Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra I definitely wouldn't trust it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/410648/#p410648 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra sorry for reviving this, but is this trustable or is it a hacking software like that guys other projects? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/410641/#p410641 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra Peace onto you all,And hi!I don't come here very often. Thanks for the help with the viruses issue. I have backup in the form of another whole computer. I fell on the stairs and the pixels in the screen broke, eh, so no screen. Now, to the actual thing that the topic was about, we all have our opinions and we all gotta respect each other. This is the key to a good community. thanks all for your help and views. I hope you're having a good weekend!<3 URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/404805/#p404805 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra Hello evry one! I am not completely sure, but this guy ahmed did attempt to get me to download his software, so yeah, i won't be using his software URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/404014/#p404014 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra Yeah. I mean I can only speak for myself here, but None of my games have viruses. I've spent 15 years or so building up the community's trust. To do anything malicious would just be dumb. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/403921/#p403921 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra I really like Pontes Media Downloader. it's not as good as foober in it's configuration tweaks, but it's not as daunting to set up, either. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402790/#p402790 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra I'll bet it's just a hit counter. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402708/#p402708 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra hi,a quick question, though.when checking the pontes media downloader websites, it is stated that pontes media downloader has been downloaded x amount of time, from a particular date.but how exactly, and why, does it keep track of downloaded videos and playlists?it says: Since 29 October 2014 there were 755432 tracks and 59918 playlists downloaded using Pontes Media Downloader (version 2.1).now, suppose I want to keep my tracks hidden from that stat counting, is there really much of a choice?although the numbers alone don't pose a risk compared to above programme, but just curious what method is employed for the same, as it is impossible to count the number without relaying the information to a server or an online source. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402699/#p402699 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra hi,a quick question, though.when checking the pontes media downloader websites, it is stated that pontes media downloader has been downloaded x amount of time, from a particular date.but how exactly, and why, does it keep track of downloaded videos and playlists?it says: Since 29 October 2014 there were 755432 tracks and 59918 playlists downloaded using Pontes Media Downloader (version 2.1).now, suppose I want to keep my tracks hidden from that stat counting, is there really much of a choice?although the numbers alone don't pose a risk compared to above programme, but just curious what method it employs for the same, as it is impossible to count the number without relaying the information to a server or an online source. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402699/#p402699 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra hi,a quick question, though.when checking the pontes media downloader websites, it is stated that pontes media downloader has been downloaded x amount of time, from a particular ate.but how exactly, and why, does it keep track of downloaded videos and playlists?it says: Since 29 October 2014 there were 755432 tracks and 59918 playlists downloaded using Pontes Media Downloader (version 2.1).now, suppose I want to keep my tracks hidden from that stat counting, is there really much of a choice?although the numbers alone don't pose a risk compared to above programme, but just curious what method it employs for the same, as it is impossible to count the number without relaying the information to a server or an online source. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402699/#p402699 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra Backup your important data manually (do not use an image backup) then reinstall windows. It's the best way. It's a shit ton more effective then weeding them out yourself. Some viruses are even beyond ridiculous enough to have a visual captcha in their uninstaller, but fortunately I knew what to do, to delete the dll after quitting regsvr32.exe (yes, it had embedded its way into the system pretty deep for a browser adware virus.)If you're on windows 7, grab a talking windows preinstllation environment. If you're on 10, you already have a talking installer, so just grab an iso off Ms's site and you're good to go. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402675/#p402675 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra Peace onto you all.I, for myself will admit and be honest, that I don't have any knowledge of programing or what soever. I am also happy that, you gave some knowledge instead of only stating any facts. I love when there are proves because I don't believe without any proves. the plugins list made me enough curious to even ask why there are so many wow, of them.Secondly, I have always said and will say it. I try to deal with stuff justly. It doesn't matter if someone is my friend or not. I have said, even to my best friend that if something happens with her and she things it's good, but it's bad, I will not support it and I have stood up to what I've just said.I love these few posts with facts and I would definitely look at all those.Also I wonder about something else and I will ask it.Is it possible to develop a program and your computer to be affected by those viruses without your knowledge?Plus, I am not scared of trying any programs as this computer I am currently using is full of viruses already that attack my browser and I had to put Avast from preventing them to load up and take my data. I can't remove it now though. And the last but not least, how to remove these Russian viruses? lol.<3 peace.ameena. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402668/#p402668 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra I'm rather late to this, but from looking at the beginning of it, this program is just a cheap wrapper around youtube-dl and FFmpeg, and it forces you to use mp3 which kills quality. No thanks, I've already got enough knowledge to use those programs at raw. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402667/#p402667 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra @62, true. Though it only does that with BGT games, and like I said previously, this isn't written in BGT. And yeah, I tried to be as objective as possible, and gave my analysis as I found it. It was hard to do though. But I tried, and I (hope) I did. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402518/#p402518 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra Malware Bytes is awesome. Maybe not as awesome as it used to be, but still awesome.And I appreciate that you gave the results of that other program honestly without trying to hide it to make your point, not everyone would do that.But yes, especially this original poster seems almost cultishly sure of the good intentions of the developer... Makes you wonder if they are close friends or that it's the developer him self even...I gotta say though any time an AV classifies an audio game as a machine learning threat it's hard not to laugh. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402513/#p402513 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra @60, good post. Though I may have been extremely pushy, I did try my best to prove my case (and I think I mostly succeeded). Those who wish to keep their heads in the sand won't listen no matter what we tell them until their hacked with this program. Malwarebytes yesterday went from being fine with it running to classifying it as "generic.malware/suspicious". Like I said, perhaps one of these days I'll reload it in the sandbox that I have and decompile it, if Malwarbytes doesn't delete it first. (I like it when Malwarebytes and I work together like this! ) URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402497/#p402497 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra With the amount of false positives that tend to get thrown by anti virus programs when scanning these types of hobbyist applications, where security is nearly always an afterthought, it's a very unsure thing weather or not their is a real threat.Not to mention that their are some big names missing from that list of hits, and as Ethin showed, other common programs in our community get similar results (even if they aren't using BGT) though not, quite, to the same degree.And with all the conjecture by those not officially educated in cyber security, or coding for that matter, their are bound to be tons of false flags turned up do to bias or simply lack of knowledge.At the same time though, those with their heads in the sand, who simply keep repeating the mantra (I haven't noticed anything bad yet) aren't helping either.If the program truly does contain a selectively activated remote access component and nothing else more obvious, such as a bitcoin minor or adware virus,then of course you wouldn't notice anything until the author decides to use it, and maybe not even then, if it's built well.Honestly, until this thing provides something significant that Youtube DL can't, then I just wouldn't risk it personally, but by all means, if those people convinced that this guy is harmless want to be the guinea pigs, I don't think we should stop them.Until then I'd suggest most people keep using Pontes Media Downloader instead, unless you want to grab an entire channel's videos or something, in which case you can learn Youtube DL, which apparently isn't that hard to use. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402485/#p402485 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra @57, I know their VLC plugins. But my question remains unanswered -- why is it using libvlc when libvlc is superfluous? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402373/#p402373 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra Yeah, I made it clear Foobar was for streaming but held other benefits too like parsing information from the youtube videos more accessibly. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402371/#p402371 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra @56, Those seem to be, for the most part, VLC libraries, if it's using libvlc. A surprising number of plugins appear to have been removed, though. And @49, foo_youtube doesn't offer the option to download videos, though you can sort of download them by using the converter component. It seems there may be some quality loss in the conversion process, though. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402366/#p402366 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra @56, Those seem to be, for the most part, VLC libraries, if it's using libvlc. A surprising number of plugins appear to have been removed, though. And @49, foo_youtube doesn't offer the option to download videos, though you can sort of download them by using the converter. It seems there may be some quality loss in the conversion process, though. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402366/#p402366 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra @56, Those seem to be, for the most part, VLC libraries, if it's using libvlc. A surprising number of plugins appear to have been removed, though. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402366/#p402366 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra @56, Those seem to be, for the most part, VLC libraries, if it's using libvlc. libmod isn't included though URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402366/#p402366 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra Update: I missed one program in post 54. It is:* aria2c, The next generation download utility.Curious why that's there too, since Python already has libraries for just this. Also, the program also seems to use libvlc, which is VLC Media Players library for streaming audio. Even stranger...Also, just updated the sandbox to block all internet access. Loading the program yields... nothing. It doesn't even start. Which makes me think it was trying to send some kind of internet command or something when it started, but the sandbox prohibited it. I also have a full list of plugins, with the directories followed by the DLLs:accessaudio_filteraudio_mixeraudio_outputcodecd3d11d3d9demuxkeystoreloggerluameta_enginemiscpacketizerstream_extractorstream_filtertext_renderervideo_chromavideo_outputaccess\libdvdnav_plugin.dllaccess\libfilesystem_plugin.dllaccess\libhttps_plugin.dllaccess\liblibbluray_plugin.dllaccess\libvdr_plugin.dllaudio_filter\libsamplerate_plugin.dllaudio_filter\libscaletempo_plugin.dllaudio_mixer\libfloat_mixer_plugin.dllaudio_output\libdirectsound_plugin.dllaudio_output\libmmdevice_plugin.dllaudio_output\libwasapi_plugin.dllcodec\libaes3_plugin.dllcodec\libaraw_plugin.dllcodec\libavcodec_plugin.dllcodec\libcdg_plugin.dllcodec\libcvdsub_plugin.dllcodec\libd3d11va_plugin.dllcodec\libfaad_plugin.dllcodec\libflac_plugin.dllcodec\libg711_plugin.dllcodec\libjpeg_plugin.dllcodec\liblpcm_plugin.dllcodec\libmpg123_plugin.dllcodec\liboggspots_plugin.dllcodec\libopus_plugin.dllcodec\libpng_plugin.dllcodec\librawvideo_plugin.dllcodec\libschroedinger_plugin.dllcodec\libspdif_plugin.dllcodec\libspeex_plugin.dllcodec\libspudec_plugin.dllcodec\libsvcdsub_plugin.dllcodec\libtheora_plugin.dllcodec\libvorbis_plugin.dlld3d11\libdirect3d11_filters_plugin.dlld3d9\libdirect3d9_filters_plugin.dlldemux\libasf_plugin.dlldemux\libavi_plugin.dlldemux\libes_plugin.dlldemux\libmp4_plugin.dlldemux\libplaylist_plugin.dllkeystore\libmemory_keystore_plugin.dlllogger\libconsole_logger_plugin.dlllogger\libfile_logger_plugin.dlllua\liblua_plugin.dllmeta_engine\libfolder_plugin.dllmeta_engine\libtaglib_plugin.dllmisc\libgnutls_plugin.dllpacketizer\libpacketizer_dirac_plugin.dllpacketizer\libpacketizer_flac_plugin.dllpacketizer\libpacketizer_h264_plugin.dllpacketizer\libpacketizer_hevc_plugin.dllpacketizer\libpacketizer_mlp_plugin.dllpacketizer\libpacketizer_mpeg4audio_plugin.dllpacketizer\libpacketizer_mpeg4video_plugin.dllpacketizer\libpacketizer_mpegaudio_plugin.dllpacketizer\libpacketizer_mpegvideo_plugin.dllpacketizer\libpacketizer_vc1_plugin.dllstream_extractor\libarchive_plugin.dllstream_filter\libadf_plugin.dllstream_filter\libcache_read_plugin.dllstream_filter\libhds_plugin.dllstream_filter\libinflate_plugin.dllstream_filter\libprefetch_plugin.dllstream_filter\librecord_plugin.dllstream_filter\libskiptags_plugin.dlltext_renderer\libfreetype_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libgrey_yuv_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi420_10_p010_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi420_nv12_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi420_rgb_mmx_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi420_rgb_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi420_rgb_sse2_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi420_yuy2_mmx_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi420_yuy2_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi420_yuy2_sse2_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi422_i420_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi422_yuy2_mmx_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi422_yuy2_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi422_yuy2_sse2_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libswscale_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libyuvp_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libyuy2_i420_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libyuy2_i422_plugin.dllvideo_output\libdirect3d11_plugin.dllvideo_output\libdrawable_plugin.dllvideo_output\libwinhibit_plugin.dllI also just ran the program again in the sandbox. To my amazement, it was instantly and unceremoniously deleted almost immediately. That makes me believe that malwarebytes is now aware that it is, indeed, a threat. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402260/#p402260 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra Update: I missed one program in post 54. It is:* aria2c, The next generation download utility.Curious why that's there too, since Python already has libraries for just this. Also, the program also seems to use libvlc, which is VLC Media Players library for streaming audio. Even stranger...Also, just updated the sandbox to block all internet access. Loading the program yields... nothing. It doesn't even start. Which makes me think it was trying to send some kind of internet command or something when it started, but the sandbox prohibited it. I also have a full list of plugins, with the directories followed by the DLLs:accessaudio_filteraudio_mixeraudio_outputcodecd3d11d3d9demuxkeystoreloggerluameta_enginemiscpacketizerstream_extractorstream_filtertext_renderervideo_chromavideo_outputaccess\libdvdnav_plugin.dllaccess\libfilesystem_plugin.dllaccess\libhttps_plugin.dllaccess\liblibbluray_plugin.dllaccess\libvdr_plugin.dllaudio_filter\libsamplerate_plugin.dllaudio_filter\libscaletempo_plugin.dllaudio_mixer\libfloat_mixer_plugin.dllaudio_output\libdirectsound_plugin.dllaudio_output\libmmdevice_plugin.dllaudio_output\libwasapi_plugin.dllcodec\libaes3_plugin.dllcodec\libaraw_plugin.dllcodec\libavcodec_plugin.dllcodec\libcdg_plugin.dllcodec\libcvdsub_plugin.dllcodec\libd3d11va_plugin.dllcodec\libfaad_plugin.dllcodec\libflac_plugin.dllcodec\libg711_plugin.dllcodec\libjpeg_plugin.dllcodec\liblpcm_plugin.dllcodec\libmpg123_plugin.dllcodec\liboggspots_plugin.dllcodec\libopus_plugin.dllcodec\libpng_plugin.dllcodec\librawvideo_plugin.dllcodec\libschroedinger_plugin.dllcodec\libspdif_plugin.dllcodec\libspeex_plugin.dllcodec\libspudec_plugin.dllcodec\libsvcdsub_plugin.dllcodec\libtheora_plugin.dllcodec\libvorbis_plugin.dlld3d11\libdirect3d11_filters_plugin.dlld3d9\libdirect3d9_filters_plugin.dlldemux\libasf_plugin.dlldemux\libavi_plugin.dlldemux\libes_plugin.dlldemux\libmp4_plugin.dlldemux\libplaylist_plugin.dllkeystore\libmemory_keystore_plugin.dlllogger\libconsole_logger_plugin.dlllogger\libfile_logger_plugin.dlllua\liblua_plugin.dllmeta_engine\libfolder_plugin.dllmeta_engine\libtaglib_plugin.dllmisc\libgnutls_plugin.dllpacketizer\libpacketizer_dirac_plugin.dllpacketizer\libpacketizer_flac_plugin.dllpacketizer\libpacketizer_h264_plugin.dllpacketizer\libpacketizer_hevc_plugin.dllpacketizer\libpacketizer_mlp_plugin.dllpacketizer\libpacketizer_mpeg4audio_plugin.dllpacketizer\libpacketizer_mpeg4video_plugin.dllpacketizer\libpacketizer_mpegaudio_plugin.dllpacketizer\libpacketizer_mpegvideo_plugin.dllpacketizer\libpacketizer_vc1_plugin.dllstream_extractor\libarchive_plugin.dllstream_filter\libadf_plugin.dllstream_filter\libcache_read_plugin.dllstream_filter\libhds_plugin.dllstream_filter\libinflate_plugin.dllstream_filter\libprefetch_plugin.dllstream_filter\librecord_plugin.dllstream_filter\libskiptags_plugin.dlltext_renderer\libfreetype_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libgrey_yuv_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi420_10_p010_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi420_nv12_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi420_rgb_mmx_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi420_rgb_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi420_rgb_sse2_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi420_yuy2_mmx_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi420_yuy2_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi420_yuy2_sse2_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi422_i420_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi422_yuy2_mmx_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi422_yuy2_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libi422_yuy2_sse2_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libswscale_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libyuvp_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libyuy2_i420_plugin.dllvideo_chroma\libyuy2_i422_plugin.dllvideo_output\libdirect3d11_plugin.dllvideo_output\libdrawable_plugin.dllvideo_output\libwinhibit_plugin.dll URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402260/#p402260 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra Update: I missed one program in post 54. It is:* aria2c, The next generation download utility.Curious why that's there too, since Python already has libraries for just this. Also, the program also seems to use libvlc, which is VLC Media Players library for streaming audio. Even stranger...Also, just updated the sandbox to block all internet access. Loading the program yields... nothing. It doesn't even start. Which makes me think it was trying to send some kind of internet command or something when it started, but the sandbox prohibited it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402260/#p402260 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra You know what they say: If it looks like shit, smells like shit, and tastes like shit, then, well.Not sure what the huge fuss is though. if people feel like downloading it and maybe infecting their systems, all power to them. it's their system, not yours. not so sure why people are so heated about it, I'd think a warning would have been enough.I'll definitely be giving this one a pass, though, considering the guy's literally been caught out at distributing malware before and his response was to then frantically say he'd abandon the project, not abandon the project, abandon the project, and subsequently delete a shit tun of posts off his website, which in my book is not particularly confidence boosting. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402254/#p402254 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra I agree with what everyone has said. I have written programs in Python (which this program is written in) and have never, once, received a notification from any antivirus programs I've used or run them through that "hey, this is a virus". I can see how the packing would cause the antivirus software to consider it harmful, but all the software has to do is look at the files the program is extracting to determine what itsdoing. I ran the program in a sandbox, in fact. (Surprisingly, NVDA was able to inject itself into the sandboxed program, which may or may not be a security risk to the system, since if a program managed to inject itself into NVDA,it gets access to the rest of the system; but that's presupposing that this program is capable of breaking out of the sandbox in the first place.) I noticed no unusual or strange behaviors, but I did not run it for a long period of time, perhaps about 1-2 minutes. (I even installed it in the sandbox, to ensure 100-percent complete isolation, in case the setup file contained malicious Pascal code.) What I found, upon exploring the sandbox, was... interesting to say the least. In summary:* This program was written in Python 3.6. I don't know the patch version.* The program had the following programs that it seemed to be a wrapper for in its installation directory:1. ffmpeg, A complete, cross-platform solution to record, convert and stream audio and video.2. ffprobe, apart of ffmpeg, which gathers information from multimedia streams and prints it in human- and machine-readable fashion.3. youtube-dl, a command-line program to download videos from YouTube.com and a few more sites.Strangely, I also found a plugins and locale folder. The locale folders function was obvious to me, but the plugins folder was not. Upon examination, there were well over 30 DLLs and other libraries within that folder, with no obvious function I could determine. Searching the ffmpeg website, it has no concept of plugins, and neither does youtube-dl; in other words, those plugins were not for either program (and youtube-dl and ffmpeg were the only programs it wrapped, besides ffprobe, which is apart of ffmpeg). This makes me even more suspicious, and raises some interesting questions.First, what are those plugins for? Is their source code available to the public? Are they well-known?Second, why are those plugins there? Do they actually serve any function, or are they, in fact, malicious?* Other than that, I found nothing odd (other than the fact that the program was written in Python 3.6, and uses pyinstaller, which is poor obfuscation practices if your trying to hide malware or other forms of harmful software, unless their contained in the "plugins"). Perhaps I'll reinstall it in the sandbox and attempt to decompile it and look at its code. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402253/#p402253 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra warning! I have not! and will not! for I have no need for such utilities, download it. but, let's assume for a second, it has no viruses. or let's assume it does. it doesn't really matter, at least, not for what I'm about to ask. has anyone noticed that NVDA add-ons such as speech master, or hell, even blind extra requested firewall access? I'm far from being a security adviser, hell, uh, I'm running my win7 without antivirus (don't judge) but I know this much. firewall only pops up for incoming connection. and I never allow such apps through mine, ever. so there are a few questions we have to ask ourselves.1) does media extra require firewall access? 2) if it does, why does it?3) did you guys allow it?4) if one doesn't allow it, can the guy still get one's details? that last one, I'm absolutely clueless of, but would be interested to learn of. as for the antivirus bullshit, I won't go into that. everything flags BGT, hell, even things like oh shit were flagged. at one point, think it was avast or AVG, deleted some part of JAWS, leaving it in an unusable state. we will not know whether something is a virus or not, at least we won't know that for 100% certainty. but let's see about my firewall point, if anyone can tell us whether that pops up or not. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402248/#p402248 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra @42, I really don't understand the point of you becoming that much confrontational. agreed, we don't scan each and every program we download, but how many programs do we get alerts for, except for those which are written in bgt scripting language, which in itself is a whole different matter? answer: almost none of them. is this program written in bgt? I really don't think so. if it's written in bgt, then of course, those alerts make sense. but then, it's highly unlikely, too, not because bgt in itself is a scripting language made for games, but because of it's networking limitations. so, if you decide to use it, use it. if you decided to post it here, no problem, either. but if it's malicious in it's intent, then it doesn't really make sense for you to tell the people, who are more experienced and have more knowledge about the Cyber-security than you, and who are trying to, indeed, make the community aware about the threat to "go get a life and be real, come down to Earth". how about you confront the developer of the program, and demand an explaination for these alerts first, and then get back to us with his reply? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402240/#p402240 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra And @42, what do you stand to lose? You're not even a developer of this software, you're just a user. So, one of two outcomes.1. If you yourself fell for this program, well then I will say while no one necessarily deserves that absurdity directed at them persay, you should've read what we've been saying, and if you are confused, just ask.2. If you're friends with ahmad Star and are in kahootz with him and are knowingly being his liaison then shame on you. Judging by your confrontation attitude in post 42, that does imply a bit of bias towards him, but prove me wrong and I will gladly eat my words.Notice how I picked both possibilities, so as not to jump to conclusions. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402241/#p402241 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra And @42, what do you stand to lose? You're not even a developer of this software, you're just a user. So, one of two outcomes.1. If you yourself fell for this program, well then I will say while no one necessarily deserves that absurdity directed at them persay, you should've read what we've been saying, and if you are confused, just ask.2. If you're friends with ahmad Star and are in kahootz with him and are knowingly being his liaison then shame on you.Notice how I picked both possibilities, so as not to jump to conclusions. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402241/#p402241 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra And @42, what do you stand to lose? You're not even a developer of this software, you're just a user. So, one of tow outcomes.1. If you yourself fell for this program, well then I will say while no one necessarily deserves that absurdity directed at them persay, you should've read what we've been saying, and if you are confused, just ask.2. If you're friends with ahmad Star and are in kahootz with him and are knowingly being his liaison then shame on you.Notice how I picked both possibilities, so as not to jump to conclusions. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402241/#p402241 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra @42, I really don't understand the point of you becoming that much confrontational. agreed, we don't scan each and every program we download, but how many programs do we get alerts for, except for those which are written in bgt scripting language, which in itself is a whole different matter? answer: almost none of them. is this program written in bgt? I really don't think so. if it's written in bgt, then of course, those alerts make sense. but then, it's highly unlikely, too, not because bgt in itself is a scripting language made for games, but because of it's networking limitations. so, if you decide to use it, use it. if you decide to post it here, no problem, either. but if it's malicious in it's intent, then it doesn't really make sense for you to tell the people, who are trying to, indeed, make the community aware about the threat to "go get a life and be real, come down to Earth." URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402240/#p402240 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra I love how a lot of you guys don't have a single bit of knowledge about cyber security, and yet you are talking about Media Extra like it's the best program in the world and the developer will do no harm. You've seen the things that Blind Extra could do, and despite this you believe the dev would never hack people based solely on the fact that he said so. What's worse? Two, three, maybe even four people are telling you that this guy is a fraud and we've shown you proof that Media Extra is a virus, and you refuse to believe the evidence we've shown you. Did you know that Ethin is actually a dev, and goes to colledge and is taking computer science and cyber security as a major? I think he knows what he's talking about. So, what have you guys studied for that gives you so much knowledge about this subject? Come to think of it, why do you guys cling to Media Extra like it's the best program the blind community has ever seen, anyway? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402235/#p402235 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra Yeah, @Muslima I don't know if you were around for the Blind Extra shenanigans, but if you weren't you're really not in a position to tell us to shut up and take his software offering as it is. Just because all bgt games, for example, are flagged by antivirus, they are not suspected of containing remote access trojans. If you read the whole thing through, you would have seen that Occamy is not your average virus that screws you over right away, it is a remote-access trojan. So, it gives Ahmad STar access to your computer and he can do whatever he wants, he can keystroke-log, take control of the machine, steal logins, and who knows what else. Plus, are you guys that desperate for a youtube downloader that you are completely blind to the fact there are two, no wait three, much better ones out there that you might've probably already used before? Again, I remind you, Pontes Media Downloader, MusicDL, and Foobar2000 (just streaming but offers the ability to pick up more detail about the youtube vid. So I find it incredibly ironic how folks who are unaware are acting like the software is the first of its kind, and won't even google other more well known options. Well, thank you once again for reconfirming my faith in technological literacy...or lack thereof. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402223/#p402223 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra Hi.@Muslima, well, I usually don't scan every program I download, but if a developer is known for hacking other computers via an NVDA addon, which even has been confirmed by the NVDA comunity, you are bound to get suspicious about that guy.Greetings Moritz. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402219/#p402219 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra Right, the size is suspicious, could not wait for that old argument. Check the size of FFMPEG plus youtube dl and let me know what you find. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402213/#p402213 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra your post made no sense. if you check the facts with that particular type of virus, it is one of the trojans which are likely to damage your pc. if the developer wants people to use his programmes, he could have excluded the viruses, easy enough.plus, the filesize for this programme is 49 mb which is suspicious enough for a video downloading and converting software. moreover, it doesn't need to effect the pc immediately, it can run in the background and up to the mercy of the remote hacker at his own leisure.if anyone wants to technically back the other side, feel free.regards. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402210/#p402210 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra your post made no sense. if you check the facts with that particular type of virus, it is one of the trojans which are likely to damage your pc. if the developer wants people to use his programmes, he could have excluded the viruses, easy enough URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402210/#p402210 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra Hello,Another article on this type of virus, found at this link states as follows.Also check this linkTrojan:Win32/Occamy.C is a threat identified by Microsoft Security Software. This is a typical malware that targets the core system of Windows in order to complete its tasks. Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C was made to execute a series of commands once it gets inside the system. It will gather data like system settings, Windows version, network configuration, and so on. Collected data will be sent to remote attacker for analysis.Threat behavior In general, system will get infected with Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C if malicious code is executed on the computer. Source of this trojan may vary due to the changing ways how it is deployed. Typically, spam email messages disguising as open letter from reputable institution are used to deceive recipients. Body of the message contains enticing phrases that tries to convince user into opening the attached file.Malicious links from social media sites and instant messaging program are also seen as method used in distributing Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C. Illegally distributed software and media materials may also contain code that can lead to the infection of this malware.PayloadIn order to run itself on Windows start-up, Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C will make a copy of itself under system files. Then, registry entry is created to call the file on each Windows boot-up. Apart from that, this malware will also drop non-malicious files on various folders of the compromised PC.Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C occasionally connects to a remote host to execute tasks like the following:◾Notify attacker on the new infection◾Sends gathered data from the infected computer◾Download and execute additional files including an updated version of the trojan◾Accept command from a remote attackerSymptomsThere is not much obvious symptom from this malware. Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C operates silently in the background. However, Microsoft Security Software may alert you on the presence of this trojan.Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C is a malware that can drop malicious files onto the computer, which tend to lock files and demand payment from users in order to regain access. Some security programs deemed this threat as a Ransomware with that causes high potential damage.This Trojan will drop the following files:C:\Users\Username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INet Cache\IE\MIPY49MB\MicrosoftSecurity[1].exe C:\ProgramData\update.exe C:\Users\Username\AppData\LocalLow\Microsoft\Cryptnet Url Cache\Content\5CEA8CFB8047B569B331D0E79D28457DAliases: Trojan-Ransom.Win32.Blocker.kqwj, Ransom.HiddenTear, Win32.Occamyfrom second article:Occamy.C falls under the Trojan umbrella. It’s a dreadful application. One that slithers its way into your system via trickery and finesse. Then, once it settles, corrupts it. Not long after the tool invades, it begins to wreak havoc. You face a multitude of grievances on a daily basis. Among the scariest of issues, you encounter, is the privacy risk. Yes, the Trojan threatens your private life. It follows instructions to spy on you from the moment it infiltrates. And, so it does. The tool starts its espionage upon invasion. It monitors your browsing habits, and records everything you do. It keeps track of your every online move. Then, once it determines it has collected enough data, sends it. It hands it over to the unknown people behind it. The cyber criminals with questionable intentions that published it. Those are the individuals, who get access to your sensitive details. Trojans don’t make for good company. Neither does Occamy.C. The tool throws you into a whirlwind of troubles. After it sneaks into your system undetected, it makes its presence known. How? Well, it begins to meddle. The infection is immensely intrusive. At the very least, it ruins your online experience. Every time, you browse the web, it makes sure to interrupt. It bombards you with banner, in-text, and pop-up ads. As well as, redirects you to suspicious sites. And, nothing you see is reliable or trustworthy. So, click nothing. To press even a single pop-up, is to set yourself up for further grievances. Furthermore, don’t think the incessant interference goes unnoticed. Due to the Trojan’s presence, your PC starts to suffer frequent crashes. Your computer’s performance slows down to a crawl, too. But don’t think the Trojan’s touch is limited to your browsing, alone. Oh, no. The hazardous tool spreads its nastiness throughout. It has the ability to perform changes on your system. It reshuffles settings, even installs programs. Oh, yes. You can find your default homepage replaced. Or, discover your PC home to a plethora of malicious applications. You face a severe malware threat. Couple that with the grave security issue, and it’s given. The Occamy.C has NO place on your computer. Delete it the first chance you get. Its prompt removal earns you a peace of mind. And, the gratitude of your future self. URL: http
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra Hello,Let#s say that this program is a virus and gathering data about our network settings, pc settings etc. What will Ahmed Sattar do with those information? I have used this program and saw no viruses. The developer says taht his intention was not to develop viruses. If we believe what ms defender/ms security essentials say, then all of the games that are developed with bgt contain some kind of virus and they have to be removed immediately, but we all know that those game#s don`t actually contain viruses. So I think we should think again.Thank you URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402208/#p402208 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra Hello,Another article on this type of virus, found at this link states as follows.Also check this linkTrojan:Win32/Occamy.C is a threat identified by Microsoft Security Software. This is a typical malware that targets the core system of Windows in order to complete its tasks. Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C was made to execute a series of commands once it gets inside the system. It will gather data like system settings, Windows version, network configuration, and so on. Collected data will be sent to remote attacker for analysis.Threat behavior In general, system will get infected with Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C if malicious code is executed on the computer. Source of this trojan may vary due to the changing ways how it is deployed. Typically, spam email messages disguising as open letter from reputable institution are used to deceive recipients. Body of the message contains enticing phrases that tries to convince user into opening the attached file.Malicious links from social media sites and instant messaging program are also seen as method used in distributing Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C. Illegally distributed software and media materials may also contain code that can lead to the infection of this malware.PayloadIn order to run itself on Windows start-up, Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C will make a copy of itself under system files. Then, registry entry is created to call the file on each Windows boot-up. Apart from that, this malware will also drop non-malicious files on various folders of the compromised PC.Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C occasionally connects to a remote host to execute tasks like the following:◾Notify attacker on the new infection◾Sends gathered data from the infected computer◾Download and execute additional files including an updated version of the trojan◾Accept command from a remote attackerSymptomsThere is not much obvious symptom from this malware. Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C operates silently in the background. However, Microsoft Security Software may alert you on the presence of this trojan.Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C is a malware that can drop malicious files onto the computer, which tend to lock files and demand payment from users in order to regain access. Some security programs deemed this threat as a Ransomware with that causes high potential damage.This Trojan will drop the following files:C:\Users\Username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INet Cache\IE\MIPY49MB\MicrosoftSecurity[1].exe C:\ProgramData\update.exe C:\Users\Username\AppData\LocalLow\Microsoft\Cryptnet Url Cache\Content\5CEA8CFB8047B569B331D0E79D28457DAliases: Trojan-Ransom.Win32.Blocker.kqwj, Ransom.HiddenTear, Win32.Occamyfrom second article:Occamy.C falls under the Trojan umbrella. It’s a dreadful application. One that slithers its way into your system via trickery and finesse. Then, once it settles, corrupts it. Not long after the tool invades, it begins to wreak havoc. You face a multitude of grievances on a daily basis. Among the scariest of issues, you encounter, is the privacy risk. Yes, the Trojan threatens your private life. It follows instructions to spy on you from the moment it infiltrates. And, so it does. The tool starts its espionage upon invasion. It monitors your browsing habits, and records everything you do. It keeps track of your every online move. Then, once it determines it has collected enough data, sends it. It hands it over to the unknown people behind it. The cyber criminals with questionable intentions that published it. Those are the individuals, who get access to your sensitive details. Trojans don’t make for good company. Neither does Occamy.C. The tool throws you into a whirlwind of troubles. After it sneaks into your system undetected, it makes its presence known. How? Well, it begins to meddle. The infection is immensely intrusive. At the very least, it ruins your online experience. Every time, you browse the web, it makes sure to interrupt. It bombards you with banner, in-text, and pop-up ads. As well as, redirects you to suspicious sites. And, nothing you see is reliable or trustworthy. So, click nothing. To press even a single pop-up, is to set yourself up for further grievances. Furthermore, don’t think the incessant interference goes unnoticed. Due to the Trojan’s presence, your PC starts to suffer frequent crashes. Your computer’s performance slows down to a crawl, too. But don’t think the Trojan’s touch is limited to your browsing, alone. Oh, no. The hazardous tool spreads its nastiness throughout. It has the ability to perform changes on your system. It reshuffles settings, even installs programs. Oh, yes. You can find your default homepage replaced. Or, discover your PC home to a plethora of malicious applications. You face a severe malware threat. Couple that with the grave security issue, and it’s given. The Occamy.C has NO place on your computer. Delete it the first chance you get. Its prompt removal earns you a peace of mind. And, the gratitude of your future self. URL: http
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra Hello,Another article on this type of virus, found at this link states as follows.Also check this linkTrojan:Win32/Occamy.C is a threat identified by Microsoft Security Software. This is a typical malware that targets the core system of Windows in order to complete its tasks. Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C was made to execute a series of commands once it gets inside the system. It will gather data like system settings, Windows version, network configuration, and so on. Collected data will be sent to remote attacker for analysis.Threat behavior In general, system will get infected with Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C if malicious code is executed on the computer. Source of this trojan may vary due to the changing ways how it is deployed. Typically, spam email messages disguising as open letter from reputable institution are used to deceive recipients. Body of the message contains enticing phrases that tries to convince user into opening the attached file.Malicious links from social media sites and instant messaging program are also seen as method used in distributing Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C. Illegally distributed software and media materials may also contain code that can lead to the infection of this malware.PayloadIn order to run itself on Windows start-up, Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C will make a copy of itself under system files. Then, registry entry is created to call the file on each Windows boot-up. Apart from that, this malware will also drop non-malicious files on various folders of the compromised PC.Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C occasionally connects to a remote host to execute tasks like the following:◾Notify attacker on the new infection◾Sends gathered data from the infected computer◾Download and execute additional files including an updated version of the trojan◾Accept command from a remote attackerSymptomsThere is not much obvious symptom from this malware. Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C operates silently in the background. However, Microsoft Security Software may alert you on the presence of this trojan.Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C is a malware that can drop malicious files onto the computer, which tend to lock files and demand payment from users in order to regain access. Some security programs deemed this threat as a Ransomware with that causes high potential damage.This Trojan will drop the following files:C:\Users\Username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INet Cache\IE\MIPY49MB\MicrosoftSecurity[1].exe C:\ProgramData\update.exe C:\Users\Username\AppData\LocalLow\Microsoft\Cryptnet Url Cache\Content\5CEA8CFB8047B569B331D0E79D28457DAliases: Trojan-Ransom.Win32.Blocker.kqwj, Ransom.HiddenTear, Win32.Occamy URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402205/#p402205 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra Hello,A further article on this type of virus, found at this link states as follows.Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C is a threat identified by Microsoft Security Software. This is a typical malware that targets the core system of Windows in order to complete its tasks. Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C was made to execute a series of commands once it gets inside the system. It will gather data like system settings, Windows version, network configuration, and so on. Collected data will be sent to remote attacker for analysis.Threat behavior In general, system will get infected with Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C if malicious code is executed on the computer. Source of this trojan may vary due to the changing ways how it is deployed. Typically, spam email messages disguising as open letter from reputable institution are used to deceive recipients. Body of the message contains enticing phrases that tries to convince user into opening the attached file.Malicious links from social media sites and instant messaging program are also seen as method used in distributing Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C. Illegally distributed software and media materials may also contain code that can lead to the infection of this malware.PayloadIn order to run itself on Windows start-up, Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C will make a copy of itself under system files. Then, registry entry is created to call the file on each Windows boot-up. Apart from that, this malware will also drop non-malicious files on various folders of the compromised PC.Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C occasionally connects to a remote host to execute tasks like the following:◾Notify attacker on the new infection◾Sends gathered data from the infected computer◾Download and execute additional files including an updated version of the trojan◾Accept command from a remote attackerSymptomsThere is not much obvious symptom from this malware. Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C operates silently in the background. However, Microsoft Security Software may alert you on the presence of this trojan.Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C is a malware that can drop malicious files onto the computer, which tend to lock files and demand payment from users in order to regain access. Some security programs deemed this threat as a Ransomware with that causes high potential damage.This Trojan will drop the following files:C:\Users\Username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\INet Cache\IE\MIPY49MB\MicrosoftSecurity[1].exe C:\ProgramData\update.exe C:\Users\Username\AppData\LocalLow\Microsoft\Cryptnet Url Cache\Content\5CEA8CFB8047B569B331D0E79D28457DAliases: Trojan-Ransom.Win32.Blocker.kqwj, Ransom.HiddenTear, Win32.Occamy URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402205/#p402205 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
hello,I just wanted to chime in here and put my own experience. apart from self-claimed geeks and nirds going over countless reports from virustotal and momentarily disagreeing about the expected reliability of windows defender on one of the latest windows version, let me share what I found.As a matter of fact, i've been using microsoft security essentials here on a windows 7 pc since last 4 years, and it didn't disappoint me to say the least. it has not only removed malicious trojans and roots found on rogue usb drives, but also flagged files from eurofly, other zipped games including sbyw, and other legitimate files as viruses. sometimes, I had no choice but to disable the antivirus for making a certain programme work. to say the least, microsoft security essentials would be considered as one of the most basic antivirus programmes out there, nevermind the ones with advanced security features.so, on one such evening, I decided to turn the antivirus off and download the programme. what occured afterwards is beyond me, as an alert from mse crept up, even while it was turned off, showing the below pasted outcome.Trojan:Win32/Occamy.B; Alert level: Severe; Status: Active; Recommended action: RemoveCategory: TrojanDescription: This program is dangerous and executes commands from an attacker.Recommended action: Remove this software immediately.Items: containerfile:C:\Users\user\Downloads\Programs\MediaExtra-v4.0.exefile:C:\Users\user\Downloads\Programs\MediaExtra-v4.0.exe->(inno#09)Get more information about this item online.well, surprising enough. imagine mse being turned on, it wouldn't have allowed the download at first place. also, I would like to urge you guys to research about this particular form of trojan compared to the jibberish pasted in above posts.I wanted a similar programme with youtube downloading and converting capabilities, but coming from one of the most basic antivirus, one can't be sure anymore.p.s. if one of you have anything contrary, please prove the same.edit: a basic search about occamy trojan gave out the following, although i'd still urge you guys to search about this particular virus as much as possible.Occamy is a trojan-type virus detected by most anti-virus/anti-spyware suites. It is designed to be controlled remotely - the developer decides which actions Occamy performs. Anti-virus/anti-spyware suites typically name this malware "Trojan:Win32/Occamy.B" or "Trojan:Win32/Occamy.C". Note also that Occamy's process ("nc.exe") is listed in Windows Task Manager, thus making it easier to detect.As mentioned above, Occamy is controlled remotely by the developer. In each case, its behavior may differ. Most trojan-type viruses gather information, infiltrate other malware into the system, and connect victims' computers to various botnets. Trojan-type viruses record information such as saved logins/passwords, mouse/keyboard activity, web browsing activity, and geo-locations. This sensitive data is misused to generate revenue (via money transfers, online purchases, identity thefts, etc.) Some trojans are also capable of hijacking web cams and microphones to capture "embarrassing" moments (e.g., user masturbating, etc). Cyber criminals then use compromising photos/videos to blackmail victims. As mentioned above, trojans are also likely to proliferate other malware. In most cases, trojans proliferate ransomware - a high-risk virus that encrypts data (or corrupts the system in other ways) and demands a ransom in exchange for reverting the changes. Fortunately, most reputable anti-virus/anti-spyware suites are capable of detecting and removing Occamy malware. Therefore, if you believe that your computer is infected with Occamy, immediately perform a full system scan and eliminate all detected threats.regards.
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra hello,I just wanted to chime in here and put my own experience. apart from self-claimed geeks and nirds going over countless reports from virustotal and momentarily disagreeing about the expected reliability of windows defender on one of the latest windows version, let me share what I found.As a matter of fact, i've been using microsoft security essentials here on a windows 7 pc since last 4 years, and it didn't disappoint me to say the least. it has not only removed malicious trojans and roots found on rogue usb drives, but also flagged files from eurofly, other zipped games including sbyw, and other legitimate files as viruses. sometimes, I had no choice but to disable the antivirus for making a certain programme work. to say the least, microsoft security essentials would be considered as one of the most basic antivirus programmes out there, nevermind the ones with advanced security features.so, on one such evening, I decided to turn the antivirus off and download the programme. what occured afterwards is beyond me, as an alert from mse crept up, even while it was turned off, showing the below pasted outcome.Trojan:Win32/Occamy.B; Alert level: Severe; Status: Active; Recommended action: RemoveCategory: TrojanDescription: This program is dangerous and executes commands from an attacker.Recommended action: Remove this software immediately.Items: containerfile:C:\Users\user\Downloads\Programs\MediaExtra-v4.0.exefile:C:\Users\user\Downloads\Programs\MediaExtra-v4.0.exe->(inno#09)Get more information about this item online.well, surprising enough. imagine mse being turned on, it wouldn't have allowed the download at first place. also, I would like to urge you guys to research about this particular form of trojan compared to the jibberish pasted in above posts.I wanted a similar programme with youtube downloading and converting capabilities, but coming from one of the most basic antivirus, one can't be sure anymore.p.s. if one of you have anything contrary, please prove the same.regards. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402199/#p402199 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra hello,I just wanted to chime in here and put my own experience. apart from self-claimed geeks and nirds going over countless reports from virustotal and momentarily disagreeing about the expected reliability of windows defender on one of the latest windows version, let me share what I found.As a matter of fact, i've been using microsoft security essentials here on a windows 7 pc since last 4 years, and it didn't disappoint me to say the least. it has not only removed malicious trojans and roots found on rogue usb drives, but also flagged files from eurofly, other zipped games including sbyw, and other legitimate files as viruses. sometimes, I had no choice but to disable the antivirus for making a certain programme work. to say the least, microsoft security essentials would be considered as one of the most basic antivirus programmes out there, nevermind the ones with advanced security features.so, on one such evening, I decided to turn the antivirus off and download the programme. what occured afterwards is beyond me, as an alert from mse crept up, even while it was turned off, showing the below pasted outcome.Trojan:Win32/Occamy.B; Alert level: Severe; Status: Active; Recommended action: RemoveCategory: TrojanDescription: This program is dangerous and executes commands from an attacker.Recommended action: Remove this software immediately.Items: containerfile:C:\Users\user\Downloads\Programs\MediaExtra-v4.0.exefile:C:\Users\user\Downloads\Programs\MediaExtra-v4.0.exe->(inno#09)Get more information about this item online.well, surprising enough. imagine mse being turned on, it wouldn't have allowed the download at first place. also, I would like to urge you guys to research about this particular form of trojan compared of the jibberish pasted in above posts.I wanted a similar programme with youtube downloading and converting capabilities, but coming from one of the most basic antivirus, one can't be sure anymore.p.s. if one of you have anything contrary, please prove the same.regards. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402199/#p402199 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra so guys, program developer wants make happy all you, and he don't needs make virus programs, and he is making all free programs. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402195/#p402195 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra Ok, as long as I wanted to stay cool and positive, this won't happen.Now, tell me how many of you actually scan every program you use?I will tell you. Most of the programs you download and use you don't scan.I am not believing the false stories and NVDA reports because I have used all the programs of this developer.Just because he works alone doesn't mean that you have the right to make a drama movie out of it. Thank you for the great TV series, but I already watch enough of them. Instead of saying what is a virus and how not to use it, go get a life and be real, come down to Earth. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402193/#p402193 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra Hi.@Ethin, hmm ok, makes sense though.I am not gonna ask why every anti virus program flags BGT programs as a virus, i suppose this only would be explanable in programers terms that i wouldn't even comprehend in any shape or form.If not, one or two sentences why these things are getting flagged or a link to a topic where this gets explained would be awesome to have.Greetings Moritz. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402154/#p402154 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra @39, supposed to be, you know. It... definitely isn't. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402146/#p402146 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra It is kind of concerning how Windows Defender Security Center -- which claims to be the latest and the best of the best antivirus, antimalware and antispyware program from Microsoft running on the latest Windows10 build didn't detect it as malicious. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402103/#p402103 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra @37, I don't know what those are. I usually get suspicious if big names -- at least the ones I know and have worked with before -- like Sophos, Malwarebytes, AVAST, and AVG all give a true positive. I don't check if they all do, but the more that detect it the more suspicious I get. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402054/#p402054 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra Hi.@Ethin, so, when should I get suspecious of a file which I upload.Currently, I check if AVG, Avast, Avira, GData and Kaspersky find any results, are there any more legitimate anti virus programs out there?And what are these unknown ones like trapmine, fProd and what not?Greetings Moritz. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402051/#p402051 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra @nidza07, first, post 22 is where the reference was made. Second, I'm now running the actually installed program (in a sandbox) through virus total. It returns... 22 out of 70. That's a 31.42 percent detection, out of a mere 16.66 or so percent for TGTR. That's an approximate 14.76 percent increase. Not much, eh? Until you look at some of these... Ad-Aware, ALYac, Antiy-AVL, Arcabit, BitDefender, CAT-QuickHeal, Cybereason, Cyren, Emsisoft, eScan, F-Prot, F-Secure, GData, Jiangmin, MAX, McAfee-GW-Edition, Rising, SentinelOne, Symantec, Trapmine, VBA32, and Yandex. Here are the good ol results:SHA-2567c31be397073f5772562a1a27a3b11a1bb7f5a4bce77ed7eec117065340043f1File nameMediaExtra.exeFile size3.58 MBLast analysis2018-12-30 22:00:18 UTCDetectionDetailsCommunityAd-AwareGen:Variant.Ransom.1166ALYacGen:Variant.Ransom.1166Antiy-AVLTrojan[Backdoor]/MSIL.SpyGateArcabitTrojan.Ransom.D48EBitDefenderGen:Variant.Ransom.1166CAT-QuickHealTrojan.IGENERICCybereasonmalicious.6b84b7CyrenW32/S-513ec574!EldoradoEmsisoftGen:Variant.Ransom.1166 (B)eScanGen:Variant.Ransom.1166F-ProtW32/S-513ec574!EldoradoF-SecureGen:Variant.Ransom.1166GDataGen:Variant.Ransom.1166JiangminTrojan.Agent.bphfMAXmalware (ai score=80)McAfee-GW-EditionBehavesLike.Win32.HToolLazagne.wcRisingMalware.Heuristic.MLite(100%) (AI-LITE:DQAy+gq94eZuILl0D7R0hQ)SentinelOnestatic engine - maliciousSymantecML.Attribute.HighConfidenceTrapminesuspicious.low.ml.scoreVBA32Trojan.AgentYandexTrojan.Agent!jKOS93FSwZwAcronisCleanAegisLabCleanAhnLab-V3CleanAlibabaCleanAvastCleanAvast Mobile SecurityCleanAVGCleanAviraCleanBabableCleanBaiduCleanBkavCleanClamAVCleanCMCCleanComodoCleanCrowdStrike FalconCleanCylanceCleanDrWebCleaneGambitCleanEndgameCleanESET-NOD32CleanFortinetCleanIkarusCleanK7AntiVirusCleanK7GWCleanKasperskyCleanKingsoftCleanMalwarebytesCleanMcAfeeCleanMicrosoftCleanNANO-AntivirusCleanPalo Alto NetworksCleanPandaCleanQihoo-360CleanSophos AVCleanSophos MLCleanSUPERAntiSpywareCleanTACHYONCleanTencentCleanTheHackerCleanTrendMicroCleanTrendMicro-HouseCallCleanTrustlookCleanVIPRECleanViRobotCleanWebrootCleanZillyaCleanZoneAlarmCleanZonerCleanSymantec Mobile InsightUnable to process file typeYou can find all the info at https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/7c31b … 5340043f1. Also, it seems this app was written in Python, Python 3.6, to be exact. So, that's even more evidence to suggest -- with an even higher rate of confidence -- that this is malicious. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402050/#p402050 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra Ok, folks. So here's the scoop. For real this time, all obvious meme and jokes aside.The developer of Media Extra, who by the way is really combining already-existing software into one for convenience sake, is known for a remote access trojen called Blind Extra. First, let's get Media Extra out of the way. What it would be, without the possible strings attached.Downloading video content: Youtube Dl, so for that you have Pontes Media Downloader, Foobar2000 (streams) and the newer MusicDl, indeed a gui frontend to Youtube DL itself.Combining a raw audio with still photos: www.tunestotube.com does that, and even uploads the video to Youtube for you, bypassing the drag that is Youtube's own upload page. Only restriction is there's a visual tunestotube.com watermark laced into your videos unless you donate a few bucks, which is totally fair.Finding the media in an article? Ok, admittedly useful, but there are external sources that can do just that.Now that we've got that out of the way, let's talk about Blind Extra.Imagine, an addon that has two obviously cracked synthesizers, available for download out in the open, with a dedicated download wizard? Too good to be true, and there sure are strings attached.The addon has numerous security holes which will be described, but let's get one thing straight. This whole thing does not use Nvda's core api, at all. The addon, if it can even be called that, uses urllib/urlib2/webbrowser to download some files, presumably the voice data, but not before making sure to delete the Python source for the addon. As we knew before, it has some odd compiled batch scripts and *some* readable python code. And to top it all, it does not use proper l10n methods and reads like a rough transcription from another language. Could it just be exe's that are running the voices, and it isn't going through nvda's speech module at all? Well in short, this so-called addon is nothing short of a collection of programs, not in any way communicating to nvda. How do you know it's a program? It has a whole damn gui loop! Granted some addons have dialogues, look at ntm for example, and addons like that have *one* executable to launch. But this addon? Completely unpythonic, goes way beyond an nvda addon into who knows what.So with that said, knowing this guy's reputation, I'd steer clear of media extra. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402049/#p402049 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra Yeah, I would stop trying to make excuses for this guy. To get people up to speed, here's a little history on Blind Extra's escapades.Once upon a time, in the year 2016 a d, there was an nvda addon called Blind Extra. Blind Extra was a collection of our beloved synthesizers, Acapela and Vocalizer, distributed for free, spread far and wide, packaged in a nice downloader for everyone's...convenience?No blind man, woman or child could resist the call of free stuf so they all flocked on mass to download the addon. The code took hold, infecting and spreading from device to device while the huskey tones of Ava whispered in their eares that everything was all right. The code gained strength, quietly waiting in the shadowy parts of cyberspace, sealing bank details, spreading further. It conquered skype, TeamTalk, teamspeak and everyone's favorite MOOs. On December 31st, 2016 at 11:59 PM the malware, evolved beyond all recognition by this point infected and took control of a prototype mech that was basically a carbon copy of metal gear rex. After powering the weapons, configuring the speakers to play an endless stream of Rick Astley songs for all to heare, The code went on a bloody rampage, murdering it's creater and installing it's self in the whitehouse where it brainwashed the U.S government with the promis of all the cocaine they could ever dream of snorting. The population of the world fell next, implanted with a number of devices that made them all believe they were living back in the 1980s where there was only one version of ghost busters, and starwars was glorious. Completely unhindered and With a population that lived to serve, the code formerally known as blind extra built and refined technology at an alarming rate. Turning it's sights to space, it spread through the universe, conquering planet after planet until the entire universe sounded like one giant 80s nightclub. Meanwhile, in an undisclosed part of the world, a man awoke in a darkened apartment his mind completely free of the 80s. He was, however, suffering one of the most brutal hangovers ever known in the entire history of hangovers. Will he have what it takes to save the world? Find out on the next episode of... Blind. Extra! Escape. From. The. 80s!***Before i go and explain the real problem with Blind Extra in another post in case you tldr folks didn't make it through this whole thing, credit to Exodus for that wonderfully made bit of comedy fromthis thread right here URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402045/#p402045 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra Man, the one who is so arrogant and tells others to read does not read. Can you find where he hacked somebody with get extra? I only saw the info for blind extra, and even that is not hacking. Also, what is your opinion on the fact that the great toy robbery, on it's arrival, was detected by that same, highly accurate AVG? And it remained so until a forum member reported it as a false positive. Trust common sense, not antiviruses. The only one I can actually highly recommend is malwarebites as it did not really have much false positives for me. Also, no, you never directly said those others are inaccurate, and I never said you said so. However, if you say that 8 out of 60 detect it and they are pretty accurate, it is a logical conclusion that compared to them those others are weak and inaccurate. Again, I personally do not have much good to say about this particular developer either, but you simply cannot say at the moment that this program is dangerous. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402042/#p402042 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra @nidza07, I've written programs in C, C++, BGT, Python, PureBASIC, Go, and so on. The only one that makes my AV program go haywire is BGT. And I significantly doubt that Media Extra was written in BGT.Second, did I ever say that those that didn't pick it up were 'inaccurate'? No. Stop making assumptions for once and actually learn to *read*. No, I don't expect every developer to give me their source code so I can determine for myself whether its a virus or not. But when someone like this guy posts something and he's well-known for the Blind Extra add-on for NVDA, and hacked someone using Get Extra, you can see my paranoia and understand it. Though, considering how you've been quite happy to misunderstand and misinterpret what I've posted, I doubt you would. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402038/#p402038 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra Oh so 80 or 85 percent chance, but those other 60 engines which do not detect it are all inaccurate? How interesting. If 8 detect it and 60 don't, that says something. Now you ask the developer for a proof. First, the developer never said anything on here. Second, do you expect every developer to give you their sources just to prove that it's not a virus? Well, that never happens. As for the example with your programs, you probably develop them in a popular enough language. Go make a BGT script, an autoit one, a batch to exe converter or almost any scripting language and tell me what you get. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402033/#p402033 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra @29, that's quite surprising, since NVDA was written in Python as well and nothing identified it. I'm downloading it now to upload it...OK, scan just completed. I wonder of the integrity of your post; I just scanned the setup file and only got one engine (Antiy-AVL, which identified it as Trojan[Backdoor]/MSIL.SpyGate). The rest -- in particular, AVAST, AVAST Mobile Security, BitDefender, and Malwarebytes -- all showed 'clean'. Installing the file, 11 engines detected it. But if you run NvDA through it, nothing shows. The ones that detected it as supposedly 'malicious' were: Antiy-AVL (Trojan[Backdoor]/MSIL.SpyGate), Jiangmin (Trojan.Agent.bphf), K7AntiVirus (Trojan ( 0053f8c91 )), K7GW (Trojan ( 0053f8c91 )), McAfee-GW-Edition (BehavesLike.Win32.Generic.wc), Rising (Malware.Heuristic.MLite(98%) (AI-LITE:NxA9u2TGeZyAKwptw+NnHA)), SentinelOne (static engine - malicious), Sophos ML (heuristic), Trapmine (suspicious.low.ml.score), VBA32 (Trojan.Agent), and Yandex (Trojan.Agent!jKOS93FSwZw). None of the big names like AVG, AVAST, or Malwarebytes detected it as harmful, which nullifies the theory that all antivirus software claims everything is a virus until they know more about it.But digging deeper, we find basic info:MD5fe234789b1e5c457e306717a9e50d4c8SHA-1c3017cfb12b933a348d5b788ab54eeae04001e40Authentihashc08bd482c4b5e9b49cd9098ed12e5844e6e172605c73281bd7dc368b571e076fImphash91ae93ed3ff0d6f8a4f22d2edd30a58eFile TypeWin32 EXEMagicPE32 executable for MS Windows (GUI) Intel 80386 32-bitSSDeep393216:rvbTA80XXZOg/wCteW6EWVqsWN4UdIbgSDlDhnLxOuyhV79g9X:rvbU805/teVqsW6ESDzLxOHVRITRiDInstallShield setup (49%)Win64 Executable (generic) (31.4%)Win32 Dynamic Link Library (generic) (7.4%)Win32 Executable (generic) (5.1%)OS/2 Executable (generic) (2.3%)File Size15.65 MBCreation Time2018-09-04 14:43:33First Submission2018-12-28 11:03:13Last Submission2018-12-28 11:03:13Last Analysis2018-12-28 11:03:13VirusTotal Sandbox:Files OpenedC:\e65df33d5b017c04eecf35cc90397854860c0730f4d6d0c22cf862cdec895d49C:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\CryptodomeC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\CipherC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_ARC4.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_Salsa20.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_chacha20.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_aes.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_aesni.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_arc2.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_blowfish.cp37-win32.pydFiles ReadC:\e65df33d5b017c04eecf35cc90397854860c0730f4d6d0c22cf862cdec895d49C:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_chacha20.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_arc2.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_blowfish.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Util\_strxor.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\SDL.dllC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\SDL_image.dllC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\SDL_ttf.dllC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\VCRUNTIME140.dllC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\_contextvars.pydFiles WrittenC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_ARC4.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_Salsa20.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_chacha20.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_aes.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_aesni.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_blowfish.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_cast.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_cfb.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_des.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_ecb.cp37-win32.pydFiles DeletedC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\base_library.zipC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\certifi\cacert.pemC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\classes.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_ARC4.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_chacha20.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_aes.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_aesni.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_arc2.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_blowfish.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_cast.cp37-win32.pyd Process And Service ActionsProcesses
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra @29, that's quite surprising, since NVDA was written in Python as well and nothing identified it. I'm downloading it now to upload it...OK, scan just completed. I wonder of the integrity of your post; I just scanned the setup file and only got one engine (Antiy-AVL, which identified it as Trojan[Backdoor]/MSIL.SpyGate). The rest -- in particular, AVAST, AVAST Mobile Security, BitDefender, and Malwarebytes -- all showed 'clean'. Installing the file, 11 engines detected it. But if you run NvDA through it, nothing shows. The ones that detected it as supposedly 'malicious' were: Antiy-AVL (Trojan[Backdoor]/MSIL.SpyGate), Jiangmin (Trojan.Agent.bphf), K7AntiVirus (Trojan ( 0053f8c91 )), K7GW (Trojan ( 0053f8c91 )), McAfee-GW-Edition (BehavesLike.Win32.Generic.wc), Rising (Malware.Heuristic.MLite(98%) (AI-LITE:NxA9u2TGeZyAKwptw+NnHA)), SentinelOne (static engine - malicious), Sophos ML (heuristic), Trapmine (suspicious.low.ml.score), VBA32 (Trojan.Agent), and Yandex (Trojan.Agent!jKOS93FSwZw). None of the big names like AVG, AVAST, or Malwarebytes detected it as harmful, which nullifies the theory that all antivirus software claims everything is a virus until they know more about it.But digging deeper, we find basic info:MD5fe234789b1e5c457e306717a9e50d4c8SHA-1c3017cfb12b933a348d5b788ab54eeae04001e40Authentihashc08bd482c4b5e9b49cd9098ed12e5844e6e172605c73281bd7dc368b571e076fImphash91ae93ed3ff0d6f8a4f22d2edd30a58eFile TypeWin32 EXEMagicPE32 executable for MS Windows (GUI) Intel 80386 32-bitSSDeep393216:rvbTA80XXZOg/wCteW6EWVqsWN4UdIbgSDlDhnLxOuyhV79g9X:rvbU805/teVqsW6ESDzLxOHVRITRiDInstallShield setup (49%)Win64 Executable (generic) (31.4%)Win32 Dynamic Link Library (generic) (7.4%)Win32 Executable (generic) (5.1%)OS/2 Executable (generic) (2.3%)File Size15.65 MBCreation Time2018-09-04 14:43:33First Submission2018-12-28 11:03:13Last Submission2018-12-28 11:03:13Last Analysis2018-12-28 11:03:13VirusTotal Sandbox:Files OpenedC:\e65df33d5b017c04eecf35cc90397854860c0730f4d6d0c22cf862cdec895d49C:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\CryptodomeC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\CipherC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_ARC4.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_Salsa20.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_chacha20.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_aes.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_aesni.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_arc2.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_blowfish.cp37-win32.pydFiles ReadC:\e65df33d5b017c04eecf35cc90397854860c0730f4d6d0c22cf862cdec895d49C:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_chacha20.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_arc2.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_blowfish.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Util\_strxor.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\SDL.dllC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\SDL_image.dllC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\SDL_ttf.dllC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\VCRUNTIME140.dllC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\_contextvars.pydFiles WrittenC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_ARC4.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_Salsa20.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_chacha20.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_aes.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_aesni.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_blowfish.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_cast.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_cfb.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_des.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_ecb.cp37-win32.pydFiles DeletedC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\base_library.zipC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\certifi\cacert.pemC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\classes.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_ARC4.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_chacha20.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_aes.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_aesni.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_arc2.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_blowfish.cp37-win32.pydC:\DOCUME~1\~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\_MEI14082\Cryptodome\Cipher\_raw_cast.cp37-win32.pyd Process And Service ActionsProcesses
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra @29, that's quite surprising, since NVDA was written in Python as well and nothing identified it. I'm downloading it now to upload it...OK, scan just completed. I wonder of the integrity of your post; I just scanned the setup file and only got one engine (Antiy-AVL, which identified it as Trojan[Backdoor]/MSIL.SpyGate). The rest -- in particular, AVAST, AVAST Mobile Security, BitDefender, and Malwarebytes -- all showed 'clean'. Installing the file, 11 engines detected it. But if you run NvDA through it, nothing shows. The ones that detected it as supposedly 'malicious' were: Antiy-AVL (Trojan[Backdoor]/MSIL.SpyGate), Jiangmin (Trojan.Agent.bphf), K7AntiVirus (Trojan ( 0053f8c91 )), K7GW (Trojan ( 0053f8c91 )), McAfee-GW-Edition (BehavesLike.Win32.Generic.wc), Rising (Malware.Heuristic.MLite(98%) (AI-LITE:NxA9u2TGeZyAKwptw+NnHA)), SentinelOne (static engine - malicious), Sophos ML (heuristic), Trapmine (suspicious.low.ml.score), VBA32 (Trojan.Agent), and Yandex (Trojan.Agent!jKOS93FSwZw). None of the big names like AVG, AVAST, or Malwarebytes detected it as harmful, which nullifies the theory that all antivirus software claims everything is a virus until they know more about it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402031/#p402031 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra Hi.@Ethin, thanks for the explanations, I due have one question though.For testing purposes I uploaded the great toy robbery.exe up to virustotal, just because I had it laying there.And also here, i think it was 8 out of 65 programs saw a virus in the file, including things like AVG, Avast and so on.I suppose Liam isn't the type of person wanting to inject backdoor trojans and so on, so, what could be the cause of this?Would be cool if you could clear that one up a bit.Greetings Moritz. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402029/#p402029 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra @26, and I never strictly labeled it as a virus, though I'm leaning towards that purely because the author has offered nothing other than platitudes that its perfectly safe. We have no proof that it is or isn't, other than his history, and his history indicates that it isn't safe to use. And no, antiviruses don't label anything they don't know as a virus; if that were so, then they'd label all the programs I develop and work on privately as viruses, which they don't. Hell, they'd label every open-source program that you download and build as a virus because they don't know what it is, especially if its one of those programs that's ope-source but not well-known.As for your assertion that "8 out of 60 is nothing," it certainly is something. Just because its a small number does not mean its "nothing". Considering the accuracy of most AV programs these days, there's about an 80-85 percent or so chance they're correct that it is a virus. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402025/#p402025 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra @26, and I never strictly labeled it as a virus, though I'm leaning towards that purely because the author has offered nothing other than platitudes that its perfectly safe. We have no proof that it is or isn't, other than his history, and his history indicates that it isn't safe to use. And no, antiviruses don't label anything they don't know as a virus; if that were so, then they'd label all the programs I develop and work on privately as viruses, which they don't. Hell, they'd label every open-source program that you download and build as a virus because they don't know what it is, especially if its one of those programs that's ope-source but not well-known.As for your assertion that "8 out of 60 is nothing," it certainly is something. Just because its a small number does not mean its "nothing". URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402025/#p402025 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra @26, and I never strictly labeled it as a virus, though I'm leaning towards that purely because the author has offered nothing other than platitudes that its perfectly safe. We have no proof that it is or isn't, other than his history, and his history indicates that it isn't safe to use. And no, antiviruses don't label anything they don't know as a virus; if that were so, then they'd label all the programs I develop and work on privately as viruses, which they don't. Hell, they'd label every open-source program that you download and build as a virus because they don't know what it is, especially if its one of those programs that's ope-source but not well-known. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402025/#p402025 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra @26, and I never strictly labeled it as a virus, though I'm leaning towards that purely because the author has offered nothing other than platitudes that its perfectly safe. We have no proof that it is or isn't, other than his history, and his history indicates that it isn't safe to use. And no, antiviruses don't label anything they don't know as a virus; if that were so, then they'd label all the programs I develop and work on privately as viruses, which they don't. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402025/#p402025 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra First, no need to attack me about the 4 posts because I have never posted on forums before or replied a lot and if I have replied I have replied to already posted topics.Second, I will say for myself that as long as it doesn't harm anything and does me a good work, I use the software and I supporte whoever created it because everyone needs a support no matter what. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402023/#p402023 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra For how many new programs do you actually look for the source code to see if it is a virus or no? Seriously, 8 out of 60 is nothing and it does not matter if they are big names. Most of them mark anything new as a virus until it's proven as a false positive nowadays, and especially if it's using a scripting language. So, if you feel unsafe with the program, use it in a VM or don't use it at all, but if you want a definitive proof that this is not a virus first give me one that it is. Just to be clear, I could not care less about this fake copy of youtube DL/FFMPEG which this program wants to be, but I don't call it a virus either. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402013/#p402013 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra About the certificates: that is a load of bull shit. It is, trust me. You do not need a "certificate" of any kind to make an antivirus determine "no, that's not a virus" or "yeah, that's a virus". Certificates for whether something is a virus or not is entirely irrelevant, because that is *not* how an antivirus program works. Please, go look up your facts on how antivirus programs actually work before claiming that a certificate is what determines whether something is malicious or not.Second, AVG and AVAST do not "consider everything a virus". That's a load of bullshit, too. If I load Skype up on Virus total, guess how many engines detected it as a virus? Absolutely zero! If I upload NVDA up there, guess how many consider it a virus? Again, absolutely zero.Third, to all of you claiming this isn't a virus? Prove it. why is it that, when I scanned the program on virus total, 8 engines found it as a virus -- most of them being well-known ones? Are any of you security experts who can prove, without a doubt, that this is not a virus? Do any of you have the source code to the application? Because the only way we'll definitively know that this isn't a virus is if either:* the full source code is released, or* The program is audited by a security professional and declared harmless URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/402010/#p402010 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra I will agree with all the posts which were made after mine, if you are a single dev you can not get a certificate that easy like big companies do.And I will agree with Simba, no need for 4 posts in a row just to quote everything, you could do that in a single one. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401997/#p401997 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra i can use this program very good and out of problems so.and i agreed to blindgamer and muslimer this avast and others are really stupid antiviruses. They detecting viruses every time and in everything but then, it isn't virus. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401974/#p401974 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra Firstly, there is an edit button under each forum post, so no reason spamming this forum with 4 posts after each other which basically say the same thing over and over again.And, if you would read the link someone posted a while back to the notation on the NVDA addons website, the get extra addon was used to hack someones computer to possibly steel data, if it has been done remains to be found out, but a developer who apparently uses his resurces to do these things is definitelly not someone I would trust.Greetings moritz. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401971/#p401971 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra Let me tell you, my dear friend that AVG an Avast detected my NVDA and Skype as virus, they deleted games like Redspot and Survive The Wild. So, what bout that?Just because this is a developer who is on his own doesn't mean we have to attack. We don't know people's situations, and as far as I have used these programs I don't have any complain.Peace.Ameena.Ethin wrote:Ran this through virus total, and 8 out of 66 virus scanners detected it as malicious -- two of them being AVG and AVAST. Those are huge names in the security community. This is most definitely a Trojan. It doesn't help that Ahmed Sattar, who is the actual author, continues to develop this malware like a fool and just hopes to god that people will fall for it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401946/#p401946 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Off topic, Media Extra May I ask what has this developer done in the past?Did he destroy someone's computer?I don't think so. I see you all happy and alive. And your negativity might hurt a person. words are a powerful thing and sometimes they speak louder than actions, so be careful what you're saying.Peace.ameena.Slender wrote:Considering what this developer has done in the past, I will personally stay far away from his software for the foreseeable future. But hey, if this program's useful for someone, good for them. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401945/#p401945 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra thank you!Peace.Ameena.burak wrote:Agreed with blindgamer. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401944/#p401944 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra thank you, gamer!You explained it better than me. Peace.Ameena.blindgamer wrote:Hello everyone.First, i want to say, that Media extra, even getextra didn't changed or affected my system, though, lets talk about this virustotal and other related things!Guys, Ahmed makes everything with his knowledge, so it didn't have any trusted certificate or trusted module included with it.Every known developing companys eg Microsoft, Google and etc, have their own certificate to ensure the antiviruses, that their programms didn't include any peace of virus or other malware and spyware.Please, don't trust the antiviruses lot of, cause they didn't have any method to decompile the programm, and see what's going on in the programm code, they just detects something unknown tipes of viruses, which is not really malware or something.What about Bgt? Why the hell then windows defender and most popular: Awast, Avira, Avg detects the programms and games writed in Bgt as a virus and deletes it emediatelly? Cause they don't have any certificate and trusted module.Believe me guys, the popular companys gives a money to remove their special certificates from the virus scanning, i have huge proofs of this, so, please stop guys saying any unknown things about ahmed and his soft.How you can proof that it contains virus? Only with virustotal and some stupid antiviruses, which even detects skype installer as a jiooyaa win 32 ee.exe virus? Stop, please! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401943/#p401943 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra Agreed with blindgamer. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401930/#p401930 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra Hello everyone.First, i want to say, that Media extra, even getextra didn't changed or affected my system, though, lets talk about this virustotal and other related things!Guys, Ahmed makes everything with his knowledge, so it didn't have any trusted certificate or trusted module included with it.Every known developing companys eg Microsoft, Google and etc, have their own certificate to ensure the antiviruses, that their programms didn't include any peace of virus or other malware and spyware.Please, don't trust the antiviruses lot of, cause they didn't have any method to decompile the programm, and see what's going on in the programm code, they just detects something unknown tipes of viruses, which is not really malware or something.What about Bgt? Why the hell then windows defender and most popular: Awast, Avira, Avg detects the programms and games writed in Bgt as a virus and deletes it emediatelly? Cause they don't have any certificate and trusted module.Believe me guys, the popular companys gives a money to remove their special certificates from the virus scanning, i have huge proofs of this, so, please stop guys saying any unknown things about ahmed and his soft.How you can proof that it contains virus? Only with virustotal and some stupid antiviruses, which even detects skype installer as a jiooyaa win 32 ee.exe virus? Stop, please! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401928/#p401928 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra Hello everyone.First, i want to say, that Media extra, even getextra didn't changed or affected my system, though, lets talk about this virustotal and other related things!Guys, Ahmed makes everything with his knowledge, so it didn't have any trusted certificate or trusted module included with it.Every known developing companys eg Microsoft, Google and etc, have their own certificate to ensure the antiviruses, that their programms didn't include any peace of virus or other malware and spyware.Please, don't trust the antiviruses lot of, cause they didn't have any method to decompile the programm, and see what's going on in the programm code, they just detects something unknown tipes of viruses, which is not really malware or something.What about Bgt? Why the hell then windows defender and most popular: Awast, Avira, Avg detects the programms and games writed in Bgt as a virus and deletes it emediately? Cause they don't have any certificate and trusted module.Believe me guys, the popular companys gives a money to remove their special certificates from the virus scanning, i have huge proofs of this, so, please stop guys saying any unknown things about ahmed and his soft.How you can proof that it contains virus? Only with virustotal and some stupit antiviruses, which even detects skype installer as a jiooyaa win 32 ee.exe virus? Stop, please! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401928/#p401928 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra Hello everyone.First, i want to say, that Media extra, even getextra didn't changed or affected my system, though, lets talk about this virustotal and other related things!Guys, Ahmed makes everything with his knowledge, so it didn't have any trusted certificate or trusted module included with it.Every known developing companyes eg Microsoft, Google and etc, have their own certificate to ensure the antiviruses, that their programms didn't include any peace of virus or other malware and spyware.Please, don't trust the antiviruses lot of, cause they didn't have any method to decompile the programm, and see what's going on in the programm code, they just detects something unknown tipes of viruses, which is not really malware or something.What about Bgt? Why the hell then windows defender and most popular: Awast, Avira, Avg detects the programms and games writed in Bgt as a virus and deletes it emediately? Cause they don't have any certificate and trusted module.Believe me guys, the popular companys gives a money to remove their special certificates from the virus scanning, i have huge proofs of this, so, please stop guys saying any unknown things about ahmed and his soft.How you can proof that it contains virus? Only with virustotal and some stupit antiviruses, which even detects skype installer as a jiooyaa win 32 ee.exe virus? Stop, please! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401928/#p401928 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra Peace onto you all.First: I want to say about Avast and AVG. these programs consider everything as virus, even my NVDA, and my Skype.Second: Avast can't be removed with the usual uninstalling services.Third: All AVG and Avast want, is, money.Fourth: The droppages.com website is not included in the trusted sources of these programs. The programs, developed by this person are not included as well and the reason is that he is not associated with any company and develops them on his own. It considers Redspot and survive the wild for me as trojans too.Now, let's not talk about viruses and whose software is the best, and how you should not use these services that are free.And last, but not least,I would like to say that just because the person si an independent small developer and makes software that we could use for free, doesn't mean he spreads viruses. I use all of the programs and I am quite happy with their work. I use them all and they are useful.Stay happy and do not spread this negativity. Excuse me for the mistakes I have been distracted by my sister. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401926/#p401926 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra I couldn’t find any viruses either URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401924/#p401924 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra I can not prove to you that it doesn't have viruses, but I can say that win defender and Norton didn't find it as a virus.I run it with no problems, along with the other program, Get Extra if I am not mistaken. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401919/#p401919 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
2018-12-30
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : giorgi elbaqidze via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra guys i run it and it don't have virus and my friend blindgamer is usin this program but it don't have virus really URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401910/#p401910 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra Considering what this developer has done in the past, I will personally stay far away from his software for the foreseeable future. But hey, if this program's useful for someone, good for them. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401891/#p401891 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra Considering what this developer has done in the past, I will personally stay far away from his software for the foreseeable future. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401891/#p401891 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra Ran this through virus total, and 8 out of 66 virus scanners detected it as malicious -- two of them being AVG and AVAST. Those are huge names in the security community. This is most definitely a Trojan. It doesn't help that Ahmed Sattar, who is the actual author, continues to develop this malware like a fool and just hopes to god that people will fall for it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401856/#p401856 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra If it uses bgt that could fuck it all up too... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401850/#p401850 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra Hi.I just ran the file through on virus total, here is what I have found, I am not totally sure what this all is, but I hope someone can clearr this up a bit.SHA256:5a93a71db3de552a968c9e673e657a919ff9e8c59a3d82b2e61ee8acfd5e6baf File name:MediaExtra-v4.0.exeDetection ratio:6 / 66 Analysis date:2018-12-29 23:20:03 UTC ( 1 minute ago ) 0 0 Antivirus Result Update Antiy-AVL Trojan[Backdoor]/MSIL.SpyGate 20181229 Avast Win32:Malware-gen 20181229 AVG Win32:Malware-gen 20181229 Cyren W32/S-513ec574!Eldorado 20181229 F-Prot W32/S-513ec574!Eldorado 20181229 Trapmine malicious.high.ml.score Greetings Moritz. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401845/#p401845 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra I am using this app like few months. Didn't lived any troubles. But feel free to scan it via uploading to virustotal, I hope to hear the results. I cannot do it at the moment cause of my net. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401824/#p401824 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra Yes someone should scan this with a couple anti virus programs on a vm to make sure it's okay...Or upload to virus total or something. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401823/#p401823 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra this reminds me of blind extra, an nvda addon Trojan with remote access capabilities that was banned by nvda addon project community a few years ago.feels to me that the developer is the same, as peaces of software that had been seen in the old website can be found in his new page.read about the old addon and why It was banned in the link belowhttps://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/ … ra.en.html URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401821/#p401821 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra I think he wrote the link wrong, you can get it from:http://softjewel.droppages.com/ URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401787/#p401787 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
Re: Off topic, Media Extra I fixed the link, Excuse me for the typo.ammericandad2005 wrote:the dl link is dead. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401786/#p401786 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra
2018-12-29
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AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ammericandad2005 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Off topic, Media Extra the dl link is dead. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401783/#p401783 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Off topic, Media Extra
Off topic, Media Extra Peace onto all of you,and happy holidays!If this topic does not follow the rules, please delete it.It's my first topic and I will say from now, so that you all can read that the content I am posting is not mine and thus you don't have to contact me to express your opinions.Here is the description of a program I am posting about.The description is made by me, but I am not associated with any of the development of this software.The goal of Ahmed Sattar’s projects is to see all your faces with a bright smile on them!Name:Media ExtraDescription:Media Extra gives you the ability to:• To create videos from a sound file and photo.•to download videos from Youtube into MP3.•To download entire playlists in MP3•To download entire channels in MP3•To play the file directly from Media Extra.•the ability to also download files from Soundcloud and other Websites.Creating a video.1. Open Media Extra.2. Choose Create video.3. Choose a file in the following formats:•M4A,•MP3 or•WAF4. You can choose the default photo of the app, or you can choose your own photo.5. Choose a place to save your video.Other abilities of the program are: •The ability to see media name, duration and media description.•Sounds indicating the download progress.•A signal indicating when the file is in conversion mote.When copying a video and pressing play, media player will open. Here are the keys to control the media player.Space: Pause/resume the playing of the file.Up/down arrows volume up or down.Left/right arrows will move you forward or back in the file.Notes:You can download the contents in their original video formats.If you use Internet Download Manager it will download the media with Internet Download Manager.If an article or post contains media from Youtube or another source, you do not need to copy the link, just copy the post link and it will find the link containing the media for you.Media Extra will start in your default language, if your default language is not supported it will start in English. Currently the program supports the following languages:Arabic, Georgian, Russian, Spanish and Turkish.The files you download will be saved in Media Extra folder, which will be located in your downloads folder.Thank you for choosing Media Extra! Happy downloading!. Feedback is highly appreciated.Contact info is provided in the developer's websitehttp://softjeweldroppages.comThank you for reading this super long post.To support me you can check out my Wattpad profile at:http://wattpad.com/hijabi_muslima/and follow me if you are a bookworm! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/401721/#p401721 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
