here, at least the CPU, I don't see any reason to overclock my GPU right now.I built my PC from scratch with both Mac (Hackintosh) support
Re: blindness and overclocking
@30It's not because we fixed it in a couple months and everyone installed the patches that everyone is complaining about. If people hadn't done that, it would be very bad.My point isn't "be afraid, this is still a problem". It's not as long a
Re: blindness and overclocking
@29 dang, I did not think that it was going to get that bad
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Re: blindness and overclocking
@27You don't seem to understand Specter's potential. At all. It's a *huge* deal if you can read memory outside your process. As in, you went to a harmful web site and, without even installing anything, just by having your browser open, they're able to go
Re: blindness and overclocking
security and convenience have always been diametrically opposed. The more stringent you are on security, the less convenient is is for you and those who work with / for you. As a personal preference, I tend to lean towards convenience and performance, because
Re: blindness and overclocking
25, again, all of the spectre attacks basicly require some sort of user interaction, and the massive performance penalty, that makes older processors totally unusable and terrible does not justify applying the patches.
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Re: blindness and overclocking
Specter and Meltdown were able to be targeted through a browser running _javascript_ and the only reason there weren't attacks in the wild is that they were dealt with promptly.Your screen reader itself won't use multiple cores, but every program on your PC
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@23, I disagree. Yes, these vulnerabilities have only been demonstrated in labs. Yes, there are no attacks in the wild... yet. But just because there are no attacks in the wild doesn't mean that there won't ever be any, and its better to patch a system
Re: blindness and overclocking
that website seems really nice. I wonder if there is a similar one for windows, that goes beyond what inspectre does. I would want to completely revert the spectre patches in the bios and disable all the fixes.
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Re: blindness and overclocking
I would disagree on that though. These vulnerabilities have never been used in the wild. There are lab vulnerabilities crafted by researchers to further their careers, not realistic attacks that could easily be exploited. Exploiting these would require
Re: blindness and overclocking
@21, trust me, disabling those patches... there's a reason MS doesn't let you do it all the way. There's a reason why security experts decry sights like make-linux-fast-again.com. The cost in security risks is just far, far too high, and until Intel and AMD
Re: blindness and overclocking
20, I agree with you regarding performance penalties. What many don't realize is that the older the processor, the larger the performance penalty. That article compared coffee lake processors, but say, an arandale sandy bridge/ivy bridge haswell processor
Re: blindness and overclocking
@18, yes. There are patches but even the Linux kernel developers admit that patches are useless because they exact a performance cost that is starting to seriously hurt the user experience. If you want to avoid meltdown/spectre -- or, more accurately, spectre
Re: blindness and overclocking
15, you are not correct on dual core systems. Untıl 2017, the standard number of cores for laptops, minus the i7 H series or M series was dual core. Now it is possible to get 8 core processors. As for screen readers, I thought they could not take advantage
Re: blindness and overclocking
15, you are not correct on dual core systems. Untıl 2017, the standard number of cores for laptops, minus the i7 H series or M series was dual core. Now it is possible to get 8 core processors. As for screen readers, I thought they could not take advantage
Re: blindness and overclocking
@17Are you sure? I thought there were in fact patches that didn't disable hyperthreading these days.
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@14, You do know that AMD suffered spectre/meltdown as well? And so did ARM? You gonna boycott AMD and ARM just to avoid spectre/meltdown too?The only way to fix spectre/meltdown is not through software but through hardware. Spectre/meltdown are hardware
Re: blindness and overclocking
@14And if you did, you would discover that it doesn't help you at all, I'm pretty sure. You only get 10-20% at most, *especially* if it's a dual core machine that's bad enough to lag out the screen reader. Those impressive overclocking results that have you
Re: blindness and overclocking
I had a dual core laptop back in 2006. In 2009 I got a quad core machine. I don't think anyone is using Dual core machines at this point, and if they are, they shouldn't be.
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Re: blindness and overclocking
Camlorn we don't know what someone might want to do though. Screen readers do indeed lag on dual core systems, especially after all the spectre/meltdown patches. That pretty much insures I won't be buying any processor from intel again in the near future
Re: blindness and overclocking
I mean yes, it's safer than it used to be. If you go out and specifically buy hardware that's designed to let you overclock safely, you'll probably be all right. If you don't, all bets are off. It's in the category of safe but only if you planned
Re: blindness and overclocking
Are you really pressing the limits though? I mean I have an R5 and it doesn't scream unless it's really thrashed by something like a big mainstream game.
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Re: blindness and overclocking
i mean i know it can be dangerous if you go all out. but if you just do logical stuff then its fine as fare as i under stand
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Re: blindness and overclocking
The idea it isn't a good idea to overclock does not apply to hardware designed to be overclocked, some makes of ram, and intel processors with the K letter at the end, and most AMD r7/R9 processors can be overclocked. So you are not running it out of its
Re: blindness and overclocking
The idea it isn't a good idea to overclock does not apply to hardware designed to be overclocked, some makes of ram, and intel processors with the K letter at the end, and most AMD r7/R9 processors can be overclocked. So you are not running it out of its
Re: blindness and overclocking
I could use the software that my motherboard uses but, even they have a sidclamer that it is not a good idea to over clock any part
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Re: blindness and overclocking
Did you skip over this part?Article wrote:Super-serious disclaimer time: Overclocking is far less dangerous to the health of your components than it used to be – with fail-safes built into modern silicon – but you will still be running your hardware outside
Re: blindness and overclocking
Wow, a lot of misinformed people here about overclocking. Sadly I don't know of a way to do it without sighted assistance, but I have a few comments about the safety of it. For modern chips, even if you mess up with the numbers in the BIOS settings, your
Re: blindness and overclocking
well dam. i read a thing saying its easy and safe. i iwll send it for anyone who would like proof that i read it or somethinghttps://www.pcgamesn.com/overclocking-g … ck-cpu-gpu
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Re: blindness and overclocking
Ok, even if you're sighted, overclocking doesn't get you that much more performance. As in you won't be able to notice save by running benchmarks. And it gets you a *lot* more risk of something or other literally melting. I'm not being hypothetical
Re: blindness and overclocking
its custom built with good specs. but i want more preformance
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Re: blindness and overclocking
Why do you want to do this. It just degrades the lifespan of your chipset. With the people in this community that don't even wanna drop $10 on a game, try $1K on a new PC.
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Re: blindness and overclocking
Sorry, but just don't overclock at all. The cpu specifications are not there for fun, and also it didn't help this much either when my sighted friends did it.
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so i, and maybe others, want to overclock are computers gpu and cpu. but msi afterburner is compleatly in accessible. so how do we do it safely
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so me, and other people want to over clock are cpus/gpus. msi afterburner has a realy good feture that can figure out what the best we can get out of are gpus is. but its compleatly in accesible. so what apps should we use. or just how do we do it.
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