Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? @manamon_player, Well, if Microsoft really cares about accessibility like they say they do, then sure. Why not? It's not like they're risking losing users or anything, sure. Why not? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/560134/#p560134 -- Audiogames-reflector

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? one of simplest answers: why not? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/560074/#p560074 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Yup, it's new, added like 20 days a gohttps://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/ar … -birthday-Yeah, I have to fill the form again and report it once more, I guess... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559964/#p559964 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? @63 yeah same as @DJEPIC here. Thought you meant the main interface when you talked about closing, but also never dealt with the birthday entry so can't say how it works or doesn't work. There is however a Discord accessibility server where you can probably report

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? @Tissman Now it's been a while since I created my Discord account, but I never entered a birth date, or had trouble with filling out a birth date. Is this a new feature where the birth date is required? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559949/#p559949

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? @62 Yup, but it's also needed in registration, and that can be a problem for the new people. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559947/#p559947 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? @62 Yup, but it's also needed in registration, and that can be a problem for the newe people. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559947/#p559947 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? It's for entering NSFW channels. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559943/#p559943 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? @Tissman, In that case, apologies for what could have sounded like a harsh and unreasonable post. I've never seen this birthday window in Discord, so unfortunately I can't help here, but I hope that you find a workaround for it soon. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Sorry, I haven't explained it well enough, correcting.I was trying to say that the birthday window was unaccessible, not the main discord interface, sorry for my chaotic writing and english.Everything what I wrote in that post was regarding the birthday selection

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? @Deathstar, It's not hard either to just, ehem, look at your settings? In a very well named category of "Voice & Video", you can change settings that, relate just to that. By default, Discord enables echo cancellation and noise suppression, and while the

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? To say that skype has been around for a few years is slightly inaccurate. Only slightly. The classic desktop app, which had its own issues but was written for an operating system in a normal, tried and true programming language, was around for years. At some point

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Ah, so the treeview bug is corrected, finally. Although it was already corrected a few times but it always came back. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559893/#p559893 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Hi,@Deathstar Discord's not an app with the typical window layout. For instance if you click on a dm or a server, or even settings, the other stuff will stay, but the thing you want gets brought round just past the server tree view.With NVDA, Discord's server list

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Oh, so let's take for example a random John who doesn't really know anything about sound bitrate and configuring and so on, and he enters to discord. The first thing he'll see is that the quality is awful, but it's his problem because discord is so damn smart

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Everything is the same, or almost the same with NVDA.I don't call that inaccessible, it improved lots since I started using it.Yeah, on ios it isn't great, but on android it does it's job properly.Also, @49, Skype on android is worse now, it doesn't say typing, at least

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? My own experience is that Skype's voice quality wavered a bit - sometimes good, sometimes awful - and discord does pretty much the same. I don't think one or the other is miles ahead where it comes to voice quality. As you say, that may be a config thing, but if so, I

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? I am afraid that in my challenge, I said install Discord. Clearly you didn't do that and spoke from past experiences, because the issue of voice channels is thankfully long gone. A button called disconnect from voice does exactly what it advertises, it is the last

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Using discord canary with Jaws, here's what I do.Step 1: Open discord canary, and wait while it checks if there are updates.Step 2: Down arrow six times or so till you hear the words "tree view", and hit enter.Step 3: Wait approximately 1.5 seconds, at which

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Well, is it any better that you can't leave a voice channel on IOS no matters what you do, and even if you close the app it still says you are in it, and the only way to leave it is to connect from PC and leave from there?Discord was much better earlier, let's say, 4

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Well, is it any better that you can't leave a voice channel on IOS no matters what you do, and even if you close the app it still says you are in it, and the only way to leave it is to connect from PC and leave from there?Discord was much better earlier, let's say, 4

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Well, is it any better that you acn't leave a voice channel on IOS no matters what you do, and even if you close the app it still says you are in it, and the only way to leave it is to connect from PC and leave from there?Discord was much better earlier, let's say, 4

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? @47 cool, that post was enough to make me understand you will basically hate on it no matter what we say. Didn't know blind people don't play games. Yes, be negative about a chat platform primarily designed for gamers, on a gaming forum. Now, whenever you  get some

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Keep in mind Skype has been around for years while Discord has been around for what? 5 years at best? Also I don't praise Discord, nor is discord only for inaccessible games, or just for games. I made a hang out server for my friends from  school. URL: https

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? It's really fun though, that if skype becomes slightly inaccessible, everyone starts whining, but everyone praises a gaming platform alias discord, designed for sighted people to play inaccessible games, and every accessibility mistake is just a small thing compared

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? As I say, whatever changed in skype actually made it much -more accessible with jaws, so if NVDA does it better, I'm a bit baffled by that given that I don't need to mess around with my jaws cursor in order to interact with the program. It's a list with arrow keys

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? @Tissman, Oh, I don't think this could be further from the truth if you tried. Buttons are buttons, and if they're not, then they're not buttons, and they display fine with screen readers. Also, I think you kind of contradicted yourself there. You say

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? @Tissman, Oh, I don't think this could be further from the truth if you tried. Buttons are buttons, and if they're not, then they're not buttons, and they display fine with screen readers. Also, I think you kind of contradicted yourself there. You say

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? You literally close it with Alt f4, and hide it to the tray with alt shift f4. Doesn't get easier. Web apps update very, very often, and you do have to try them before making comments related to accessibility. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559772/#p559772

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? The biggest problem what discord currently has is the birthday stuff.Maybe it's more accessible now, but I remember that the window's buttons were mostly just clickables and the drop down lists weren't actually displayed as  drop down lists.Also it wasn't possible

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Well yeah, that's why most of us say 99 percent of the programs are better with NVDA. Jaws has equivalents for most things but skype is one of the things that works much better if using NVDA. Of course I don't wanna turn this into a Jaws bashing post, because it's also

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Well, I was using the uwp app, and one day it suddenly turned into electron app, which  is laggy as hell URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559724/#p559724 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? This page explains the switch from UWP to Electron.https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA3493 … windows-10 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559723/#p559723 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? They serve different functions. One cannot be a replacement for another. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559681/#p559681 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Zoom and Skype are totally different apps URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559678/#p559678 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Partly that and partly because I recognize the layout of the electron app because I preferred it before it got laggy as fuck. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559662/#p559662 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? The Jaws equivalent of that is the virtual cursor. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559625/#p559625 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Browse mode? Ahem, jaws user here. I have no idea what you're on about. I don't really know what happened to skype, but for now I'm happy with it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559592/#p559592 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Lol, Skype replaced by Zoom. Totally. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559575/#p559575 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? @ironcross32, How did you know it was Electron and what's the difference? Was it because you could access browse mode or something like that?@Liam, Ah yes. One of my favourites is ctrl+ numbers to switch between most recent conversations and servers, though some (like

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Skype may be replaced by zoom.  By by Skype, off to the graveyard.  We can put your corpse near AIM and MSN Messenger. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559551/#p559551 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Jayde, switch to browser navigation and skype will look like an app...I'll definitely give discord another try, although I don't really have a lot  of servers to join. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559550/#p559550 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Yeah. Discord has massively improved. Which is good because it's usage has really taken off. don't forget it also has a lot of accelerator keys URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559544/#p559544 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Microsoft thinks otherwise, so the UWP app is abandoned. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559543/#p559543 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? For some reason, the Skype UWP app is not really a thing anymore. It turned into the skype electron app. I removed it, then reinstalled from the store expecting to get the UWP app back, but I got the electron app instead. The UWP app didn't have as many problems. URL

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? @25 sure, but you can't just call someone on TT. That is not it's purpose, so it can't be compared to Skype really. Discord's audio qquality is pretty good, and during these last months there have been nothing but accessibility improvements, so definitely give

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? No reported issues with Discord Canary on this end. I'm not a power user, but I can switch between servers and even create them, though I'm not great at all the setup yet.As far as talking? Easy stuff. I've never had any problems connecting to voice channels or text

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? I tried it like 2 months ago because our online learning was held there. Yeah, clickables which don't appear all time because the web interface is so huge that it can't load the whole thing at once, well, for quick messages and calls people would need an easy to use app

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Oh yeah,I can't possibly imagine the logistics of shifting my entire friends circle to a new messaging platform. Even close friends are very stubborn in that regard. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559496/#p559496 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Is this problem just happening with the normal skype because I am not facing any such issues in the one which is pre-installed in windows. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559485/#p559485 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Yeah. Its a clickable, not a button. Big difference. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559482/#p559482 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? @Deathstar, Yeah dude, still just as confused. If you can't access it by pressing b, then it isn't a button, is it? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559474/#p559474 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? I assume you have tried it a long time ago, since this is most certainly not the case now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559463/#p559463 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? I've been using Discord well over a year now, and  managed to find my way without any help. And that's telling, since I'm one of the least tech savy blindiies out there. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559461/#p559461 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Oh, really? Buttons are supposed to be found by pressing b. Well, discord ones aren't even visible by this method, and the interface is so cluttered that it takes more hours to figure out how to navigate than actualy using the thing. I mean, it's like that just

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Deathstar, don't know, blind  people have been able to activate buttons ever since they have been able to use the web. As for Telegram, no thanks, I want to be able to read the settings  screan on the mobile app. For Skype, you will encounter the issue as soon as you

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? @Deathstar, Um, what do you mean? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559450/#p559450 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Discord? Are those clickable buttons really that accessible? I don't really think so. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559444/#p559444 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Interestingly, I haven't been experiencing any of the issues you guys have talked about. I'm using the latest version of Skype 8 for desktop (AKA the one that you download from the web, as opposed to from the Microsoft Store  or pre-installed on the machine

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Interestingly, I haven't been experiencing any of the issues you guys have talked about. I'm using the latest version of Skype 8 for desktop (AKA the one that you download from the web, as opposed to from the Microsoft Store  or pre-installed on the machine

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Hi.So this was the first time I've experienced something like this, so it was a bit baffling at first. Again though, I found the windows up arrow and I was told about the Object review thing.As for switching, as said, its a matter of me still using skype as a secondary

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? I just use Miranda ng.  Sadly, that does not provide the voice aspect of it, so it's not an option for anyone who does anything other than IM with people. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559423/#p559423 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? @6. Discord is currently having focus issues with NVDA. If you want, you can switch to the stable version. For the most part its fix over there. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559415/#p559415 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Exactly. In the case of chat apps, it's not as simple as well you just stop using it. It's not even just about switching. I'm not sure how Microsoft can do such low quality accessibility of their app for almost 1 year. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559403

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? MyDearWatson, the OP could have friends on skype who don't want to sswitch to other platforms. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559398/#p559398 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Or you just stop using Skype and switch to Telegram or something.Although Whatsapp web is a bit accessible, and it could be installed as an app, I couldn't figure out how to attach attachments in that. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559391/#p559391

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? This one in Skype isn't rare, it is 100 percent reproducible and happens literally every time you hide it to the tray and bring it up. If it was something rare, I wouldn't be as harsh or frustrated, but we keep getting accessibility issues that happen all the time

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? 4:No. I run Canary. The issue is rare, but it still there. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559370/#p559370 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Or you just maximize it. You don't need to be a super intelligent IT expert to realise. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559368/#p559368 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? @Liam. Are you using the stable version of discord? Cause I have no problem with it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559367/#p559367 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? I've also been having focus issues in Discord. Starting to wonder if it's electron related. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/559364/#p559364 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: Why skype, why?

Re: Why skype, why? Or you press alt to open the menu  and esc to close it, then the keyboard focus is handled again normally. These kinds of issues are what makes me wonder who works on Skype nowadays and do they have 5 minutes of accessibility testing, 5 minutes would be enough to fix