Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people
Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Fair enough.To late now though, I'll just have to pray these do the trick URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597669/#p597669 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people That, may or may not actually work. If you're wanting to play games, you'll probably want stereo. You probably would have been better off getting some over the ear headphones, or if you have the money to spare, echo buds, since they come at around £130 now, and pretty much do exactly what you want. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597660/#p597660 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Regarding different types of headphones, take a look for example at this article:https://headphonesaddict.com/types-of-headphones/ URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597657/#p597657 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people @49 I was thinking of stratogising.That's if what I say works, but I was going to just have 1 earbud in because they're wireless, and then I have an ear free for everything else.A win win situation if it pays off URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597645/#p597645 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people I mentioned bone conducting headphones a while back in this thread. Essentially, these are headphones that rest around your cheekbone area, as supposed to over your ears, but you can still here them.Btw, did you do any research on those earbuds you ordered? Generally speaking, earbuds are noise reducing by design. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597641/#p597641 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people I've just ordered some JLab JBuds Air Play True Wireless Mobile Gaming Earbuds to experiment with.@47 I guess you mean in ear when you refer to bone earphones?Can't say I've heard that phrase. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597640/#p597640 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Their are other types of head phones you can get like on ear and or bone types. I can hear when the door opens and some other noices when I am wearing my head phones URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597638/#p597638 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people @45 I'm not looking for any arguments.I've admitted I was mistaken based on my misinterpretations, and I've apologised for conveying immature messages etc, but there's nothing more I can do.However that doesn't mean I've directly disagreed with anyone here.Strongly opinionated though I might be, there's nothing wrong with disagreeing with other peoples view regardless whether the majority agree with me or not.Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I haven't stated anything that suggests I've not listened or taken your views/advice into account as I'm trying to see things from a mutual perspective based on my own razed opinions.I've already said that yesterday wasn't a good day for me, and I've also said that I'm not a person to directly say someone is wrong based on what I think is right.I'm also undergoing a very challenging and complex decision in my life right now, so I have a lot to deal with on my mind and nobody to talk to about it, thus I may get stressed easily which I can't help, so sorry again if I've offended anyone.With that out of the way, you queried about my reasons for not wanting to wear headphones.Firstly, I get saw ears after wearing them for 10 minutes or more, especially if I'm wearing them for long sessions.I think I've mentioned this before, but another thing is that I feel singled out when I wear them due to the fact that they go over my ears and drowns the rest of the environment out as a result. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597636/#p597636 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people
2020-12-11
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Yes but being around people and playing your games isn't socializing. I don't even know how you think that's the case, because it's just not. Some of the loneliest of people are surrounded by others. If that's you, I'm sorry to hear it and I hope you find people that can appreciate you for who you are. But that doesn't mean you get to come into a common space with noise that they can't relate to or vibe with. It's no different than playing dial-up modem noise to them. They can't hear what's going on properly, especially with the screen reader. To them, it's just a jumbled mess, and it's no wonder they don't want that going on.There's no way around the fact that you're wrong about this. You go into a common space, you use headphones, simple as that. If you don't want to, that's your choice, but again, it's discourteous and immature, and you won't find much sympathy here.It seems to me that you call it throwing flames on the fire or whatever you want to say, simply because the majority of us disagree with you. Again, a sign of immaturity. You can't or won't see our points of view, so you summarily dismiss us. You haven't even given a valid reason why you don't want to wear headphones, just that you don't want to. Which, isn't required, but if you're looking for agreement or sympathy, it would help. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597616/#p597616 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people going to have to agree with @37 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597607/#p597607 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people OK everyone, lets just get things straitened out right again.There's no need to throw fuel on a fire that doesn't need to exist in the first place.That being said, I think all of us (me included) have just had a big misunderstanding.Take posts 34 and 38 for example, in my mind they conveyed 2 completely different messages, the first of which I interpreted to be quite aggressive and personal.However post 38 made it very clear that you didn't mean such things, so I therefore apologise for my own remarks as I was under the impression you were trying to be said things mentioned above.I have took time to reading over everyone's posts, and I admit that some of you ay have been trying to suggest helpful things, but certain messages have just been worded differently to the point where I misinterpreted them to convey something completely different, hence why it may seem I get very defensive.It's not a case of me being a selfish jerk or something similar, no matter how much I might have made myself look like that, I want people to know I'm certainly not like that, so I apologise again for said things.I also want to point out that I haven't had the best of social experiences in my life to put it in simple terms, and I'm probably not the only 1. As a result, when reading messages that suggest I should just take things to a different room on my own, it upsets me because I really don't want to be a loner, and I've had enough experiences of being alone when I was younger, hence why I made the mistake of thinking everyone was missing the point.Lastly, I've said it in earlier posts and I will say it again, I mean no hard feelings towards anyone. Certain earlier posts may have really flared me up, but it's all down to misinterpretation.I may have been feeling angry at the time of writing the post, but I'm not now and I'm just trying to embrace my mistakes and make it up with everyone.I hope I've explained myself and we can all just move on now URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597543/#p597543 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Oh wow, somebody else who plays games on Speakers haha. Ok, AHC isn't that hard, but I completed the entire AAC on speakers. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597490/#p597490 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Oh, also I've been playing audiogames like Manamon and AHC without headphones for like, 3 years at this point. My skills have fallen over the months, but its not that big a problem here.I really didn't read past post 26, but posts 32 onwards reminded me of a conversation I had with my mother a few weeks ago. We were talking about a girl we know who uses braille in school. This was sparked by a general debate about the imortance of braille. Eitherwways, so mum and I were talking and I said nah, I can't imagine ever using braille in school, simply because of the noise. Then she replies with heh. After a while the students will become acustum to it and it will be like nothing for them. Long story short, I strongly disagreed with that statment, because ever since, I never liked causing too much noise to distract people. I don't know why, its probably caused due to my intense distain for loudness when I was younger, but I just never liked making noise in school, or around other people, especially for my benefit. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597479/#p597479 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people They could easily mute the TV or whatever That statement above just highlights your entitledness and selfishness. I'd like you to go play Aprone's games wwithout a screen reader, and the graphics on. Because its about the same, right? Not everyone, can just look at someone's lips and say blah blah blah is going on, and blah blah blah, there's also the issue of the value of the script being taken away. Not feeling the emotions, the connections with the statements made by the characters etc. There's also sound. Imagine looking at the Hanna Barbara shows without the sounds, or Fifty Shades of Grey without the music. Same deal with disney, or all the Indian Soaps. For another perspective, go play all the chinese/japanese games, without translation. Tell me how emerssive and fun it would be not knowing what the fuck is going on with the script. And yes, I have sighted family, and the same thing is true with them. Everyone has a level of respect for each other, and its common courtesy to keep the TV, Phones, Tablets, and Laptops low. This isn't at all unique, or your family singling you out. Its them just asking you to show some common decency. Also, uh, you're about 25 times more likely to be labelled a social outcast being on your computer blairing out a bunch of random sounds among people than just being in your room occasionally coming out socialising with your family. That's what I do. I'm inside for most of the day because there are certain relatives I don't like dealing with, plus I just like reading up on stuff, then I come out into the evening time chatting with My mum and little brother. Its society now. Is it a good thing kids are couped in rooms all day? Not really, but is bringing your stuff out with everyone while you being a jerk about lowering the stuff any better? Nope not really. Also, from the messages you've described, it sounds like your family are, relatively chill, just aside from the minor annoyance. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597476/#p597476 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Let alone immature, it's disrespectful and a good way to get people to not like you if you get so angry over such little requests. Also, just thought of this, why does it matter that you're born blind? Does that make you more knowing of the problem than legally blind people? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597471/#p597471 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people
2020-12-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people @36 You missed the point entirely. I was trying to say that the overwhelming majority of people see that putting headphones on when you're going to be making noise in a common space with your individual device isn't an unreasonable thing to ask. So when you say fuck it, I will still do whatever I want, then we're just going around in circles. Camlorn's right, it's immature as hell. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597466/#p597466 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people @36So I have been trying really hard to not point out that you're acting incredibly childish, but:With that said, I class myself as being a social person who has their own likes, dislikes and preferences that make up my personality, so like me or hate me, but if I want to sit with people whilst on my game, and talk at the same time, then I'll do it because that's who I am.Fine, sure. This is a reasonable preference. But obviously the people you're sitting and talking with don't want you to sit and talk with them while also playing noisy games without headphones, and it's entirely reasonable for them to not want that. Being told no isn't judgement. Forcing them to deal with it isn't fair. Wanting to go against the societal norm that says that sitting next to people who are trying to do something with something that's super distracting because it's your idea of social is fine, but you don't get the right to wine about it when the vast majority of humanity says "sorry, but this is distracting and you need to take it somewhere else" when the other party can't move their activity instead.If you need to be a part of something while playing a game, find a teamtalk server for that outlet, or find a group of friends or something who can deal with you chatting with them while playing a shooter or whatever other thing they can't participate in. Alternatively, find some hobbies that sighted people can share, or that are quiet and unobtrusive. Cooking and many forms of art are good options.But in any case, grow up. "I'm going to do this thing because it's who I am no matter what the other person wants" is entitled and immature as hell. What the other person wants matters. This attitude is called forcing yourself onto people, and is a very fast way to lose friends. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597461/#p597461 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people @34 that's not true at all.I disagreed with post 8 because he was being extremely dickish and I wasn't about to let him say untrue things and walk all over me like a doormat when he doesn't even know me.Apart from that though, I've not tried to prove anyone wrong, neither have I directly said so correct me if I'm wrong, but if I've conveyed anything to say otherwise then I apologise in advance because that wasn't my intention.@35 As you've previously mentioned, we don't know each other, so know hard feelings. That being said, feel free to disagree, but I get the impression that you're trying to say that being alone is Better for everyone.Obviously there's nothing wrong with that opinion, but as I've said it's all down to preference.If a load of people spent most of their lives in their room talking to nobody and became scientists etc, then good for them.But just because they spent their lives as virtual robots with nothing but work on their mind doesn't mean that the people who don't take that path should be judged differently as we're all humans at the end of the day.With that said, I class myself as being a social person who has their own likes, dislikes and preferences that make up my personality, so like me or hate me, but if I want to sit with people whilst on my game, and talk at the same time, then I'll do it because that's who I am.Whether people choose to agree or disagree with my preferences is not up to me, but I'm not the type of person to go to the extreme of saying they're wrong based on what I think is right.That being so, I've said what I've had to say, I've voiced my preferences and opinions and have had feedback off others.For those making bold statements suggesting that I'm classed as being socially discourteous or not interested in what others have to say, then I'm sorry to say otherwise, but unfortunately you're getting the wrong end of the stick.I'm not going to start raging or crying just because more people may not have the same opinion as me, and I'm definitely not climbing out of my skin as I know my level of social capacity, and that's not going to change any time soon. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597448/#p597448 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people @TheBlindSaiyanRemember, you don't have to climb out of your skin just to appear more social than you really might be. It's very important to divide both activities you do into those done by yourself and those shared with/between others. This way you'll end up having more productive results in no matter what you do and also have more energy to deal with other people and they wouldn't annoy you that much.Feel free to prove me wrong, but it seems you have been told way too many times that doing stuff by yourself and prefering to be alone is bad, which of course it is not. It's again those stupid norms that make people think that way, but in fact we all know that introverts and loners are often the greatest inventors, artists, scientists and many other things in life. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597294/#p597294 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people
2020-12-10
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people @32 I think this topic has reached its natural conclusion. You don't want to hear what we have to say. Which, by the way is fine. But we are not wrong either. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597288/#p597288 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Antisocial (adjective) 1. contrary to the laws and customs of society; devoid of or antagonistic to sociable instincts or practices.adjective: asocialavoiding social interaction; inconsiderate of or hostile to others.I don't think either of those apply to you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597269/#p597269 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people @30 I am not saying playing a game is any more sociable than watching TV, or any other activity for that matter.I'm beginning to think that maybe my understanding of what being social is may be different to others.A few people have said just go in another room, but couldn't that be classed as also being anti-social?Just because I'm playing on something doesn't mean I can't talk, or that I'm rid of the ability to acknowledge someone should they talk to me whilst I'm playing.That being said, I haven't any purpose to be loud or to ignore anyone, hence why I am in the same room as others in the first place, but I'm just doing what I enjoy.Hope I've made myself clear URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597250/#p597250 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people I was wondering this as well. With the shit stereo spread on most laptops how can you not wear headphones? I can only go without if I'm playing the game with my face instead of my hands. Not productive. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597240/#p597240 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Yet another one in the common courtesy crowd; oh no!Playing your audio game alone is not socializing anyhow, regardless of where you do it. It would count as socializing if others were paying attention to what you were doing -- if you were showing the game to them, for example -- but if they're just doing their own thing, then you might as well be in your room. It's like that cold peace between married people that talk while the other is around, sure, but don't talk *to each other*.The fact that it doesn't bother you does not mean that it shouldn't bother them. It often feels like our opinion is the right one, the majority, but actually, oftentimes it isn't. As you can see by now, this is the case in this situation. Most of us find people who are more loud than they need to be annoying, and so seek to not become such people ourselves. This is no double standard towards sighted people; if I had a blind roommate, as I likely will at some point, I would also put headphones on while in the same room as them, and be thankful if they do likewise.You have a *lot* of options when it comes to headphones and earbuds. From the fancy noise canceling ones to the light ones that bring good quality while also allowing you to hear the world around you quite well. Some are uncomfortable, but most, especially if you are willing to pay a reasonable price, are so pleasant you'll forget you're wearing them.And besides, they're just so, so much better for gaming. The sound is cleaner, you can hear more details, you can react faster because you have a better idea of where stuff is to you directionally, etc. And this is even more true for music; it just sounds so much better with good headphones. So ... what do you have against them, exactly? Don't you think you are being needlessly stubborn and refusing something that would actually help you out?Because noise while working in the kitchen is unavoidable. TVs, as others have mentioned, are meant to be watched by multiple people, and often don't even have headphone jacks (and when they do, that still makes things awkward, because of how short cables tend to be). You meanwhile are playing these games for yourself, and your only argument for not wearing headphones is "I don't wanna!" How about you just refuse to be constantly downstairs with them, then? You are old enough to refuse, not that kids don't have a right to private time. Hell, I stay in my room when I want to do stuff on my own anyway, even though I always wear headphones. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597190/#p597190 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people @28 I have noticed that sometimes, but haven't really given it to much thought as I was under the impression it was more of a general problem if you're concentrating on something and you don't take anything else in naturally.You have a point though . URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597161/#p597161 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people @TheBlindSaiyanAs I don't know you, thus have obviously nothing against anything you say, but let's pause for a minute:as many people with differing amount/strength of autistic traits as I know "including myself", are usually not capable of focusing on multiple sources of information at once. So for example I always had to silence my screen reader and stop anything I was doing whenever my mom decided to come to my room, as I simply could not listen to and comprehend both her and my computer at the same time having to ask her to repeat herself.So may-be that's what gets you annoied in the first place - simply trying to step over your capacities, which sometimes can indeed yield some good results, but most of the time just generates anger and feeling of failure.Another important thing is: don't let others command you out of your room so easyly. Say something like: let me just finish my game and I'll join you afterwards.One more point before I finish this post is more of a general one.Interestingly enough most of the time it's our parents/relatives/others we live with, who actually understand us the least. It's something, that can change over the years, but as well can stay stuck for the entire time lived together. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597159/#p597159 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people @19 I think it's really down to opinion when it comes to who can enjoy TV. One of the things that is unpredictable is what is and isn't audio described, don't get me started on catch-up TV! lol.For talk shows and similar stuff it isn't needed, but if there's a film on with a lot of on screen events and it's not audio described, then it's not fair on both sides for someone who can't see what's happening to be constantly asking what's going on, as for them the noise coming from the TV may be just as useless as a sighted person listening to an audio game.@26 Yeah the same applies to me, but as I have said I don't have a problem with their noise. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597155/#p597155 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people
2020-12-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TheTrueSwampGamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people TheBlindSaiyan wrote:@4 I know what you mean.I generally have my laptop and phone brightness set to 0, as it benefits both in privacy and battery usage.@5 I would agree with you, but then there's the argument that why does it have to be me?I have no problem with what they are doing, I could easily say their TV is to loud and that I can't hear my stuff, but I don't because there isn't any need.It's got nothing to do with common courtesy when sharing a space in my opinion, I just feel a bit singled out in these circumstances because I need to hear sound more than they do. They could easily mute the TV or whatever they're using and just look at it, you can't do that when you're blind, so all I'm saying is that I wish they had a little more respect.I'm me, I've got audio playing on my laptop because I can't use it otherwise, and I don't have it blaring to the point where it drowns all other noise out, so I don't see what the problem is, I'm sure the same applies to others as well...@6 You make a fair point, however it doesn't matter whether I'm playing an audio game or a mainstream game, I just don't really want to wear headphones; simple as that.I don't want to look like an anti-social recluse in my room all the time, hence why I like to game and talk with people around me.I just want people to respect that rather than making a fuss because of a little more background noise than they're used to.From my own experiences people tend to put there TV up to louder volumes in smaller areas then I have my laptop at while I'm gaming, and yet I can hear the tv in the other room, through a hallway, and in my room. I've gotten used to it though. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597126/#p597126 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people
Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people @NocturnusMaybe try some open back cans or shallow earbuds? It won't seal in the sound as well, but it's still better than nothing while allowing you to keep an ear on things.Or you can always do the one ear thing if you don't need stereo. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597065/#p597065 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people I am agoing to have to agree with most ppl. I use head phones when I am not using hearing aids. If I were to use my laptop I make sure that my family know that I am going to be hanging around the space of the house i am going to be using my laptop: I only use speech on my laptop around others the same can be said for my phone. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597064/#p597064 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people I'm agreeing with the common courtesy thing. I have the opposite problem of loud TVs and people liking to watch movies at insanely stupid hours and not using headphones. Then puting headphones in a radio. Go figure...I'm with the common courtesy crowd really URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597056/#p597056 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Hi,@Nocturnus, not sure if this would help with the issue you mentioned, but if you have an iPhone I believe there is a feature called ‘Live Listen’, which basically turns your iPhone into a mic so you can hear everything going on around you even with earphones in. I haven’t used it myself, so not sure if it would help, but I’ve heard of people hard of hearing who normally can’t hear the TV from back on the sofa, so they turn on live listen, place their phone near the TV, then pop in their Air pods and can then sit back on their Sofa and hear the TV through their Air pods. I’m not sure if the feature only works with Apple Air pods and an iPhone, or whether you can use regular earphones too. Like I said I haven’t tried it myself, so no idea if it would work, but I thought I’d mention it in case you had an iPhone and could try it out, maybe if it works it might allow you to both listen to your phone via earbuds but also still hear what is going on around you at the same time too.Paul URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597053/#p597053 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Oof... yeah.Be aware of the noise that your laptop is pumping out. Given that audiogames trend towards all the noise all the time I can only imagine the racket you're generating after adding in screen reader speech, UI sounds if you use them and the repeated mashing of keyboard keys. I always carry headphones with me for this reason, because I'd feel terrible if I were that obnoxious asshole that's generating a hellish cacophony of unintelligible noise while expecting people to carry on conversations around me. It may not be the volume of aforementioned noise also, but the tonality of the noise too. You know that one pain in the ass that blasts music from his or her phone in public? You're being that person. Only worse. Laptop speakers are shitty, tinny and extremely fatiguing to listen to, just like Phone music guy but louder. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597044/#p597044 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Oof... yeah.Be aware of the noise that your laptop is pumping out. Given that audiogames trend towards all the noise all the time I can only imagine the racket you're generating after adding in screen reader speech, UI sounds if you use them and the repeated mashing of keyboard keys. I always carry headphones with me for this reason, because I'd feel terrible if I were that obnoxious asshole that's generating a hellish cacophony of unintelligible noise while expecting people to carry on conversations around me. It may not be the volume of aforementioned noise also, but the tonality of the noise too. You know that one pain in the ass that blasts music from his or her phone in public? You're that person. Only worse. Laptop speakers are shitty, tinny and extremely fatiguing to listen to, just like Phone music guy but louder. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597044/#p597044 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people So, two things, from someone who's blind and practically deaf.1. You will never hear me say I hate social interaction... I don't! Quite the opposite is true. That being said?2. Sighted people particularly of my and future generations, and some who are older who try to act like they're part of my and future generations, are hard to interact with when you're me. ON the one hand, in places and situations where it's now socially acceptible to carry around and use a smartphone all the time which is more or less everywhere, I'm the outcast, because I either have to turn my phone up loud enough for me to hear it, which is loud enough for anyone within 10 feet of me to hear it to some degree, or wear head/earphones. The second is the common courtesy, but then, guess what? I shut everyone out, which is socially unacceptable. The alternative is to sit around and twiddle your thumbs and look socially awkward while everyone goes about poking at their screen, sharing posts on social media and smiling like idiots at things on the other end of the line they may or may not choose to share with you. Lose lose. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597041/#p597041 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Hi,I think something to remember is that a TV is a communal item, its designed for multiple people to enjoy, whether your blind or not you can still enjoy TV. Most audio games on the other hand are more designed for personal use, people sitting round the rest of the room aren’t likely to get any enjoyment out of an audio game they are not playing, it’s probably more of a distraction to them, to those not playing the game it probably just sounds like a ton of noises thrown together, and Jaws/NVDA speaking at a million miles an hour often can’t even be understood by most people not used to listening to such fast synth voices. My little boy is fully sighted, he’s 14 so at an age where he is pretty much glued to his phone , if he came into the living room and I was there watching TV and he wanted to watch something like YouTube on his phone he’d either mute the phone or stick earbuds in, since again like audio games phones are more predominantly meant for personal use,, rather than for everyone in a room to share/enjoy. Obviously I know multiple people can watch something together on a phone, often my boy and I will watch on his phone whichever YouTube channel he’s into at the time, but the point I was making is that phones, tablets, laptops etc are more designed for personal use, which is why just out of curtesy he would mute his phone or where one or both earbuds if he came into a room where I was watching TV. On the flip side, if I came into the living room and he was watching something and I wanted to do something on my phone or laptop I’d plug an earbud in so the sound of Jaws/voice over isn’t distracting him, plus with only one earbud in I can still talk to him and hear everything else going on in the room, but without him having to listen to my constant screen reader jabbering on, and on and on Paul URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597040/#p597040 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people @post 1, There is nothing wrong with people being bothered by the noises your computer makes. This doesn't have anything to do with blindness. What if you were listening to music? Wouldn't that mean noise? What if your brother or sister, or a friend of yours turns up the volume on his/her phone? Wouldn't that again mean noise and nuisance to your parents? There is nothing wrong with wearing headphones/earphones.Personally, since I also like to be on point with what is being talked about and what is happening around while I'm doing my stuff on my laptop, I like to wear a pair of earphones, typically those that come with Apple devices. They don't block your ears, are cristal-clear, and you can keep them down, if you're concerned that your hearing will be affected.Really, if you want to be sociable, you first have to be considerate. It doesn't matter if you're listening to music, playing games, talking, drinking, and what not. The circumstances are not exact. You have to understand that it may not be always the case that others like what you like, or agree with what you do. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597026/#p597026 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people @post 1, There is nothing wrong with people being bother by the noises your computer makes. This doesn't have anything to do with blindness. What if you were listening to music? Wouldn't that mean noise? What if your brother or sister, or a friend of yours turns up the volume on his/her phone? Wouldn't that again mean noise and nuisance to your parents? There is nothing wrong with wearing headphones/earphones.Personally, since I also like to be on point with what is being talked about and what is happening around while I'm doing my stuff on my laptop, I like to wear a pair of earphones, typically those that come with Apple devices. They don't block your ears, are cristal-clear, and you can keep them down, if you're concerned that your hearing will be affected.Really, if you want to be sociable, you first have to be considerate. It doesn't matter if you're listening to music, playing games, talking, drinking, and what not. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597026/#p597026 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people To add to that, you're 20 / 21, correct? If you don't want to go down stairs, no one can force you to.You'll probably want to look into moving out anyway, sad though it may be, your grandparents won't live forever. What will you do when they're no longer around? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597021/#p597021 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people
2020-12-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : GrannyCheeseWheel via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Just wear headphones, if you're in a common space, it's not too much to ask. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597020/#p597020 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Dude, just wear headphones. It sounds better anyway and having two different media sources going at the same time, or trying to talk over repetitive noises while concentrating on the conversation is difficult.I really think you are reading too far into this. And really, it isn't your home anyway. If this is the biggest annoyance you've gotta deal with on a daily basis, you should consider your self lucky indeed. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597019/#p597019 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Well, totally with Camlorn here. Loud noises is not a blind's man problem here, its all around the place, just go and ask some sighted handheld player like 3DS, Switch etc, everyone will ask them to lower the volume/mute the device as soon as they have it running all the time ever so quietly. And nope, there are enough TV adversaries etc which you cannot watch just by "watching" them, like news etc, you'll often need to listen to whwat the people say instead of just watching them talk.Other than that, its just a matter of preference here. You don't want to wear headphones? Fine, but don't feel offended if people tell you to because you're too loud. But I feel like i'm just repeating other people's points here. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597015/#p597015 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people @10 It's not the people that annoy me as such, I don't think like that.It's more the subject of what people can and can't tolerate I.E. I don't mind anything they do, but they seem to have a problem with what I do.I'm not trying to make a big deal out of things, as I've said before it knocks my confidence, and naturally I just wanted to talk to others about it because I was feeling low, no hard feelings toords anyone.Yes I do have my own room, but I'm always getting told to come downstairs so I'm not in my room all the time, so I just try meeting half way, and I do that by bringing something to play on with me.Everyone has something they do or like, mine is having a portable game with me in some form or another, because that's just part of who I am and it makes me feel better to have said things with me to destress with etc. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597013/#p597013 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people @8 Care to elaborate on what I supposedly want validating?You seem to like putting words in people's mouths, so what is this rule you think I want?I'm not being funny or anything, but you need to get a grip and practice before you preach.Yes, I'm blind, yes, I obviously need audio, and no I don't want to wear headphones because that's my preference... is there anything wrong with that?But you must have a seriously low opinion of me to even think that I'd say I'm different to anyone else to the point where I need special rules.Either way, I really don't think to deeply whether people want to sympathise or disagree with me.I just created the post because I wanted to get some stress off my chest, and just as another thing to talk about.Just as an afterthought, you should go tell the discord community to put there laptops away if they want to be, as you say, "perceived as being slightly social at all". URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597010/#p597010 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Yeah, wearing headphones is just common courtesy, sighted or not. My sighted girlfriend and I are still in the point where she's getting to know a blind person stage, and one of the things she asked is if I wore headphones on the computer. She was happy when I told her that yes, I did, because the constant noise from the computer would drive her crazy. You just have to be mindful of the people around you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597009/#p597009 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Another thing you might want to consider is, if these people annoy you so much, do you actually want to be interacting with them? I assume you have a room or some other private space you can retreat to, use it. And seriously, never mind what people think about it, they'll judge you regardless.I remember when I was a lot younger, my parents actually got pretty worried because of how little time I spent with other people after I started secondary school. It took a while, but eventually they realized that no, I'm fine, I just like to be by myself a lot of the time, and yes, I'm still very much capable of interacting with humans and have a desire to do so, and that won't be changing any time soon. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597008/#p597008 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people With Canlorn here. I kind of feel like you want it both ways, and that's not going to happen.When my family got a computer later in my high-school years, we put Jaws on it so I could use it. For just running around doing my usual stuff, I did not use headphones and wasn't asked to. I didn't have Jaws blasting, so it didn't matter. My brother would play games and not use headphones; same deal.there were two reasons why I used headphones when I was gaming. First, because sometimes I like to game with the volume up a bit for immersion's sake. Second, because in a lot of audio games, you really need to pay attention to sound.Now, if I was gaming on the N64, PS2 or my GBA, whether or not I used headphones usually depended on whether the device was portable. I would often sit in the family room with the GBA in my lap and headphones on my head. They're watching TV, I'm gaming. Nobody minds. If my brother wanted to do the same thing, he'd just turn the volume down since he didn't need the sound like I did. With the console stuff, I just wouldn't play at loud volumes, and nobody cared.Maybe I got lucky though. Maybe most families aren't like this? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/597003/#p597003 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Wearing headphones isn't looking like an anti-social recluse these days, you know. Being on the laptop in the first place is way more antisocial than whether or not you're wearing headphones with it and, if you want to be perceived as even slightly social at all, you need to start by putting it away entirely.Also, they've got multiple people watching TV and plugging headphones into a tv is actually quite difficult, plus only one of these things is portable.it's hard for me to have sympathy here. I feel like you want validation, but seriously, "I'm blind therefore I need audio, and also I don't want to wear headphones, and being blind makes me different from a sighted person and therefore I should have a different rule" is not a good way to approach the world. Your options here are move out if you're an adult, or realize that being a kid kind of sucks if you're a kid, but I doubt you're going to get a bunch of "yeah that sucks" validation if that's what you wanted. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596997/#p596997 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people @4 I know what you mean.I generally have my laptop and phone brightness set to 0, as it benefits both in privacy and battery usage.@5 I would agree with you, but then there's the argument that why does it have to be me?I have no problem with what they are doing, I could easily say their TV is to loud and that I can't hear my stuff, but I don't because there isn't any need.It's got nothing to do with common courtesy when sharing a space in my opinion, I just feel a bit singled out in these circumstances because I need to hear sound more than they do. They could easily mute the TV or whatever they're using and just look at it, you can't do that when you're blind, so all I'm saying is that I wish they had a little more respect.I'm me, I've got audio playing on my laptop because I can't use it otherwise, and I don't have it blaring to the point where it drowns all other noise out, so I don't see what the problem is, I'm sure the same applies to others as well...@6 You make a fair point, however it doesn't matter whether I'm playing an audio game or a mainstream game, I just don't really want to wear headphones; simple as that.I don't want to look like an anti-social recluse in my room all the time, hence why I like to game and talk with people around me.I just want people to respect that rather than making a fuss because of a little more background noise than they're used to. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596994/#p596994 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Yeah, and besides, if you're playing an audiogame, you really *should* be wearing headphones anyway. Get some bone conducting ones, or just any that'll let in a decent amount of sound from the outside if you want to be able to talk at the same time. I really should do this myself actually, I tend to just use passthrough on my echo buds, though obviously this only works when audio latency from the PC won't be too problematic.What you'll find pretty much anywhere, is that all of this is actually pretty normal, and that people generally aren't out to get you. I understand you have issues interpreting social queues, I do too, for what that's worth, but getting defencive will only cause the situation to escalate much further than it needs to. Like if people point out that there's nothing on you're screen and you're quite obviously hammering away on the keyboard, usually they're just curious. Not everyone knows about us. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596943/#p596943 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Being asked to wear headphones isn't anything to do with being blind, it's called common courtesy when sharing a space. They could be more sensitive about the fact that it's an audiogame, but being asked to wear headphones is perfectly normal behavior for anyone. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596937/#p596937 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Btw, I don't have a laptop, but for about 10 years my desktop has had no screen connected to it, so it's nobody elses business, wtf I'm doing on my computer and it feels good that way. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596934/#p596934 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people
2020-12-09
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : KenshiraTheTrinity via Audiogames-reflector
Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people I just go off into another room. Toaddresd the bit avout there being nothing on the screen, thats partially why I'm partial towards mainstream games, so people can see and participate. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596928/#p596928 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people Oh no, it's not at all a pointless topic.Although I don't play any games what so ever, I more than well know, how nasty it is to live with other people in terms of sharing noises. And when they dont, and most of the time they don't freakin' understand the problem.As I also have autistic features, thus lower tolerance for louder noises, but it gets even lower during any kind of deeper/bigger stress. Once I even told my parents to stop making noise, while they were just talking.Now it's almost a year since I live separate from my parents and it has been a good experience regarding noise, but still I have problems with other sounds around the house, that are outside my flat and thus not under my control URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596918/#p596918 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people
A born blindman's rant on gaming in front of sighted people If the subject didn't tell you of my bad mood at the time of writing this, then you will certainly know at the end of this post :d.I've been living my grandparents for the 20 years I've been on this earth, and they still keep moaning and commenting at the slightest things.What things you may ask?Well, have you ever been in a situation where you're playing an audio game happily minding your own business, and people come up to you and say: Ehh, do you know there's nothing on your screen?Why is your computer making those noises?Turn that down or put headphones on please!That last one is my worst.Take today for example, people were sorting things out in the kitchen making lots of noise moving things around.Naturally it got to the point where I couldn't hear my laptop, as I was with them at the time, and I like to be sociable whilst I game.And no, gaming doesn't make you as anti-social as older generation people make it out to be But getting to the point, I turned my laptop up to an audible level, around 50% volume give or take.30 seconds later I had my first negative comment: Isn't that rather loud and noisy?My reply was that I couldn't hear my laptop because you are doing your things and I am doing mine, that I didn't plan on keeping at said noise level forever, and that I need to hear because I can't see, obviously!It's not the last time this has happened, and it probably won't be.I know it's just one of the things in life that I'll have to get on with, but it's the affect on my confidence that annoys me.There's even been times where I higher up my laptop or device when there's an advert break on the TV, and I get told to wear headphones or turn it off, and when I argue my case that I don't want to wear them and I'm just highering it up for a bit, they just start getting all defensive although I don't mean to cause any arguments.I just wish people had the decency to take my blindness into account. I also have autistic features, so I'm not a big fan of loud noises.If anybody wishes to contribute their thoughts to this almost pointless topic, please feel free Apologies for the length of this ridiculously long post, and an early merry Christmas to everyone! ! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/596910/#p596910 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
