Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out Hey everyone, I'm sorry to bring back this topic, I just like to know if there's any possibility of getting more audio cues to a future update? i doubt so, because the game is almost one year old, but i'm playing the demo and having so much fun with it, the combat and long distance hits feel so great, even though the levels are random, they just need a text description to picture the idea of where the platforms are and what you can interact with. the screen reader support could be improved as well...@lirin do you still have the developer's contact info? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/538481/#p538481 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out Shit 20, you could have said this a lot nicer. yes, it firstly might sound like a cheap excuse saying that this wouldn't be possible due to random level design and I thought that this is just a cheap action to get out of having to make your game accessible, but thinking about it and reading 28s explanation makes it more logical.Greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490046/#p490046 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out Still waiting for the announcement of 20s platformer. Wondering at what point it will be acceptable to refer to them as fucker, as he so casually did the dev after knowing nothing about them. Also thanks for clarification, 28. Puts the difficulty of making blind accessibility for this game into prospective. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490041/#p490041 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out Still waiting for the announcement of 20s platformer. Wondering at what point it will be acceptable to refer to them as fucker, as he so casually did the dev after knowing nothing about them. Also thanks for clarification, 28. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/490041/#p490041 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
2019-12-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ianhamilton_ via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out @25 @26What I said was -"The accessibility is actually not across the board.. there are no voiced menus on switch, because it uses windows' voices.""It" refers to the game, not the swtich. The switch does not use windows' voices. The game uses windows' voices. Therefore the game has no voicing on the switch. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489856/#p489856 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
2019-12-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ianhamilton_ via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out @20 that is an absolutely disgraceful thing to say. The game is developed by a single person. Funded by himself, despite having a new baby and a wife off on maternity. It's his first game. And it's still more accessible than anything that pretty much any other developers are doing.By that I mean across the board, although blind accessibility is obviously the priority for you there's way more to accessibility than that.He cares deeply about accessibility. He had devoted a significant chunk of time to trying to find a way for blind accessibility to work, but hasn't been able to. He is very much aware of blind accessibility and passionate about working on it in future games.It at least would be, if people didn't go around calling him a fucker. Imagine if he saw this thread. If someone called you a fucker would you be interested in helping them out?@22 it's procedurally generated. The game creates itself. So there are no platforms etc that cues can be added to. The cues need to be added as part of the systems that generate the levels, along with the system being clever enough to understand what cues are relevant in what contexts. Which wouldn't be impossible, but would be difficult and expensive. Too difficult and expensive for him to be able to take on. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489860/#p489860 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
2019-12-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ianhamilton_ via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out @20 that is an absolutely disgraceful thing to say. The game is developed by a single person. Funded by himself, despite having a new baby and a wife off on maternity. It's his first game. And it's still more accessible than anything that pretty much any other developers are doing.By that I mean across the board, although blind accessibility is obviously the priority for you there's way more to accessibility than that.He cares deeply about accessibility. He had devoted a significant chunk of time to trying to find a way for it to work, but hasn't been able to. But he is very much aware of blind accessibility and passionate about working on it in future games.It at least would be if people didn't go around calling him a fucker.@22 it's procedurally generated. The game creates itself. So there are no platforms etc that cues can be added to. The cues need to be added as part of the systems that generate the levels, along with the system being clever enough to understand what cues are relevant in what contexts. Which wouldn't be impossible, but would be difficult and expensive. Too difficult and expensive for him to be able to take on. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489860/#p489860 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
2019-12-31
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ianhamilton_ via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out @25 @26What I said was -"The accessibility is actually not across the board.. there are no voiced menus on switch, because it uses windows' voices."The switch does not use windows' voices. The game uses windows' voices. Therefore the game has no voicing on the switch. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489856/#p489856 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
2019-12-30
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : stirlock via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out The switch has no self voicing capabilities. Not sure where people are getting this from. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489592/#p489592 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
2019-12-30
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Blind angel 444 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out Since the switch uses windows voices like narrator then does that make the switch accessible for the blind? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489591/#p489591 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out What a freaking bad excuse. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489511/#p489511 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out I think in some cases devs don't realize the ease of making something accessible. They build it up to be a bigger deal than it is. Idk about this game, though. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489447/#p489447 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
2019-12-30
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : connor142 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out @20 yo, keep it down. But seriously, I just don't understand this reasoning. Adding a few more sound cues and stuf0f doesn't have anything major to do with gameplay. Why should random levels make access impossible? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489427/#p489427 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out You showed him buddy. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489411/#p489411 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
2019-12-29
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ogomez92 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out due to the random level design? No, its due to the md5 hash tendency to pull through to the optical line!No seriously, fuck this silly excuse. Let's make a random level designed platformer and show this fucker. lol. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489407/#p489407 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
2019-12-29
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ogomez92 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out due to the random level design?? No, its due to the md5 hash tendency to pull through to the optical line! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489407/#p489407 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
2019-12-29
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : stirlock via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out Never happening sadly. The dev has stated that due to the random level design it's not possible. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489365/#p489365 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
2019-12-29
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : wlomas via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out any upthate on eagle island payability yet for those with no sight? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/489334/#p489334 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
2019-07-25
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ianhamilton_ via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out The accessibility is actually not across the board.. there are no voiced menus on switch, because it uses windows' voices. Though it shouldn't be impossibly hard to plug in a third party voice solution rather than using one provided by the platform. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/451082/#p451082 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out Hi.Ok, thanks for the info, I somehow was wondering if i had missed anything posted on another platform possibly, the thoughts that come around when 100 degrees Fahrenheit weather turns your brain into jelly.Thanks for the info, take the time you guys need.Greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/451069/#p451069 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out @simba: Don't worry, I'll get back here and let you know if there will be something worth noting. Just be patient! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/451063/#p451063 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
2019-07-25
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : KenshiraTheTrinity via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out Thought it was already taken into consideration and that the devs would look into it after bugs were squashed. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/451015/#p451015 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out Hi.knocking that one into existance again, primarily asking Lirin here, are there any news regarding a possible accessibility fix for fully blind players?Really would love to try the game, from the describtion it sounds like a quite interesting concept.Greetings Moritz. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/451005/#p451005 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
2019-07-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : threeblacknoises via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out Sadly, I just checked the switch eshop, and their's no demo for this game.And, as far as I know, the switch has no screen reader built in, so it'd be interesting to find out how this person is going to make this game accessible on the switch.Later! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/449819/#p449819 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out Wow Lirin. This is amazing to hear.Regarding cross platform accessibility: Yes, he mentions the screenreader support on the Switch, but the screenreader voice is the default voice in Windows 10, Narrators voice. So, what if the Switch doesn't have any voice build into the console? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/449780/#p449780 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
2019-07-18
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : CrystalD via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out It's also out on Switch, and the accessibility is across the board - the video SLJ linked explains things pretty well, give it a watch if you're curious! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/449681/#p449681 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out No idea, I'll just update you when I'll know something more. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/449678/#p449678 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
2019-07-18
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : KenshiraTheTrinity via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out Is this out for anything else? And will accessibility be worked on across the board if so? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/449677/#p449677 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out Yeah, the main developer seems to be really friendly and I submitted my ideas / suggestions and He will work on it when there will be a timeframe after fixing bugs and stuff. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/449672/#p449672 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
2019-07-18
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : CrystalD via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out That's awesome to hear! I had contacted them also and hadn't heard anything back, so happy to hear they're putting in this support! I feel like indi developers are the best place for change, seems like they're the most open to listening to us yeah, definitely keep us posted! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/449664/#p449664 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out I am currently in touch with the developer and things are looking great!We will start developing a blind accessiibility with extra audio cues, extended screen reading stuff etc.I'll keep you pdated when tehere will be something new. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/449661/#p449661 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
2019-07-18
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : CrystalD via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out @2 you have to load up the game, hit escape, and left twice to get to accessibility menus and then turn the screen reader on that way. I agree, it's unfortunate that they only thought of low vision, but no reason to drag them as the thread you linked has been talking about. I do get frustrated that low vision is mainly what develpers think of as far as blind accessibility goes, so I'd really like to think of a way to talk to developers about fixes for fully blind players.@3 Those were pretty much the same ideas I had, like audio cues, and maybe have the built in screen reader say if there's cliffs or what not, since it already reads a lot of the game. I played it a bit and it seems like it would be easy to play with some minor tweaks here and there, but I know tweaking the game isn't that easy. They are already patching the game however, so maybe they'd be up to adding more accessibility stuff? Who knows lol. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/449588/#p449588 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out Hi.Wow. Thanks for sharing.Check out this really really amazing accessibility review of the game. It is very very well done:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0APUs3mrHHUI'm currently thinking about how the game can be made accessible to totally blind gamers as well. I have a few questions, which I hope someone will be able to answer:1. I don't understand how the overworld works and how to navigate this place.2. Maybe the navigation could be made accessible with sound cues for platforms, paths, doors and other things. Or maybe a map mode where you can pause the game, arrow around the map to get a visual orientation about the layout. It's quite difficult for me to come up with any great ideas, because I find it difficult to get an idea about how complex the navigation part is in the game.3. Fighting: I think that could be made totally accessible as well with sound cues.Opinions? Thoughts? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/449586/#p449586 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
2019-07-17
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ogomez92 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out what a shameOn the other hand, lets remember this topichttps://forum.audiogames.net/topic/2975 … ccessible/and not start posting bad reviews right away. Then again, if their intent was low vision, I don't think they'll make it accessible for the fully blind. Have you played the game? Does it have spoken menus, etc? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/449574/#p449574 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out
2019-07-17
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ogomez92 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Eagle Island Procedural Platformer Is out what a shame URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/449574/#p449574 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
