Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another question for Sean

2008-07-12 Thread Nonreality
Mike Meyer;319009 Wrote: Hopefully Sean does too. :)Hopefully Sean has a wife and kids that have big problems with DVD's. :) -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Question for Sean

2008-07-12 Thread Pascal Hibon
StigErik;316883 Wrote: Using very long high-capsaitance cables may be a much bigger problem. If the distances are getting long then you should use the balanced outputs. Balanced outputs are made for running long cables. This is why these types of in- and outputs are used in professional audio

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dows the server have any influence on the music?

2008-07-12 Thread Teus de Jong
Pale Blue Ego;319096 Wrote: The 384 RAM was destroying the sound. Your 128-MB stick of RAM was out of balance with the 256-MB stick. Always use balanced pairs of RAM in a music server. First rule of computer audio. A pity that my NAS has only unbalanced RAM :-) Teus -- Teus de Jong

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dows the server have any influence on the music?

2008-07-12 Thread Kuben72
I knew there was a explanation. :) -- Kuben72 /Kuben72 Kuben72's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15308 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49763

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dows the server have any influence on the music?

2008-07-12 Thread Nuuk
Only possible explanation that I can think of is how much 'trash' the CPU of the server machine puts onto the mains. If you want to try out this theory, swap the PSU's over and see if you still notice the same effect. -- Nuuk

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dows the server have any influence on the music?

2008-07-12 Thread andynormancx
It is possible that you settings are slightly different on your new install. Perhaps you how have automatic volume turned on ? (which would make music play back louder and therefore sound better) Or maybe you accidentally had bitrate limiting turned on before ? -- andynormancx Yes, it will.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WIfi or hard wire between server and squeezebox

2008-07-12 Thread Willie B
Hi - I have been using a squeezebox for a few months with a wifi connection to my home computer. I am now thinking of going down the dedicated server route. We are about to install wood floors in lounge and hall so I have the opportunity to stick a server in the understairs cupboard and run a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WIfi or hard wire between server and squeezebox

2008-07-12 Thread Phil Leigh
Willie B;319132 Wrote: Hi - I have been using a squeezebox for a few months with a wifi connection to my home computer. I am now thinking of going down the dedicated server route. We are about to install wood floors in lounge and hall so I have the opportunity to stick a server in the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Question to Audiophiles

2008-07-12 Thread darrenyeats
I think it depends on the type of equipment. IMO there is no excuse for sources or amps to be anything other than accurate. To deviate from accuracy is to reduce the application of that source or amp to systems which complement that deviation. I don't understand why any designer would do that.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dows the server have any influence on the music?

2008-07-12 Thread Kuben72
It is not possible to switch PSU. They are completely different. I have checked my settings on the new server but they are completely the same. And I would be surprised if they where not since SC was copied from the old to the new one. The funny ting is that my wife didn't know I had switch

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another question for Sean

2008-07-12 Thread eiret
I dont think Sean has time to watch movies.. -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49745

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dows the server have any influence on the music?

2008-07-12 Thread Pale Blue Ego
Kuben72;319144 Wrote: The funny ting is that my wife didn't know I had switch servers and she had noticed the same thing. Hmm...in my experience, that kind of anecdotal evidence carries a lot of weight. There may actually be something about the new server that is affecting the sound, as

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WIfi or hard wire between server and squeezebox

2008-07-12 Thread avta
I agree with Phil. I've compared both in my system a few times and cannot tell the difference. -- avta avta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1860 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dows the server have any influence on the music?

2008-07-12 Thread Phil Leigh
Pale Blue Ego;319174 Wrote: Hmm...in my experience, that kind of anecdotal evidence carries a lot of weight. There may actually be something about the new server that is affecting the sound, as implausible as that would seem. Think about everything that has changed, not just the server

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another question for Sean

2008-07-12 Thread Phil Leigh
eiret;319158 Wrote: I dont think Sean has time to watch movies.. I have a few hundred in crates ready to ship to him... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Question to Audiophiles

2008-07-12 Thread Rodney_Gold
Their are certain colourations that cannot be introduced at the speaker stage only , for example the sonics of a valve amp/pre or the colouration of a cartridge/phono stage etc. -- Rodney_Gold Sb3/Z-sys RDP1/meridian DSP5500's TP/X-cans v3/Senns 650's TP/TACT 2.0/SCM 50a's TP/Meridian

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Question to Audiophiles

2008-07-12 Thread StigErik
Rodney_Gold;319098 Wrote: If you have ever listened to a completely flat setup in an anechoic chamber you will not be impressed or be able to listen for long. Spot on! Thats the problem with most audiophiles - they want something that is more exiting and with more vivid colors than whats

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Question to Audiophiles

2008-07-12 Thread Pat Farrell
Rodney_Gold wrote: If you have ever listened to a completely flat setup in an anechoic chamber you will not be impressed or be able to listen for long. More than this. Humans don't like anechoic chambers. You won't want to stay in one very long with any kind of music. They are just too weird.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WIfi or hard wire between server and squeezebox

2008-07-12 Thread Pat Farrell
Phil Leigh wrote: Wireless vs wired makes NO difference to sound quality. Wireless either works or it doesn't Type of ethernet cable makes NO difference to sound quality But, given that most of the cost of installing cable is the labor, not the wire, there is no reason not to run good CAT6

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Question to Audiophiles

2008-07-12 Thread JJZolx
Don't know where you got your definition. Or pfareel, for that matter. The world isn't quite so black and white and neither is music reproduction. The goal is music. What makes music enjoyable? Accuracy is too easy a term to throw out. Does anyone want accuracy (or detail or extended lows

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WIfi or hard wire between server and squeezebox

2008-07-12 Thread Phil Leigh
pfarrell;319221 Wrote: Phil Leigh wrote: Wireless vs wired makes NO difference to sound quality. Wireless either works or it doesn't Type of ethernet cable makes NO difference to sound quality But, given that most of the cost of installing cable is the labor, not the wire, there

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Question to Audiophiles

2008-07-12 Thread Phil Leigh
JJZolx;319225 Wrote: Don't know where you got your definition. Or pfareel, for that matter. The world isn't quite so black and white and neither is music reproduction. The goal is music. What makes music enjoyable? Accuracy is too easy a term to throw out. Does anyone want accuracy

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WIfi or hard wire between server and squeezebox

2008-07-12 Thread Pat Farrell
Phil Leigh wrote: Always use copper in preference to radios, assuming that you are doing construction. Pat, yes but as you well know, CAT6 won't affect AUDIO quality. Of course one should use decent ethernet cable for its NETWORKING properties... For sure. Unless you buy big bucks

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Out Damm Sibilance !

2008-07-12 Thread BigTony
Ok, i'm offically going mad. I bi-amped my speakers earlier in the week, lots of bass and better top end, but with quite a handful of sibilance . After a few days i reverted back to single wiring . But the sibilance is still there not as pronounced. So after checking wiring etc, i grabbed my

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Out Damm Sibilance !

2008-07-12 Thread Eric Seaberg
Are you running digital into your receiver with both SB3 and CD player? I've heard stuff like this in the studio where we had wordclock issues between pieces of gear. Since SACD doesn't put out a digital signal (muted, by design) you're forced to listen via analog inputs. If so, I'd look at

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Question to Audiophiles

2008-07-12 Thread Eric Seaberg
What keeps this 'business' alive is the fact that music, and the listening of it, is TOTALLY subjective by the user. We may both have the same musical tastes and the exact CD copy yet hear it differently, even on the same set of speakers/monitors. The same holds true for the recording of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Out Damm Sibilance !

2008-07-12 Thread BigTony
I'm running into a standalone DAC. The headphone output on the SB3 also comes across with sibilance . I'll try the analogue out, and a new digital cable. Will i never learn to not muck about with things when they are sounding great! BT -- BigTony We're Only In It For The Music!

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ModWright Transporter experience: truth vs. beauty?

2008-07-12 Thread Grenamc
darrenyeats;317708 Wrote: Michael, You are absolutely right about SNR decreasing. The only thing I would add is that this factor is the only thing to worry about. Bits don't come into it. The reason is that by the time any bits are lost they are lost at the small end, and that is buried

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another question for Sean

2008-07-12 Thread eiret
HDMI - *translates to* - Happy Doing Movie Interface -- eiret eiret's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11521 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49745

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dows the server have any influence on the music?

2008-07-12 Thread Kuben72
Yes it could be a defect PSU, but since the server doesn't transcode the music it is hard to believe that it could have any effect. But never the less... Actually the new server isn't pluged to the same powersupply as the old one. Since I am still testing it I won't move it into my serverroom

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Open Question to Audiophiles

2008-07-12 Thread connorml
StigErik;319215 Wrote: Spot on! Thats the problem with most audiophiles - they want something that is more exiting and with more vivid colors than whats actually there on the source material. Myself on the other hand wants to hear the source material, for good or worse. In that respect,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Last.fm bitrate

2008-07-12 Thread auronthas
Great and cool. Now I can listen to my own recommendation,as well as friends, neightbours in last.fm. I thought only users from US can listen to last.fm previously. I am from Malaysia. :) -- auronthas Auronthas Tajima Power Conditioner #61614; Squeezebox 3 / Cambridge Audio 540C V2 #61614;

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Harmony One remote with Transporter.

2008-07-12 Thread Ross101
Will the universal Remote, like the Harmony One, show the artist and or play-lists on its screen while it is communicating with the Transporter. I'm not as interested in album art but so see the artist or play-list would be great. Thanks for any info. -Ross -- Ross101

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another question for Sean

2008-07-12 Thread DCtoDaylight
eiret;319292 Wrote: HDMI - *translates to* - Happy Doing Movie Interface We will have to wait and see if it ever gets used as such, but HDMI could also be Happy Doing Musical Interface. After all, in version 1.3 it fully supports hi res audio, in both PCM and DSD. Cheers, Dave --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WIfi or hard wire between server and squeezebox

2008-07-12 Thread DCtoDaylight
I gotta agree with Pat here, if you're running copper, why not future proof and run CAT6? It's not required, even for Gigabit ethernet CAT5e is fine, but it the cost difference is small compared to the labour and effort. -- DCtoDaylight Audiophile wish list: Zero Distortion, Infinite Signal

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Harmony One remote with Transporter.

2008-07-12 Thread dem
The Harmony One, as great as it is, is a one-way infra-red remote, so what you're looking for is not possible. As you're probably aware, the SB Controller does exactly what you're looking for, but it's not a universal remote. -- dem Dave

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Harmony One remote with Transporter.

2008-07-12 Thread Ross101
Dave. Thanks, I sort of figured that but wasn't sure.. -Ross -- Ross101 Ross101's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18290 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49801

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox v3 cabling ?

2008-07-12 Thread NewBuyer
Provos;319075 Wrote: Since you have a receiver which probably has a decent optical in, and the SB3 has a good quality optical out, the answer is YES you should try a qualitiy optical cable. This cable should be glass rather than plastic. The plastic ones can perform poorly. By using Toslink

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Dows the server have any influence on the music?

2008-07-12 Thread NewBuyer
Phil Leigh;319195 Wrote: ...The other possibility is that the PSU in the other PC was defective and emitting cr*p into the mains - in which case plugging it back in will degrade the sound... If there in fact is a sonic difference here, then this noisy PSU idea is most likely the culprit in