Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
2020-09-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Blue-Eyed Demon via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @Zersiax: I love everything you have said here. It is very clear that you actually know what is going on and actually have some common sense. I don't mean you know what's going on in the total sense, but rather, you have a general idea on the doubt behind everything and the uncertainty. I completely agree with you that China gets vilified when it comes to this stuff and that just has boiled over into this whole conspiracy that no one knows the answer to. And yeah, if you go in and actually read through the privacy agreement, you will be able to see even on the surface of it all, how much gets sent back and forth, from any company, not just the Chinese ones. But like you just previously stated, we are completely ok with trusting the company and the program if it comes from somewhere like the U.S. or say somewhere like England, because we have been trained to trust those nations and those affiliates. However, I am here to say that no matter where the company is from, we are not safe when it comes to our information. When we use an app like paypal or amazon, we give our payment information. In a lot of cases for amazon we link our credit card number and in paypal's case, it is our entire bank account a lot of the time. Same with the cash app, apple pay, and on and on and on. We link such vital information. You realize that to sign up for a paypal cash account or an amazon cash account, they ask for your social security number? Does no one else find that just a little unsettling? We are putting all of our information out there for anyone to steal if they get the idea to do so. And it's not just the companies themselves we should be worried about. We are living in an age where cyber attacks are so beyond common, and hell a few years back, soni had their data and servers breached and it turned out their password was literally password. Technology, firewalls, online security, it is so far from perfect, especially in today's world. We are to the point where scientists are actually working on creating a computer that use quantum physics to work. If you don't know how that works then read this article. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/un … m-passwordMy point here is that they are going to these lengths because they absolutely have to if they want any cahnce at actually keeping our data safe, and we are putting it right into their hands. It's not just a U.S. versus China situation. It's not just a good versus bad situation. We are living it no matter what country the app or program is from. As for this screen reader, it could be dangerous, it could be perfectly safe. At the end of the day, I have no clue and neither do any of you. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/572505/#p572505 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @81. and the problem is that commentary screenreader doesn't have a privacy policy iirc. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/572393/#p572393 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @80 I have already given my response to this question.There could be a lot of reasons why they are not putting up a download page. In fact ...let me go ask URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/572361/#p572361 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Response to what was expressed in 78, not necessarily just to it's poster Oh absolutely. A lot of apps from China do send data home to their servers, and as you state yourself, so do apps from pretty much everywhere else in the world. China is just morevillified for it, mostly just because they're China, they are not the glorious U S of A that will never allow your data to fall into nefarious hands. Right? I mean ...right? ...uhm right?Everytime you send a web request to a website, every time an app you use calls an API, everytime you use a smart speaker, data is sent to whatever server runs your request. Privacy policies are there to ensure that this data isn't used unfairly. In theory.There's a couple things wrong with that assumption, though. For one, companies who put out those privacy policies know exactly what they contain, and you, the user, do not. Because you never read them, which is very understandable given they are often written in Legalese which can be incredibly difficult to decipher without a law degree. But their inside knowledge of both the privacy policy, as well as the law of the country, sometimes even state they operate in, allows them to know exactly how they can bend he rules just enough to still make money off that data, serve you ads with it or track you through it.That's another thing, tracking. The thing everyone is so scared of. Go to any somewhat popular website and bring up the source code with ctrl+u. I can almost guarantee you that you are within the first couple hundred lines find references to either Google Analytics (or GAC), or some indecipherable minified _javascript_ that seems to be doing a lot without actually making it clear what it's doing. That my friends is code that tracks what you click, how long it took you to get there, if you stayed on the page after you clicked, sometimes even where you came from. The reason cookies are such a hated thing in the EU is that some sites go a bit further and write some of this info into a cookie that other websites, mostly ad networks, can request. "Has this person looked at shoes? Let's serve them shoe ads".So all this data is going into the black hole of corporate America for the most part, and we're all good with that because we enjoy having our privacy invaded by Uncle Sam more than an unknown party. Trust us,we're the government / the big corporation.The US and China, like was offered, don't really like each other. This has to do mostly with political differences, the history between them and the current climate where that is concerned. So when an app sends your data to China, the media raises a huge stink about it. "oh my god your data your data! It's going to the Chinese who will do god knows what with it!"Except ...yeah ... that's happening here too, we just don't hear about it. I wonder why that is ...The only real difference is that we often don't know the privacy policy of the parent Chinese company that our data gets sent to. But like I said, given how these are abused, that distinction isn't as huge as people may make you believe.How does this tie into Jieshuo? We don't know much about Jieshuo's creator. We don't know what happens to our data, but the situation is more interesting than that.Jieshuo can, just like things like Seeing AI and other services, tell you the result of an OCR check, object detection in an image, translation results etc.For those things to work, APIs are used. I already explained how that works, you send data to the API providers and they process that data and send you back what you need to know. Is that shady, given what we know now?Yes, but it's shady in the same way something like JGT is shady. What do we really know about both the person running the JGT server, as well as the APIs that server uses to give us our game translations? It's Google, if I'm not mistaken, but do we really trust Google more than a Chinese equivalent? If so, why?What I am trying to show here is that although it's easy to follow the path of " USA good, China bad", the truth is far, far more nuanced than that.So we have the Jieshuo company, likely a handful of people at the very most and maybe even just one person, receiving data from us. What I think that is, is a periodic check to see if a license is still valid.Server: Hello, I see you are logged into this user's account, what phone are you?Phone: I am Phone So-and-So, could you check if my license is active?Server: Ok Phone So-and-so, nothing to do here, it's not.Server: Hello, I see you are logged into this account, what phone are you?Phone: I am phone So-And-So. Could you check if my license is active?Server: Seems that it is, phone So-And-So, have some data back that unlocks the full functionality.Phone: Thanks, I will ch
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Response to what was expressed in 78, not necessarily just to it's poster Oh absolutely. A lot of apps from China do send data home to their servers, and as you state yourself, so do apps from pretty much everywhere else in the world. China is just morevillified for it, mostly just because they're China, they are not the glorious U S of A that will never allow your data to fall into nefarious hands. Right? I mean ...right? ...uhm right?Everytime you send a web request to a website, every time an app you use calls an API, everytime you use a smart speaker, data is sent to whatever server runs your request. Privacy policies are there to ensure that this data isn't used unfairly. In theory.There's a couple things wrong with that assumption, though. For one, companies who put out those privacy policies know exactly what they contain, and you, the user, do not. Because you never read them, which is very understandable given they are often written in Legalese which can be incredibly difficult to decipher without a law degree. But their inside knowledge of both the privacy policy, as well as the law of the country, sometimes even state they operate in, allows them to know exactly how they can bend he rules just enough to still make money off that data, serve you ads with it or track you through it.That's another thing, tracking. The thing everyone is so scared of. Go to any somewhat popular website and bring up the source code with ctrl+u. I can almost guarantee you that you are within the first couple hundred lines find references to either Google Analytics (or GAC), or some indecipherable minified _javascript_ that seems to be doing a lot without actually making it clear what it's doing. That my friends is code that tracks what you click, how long it took you to get there, if you stayed on the page after you clicked, sometimes even where you came from. The reason cookies are such a hated thing in the EU is that some sites go a bit further and write some of this info into a cookie that other websites, mostly ad networks, can request. "Has this person looked at shoes? Let's serve them shoe ads".So all this data is going into the black hole of corporate America for the most part, and we're all good with that because we enjoy having our privacy invaded by Uncle Sam more than an unknown party. Trust us,we're the government / the big corporation.The US and China, like was offered, don't really like each other. This has to do mostly with political differences, the history between them and the current climate where that is concerned. So when an app sends your data to China, the media raises a huge stink about it. "oh my god your data your data! It's going to the Chinese who will do god knows what with it!"Except ...yeah ... that's happening here too, we just don't hear about it. I wonder why that is ...The only real difference is that we often don't know the privacy policy of the parent Chinese company that our data gets sent to. But like I said, given how these are abused, that distinction isn't as huge as people may make you believe.How does this tie into Jieshuo? We don't know much about Jieshuo's creator. We don't know what happens to our data, but the situation is more interesting than that.Jieshuo can, just like things like Seeing AI and other services, tell you the result of an OCR check, object detection in an image, translation results etc.For those things to work, APIs are used. I already explained how that works, you send data to the API providers and they process that data and send you back what you need to know. Is that shady, given what we know now?Yes, but it's shady in the same way something like JGT is shady. What do we really know about both the person running the JGT server, as well as the APIs that server uses to give us our game translations? It's Google, if I'm not mistaken, but do we really trust Google more than a Chinese equivalent? If so, why?What I am trying to show here is that although it's easy to follow the path of " USA good, China bad", the truth is far, far more nuanced than that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/572357/#p572357 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @79. then why not a website or a download page? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/572353/#p572353 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @77, well said.Play Store has refused CSR because it used a lot of custom APIs which are not officially approved by Google. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/572348/#p572348 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
2020-09-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Blue-Eyed Demon via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @77: I absolutely love most of what you said here. It is very clear that you actually know something, which is really nice to see. It seems to be becoming a lost art these days. One thing I will tell you, and this isn't to side with the crazies before now, but it is just a little correction, along with a little defense on one of the things you said. So, it pretty much has been confirmed that Chinese apps are known for sending data back to their parent companies, which can very well get distributed. This is one of the main reasons for the TikTok shut down. Although that also has to do with the fact that the U.S. and China are in a pissing match and need to look like they have big balls by doing shit to hurt the other. But that is a whole other story that should be saved for another time. TikTok has been called out by numerous sources, including those at the government level as being guilty of data stealing. And it is even true when you look at their privacy and terms of use policies. And truth is, we don't know what other Chinese-made apps are doing the same thing. However, this is where I defend you. Truth is, U.S. based companies also take a shit load of data when you sign up. Think about it. Amazon, facebook, snapchat, and on and on and on. When you sign up for apps like that, you are running the risk of giving your information to somebody and you don't know what they are going to do with it, whether they are from the U.S., China, or god damn Germany. You get what I am saying though. Data collection happens everywhere. So yeah, why make a big deal out of these things when we have no idea what in the world is going on. Just to be clear, I was not just speaking to the writer of post 77, but to everyone that decides to read this in the future. I don't know what you want to take out of this, but I hope you find this a little informative. What I will say to close out is that, it is your decision on whether you decide to trust these companies with your information. So whether you decide to trust it, or decide to say screw you and spit in the companies' faces, can we just not have pointless arguments over the whole thing. Because in reality, none of us have a clue what in the world is going on. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/572304/#p572304 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Lol a few months later I stumble upon this topic, mostly because I couldn't find the rotor-like thing in the English manual and didn't want to bother the telegram group since I'd seen this topic flash by a while back.Of course, only 5 posts out of the 76 were actually useful, the rest being a bashfest interspersed with people who are trying to show common sense is still a thing. If this is considered topic necromancy, I'm very sorry, but I do want to comment on this. A few things:- I am pretty sure nobody in this topic who has replied is either Chinese, the owner of a China-based company, or both. We therefore have nobody who can tell us what the limitations are regarding owning a business, having that website have a web presence, having that web presence offer downloadable content, et cetera. What we do know is that China is known for a rather strict view on a great many things, so it is plausible there are things an individual might just not be able, or allowed, to do. My thinking is, a person who can code together a screen reader is probably clever enough to figure out all the points that were made here. So one wonders why he doesn't make good on those points. Perhaps he can't. Perhaps he doesn't want to. Only he can answer that, and mindlessly squabbling about it here is not going to get anyone anywhere. Just like Nuno I'd invite anyone to just ...go to the dev and ask. He is in the Telegram group, which you can join in the time it takes for someone to type up a post in this thread, so I fail to see where the issue lies there. The language barrier is a thing but then, so's Google Translate.- Speaking of Google, I thought this was common knowledge but evidently it is not. Google and China aren't exactly the best of friends in a lot of ways. Censure is a serious problem, and a lot of services we take for granted here have Chinese counterparts that dominate the market, probably by design. That includes Google Search, Facebook, PayPal, the works. So it really isn't much of a stretch for me to understand that getting a Chinese app that needs a bunch of permissions to do it's thing onto the Play Store might not be as simple as all that, especially if your English is poor.- I love how people rant and rave about the so-called 10MB that gets sent to China. I also love that we've yet to hear from the mythical supercoders who apparently figured out this was happening.If you are clever and skilled enough to sniff traffic off your phone, which requires some pretty specialized knowledge, you are generally also clever enough to analyze that traffic and see what it is. So why is it that we don't know what this data contains? And why is this data such a pretty, whole number? Show me the data, show me the Wireshark logs or whatever was used, or seriously, shut the fudge up about it. At this point I'm absolutely willing to believe the data exists or doesn't exist, but come up with evidence either way or finally let this dead horse rest, please.- Finally ...people ... it's a screenreader. It's not a bitcoin miner, it's not ransomeware, it's a freaking screenreader. If this really was such a terrible scary shady scam, why would they target such a small part of the Android user base? Do you think data from blind people is somehow tastier and more valuable in China? I mean ...I know they eat things we consider odd but that goes a tad far, I think.Right now, I know the way Commentary, Jieshuo or however you wish to refer to it, is being offered in a , to us, non-standard way. I do not know how standard this distribution channel is for other Chinese software, for I am not Chinese nor do I know someone who is well enough to ask. Therefore, I can't judge. I do know that often, chinese audiogames that have been advertised here are distributed through filesharing websites, rather than the dev's own website. One has to wonder why that is.I also know that one party is offering that CSR is not safe, and another party is offering that it is. Truth is that we don't know either way as end users,but then the same is true for a lot of apps we use everyday. Aira says they don't record us, but do we trust Aira? Yes. Why, because they are a US-based company? That sounds almost racist.And then I know there may, or may not, be a large upload of data when you activate your license. What I know about Jieshuo license activation is that you give your user ID in the form to pay for the license, which is about 15 bucks for a year by the way, which you can do from another device, and that some time within 24 hours your license gets activated. One has to wonder when this big block of data is sent, how it was captured if the timing isn't previously known, and what was in it. There are no answers to any of these questions, which makes it sound very
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
2020-08-05
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : StormProductions via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Hello,Well, I thought I'm the one using Commentary here. The same goes for Microsoft SwiftKey, which seems pretty good for me,.By the way, you said that we all use Google everyday. Let me say that I just reinstalled my ROM a few days ago and I forgot to install google apps at all, that meaning that I don't even have play store on it now. I just have a few main apps that I installed using Aptoide. I like the fact that it has root support that lets you install an app automatically after downloading, exactly as play store does. And believe me, my phone works way better without google apps. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558526/#p558526 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @meatbag, go to csr setting>action>scrolling setting>turn on brows by control on web pages. now try to open crome or whatev , you just have to slide up or down to change the navigation mode, or slide left or right, depending on your setting.csr works best with google keyboard for me URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558293/#p558293 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS For those wanting to browse the web using commentary, visit Program Settings>Action Settings>Scrolling Settings. Make sure to check the "Browse By Control On Web pages" checkbox. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558250/#p558250 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS I use Microsoft SwiftKey as my keyboard of choice. I like the options I can adjust a lot, and I've found its voice typing and predictive text suggestions seem to be better than others. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558222/#p558222 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @72 look at all the settings you can set with Gboard, their is a lot of them and what @70 said is verry true and I do have the number role set on both my phone and tablet and will never use anything other then Gboard. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558221/#p558221 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
2020-08-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : KenshiraTheTrinity via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS I will look again. Just something I took for granted on this keyboard I guess. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558216/#p558216 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS What about Unbearable web navigation URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558213/#p558213 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @KenshiraTheTrinity: You mean you haven't looked at GBoard's settings? Not only can you have the numbers displayed above the qwerty row, but you will then be able to press shit and use the symbols that are on the number row (at, number, dollar, etc). That's been in there for a while. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558193/#p558193 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @KenshiraTheTrinity: You mean you haven't looked at GBoard's settings? NOt only can you have the numbers displayed above the qwerty row, but you will then be able to press shit and use the symbols that are on the number row (at, number, dollar, etc). URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558193/#p558193 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
2020-08-04
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : KenshiraTheTrinity via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Been using voice assistant for a while and no one said that it has a roter like function also with the vertical and horizontal 3 finger swipes.I also tried other keyboards besides the Samsung keyboard and found it was annoying to have to switch to the symbols to have access to the numbers, whereas the Samsung keyboard had it right there. So although the latest Android update made it slightly annoying to use, I still prefer the Samsung keyboard over gboard and flixy. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558186/#p558186 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Samsung Keyboard sucks in general. Nothing new there. Get another keyboard and you should be fine there. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558173/#p558173 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS so I downloaded the screen reader to see how it looks like it is good and I like how we can download extensions and search. but but it is bad when navigating the web. I can't find a way to navigate between headings and links like and talk back. and it extremely sucks with Samsung keyboard. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/558152/#p558152 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @JasonBlaze: I have no doubt that the developer is good and doing a great job on the screen-reader. IT's just he could use more of an international distribution plan. If he can't start an individual website then have someone else run it. HIMS and GW Micro worked together from 2006 to 2011 in getting the products an established U.S. customer base, so I don't see why that can't be done for this product that, in my opinion, deserves our time just as much. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554529/#p554529 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS it's just funny how this topic starts with announcement and then some peapol turned it into what sounds like, "iw chinese software, iw, iw, iw.". haha I guess one day without turning one topic into a warzone/bash area is like one day without a meal for some of you? let's be fair, I do agree it's freaking annoying when you have to install telegram just to download this one. The guy could do better than that on the distribution side of thing honestly. there is a plan for telegram channel but while it might be easier for some of us, it's still the problem for those who are not using telegram, (seriously though telegram is now head to head with what's app and sounds like more customizable+professional somehow, everyone been using it, starting from a standard chit chat to a more serious things like business etc). but still I don't think you have to install a software to download a software. eh there is a web version of telegram though, can you use that to check content of a channel without registering though?Correct me if I am wrong, but it looks like you have to be a big company to own an official website there in China? I feel bad for them, so many restriction on that country, but then again a way to bypass that restriction is there especially if he would like to make the software to be international (well I don't think that is his goal at first, it's just we who find out about it and help him in the translation).I notice about this website thing when I am starting to play Chinese games, 1 or 2 man developers tend to share their software via qq while bigger company like the developer of ROTK (which I am sure pretty rich now) uses a website. saddly, the developer of CSR, lee, is working alone.Lastly there are this facts:first, CSR been gaining users all over the world on each and every day. I am also been using this screen reader for a few months now, and no one complain anything about it as far as I know, no one says the screen reader fucks up their phone, and importantly there is no case of stolen money. If the developer have such bad intention why not doing it now? it's a big, big chance, man look at how many users it got, imagine how much money he could steal. oh there is a issue of selling data to deepweb yeah? but I don't see how that's even work, and no one could really prove that is actually true or not other than some creapy pastas trying to be real (well you do believe or not in creapy pastas or not is a different story) , if that is true though, this app is no different than google which you use everyday.secondly: It's getting better each day, it's light, fast and customizable, it feels like NVDA on android. sounds like over exaggeration but it is what it is. while I still prefer a few things from talkback but CSR kind of leave talkback behind. + it's frequently updated so expect quick bug fixes, and well maybe... more bugs?Thirdly, you don't have to contact nuno to talk to the developer, seriously who has that idea lol , I can contact lee just fine via email when I would like to reactivate my licence, consult about my translation etc. He is even on the telegram group to respond for bug reports, questions and suggestions. he uses Chinese though, don't know why he can't just translate whatever he says to English. but the guy sounds nice enough. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554527/#p554527 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS it's just funny how this topic starts with announcement and then some peapol turned it into what sounds like, "iw chinese software, iw, iw, iw.". haha I guess one day without turning one topic into a warzone/bash area is like one day without a meal for some of you? let's be fair, I do agree it's freaking annoying when you have to install telegram just to download this one. The guy could do better than that on the distribution side of thing honestly. there is a plan for telegram channel but while it might be easier for some of us, it's still the problem for those who are not using telegram, (seriously though telegram is now head to head with what's app and sounds like more customizable+professional somehow, everyone been using it, starting from a standard chit chat to a more serious things like business etc). but still I don't think you have to install a software to download a software. eh there is a web version of telegram though, can you use that to check content of a channel without registering though?Correct me if I am wrong, but it looks like you have to be a big company to own an official website there in China? I feel bad for them, so many restriction on that country, but then again a way to bypass that restriction is there especially if he would like to make the software to be international (well I don't think that is his goal at first, it's just we who find out about it and help him in the translation).I notice about this website thing when I am starting to play Chinese games, 1 or 2 man developers tend to share their software via qq while bigger company like the developer of ROTK (which I am sure pretty rich now) uses a website. saddly, the developer of CSR, lee, is working alone.Lastly there are this facts:first, CSR been gaining users all over the world on each and every day. I am also been using this screen reader for a few months now, and no one complain anything about it as far as I know, no one says the screen reader fucks up their phone, and importantly there is no case of stolen money. If the developer have such bad intention why not doing it now? it's a big, big chance, man look at how many users it got, imagine how much money he could steal. oh there is a issue of selling data to deepweb yeah? but I don't see how that's even work, and no one could really prove that is actually true or not other than some creapy pastas trying to be real (well you do believe or not in creapy pastas or not is a different story)secondly: It's getting better each day, it's light, fast and customizable, it feels like NVDA on android. sounds like over exaggeration but it is what it is. while I still prefer a few things from talkback but CSR kind of leave talkback behind. + it's frequently updated so expect quick bug fixes, and well maybe... more bugs?Thirdly, you don't have to contact nuno to talk to the developer, seriously who has that idea lol , I can contact lee just fine via email when I would like to reactivate my licence, consult about my translation etc. He is even on the telegram group to respond for bug reports, questions and suggestions. he uses Chinese though, don't know why he can't just translate whatever he says to English. but the guy sounds nice enough. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554527/#p554527 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS um they should not fire up there selves and start sending things with out you know URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554518/#p554518 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS There are some online services within the paid version of the app (scene description, per-app ocr, tc). URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554513/#p554513 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS 10 mb is 1000 charicters, what kind of cystom information is this URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554509/#p554509 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Oh come on!Even I can make an app which would get the device's Emei number and probably all the system details, and still not send over 1 MB of the data. Do you really think that some random lines of numbers and alphabets would take 10 MB of data! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554494/#p554494 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Oh come on!Even I can made an app which would get the device's Emei number and probably all the system details, and still not send over 1 MB of the data. Do you realy think that some random lines of numbers and alphabets would take 10 MB of data! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554494/#p554494 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @58 I will have to take a look at that app store URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554261/#p554261 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS I can get behind a company when a company is ready and willing to show it's going to get behind its users. That's who I am and how I work. That is also why I made post 33 and still stick to it. People can be a problem, but no professional company goes under just because it is not initially well received, or else I'd have no job right now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554243/#p554243 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS There are plans of getting the screen reader into the Playstore. For now though it's delayed do to Covid 19. That's the last I remember from the Telegram group.Although you do need the Telegram group to download the latest version (until a proper English site comes out), you can buy Commentary Premium from with n the Help and Support menu. Yes, not everyone uses Pay Pal, and I recommended Cash as an alternative. But yes, for many, if it ain't in the play store, many won't go out their way to grab an app like that, regardless of how good it is.Up To Down is a fantastic option (which is similar to the playstore as in its interface) and can replace the Play Store at the system level if ya don't like it.That would be the best alternative App store, if anywhere else.Just like with HUAWEI phones these days and Windows Mobile phones back in the day, if Google ain't there, folks won't use it!PS. Considering Commentary Premium is an "external" purchase that is tied to the app itself and to the Up To Down store, would payment be allowed in that case? Hmmm... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554226/#p554226 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS There are plans of getting the screen reader into the Playstore. For now though it's delayed do to Covid 19. That's the last I remember from the Telegram group.Although you do need the Telegram group to download the latest version (until a proper English site comes out), you can buy Commentary Premium from with n the Help and Support menu. Yes, not everyone uses Pay Pal, and I recommended Cash as an alternative. But yes, for many, if it ain't in the play store, many won't go out their way to grab an app like that, regardless of how good it is.Up To Down is a fantastic option (which is similar to the playstore as in its interface) and can replace the Play Store a the system level if ya don't like it.That would be the best alternative App store, if anywhere else.Just like with HUAWEI phones these days and Windows Mobile phones back in the day, if Google ain't there, folks won't use it! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554226/#p554226 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS There are plans of getting the screen reader into the Playstore. For now though it's delady do to Covid 19. That's the last I remember from the Telegram group.Although you do need the Telegram group to download the latest version (until a proper English site comes out), you can buy Commentary Premium from with n the Help and Support menu. Yes, not everyone uses Pay Pal, and I recommended Cash as an alternative. But yes, for many, if it ain't in the play store, many won't go out their way to grab an app like that, regardless of how good it is.Up To Down is a fantastic option (which is similar to the playstore as in its interface) and can replace it if ya don't like it.That would be the best alternative App store, if anywhere else.Just like with HUAWEI phones these days and Windows Mobile phones back in the day, if Google ain't there, folks won't use it! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554226/#p554226 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS There are plans of getting the screen into the Playstore. For now though it's delady do to Covid 19. That's the last I remember from the Telegram group.Although you do need the Telegram group to download the latest version (until a proper English site comes out), you can buy Commentary Premium from with n the Help and Support menu. Yes, not everyone uses Pay Pal, and I recommended Cash as an alternative. But yes, for many, if it ain't in the play store, many won't go out their way to grab an app like that, regardless of how good it is.Up To Down is a fantastic option (which is similar to the playstore as in its interface) and can replace it if ya don't like it.That would be the best alternative App store, if anywhere else.Just like with HUAWEI phones these days and Windows Mobile phones back in the day, if Google ain't there, folks won't use it! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554226/#p554226 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @54 nah. Ever since the start I was explaining why the decription thing is not something commentary is doing. Ethin already posted a link to some great information on why you really should not collect the device Imei. If the dev doesn't like that, too bad, but I can't see the problem. The dev really can't tell us to fuck off, for the simple reason that he did nothing other than add the English translations Nuno worked on. In fact, he is the one doing most of the work for the international users. But hey, if you think Telegram is the right way to go about promoting such an important piece of software. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554223/#p554223 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @DJEPIC: The only way to really reach out to the dev is to go through Nuno since the dev does not speak English. Would be totally ok were it not for the fact there could be a lot done, and there isn't being work done, on a proper, more professional English distribution approach. Were this a free product I would not be complaining, but since it is a commercial product that has garnered a bit of an international audience it kind of pays to have a little bit more than an unofficial purchase process. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554217/#p554217 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Well, this whole thing comes down to:I bought the program, and love what it can do. It's fast, flexible, and is very regularly updated and added to. About data collection (and coming from someone who knows nothing about it), I generally follow the argument that it's trading ease of use and convenience for more data on you and a better, more acurate image on you, but it's the only real argument I've seen about this.Also, we're blaming the independent dev for all of this, but has anyone actually went on the group to ask people who know him best what's going on? I don't think they'd lie, because the product isn't popular enough to not feel the consequences, so if they were found lying, they'd have all their users cancel their subscriptions. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554194/#p554194 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS You know, if the guy developing this screen reader turned around and told international users to go fuck themselves, I wouldn't blame him at all. Since opening the screen reader up to the international market, he's been met with hostility, accused of deliberately decrypting people's phones and stealing their data. In 2020 people like Devinprater still mindlessly parrot this misinformation despite the fact that the device decryption thing was debunked pretty much the minute the tinfoil hat types of the eyes free community started screeching about it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554192/#p554192 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Hey people,I was going to say something bad about the country, but, currently, they are facing massive fluds in some parts of the country, so, instead I wish them safety. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554028/#p554028 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Come on people,You all know that so and so is a very good government, we all know how democratic they are, we all know how they don't permit any persecution or forced labor, we all know how well and friendly they are with a particular section of certain community, we all know how happy things are in those thousands of years old Buddhist monasteries, we all know that how companies of so and so country are told to respect user-privacy, we all know that mass-surveillance is not a thing in that happy country, so what's the worry about.I am sure that developers of a wonderful screen readers have done nothing suspicious, everything is just fine. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/554028/#p554028 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @51 interesting that is kind of tipical of them to do that URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553987/#p553987 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @50 yes, though now it is quite outdated and no longer very useful. In fact, the last time I tried it, Code factory completely abandoned the screen reader itself and the only remaining thing is their suit of accessible apps. However, a few years ago it was possible to use Mobile accessibility as a standalone screen reader. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553985/#p553985 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @44 is this one of the screen readers you were talking about? https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta … ellcarrier URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553977/#p553977 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS In context, this problem with Commentary and getting it on the Play Store proper, is similar to what is happening with the Elten Network.Although there has been a fully translated English installer and Windows application for awhile now:https://elten-net.eu/download/, the web site (until sometime at the end of August), is currently not in English.Interestingly by default, https://eltenblog.net/, the home for all Elten Blogs (powered by Word Press), is English by default.Right, I'll let yall get back to Commentary. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553955/#p553955 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Also, that does not excuse the not having a dedicated site to something you supposedly want to succeed. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553948/#p553948 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS trash, some chinese indie devs have their own apps on the playstore. That is not a valid excuse. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553931/#p553931 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @nuno sayd on a Polish podcast for the blind that they cant get it on the play store because of some China garbage, dont exactly remember what he sayd so.Well considering China has one of the dumbest govermends, its to be expected URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553907/#p553907 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Fair enough, then as far as I'm concerned, just one of those has to be the must here. That is it either gets its own dedicated site for the sake of transparency, or it goes on the play store. Failure to do either of these is a disservice to the people it supposedly wants to cater to at this point and, if the product is actually any good, also does it an absolute injustice. Tell these people to put their money where their mouth is; it's time to stop trying to gage interest and officially launch! Forget trying to launch a perfect product; you can get to that later! It's time to launch a product you can perfect or else all you have is a fragmented service some people know about and many are going to distrust because it just seems to be lurking off in the background like some shady mystery! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553903/#p553903 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @42 yes, Google allows other screen readers on the play store of course. Examples include shine plus and mobile accessibility. Not sure if Spiel ever was on there since I wasn't using Android back when that one was in it's active development. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553898/#p553898 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Whether the site works or not, it's clear that this company needs a massive professional effort the likes of what GW Micro did for Hims to actually bring the products to an American audience. The developer does not speak a word of English yet Nuno is doing all the work. He does not need to be the only one translating an entire manual, handling the communication channel - it's no wonder he doesn't want to do a website. If we want this screen reader to gain more of an English customer-base then he needs to let us come together and help. It can't be just one or two people having to handle it all. There needs to be support and training too, not just distribution on an as-is basis, and this is even more important for a commercial product. One of Android's benefits has always been screen-reader choice. But give us a reason to choose this over Talkback if it's just barely able to handle an English translation, never mind that NVDA, an open source project mind you, is getting numerous translations, and even offers phone support now. Sorry, but until this actually gets a proper English distribution channel it's going to be rather difficult to convince people that this is what they want. Nocturnus has a very good point there is a bit of resistance from the VI community, but for all of Nuno's good work to handle the English distribution and communication channels, the lead developer is showing a complete lack of professionalism by not hiring more staff or allowing a company or collective full distribution rights such is what HIms arranged with GW Micro. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553890/#p553890 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS So uh, stupid question, but has there ever been any other screen reader on google's play store? Because if there hasn't, then why on earth is this the expectation? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553889/#p553889 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Ironic, but if you'd like more answers, join the group? The dev's on there too. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553886/#p553886 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS um, play store only takes 1 time payment of 25 dollars, and the paid version of this screanreader is more expensiv than that, so they can get an acount with 1 person pays them URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553882/#p553882 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS I'm kinda curious why its not on the play store already. What's stopping them from doing it? Is it Google? And for reasons why they shouldn't use your IMEI or IMSI, look at this Information security stack exchange question. Though the IMEI and IMSI are useful and easily available elements for licenses and authentication and such, its not a good thing to do; use ID-license systems or something else instead (or, hell, just get the damn thing on the play store and use that). URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553875/#p553875 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Nuno wrote:because it's the Chinese website maybe? Really, take your time and research a bit lol.Oh, so sites can't be in multiple languages? Translated to English?@Nocturnus acctually, I have no problem with it's features or functionality. But if this screen reader ever wants to take off, it needs a download page of some sorts. When someone asks me how to get this Commentary screen reader, I should not need to tell them oh well, first you install this Telegram app, then you have to join this chat group you may not ever need if you do not speak English, then you will find it in the files section. Oh yeah and guess what? To figure out when a new version is out, take a look at the files section occasionally. I wouldn't even complain if for example, several items in settings were not in English. That can easily be fixed in a future update. However, getting a proper site is more important, unless of course you plan it to be on the Play store eventually, in which case none of this really matters. But since that did not happen for a year, I am assuming it is not going to. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553857/#p553857 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS for me it works URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553855/#p553855 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS I researched. This is what google translate has to say about it.No site was found.Your request didn't find the corresponding site on the website!Possible reasons:1. You didn't linked this domain name or IP address to the corresponding site!2. The configuration file doesn't have effect!How to solve this issue:1. Check if you are linked to the corresponding site. If it is confirmed, try reloading the web service.2. Check if the port is correct.3. If you use a CDN product, try erasing the CDN product.For normal website visitors, communicate with the webmaster.What does this mean? It's not even a home page for the jieshuo thing. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553854/#p553854 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS because it's the Chinese website maybe? Really, take your time and research a bit lol. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553850/#p553850 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS I agree, that jieshuo666 thing is a .com domain, that indeed costs money. Why can't they host a website in it?That makes it even shadier than what it was before. Anyways, I sent the server to my fellow spanish friends derion and BOFH, to see if they could track something down. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553848/#p553848 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Am watching this one closely. I still wonder if Commentary will be to Android what NVDA has been to windows in a roundabout way. The biggest issue I see right now is resistance from the blind communities in general, and I saw that with NVDA as well. To this day NVDA's functionality, depending on what you're using and how you're using it can be a contentious subject. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553838/#p553838 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS So,10 Mb of data to share details of my device and licence status!Yeah, I find that very cool.Also, So, they have Jesuo.com or something, a server to do all this activation stuff, but nothing to host a website!I am a big fan of you!You also seem to be taking too much time to bring it to playstore, and I've seen far more suspicious apps getting on the playstore, even during Corona time, way faster than this.So, you have my complete trust!Thank! you! Jeshuo! for! these! wonderful! so! little! suspicious! things! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553805/#p553805 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @nidza07: ID generation always depends on factors, but I agree they could do different than hardware-based information. There's always the name-key system which usually encrypts your name within a constant, but I really think fido2/u2f might be more full-proof. Besides, fido2/u2f is embarrassingly uncommon, and it's because no one wants to be bothered to spend a little more for security - it's painful to have bought a good product only for it to be used with, what, 4 sites, none of which are Paypal and Paypal is even part of the god-damn fido alliance mind you! But I digress. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553801/#p553801 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Mobile speak used a bunch of things which are past our time now. Should we switch back to SMS activation? Better yet, send an SMS to get your trial? The program should simply generate an ID on device, then send that ID over to the server, instead of sending the Imei itself. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553798/#p553798 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS I can't seem to find where to activate this mode, where is this. To be honest, I'm being kinda lazy, but a more descriptive change log would be nice I guess?Also, will this conflict with my other actions set for the same gestures? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553797/#p553797 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @nidza07: Mobile Speak used this same thing for licensing before they switched to phone number licensing. What else are they supposed to do if the app isn't in the play store - other than deploy their own server and use u2f. That sounds like a better approach, but the general public doesn't care to spend an extra $20 on a security key. Right now, it's no different than a program generating license info based on your cpu, motherboard, video card, and other hardware information of your windows machine. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553792/#p553792 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS My imei? What the heck? No thanks. Screen reader does not ever, ever need access to that. Glad you said it though so I can know. Bonus tip: Apps can use a Google account to verify a licence, which is what millions of apps do. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553790/#p553790 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @devinprater: Dude! Banned as in your license was banned. Not operation of the screen-reader.@nono: Sent you an email. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553783/#p553783 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @devinprater: Dude! Banned as in your license was banned. Not operation of the screen-reader. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553783/#p553783 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @17 Thanks, that helped. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553775/#p553775 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Why the crap should you be banned from using a screen reader? Like, what the crap! What if that's all you have on at the moment and you start up your phone and no speech? That's... really bad and I feel bad for blind Android users. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553720/#p553720 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS The data is send to the server: www.jieshuo666.com in order to check whether:A. You're a registered userB. You have a license activatedC. Your IMEI hasn't been banned from using the program.The software also connects to 3RD party websites in order to query data like translation results, OCR services ETC. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553716/#p553716 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS I mean, if I, a not-yet-programmer, can make a site using Hugo, or even Jekyll, and GitHub Pages, then I'm sure these developers can do so too. Having people need to use Telegram is stupid and unprofessional. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553705/#p553705 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
2020-07-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ashleygrobler04 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS But the developer would obviously say "there isn't any private data sent to us..." so nope. still, i won't use that screen reader. to those who enjoy it, then that's awesome. but i just... don't trust that app. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553700/#p553700 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @19, that I'll agree with. If they can accept payments then they can build a website and be transparent about their data collection practices (which they should be, given the GDPR and all). URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553696/#p553696 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS So let's recap:There is no centralized Commentary website (no, telegram does not count).The app must be downloaded through Telegram, not through Google Play.Questions from multiple people, including myself, about what is being sent home are being ignored by the developers.Yeah, I'm good. Will stick to TalkBack until the shadiness factor decreases.Edit: Grammar, spelling and clarifications. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553694/#p553694 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS So let's recap:There is no centralized Commentary website (no, telegram does not count).The app must be downloaded through Telegram, not through Google Play.Questions about what is being sent home are being ignored by the developers.Yeah, I'm good. Will stick to TalkBack until the shadiness factor decreases. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553694/#p553694 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS So let's recap:There is no centralized Commentary website (no, telegram does not count).The app must be downloaded through Telegram, not through Google Play.Questions about what data is being sent home are being ignored by the developers.Yeah, I'm good. Will stick to TalkBack until the shadiness factor decreases. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553694/#p553694 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @4, is there any actual evidence to prove that this data transmission does actually occur, other than two people's say-so? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553680/#p553680 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS I agree, even indie programmers have their websites with a random subdomain or stuff. They could do the same.And at 9, they actually did, but the dev didn't even bothered to reply to them. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553651/#p553651 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS If I had all the time in the world I would crweate a website, Theres a way to remove stuff from the rotor, a button with the chinese name next to the checkbox. I am sorry for missing this trfanslation URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553645/#p553645 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Eh, that's pretty normal though. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553574/#p553574 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Wow cool! They are missing their opportunity not having a website. They must only really care about the Chinese and Russian market. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553571/#p553571 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Wow cool! They are missing their opportunity not having a website. They must only really care about the Chinese market. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553571/#p553571 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Diego wrote:@2On windows, you need^ narrator to install NVDA. Is the same thingDo you need Telegram or WhatsApp to download NVDA? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553545/#p553545 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS I like csr, though am now sad because it doesn't have braille input. I use an old APK of soft braille keyboard for now, but am unsure how long it'll last. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553540/#p553540 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @st.mc, I thought so, I've only ever been able to see usernames in public groups. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553539/#p553539 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS if only it was possible to change what options appear in that very long rotor -like list. Some of those options are really useless for a free user.edit: just saw this and had to reply. Telegram doesn't share phone numbers. your number is only shared with your contacts, and even that one can be deactivated. You'll appear with your nickname and username for everyone, Unlike whatsapp URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553532/#p553532 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS if only it was possible to change what options appear in that very long rotor -like list. Some of those options are really useless for a free user. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553532/#p553532 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @2On windows, you need^ narrator to install NVDA. Is the same thing URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553526/#p553526 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS By default, its left/right swipes. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553525/#p553525 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS I'll paste a link to the most recent APK in a while.Nuno, thanks once more. I'll check out this update as I've been yearning for an equivalent.By the way, does Telegram really not have a way to hide phone numbers?Also, where can I find info on the rotor equivalent and its default gesture mapping? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553524/#p553524 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS I'll paste a link to the most recent APK in a while.Nuno, thanks once more. I'll check out this update as I've been yearning for an equivalent.By the way, does Telegram really not have a way to hide phone numbers? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553524/#p553524 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS hi, is there anyway to have the app with out having to use telegram? I don't want to share my phone number URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553518/#p553518 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS If they are good enough to check that the program sends data, maybe they will be good enough and just ask the developer? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553510/#p553510 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS I wouldn't download that thing from a telegram group, spanish programmers like Derion and BOFH said that when you buy a lisence for the bad guy, it sends 9 or 10 mb of your data to a random chinese server. Wonder what kind of data does it send, and where does it send that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553508/#p553508 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Unfortunately, due to overwhelming amounts of spam, users from your region currently can't send messages to some public groups. You have joined this group in read-only mode.WTF? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553505/#p553505 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS @Nidza07: In fairness, the download files are in the telegram group. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553487/#p553487 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Re: Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Nobody can drop Talkback eternally, because you can't setup your phone, and install that awesome screen reader without it. Now, did we get a download page yet? That would be nice. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553481/#p553481 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS
Commentary Screenreader now contains something like a rotor in iOS Hello,as the topic says, in the latest update of CSR it is possible to have something like a rotor, where you assign things that should be on it.For those who dont know, CSR now contains an international version which does not contain chinese TTS and other things available only in China. It's 5,6 MB in size!So I recommend you to join the official Telegram group, download the program and drop Talkback eternally!https://t.me/jieshuochat URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/553454/#p553454 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
