Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : an idiot via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters Well, could it be checked if someone had a game list? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/420908/#p420908 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Nocturnus via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters Delete any account with exactly 2267 posts... Wo how on earth did I ever get so high up there without even realizing it! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/420867/#p420867 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters Hello,Since you log in with the same credentials to audiogames.net and the forum, I think deleting the accounts would mean deleting their favourite audiogame lists as well. What if someone never posted but they had a favourite games list? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/420863/#p420863 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters To be clear, this is *only*, concerning accounts with 0 posts. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/420557/#p420557 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Juliantheaudiogamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters Hi,@Turtlepower: I might have misinterpreted SLJ's post.I thought he suggested deleting all accounts that didn't log in to their account for 6 months, which, as I said in my last post, is problematic. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/420430/#p420430 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters @Juliantheaudiogamer: Good point. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/420233/#p420233 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-18
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : turtlepower17 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters Aren't we talking about only deleting accounts which have zero posts, though? I fail to see how a developer's account, of all things, would go inactive, since presumably they would have posted about a project they had either released or which was in the works, thus it wouldn't matter if they hadn't visited the forum in awhile. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/420160/#p420160 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-18
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Juliantheaudiogamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters Hi,I would delete all 0 post accounts which are older than 6 months.However, I'll have to disagree with SLJ about deleting all accounts that haven't been active for six months, because for example some develepoers might post about a game they have in the works, then they might not post about it for a while but then come back with an update.I imagine they'd be pretty annoyed if they find their account deleted. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/420098/#p420098 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-18
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : zakc93 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters Agreed with deleting inactive accounts that have 0 posts. In order to get unrestricted you must have made at least one post in the intro topic, so if an account has 0 posts for 6 months they are probably not going to be used. If banning an account would affect someone who made another account because they forgot a password, then it's maybe not the best option. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419971/#p419971 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-18
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : MasterOfDeath via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters Agreed, SLJ. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419955/#p419955 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters Hi.I'll say just delete them, if they have not been active for 6 months. By saying "active," I mean if they have not visited their account for 6 months, not if they have not posted for 6 months.Reason: Some members might use their accounts to quickly check for new posts since their last visit. One of my friends is doing that, and he only make like one post of the year. Other people might use their accounts for private messages.Then I'll say delete, not ban, because that might not make people able to make an account in the future. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419925/#p419925 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-17
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : flackers via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters What's the point in joining a forum if you're not going to post. I say delete them. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419913/#p419913 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-17
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : katil2008 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters Delete them. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419852/#p419852 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-17
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Mayana via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters @#15 that's indeed a good point. Since most of these spambots spammed a long time ago, it's unlikely that they'll return even if their IP is no longer banned. And if they do, the new restrictions in place should prevent them from causing too much trouble. So there might potentially be a bit more work in the future if the spambots learn they're no longer banned, but some space will be saved and plenty of usernames will be available for reuse.However, like I mentioned above, it's unlikely accounts take up all that much space. So even if the admins decide to keep the spammers banned to make sure they can't come back and spam in the future, I'll understand their choice. So I'm kind of neutral on this one, at least unless it turns out that accounts actually take plenty of space (unlikely) and/or there's not a lot of free space on the server left. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419851/#p419851 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-17
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Mayana via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters @#15 that's indeed a good point. Since most of these spambots spammed a long time ago, it's unlikely that they'll return even if their IP is no longer banned. And if they do, the new restrictions in place should prevent them from causing too much trouble.However, like I mentioned above, it's unlikely accounts take up all that much space. So even if the admins decide to keep the spammers banned to make sure they can't come back and spam in the future, I'll understand their choice. So I'm kind of neutral on this one, at least unless it turns out that accounts actually take plenty of space (unlikely) and/or there's not a lot of free space on the server left. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419851/#p419851 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-17
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : an idiot via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters There are over 100,000 accounts in the database. I’m pretty sure 90% of those are spambots. They are merely taking up space, they should go. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419845/#p419845 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-17
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Mayana via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters What exactly would banning those accounts accomplish? They're not posting anyway, and if you ban them, they'll still be in the database as unusable names. So you won't cut down on spam and you won't save space in the database. If one of the mods could provide even just one good reason for this, I'd be very thankful.Deleting, meanwhile, seems more reasonable. At least that way the name will be available for use again. It can either be used by some new person, or the previous owner if it turns out they want to start participating on the forum. It's unlikely accounts take much space up on the server, but if there's plenty of them, it might still be a good way to save a few megabytes. Every bit helps, right?However, I disagree with the criteria for banning. I personally think it shouldn't be based on when the account was created, since as posts #6 and #10 already pointed out, a person could create an account just to have the handy perks of being able to easily check new posts, having 75 posts on one page, giving thumbs up to posts they like, sending private messages, etc. I used to lurk for quite a bit before I found a topic I wanted to post in, and there's nothing wrong with that.Instead, if mods have access to that info, they should check when the user last logged in. If that was a long time ago, then it's probably safe to delete the account. That time should be at least 6 months, though I'd prefer 9 or even 12.This, of course, doesn't apply to spambots. Any account that's already banned stays banned and shouldn't be deleted. But we can probably assume that those accounts that have 0 posts but aren't banned aren't spambots, since they'd likely be banned otherwise. Of course, a spambot or two might end up getting deleted this way, but if they could make it this long without spamming, they're bad at their job anyway. So if they end up recreating the account to continue being a silent, useless robot, that's fine. I won't judge ... much.Other websites that delete accounts after a long inactivity usually send the user a warning first. So if it would be possible to modify the forum's code so it would send an automatic email once someone with 0 posts has been inactive for long enough, that'd be cool. However, that seems unlikely to happen. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419842/#p419842 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-17
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Mayana via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters What exactly would banning those accounts accomplish? They're not posting anyway, and if you ban them, they'll still be in the database as unusable names. So you won't cut down on spam and you won't save space in the database. If one of the mods could provide even just one good reason for this, I'd be very thankful.Deleting, meanwhile, seems more reasonable. At least that way the name will be available for use again. It can either be used by some new person, or the previous owner if it turns out they want to start participating on the forum. It's unlikely accounts take much space up on the server, but if there's plenty of them, it might still be a good way to save a few megabytes. Every bit helps, right?However, I disagree with the criteria for banning. I personally think it shouldn't be based on when the account was created, since as posts #6 and #10 already pointed out, a person could create an account just to have the handy perks of being able to easily check new posts, having 75 posts on one page, giving thumbs up to posts they like, sending private messages, etc. I used to lurk for quite a bit before I found a topic I wanted to post in, and there's nothing wrong with that.Instead, if mods have access to that info, they should check when the user last logged in. If that was a long time ago, then it's probably safe to delete the account. That time should be at least 6 months, though I'd prefer 9 or even 12.Other websites that delete accounts after a long inactivity usually send the user a warning first. So if it would be possible to modify the forum's code so it would send an automatic email once someone with 0 posts has been inactive for long enough, that'd be cool. However, that seems unlikely to happen. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419842/#p419842 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-17
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : MasterOfDeath via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters Exactly, agreed with Dark. I also created an account many years ago, absolutely forgot the name and the password, and nearly everything, so if they banned my ip, they would probably ban this account as well, together with that one. So at the beginning they should take the bans one by one and check the details of the accounts. And it wouldn't be a good idea to ban those who didn't post in the last 6 months, cause many developers have their accounts too, and if they post only when a new game is released by them, um well, you just can't tell them like ey, make up something in every month. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419821/#p419821 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters I fully well agree that there is no point keeping accounts that have zero posts around, provided the respective account holders have had ample time to actually make posts on the forum, E.G six months. In terms of banning or deleting though, I am more in favour of banning the accounts. I suspect a large proportion of those accounts will be spambots anyway, who either attempted to post on the forum and failed, or use the accounts to send spam pms to people. If the accounts are deleted, then the same spambots could reregister and do the same thing again, and we'd be in exactly the same position. If the accounts are banned though, then not only the spambot accounts themselves, but also details like their IP ranges are banned too, which makes further spambot registration from the same source less likely. This is why, even though we used to delete all topics and posts by spambots, we'd still ban the accounts, rather than delete them.The only down side with that approach, is that you do risk accidentally banning someone who say created an account, forgot what email they created the account with and so made another one, though how great this risk is, being the accounts in question are after all completely inactive ones I don't know. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419775/#p419775 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters I fully well agree that there is no point keeping accounts that have zero posts around, provided the respective account holders have had ample time actually make posts on the forum. In terms of banning or deleting though, I am more in favour of banning the accounts. I suspect a large proportion of those accounts will be spambots anyway, who either attempted to post on the forum and failed, or use the accounts to send spam pms to people. If the accounts are deleted, then the same spambots could reregister and do the same thing again, and we'd be in exactly the same position. If the accounts are banned though, then not only the spambot accounts themselves, but also details like their IP ranges are banned too, which makes further spambot registration from the same source less likely. The only down side with that approach, is that you do risk accidentally banning someone who say created an account, forgot what email they created the account with and so made another one, though how great this risk is, being the accounts in question are after all completely inactive ones I don't know. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419775/#p419775 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters banning, nahdeleting, yes URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419692/#p419692 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters Nah, I see the logic, but say someone gets an account mainly to give karma, that or they mean to post but just don't get around to it. That is why we have restricted accounts at first. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419662/#p419662 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters should delete accounts without posts at least one! URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419650/#p419650 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-16
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : turtlepower17 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters I agree with deleting them rather than banning. If it is a legitimate person and not a spambot, that way they're free to sign up again and hopefully contribute. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419616/#p419616 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-16
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters I agree, purge them. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419600/#p419600 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-16
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Origine via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters Clearly they didn't introduce themselves. I think a good spring cleaning is always a good idea. However, one potential use case of an account without posting would be to have 75 posts/topics per page URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419531/#p419531 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-16
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : mahdi-abedi via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters yes, with criteria six months ago URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419481/#p419481 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-16
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Muhammad Hajjar via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters I'm with deleting those accounts. Banning them will do nothing since they would stay in the list. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419479/#p419479 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
2019-03-16
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AudioGames . net Forum — Site and forum feedback : Ian Reed via Audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters I'm also for clearing out the unused accounts, but I'm not sure how banning them helps anything.It seems much better to delete them.Banning them would leave all the unused accounts around, continueing to clutter the user list, but it would stop them from posting, which obviously wasn't a problem to begin with. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419476/#p419476 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters
Re: potentially contravirtial: should we purge the forum of 0posters I'm all in favour of trimming the detritus. Slash and burn away. If they were real forum members, they'd probably have at least 1 post already, since (in general) people usually only sign up because they want to chime in or contribute.Kai URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/419397/#p419397 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
