Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker It's OK.I've made a deal with VisioBraille, that I send the Pronto to them, and if the repairation is too expensive for me, they'll send it back.So that's it for now, I guess. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/394707/#p394707 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker so here's the deal. as you probably know already, nk.bin can be extracted using something like http://grossgang.com/utilities/nkbintools.zipunfortunately, it doesn't appear to accept NB0, which I was hoping it would. I might be of ideas at the moment. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/394700/#p394700 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Here is a link ot the file from my Dropbox. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/394565/#p394565 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Here is a link to the file from my Dropbox. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/394565/#p394565 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker are you able to send me a link to the NB0 in question? I want to make sure it can be extracted before I give you any answers. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/394535/#p394535 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker But if I extract the nb0 file, and if I then can see the content of the Windows folder from the file. I can check if some files are missing in the Pronto's Windows folder, and then copy them in. Can you help me extract the files?By the way, I haven't got any respons from VisioBraille yet. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/394363/#p394363 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker NB0 files can in fact, be extracted if one has the right tool. and they're usually not encrypted, either. unfortunately, even if you extract them, I'm afraid they would be of no use to you at this current state, unless you want the files for some other reason. if it's a windows CE device, I wonder if it has a bootloader like the mPowers do? if it does, you might just be able to flash it through the boot loader. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/394322/#p394322 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Yes, Itech is the reseller of Pronto here in Denmark, which is, where I'm located. Until today, I thought trhey knew a lot about Pronto's internals, but after I've gotten a reply from them, which didn't answared any of my questions, or tried to, I think I'll try and contact VisioBraille. Thanks. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/394050/#p394050 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Yes, Itech is the reseller of Pronto here in Denmark, which is, where I'm located. Until today, I thought trhey knew a lot about Pronto's internals, but after I've gotten a reply from them, which didn't answared any of my questions, or tried to, I think I'll try to contact VisioBraille. Thanks. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/394050/#p394050 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Hi,and what does iTech have to do with a Baum Pronto 40? Why not contact the producers themselves? VisioBraille employs many of the original developers from Baum and will probably be able to help you in the best way possible. As far as I can see they also have an english website, even though from germany, so you surely can contact them. I'd consider them to be your best bed right now, not some other assistive service which just sells those devices, but probably doesn't know anything about their internals.Best Regards.Hijacker URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393969/#p393969 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Hi,and what does iTech have to do with a Baum Pronto 40? Why not contact the producers themselves? VisioBraille employs many of the original developers from Baum and will probably be able to help you in the best way possible. As far as I can see they also have an english website, even though from germany, so you surely can contact them. I'd consider them to be your best bed right now, not some other assistive service which just seels those devices, but probably doesn't know anything about its internals.Best Regards.Hijacker URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393969/#p393969 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Hi,Yes, I also thought about that today. Well, I think I'll contact Itech and see what they reply. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393950/#p393950 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Hi,thats what I just wanted to say, maybe contacting them will show you some way or another to fix it yourself without the need of sending it in and paying for it. At least questions don't cost you money, as far as I know, so why not try it out?Best Regards.Hijacker URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393940/#p393940 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Hi.Long time ago, I heard about some restart commands, which would load the firmware from scratch into the Pronto. I don't remember those commands since they are quite complex.Maybe you could contact the reseller and ask for those commands? They might be willing to give those out, even when they don't sell the product anymore. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393933/#p393933 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker I can, but I'll prefer fixing it by my self, if possible. I don't have enough Money to get it into repair. But thanks for the information anyway.Do anyone have the above stated operating system's Windows folder? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393883/#p393883 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Well, Baum just found a successor, VisioBraille, who got a website and a service number/mail address, i'd recommend you to consider writing them to get your problem solved.Best Regards.Hijacker URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393844/#p393844 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker It's possible, but I don't think so. Anyway, do anyone here have a Pronto with operating system version 2.0.0.58?It is included with software version 3.6. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393812/#p393812 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Maybe they are physicaly corrupted? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393809/#p393809 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Also, if I tried to copy the files from the same version of the operating system that is running into the Windows folder, would it then make no difference if they were mixed, because it were the same files. Alternatively, I'm thinking of, if someone has a Pronto with exact same operating system version as me, then the person could send me the entire content of the Windows folder, and I could check if some files is missing. Because I think, that the reason for the speaker, keyboards, and sd Card reader, don't Work, is because the drivers are missing, because if the speaker was fysicaly broken, then I could connect headphones without problems, but that doesn't Work as well. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393793/#p393793 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker That's a good point. Well, I'm currently trying to fool the Pronto to think that a USB media is a Storage Card, but not with much luk. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393790/#p393790 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Even if you could extract the files as you outlined, you can't copy a new Windows install on top of a running system. Even if you could, you'd almost certainly then have a messy hybrid of the old and new systems, which would probably make the situation worse. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393789/#p393789 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Well, I donn't know, if it has a password or not.Anyway, so do you have any other suggestions to what I can try?Edit: I'll now tell what's happening, when I turn the Pronto 40 on.When I press the button, I hear the BIOS start up sound, and the display says BAUM Pronto.After about 10-15 seconds or more, it vanishes, but the chimes sound never comes, nieder does the shot beeps, that indicates, that the software is starting. When it's started, the voice says nothing, but it displays the folowing error:Fejl ved indlæsning af Outlook datafil.It Means:Error while loading Outlook datafile.And I can't just press OK, like I usualy can with other Prontos, in fact, no keys Work.I can connect it to my computer without problems, and I've tried deleting all the content from the flashdisk through my computer, and then copy it back from the install folder, and then restarting pronto, but the same thing happens.So, please, what can I do?Edit 2: I found out, that I can navigate the Pronto through CerHost on my computer, but it has no speech, and it doesn't seem to can read the SD Card. It isn't in the File Manager. I've tried reinstalling the OS from an USB-media, which the Pronto reads just fine, but the commando for installing OS doesn't seem to Work on the computer. So, it seems like the Pronto is running, but the drivers for the speaker, keyboard and SD Card reader is missing. What can I do? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393769/#p393769 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Well, I donn't know, if it has a password or not.Anyway, so do you have any other suggestions to what I can try?Edit: I'll now tell what's happening, when I turn the Pronto 40 on.When I press the button, I hear the BIOS start up sound, and the display says BAUM Pronto.After about 10-15 seconds or more, it vanishes, but the chimes sound never comes, nieder does the shot beeps, that indicates, that the software is starting. When it's started, the voice says nothing, but it displays the folowing error:Fejl ved indlæsning af Outlook datafil.It Means:Error while loading Outlook datafile.And I can't just press OK, like I usualy can with other Prontos, in fact, no keys Work.I can connect it to my computer without problems, and I've tried deleting all the content from the flashdisk through my computer, and then copy it back from the install folder, and then restarting pronto, but the same thing happens.So, please, what can I do? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393769/#p393769 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Well, I donn't know, if it has a password or not.Anyway, so do you have any other suggestions to what I can try?Edit: I'll now tell what's happening, when I turn the Pronto 40 on.When I press the button, I hear the BIOS start up sound, and the display says BAUM Pronto.After about 10-15 seconds, it vanishes, but the chimes sound never comes, nieder does the shot beeps, that indicates, that the software is starting. When it's started, the voice says nothing, but it displays the folowing error:Fejl ved indlæsning af Outlook datafil.It Means:Error while loading Outlook datafile.And I can't just press OK, like I usualy can with other Prontos, in fact, no keys Work.I can connect it to my computer without problems, and I've tried deleting all the content from the flashdisk through my computer, and then copy it back from the install folder, and then restarting pronto, but the same thing happens.So, please, what can I do? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393769/#p393769 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Well, I didn't know, if it has a password or not.Anyway, so do you have any other suggestions to what I can try?Edit: I'll now tell what happening, when I turn the Pronto 40 on.When I press the button, I hear the BIOS start up sound, and the display says BAUM Pronto.After about five seconds, it vanishes, but the chimes sound never comes, nieder does the shot beeps, that indicates, that the software is starting. When it's started, the voice says nothing, but it displays the folowing error:Fejl ved indlæsning f Outlook datafil.It Means:Error while loading Outlook datafile.And I can't just press OK, like I usualy can with other Prontos, in fact, no keys Work.I can connect it to my computer without problems, and I've tried deleting all the content from the flashdisk through my computer, and then copy it back from the install folder, and then restarting pronto, but the same thing happens.So, please, what can I do? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393769/#p393769 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Well, I didn't know, if it has a password or not.Anyway, so do you have any other sugestions to whatr I can try?Edit: I'll now tell what happening, when I turn the Pronto 40 on.When I press the button, I hear the BIOS start up sound, and the display says BAUM Pronto.After about five seconds, it vanishes, but the chimes sound never comes, nieder does the shot beeps, that indicates, that the software is starting. When it's started, the voice says nothing, but it displays the folowing error:Fejl ved indlæsning f Outlook datafil.It Means:Error while loading Outlook datafile.And I can't just press OK, like I usualy can with other Prontos, in fact, no keys Work.I can connect it to my computer without problems, and I've tried deleting all the content from the flashdisk through my computer, and then copy it back from the install folder, and then restarting pronto, but the same thing happens.So, please, what can I do? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393769/#p393769 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Well, I didn't know, if it has a password or not.Anyway, so do you have any other sugestions to whatr I can try? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393769/#p393769 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker It's not necessarily illegal unless it has a product key, but it most certainly is not possible because you can't just copy contents of a rom image into the windows folder, unfortunately. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393714/#p393714 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
Re: extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Hi.Even if it was possible, it will be illegal. There is a reason for it's encrypted. Baum has closed its doors, so you can't get any support on their products at all. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393706/#p393706 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker
extracting an operating system for a braille notetaker Hi,I've recently got my hands on an old Baum Pronto 40 machine, that doesn't Work anymore.It starts up, sort of, but the keys doesn't Work. I've tried to reinstall the software, the operating system, and the BIOS, but I can't, because the keys isn't working. So, the thing I'm thinking of, is that the operating system is the falty part, and it needs to be reinstalled, so I'll somehow extract the operating system installation file, and copy the content to the Windows folder through my computer. So, my question is, do anyone here know a program that can extract an operating system file? The file extension is .nb0.Thank you in advance.Best regards: Aksel Christoffersen URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/post/393679/#p393679 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
