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Re: frontend web development @34A more direct answer to your question is the problem that making a website appealing is subjectively arbitrary. Just because the person you asked didn't like the font, font size, padding, or colors, doesn't mean others wouldn't like it, or how many wouldn't

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Re: frontend web development @34A more direct answer to your question is the problem that making a website appealing is subjectively arbitrary. Just because the person you asked didn't like the font, font size, padding, or colors, doesn't mean others wouldn't like it, or how many wouldn't

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Re: frontend web development @32 let me tell you one of my experiences and show you that you are completely wrong:I designed a simple webpage (really really simple one) with a background color of black and foreground of white (2 different colors).when I showed that to a sighted person, he

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Re: frontend web development @32 let me tell you one of my experiences and show you that you are completely wrong:I designed a simple webpage (really really simple one) with a background color of black and foreground of white (2 different colors).when I showed that to a sighted person, he

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Re: frontend web development @31While sensory substitution may make up for some things in limited contexts, I will concede only once we actually have blind frontend devs.  You can't get the kind of resolution necessary out of any of that stuff.Also: if you have vision for a while you get

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Re: frontend web development @30i agree that we can't do complicated designing but, if we stick to simple way thats enough. the real question is why would we want to do really complicated designs? and again most likely no company would hire a blind person as their front end developperfor

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Re: frontend web development @23Hmm... If you take two people, one blind and one sighted and have them look at a portrait in their respective ways, the sighted person will likely remark on the overlay of color and perspective visually. The blind person will likely appreciate the texture

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Re: frontend web development although bootstrap can make it responsive, but you need sighted assistance in any case.@28, it's not possible. (if you do it, it might not look something appealing as many of the websites which are designed by sighted people are not looking good).another thing

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Re: frontend web development @27i m not new to web, not saying it will be perfectly ok but, u can play with headings, fonts, margins etc and ask someone with sight how it looks, thats what i m trying to say. Although i hadn't deal with css mutch , this is the way i would go thru.Edit

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Re: frontend web development @28Yes. Which is what I've said. But you would be amazed how fast this turns into asking the sighted person to do it for you.  Got to check the site on all combinations of the following:Windows+Firefox, Windows+Edge, Windows+Chrome, Windows+Internet Explorer

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Re: frontend web development @27i m not new to web, not saying it will be perfectly ok but, u can play with headings, fonts, margins etc and ask someone with side how it looks, thats what i m trying to say. Although i hadn't deal with css mutch , this is the way i would go thru. URL

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Re: frontend web development @26Try this and get back to us, and you'll come away understanding why we're telling you this can't be done. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/515981/#p515981 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

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Re: frontend web development @20 and @21i was meaning copy and tweak your code accordingly. offcourse no need to say examine sites with simillar content of Yours. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/515919/#p515919 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

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Re: frontend web development @24, the thing with wordpress is that it's default themes are as crap as hell.(saw it, sighted people agreed with me at least regarding twenty ten).for someone blind we even don't need css at all (the website can be a simple html page).but I'm talking about

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Re: frontend web development 1. Use WordPress or the default themes for whatever you are building. This will get things 90% there and will work to make your site not look bad.2. Use a UI library like Vaadin that has default styling. You will need to sit next to someone with the CSS

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Re: frontend web development @22I don't know, and I am speaking as someone who tried to get that knowledge and failed.  I let the themes of my static site generator handle it.The most junior frontend people I've ever worked with go beyond where blind people can follow almost immediately

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Re: frontend web development @18What precisely are we talking about here? I don't disagree that theory isn't everything, but in what respect is it not enough? Aesthetically? In the functional creation of digital art? In the development of complex CSS scripting? There are varying degrees

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Re: frontend web development @19Actually, no you cannot. You have to get all the CSS selecters right for your page as a bare minimum.CSS isn't just setting background and foreground color.  It sets literally hundreds of properties per element using a complex query language that can let you

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Re: frontend web development Just because it works does not mean that it will do so in your situation. Not every code runs the same and different browsers. Not every code runs the same and different page layouts. You can’t tell that it works as it should. Finally, people may have had

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Re: frontend web development Just because it works does not mean that it will do so in your situation. Not every code runs the same and different browsers. Not every code runs the same and different page layouts. You can’t tell. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/515791/#p515791

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Re: frontend web development @18You can simply copy a working csss. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/515721/#p515721 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

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Re: frontend web development @12It's not really an argument about learning styles.  If it was possible to do music via music theory or painting via painting theory, we'd have had AI doing this in the 90s.  yes, it's useful.  yes, you can use it as a jumping off point. But at the end

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Re: frontend web development in fact there are two ways of  clearing up this issue and actually combining two is my method.1.Imitate what others do. Examine other html pages, how they do this and that ect.2.Spesiphic colours for spesiphic content types.as i said before, make two

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Re: frontend web development Just to reiterate - yes, there is nothing stopping you from using CSS yourself, but there exist no tools to tell you whether or not it is "appealing," seeing as it's a subjective thing that companies have dedicated teams for. You are not going

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Re: frontend web development all of us have no problem with html side of things, just the css part is the problem since it directly deals with appearance. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/514962/#p514962 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

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Re: frontend web development I did some front-end work at one of my previous internships. All I did was look up Bootstrap tags and get a general sense of what they do. I incorporated what I thought was asked of me, handed it off to another dev, and they either confirmed

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Re: frontend web development @8,I don't mean accessibility.from a totally blind perspective and when for totally blind visitors, I have no problem of setting colors (background color black foreground color blue for example) and it doesn't make any sense for them.but when someone sighted

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Re: frontend web development @11It depends. In some respects thats an argument of one learning style over another, since some benefit more from theory than others do. For many visual artists they can learn innately because visual material isn't an abstract concept, though some benefit more

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Re: frontend web development @11It depends. In some respects thats an argument of one learning style over another, since some benefit more from theory than others do. For many visual artists they can learn innately because visual material isn't an abstract concept, though some benefit more

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Re: frontend web development @11Theoretical resources are more of a starting point, practical experience is the only useful metric long term. Artists typically use theory to refine existing techniques, which they can readily gain through practice. But for them, working with visual material

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Re: frontend web development @9Most painters don't go talk about color theory. Most musicians don't go talk about music theory. Most frontend developers don't go talk about frontend development theory either.  For things which are almost entirely human-centric, the theoretical resources

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Re: frontend web development @9 I just love how you always have wwhat's needed. You're quite resourceful. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/514560/#p514560 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

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Re: frontend web development Thats a bit of a misconception, since Art Theory draws from a set of well traveled techniques, same with Color Theory. The main problem is available tools and approach, which is very different from a non-visual perspective than that of a visual one

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Re: frontend web development Thats a bit of a misconception, since Art Theory draws from a set of well traveled techniques, same with Color Theory. The main problem is available tools and approach, which is very different from a non-visual perspective than that of a visual one

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Re: frontend web development Thats a bit of a misconception, since Art Theory draws from a set of well traveled techniques, same with Color Theory. The main problem is available tools and approach, which is very different from a non-visual perspective than that of a visual one

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Re: frontend web development If the question is actually just how do sighted people do this...I know a sighted frontend developer as a somewhat close friend, and work with some others.  There are guidelines you can pull from, i.e. Apple's human interface guidelines, and for accessibility

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Re: frontend web development @6 it doesn't work always.consider that someone puts a text in orange in a black screen.if you saw it before (people who had vision before can understand what I'm saying).or a text in cyan in a green screen (consider that someone who is color blinded wants

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Re: frontend web development Here's a tip ty. Dark colours on light background. Light colours on dark backgrounds. If you want I can help you out with colours and what looks good and what looks bad. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/514518/#p514518 -- Audiogames-reflector

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Re: frontend web development I agree with @4 so I asked this.although bootstrap can help you with this, but you need sighted assistance (I'm saying this because I had more vision than now in passed).@2 if you research on which color is good for what you won't make it at all. because you

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Re: frontend web development You can't be a frontend developer professionally.  It doesn't matter how much CSS you know. No one is going to give you a full-time sighted assistant to help check your styling to make sure it's accurate and working on all the major browsers.  You either have

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Re: frontend web development I actually have a similar question. I know CSS, but I just don't know what colors look good on what. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/514331/#p514331 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

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Re: frontend web development I'll reserch for cullers then i'll decideI won't make my website dark URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/514302/#p514302 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

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frontend web development hi,suppose you want to develop a website for yourself, how you will make it look good (as we're have sight issues)?how do you style it or make it good for someone who is not visually impaired?or lets dive more deeper into it, suppose you want to be hired