Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-07-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : criticview via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news True, with every thing auto connecting, there are issues involved, that goes without saying. But take ssh for instance: you can use a certificate to log in wich doesn't require you to enter a password all the time. Where is that certificate generated? If I

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-07-08 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ghost rider via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news I didn't uninstall it only because of that. I uninstalled it because I never use it. Only occasionally. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=267370#p267370 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-07-08 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : roelvdwal via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news I don't get why nvda remote auto connect is less secure then teamviewer, for example. As said in the beginning of this topic, the attacker needs to get the password from the machine before he can access it. If nvda remote was secure, Are there not a milion

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-07-08 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : raygrote via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news I agree with Livrobo on this. There is no reason to uninstall NvDA remote simply because you now know how easy it is to use it to get personal information. Especially with the information about it which we now have. From what I understand, you

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-07-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : livrobo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Why uninstall it? It seems like a lot of people are overreacting a bit. If you don't use auto-connect you won't have a problem. If you do use auto-connect, you should have other security measures in place, but that goes for any remote solution. URL: http

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-07-07 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : ghost rider via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news I never even keep NVDA Remote installed. I use it for one thing then uninstall it. Not ready for that security breach. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=267125#p267125 ___ Audiogames

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-07-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : crashmaster via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Hi.Well the only time I run autoconnect  at all is if I need to say restart a system during admin tasks.Then it gets turned off.I have been using a key I can remember, now I will use the generator.I don't need to be active all the time on a system for much

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-07-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : criticview via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news HmmA lot to think about and consider. One things for sure, NVDA Remote will no longer stay on auto connect at this stage, I still have phisical access to the machine I have NVDA remote running on. At sneak: ssh is open source http://www.openssh.com/so it's

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-07-06 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : criticview via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news HmmA lot to think about and consider. One things for sure, NVDA Remote will no longer stay on auto connect at this stage, I still have phisical access to the machine I have NVDA remote running on. At sneak: ssh is open source so it's no argument to use

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-22 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Sebby via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news For the avoidance of doubt, in case it wasn't already clear, that post was _not_ meant to be insulting. It should go without saying, I hope.I can see, though, that if I were to clarify that I was asking an honest question, as opposed to suggesting

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-22 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Sebby via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news For the avoidance of doubt, in case it wasn't already clear, that post was _not_ meant to be insulting. It should go without saying, I hope.I can see, though, that if I were to clarify that I was asking an honest question, as opposed to suggesting

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-21 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Dark via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Moderation! Looking at this discussion from a fresh perspective I do believe I can see the issue here. While Sebby's points about security are valid, at the same time given the problems Mason has had with hacks, Sebby's tone could come across as somewhat

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-21 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Agreed with posts 39 and 40.  While not everyone hides behind a router, many people do, which brings us to a total of two things that need to happen in order for anyone to be hacked, if you really want to call it that, assuming you don't connect directly

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-21 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Agreed with posts 39 and 40.  While not everyone hides behind a router, many people do, which brings us to t total of two things that need to happen in order for anyone to be hacked:1.  Your IP address must be discovered.2.  Your ports must be properly

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-21 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : nightshade via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news @Sebby,I totally agree that this is a user issue. If people didn't leave the door ajar, they wouldn't be hacked in this way.Its like leaving your front door unlocked and then getting mad when someone enters your house and calling it a break in.If

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-21 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Sebby via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news @Figment:Very good, I'll turn myself into the other moderators. Nevertheless, I see nothing wrong with that post. I'm open to suggestions on how it could be improved. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=265372#p265372

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-21 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Figment via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news One thing to consider, even though encryption method used would be readily accessible if Remote encrypted the key, such an attack would be specifically targeted at NVDA Remote users using auto connect. For general attacks an encrypted key would look like

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-21 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Sebby via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news I don't get it. What does this have to do with the code heists? Who uses NVDA Remote with auto-connect on? Who is sharing NVDA Remote passwords? Who runs code from untrusted sources, and which code is it that's stealing NVDA Remote credentials?Really

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-21 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : vlad25 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news hiwell guys, the best secure thing on anywhere is to change  the passwords periodicly which means evey week or every month. doing this will result in the hardest way to get hacked. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=265334#p265334

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-18 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : blindndangerous via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news We'll see what Q does for his next version of Remote, apparently it's nearly done. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=265017#p265017 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-17 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : sneak via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Python is very easy to learn. The code for NVDA remote is open source. If you want to encrypt it, you are all smart enough to write up your own encryption methods. You could even sell unique methods to people who don’t know how to code, or just give them

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : masonian via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news @aprone, very true there. That's the problem with making open source things, it's easily hackable. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=264518#p264518 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-15 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Aprone via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news The problem is that anyone having access to the source code knows what info is being used to encrypt the key.  The malware program that would be stealing your password could then just as easily view the same MAC address/system specs/attributes and again

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jaybird via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news I agree something should be done about this. If you're going to encrypt the key, it needs to be encrypted uniquely for each user. If it's encrypted with some sort of master key, since the code is open-source, in theory anyone could decrypt it, so you're

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : masonian via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Yep, just did. Thanks. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=264383#p264383 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : blindndangerous via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Might wanna change your signature if you're not going to use that anymore. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=264382#p264382 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : masonian via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news No problem. Really, NVDA Remote isn't that big of a deal, it's just some people make it out to be worse than it actually is. I mean who is gonna hack into you, connect you to a server and grab your remote key? It's highly unlikely. URL: http

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-14 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Good. Thanks for that clarification. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=264345#p264345 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : masonian via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Hi,Yes, it would only be unsecure if you told it to autoconnect. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=264285#p264285 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Aprone via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Cartertemm, that is what I was wondering after skimming through this thread.  I don't know much about NVDA remote, but wouldn't this only affect people who set it to auto connect?  Keep in mind that because I've never used this add-on, I am assuming

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news I am glad I found out about this because I was just about to install that add-on. I think I have changed my mind now. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=264185#p264185 ___ Audiogames

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news The way Sam puts it when he says "All you have to do is run something, and it can send out an HTTP packet with the key. " makes it sound like we are choosing to be very vulnerable if we use NVDA Remote. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtop

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-13 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cartertemm via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news nothings wrong with installing the add-on. that's actually pretty secure. The unsecure thing comes when using auto-connect keys. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=264201#p264201

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news I am glad I found about this because I was just about to install that add-on. I think I have changed my mind now. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=264185#p264185 ___ Audiogames-reflector

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-12 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Sam_Tupy via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Someone asked about remote. Here. My twitter rant on the matter. Not getting into this anymore than this thing, but I want this public anyway, to protect the users of NVDA remote, because the devs won't just do whats right and at least make there flaw

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-11 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : masonian via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Thanks for the suggestion. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=264047#p264047 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cartertemm via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Nice, I'll make sure to check that out. Thank you URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=263943#p263943 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jack via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news There is a password manager called anypassword, it's free and has all your passwords in a nice treeview. The passwords are showing when inside the program to allow clipboard access, but to open the file you must type in the master password, and anypassword

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cartertemm via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Perfect, glad I could help. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=263898#p263898 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : masonian via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news True. I've ended up encrypting this and the key is not written anywhere. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=263891#p263891 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cartertemm via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Just another helpful little thing, 2 factor authentication is there with most services for a reason. Of course this won't work for NVDA remote, but Skype, email, and most other things. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=263888#p263888

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : livrobo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news It seems the problem that people have with NVDA Remote is that your auto connect key is written to a file in your appdata directory. Apparently people want this file encrypted, but I really don't think that there is a way that this can be done. NVDA Remote

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : livrobo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Setting aside weak passwords and storing them in locations that aren't secure, I want to say something about NVDA Remote. It seems the problem that people have is that your auto connect key is written to a file in text in your appdata directory. Apparently

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : livrobo via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Since other people have already touched on the subject of password managers, I want to say something about NVDA Remote. It seems the problem that people have is that your auto connect key is written to a file in text in your appdata directory. Apparently

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : simba via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Hi.Ok, As a user of NVDA remote, I want to ask something.I thought that when you are at your computer, you will always see what some other guy is doing to your pc with NVDA remote. But how can you hack those things then? Or more precicely, how can you

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : jaybird via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news I've always said NVDA Remote needs more security than just basically a password to enter when connecting. Why not have systems accessible via a private key? If you don't have the private key, you are not getting in. Period, end of story, closed subject

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Figment via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news If RoboForm or something like it didn't exist, so I had to keep my passwords in a file, I'd either store the file encrypted, or store it on offline media like a flash drive, or both.That way the file is only readable when you need it. Otherwise it's either

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cartertemm via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Ok, even if your going to have a file with your passwords in it, unprotected, at least have a hard drive where it is only located, and take extreme measures to secure it, right?That's still really insecure as well. when your thinking about security, you

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : the_ruler_of_dark_forces via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Also, ms word and openOffice enable you to protect your documents with password. At least it's more secure than storing it in a text file, which, as it has been said before, is just asking to get hacked. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-10 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : TJT1234 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news It's free on mobile because we expect mobile apps to be free. Another good example is A Blind Legend. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=263787#p263787 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : cartertemm via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news nah, its free on ios. And Mason, I usually base my passwords off something nobody in this blind community knows about, therefor making it more secure. I however, keep my stuff in a password protected DMG, so it can only be accessed on a mac. I would use

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : RichYamamoto via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news I would use something like 1password, so that if for some odd reason you forget your password, you could look back and see what your password is. Keep in mind that last time I checked, it was $50, but I heard that they made it free. I'm not sure

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : blink_wizard via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news well, you could code something like a password manager. How you might ask?Simple, make a bgt script that you open, and it requires a password to unlock. You then are taken in to a menu, and you can hit enter on a password, and closes.However, after doing

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : masonian via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news yeah. The problem is though, I'm never gonna remember them all if I don't. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=263762#p263762 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : blink_wizard via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Hi, that's not even your problem. You unlike most people, did not use all the same passwords, and they were pretty strong.Your main problem was that you stored all of your passwords in a text file, there for it would have just been asking to get hacked.The

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : masonian via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news Hmm, I might have to check into tat. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=263759#p263759 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Figment via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news I had that happen to me about 13 years ago. I was notified by a web site I had an account on that they had been hacked and that they were recommending that anyone who used the same password at other sites, change the passwords at those other sites.I

Re: Some bad and unfortunate news

2016-06-09 Thread AudioGames . net Forum — Off-topic room : Figment via Audiogames-reflector
Re: Some bad and unfortunate news I had that happen to me about 13 years ago. I was notified by a web site I had an account on that they had been hacked and that they were recommending that anyone who used the same password at other sites, change the passwords at those other sites.I