Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] NAS questions

2010-02-05 Thread Phil Leigh
richardw;513447 Wrote: true. 1's and 0's are funny things. digital cables are a method to move them and can sound dramatically different moving identical bit perfect information. shouldn't but do. when my laptop reached the max and i began this process (looking for storage etc) it started to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] NAS questions

2010-02-05 Thread Phil Leigh
Richard - it might be worth comparing your 2 versions of the server.prefs file to see if there is anything in there that is different (but not visible in the WEB UI) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter over ethernet

2010-02-05 Thread Themis
Phil is right to rant, imho. On the other hand, saying that everything is nonsense if it is not backed up by an ABX test is not a good approach imho. Not in the state of the current ABX implementation for audio. I prefer a middle approach. The one that Phil takes, usually, is a middle approach:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Always On - Transporter option

2010-02-05 Thread garym
Quick question. I noticed with my Transporter that one of my audio options is Audio Always On vs power down audio when off. Any thoughts on why I would want one vs the other? Leaving audio always on, doesn't seem to interfere with the fact that when I stop (pause) music I get the weather screen

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter over ethernet

2010-02-05 Thread Phil Leigh
Themis;514082 Wrote: Phil is right to rant, imho. On the other hand, saying that everything is nonsense if it is not backed up by an ABX test is not a good approach imho. Not in the state of the current ABX implementation for audio. I prefer a middle approach. The one that Phil takes,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Always On - Transporter option

2010-02-05 Thread DaveWr
Audio always on / off is for a variety of uses. Historically, some people wanted it off when the attached Squeeze XYZ was off, as their DAC amplifier etc would shut down automatically with no signal. Others wanted the digital audio to remain on, as their DAC etc had a delay to sync with a music

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter over ethernet

2010-02-05 Thread nolesrule
Phil Leigh;514105 Wrote: By the way, here's another moneysaving tip. Don't waste money on fancy support platforms for the SB3 or Touch if you use an external DAC. I did a test with a cordless hammer drill and a piece of plywood underneath them and there was no difference in the spdif output

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Always On - Transporter option

2010-02-05 Thread garym
aha! So in my case, with transporter direct to preamp (that i turn on/off manually) this setting is not relevant with regard to the TRANSPORTER itself (i.e., leaving audio always on is not causing the transporter to keep things on that shouldn't be on 24/7. -- garym

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter over ethernet

2010-02-05 Thread Phil Leigh
nolesrule;514116 Wrote: But did you test the drill to see whether or not the vibrations it caused were a harmonious frequency to the crystal? ;) drat! - no. when I get time I will try at different drill speeds... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Always On - Transporter option

2010-02-05 Thread DaveWr
I would leave it as is. It's not going to cause any wear. Dave -- DaveWr DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74930

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter over ethernet

2010-02-05 Thread seanadams
garym;514066 Wrote: NONE of them have ever been able to correctly identify even a 128kbs mp3 compared to FLAC or CD on my better than average home system (with Transporter as my digital player direct into analog inputs of preamp). Really? At 128K I can do that easily, even on a crap system.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter over ethernet

2010-02-05 Thread Pat Farrell
seanadams wrote: I guess you do have to know what to listen for. Most people probably focus on the tone and timbre in the foreground which is where mp3 has the least difficulty. The design goals of MP3 were to get the sound that most people focus on to be good, and ignore the subtle stuff. A

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter over ethernet

2010-02-05 Thread seanadams
Phil Leigh;514105 Wrote: By the way, here's another moneysaving tip. Don't waste money on fancy support platforms for the SB3 or Touch if you use an external DAC. I did a test with a cordless hammer drill and a piece of plywood underneath them and there was no difference in the spdif

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter over ethernet

2010-02-05 Thread cliveb
Phil Leigh;514105 Wrote: I'm not a fan of ABX testing as mandated on HydrogenAudio. I'm actually not a fan of any test that involves an assessment by the human brain (including mine!) since it is all too easily swayed by factors such as mood, expectation, alcohol (oops) etc. The reason I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter over ethernet

2010-02-05 Thread nolesrule
nolesrule;514116 Wrote: But did you test the drill to see whether or not the vibrations it caused were a harmonious frequency to the crystal? ;) Ack! I meant harmonic frequency. Guess the coffee hadn't kicked in yet. -- nolesrule

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter over ethernet

2010-02-05 Thread m1abrams
Kuro;513955 Wrote: If the packets received via Wifi is in spur due to various reasons (latency, poor signal range, etc.), then more jitter will happen on the output buffer. Going to a wired connection is better, because the packets are coming in at a more steady pace. I thought

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter over ethernet

2010-02-05 Thread Phil Leigh
seanadams;514140 Wrote: You mean no -detectable- difference. I'm pretty sure I could contrive a scenario that would demonstrate that but it would probably involve some high frequency transducer directly against the crystal and a scope or spectrum analyzer to look at the s/pdif. Many

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter over ethernet

2010-02-05 Thread garym
seanadams;514131 Wrote: Really? At 128K I can do that easily, even on a crap system. Try focusing on the drums, cymbals, and audience clapping in a live concert recording. The attack is muddy and you will sometimes also hear little squeaky artifacts. AAC, by the way, tries to address this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter over ethernet

2010-02-05 Thread seanadams
Phil Leigh;514160 Wrote: I'd call a -144dB null no difference :-) Yep, me too. Just pointing out where there is still wiggle room for people to claim they can hear stuff at that level (of course, while refusing to ABX). -- seanadams

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter over ethernet

2010-02-05 Thread Themis
Phil Leigh;514105 Wrote: By the way, here's another moneysaving tip. Don't waste money on fancy support platforms for the SB3 or Touch if you use an external DAC. I did a test with a cordless hammer drill and a piece of plywood underneath them and there was no difference in the spdif

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Always On - Transporter option

2010-02-05 Thread seanadams
It saves a little electricity but one thing to be aware of is that the outputs may give a small low frequency thump during power on/off. This is not a problem with correct gain staging. As for auto-sensing amps - Transporter's outputs are so quiet that they are actually quieter when ON (actively

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter over ethernet

2010-02-05 Thread earwaxer
Andy8421;513953 Wrote: Earwaxer, I have searched computeraudiophile.com and I was unable to find Gordon suggesting that he could hear the difference between USB cables using his 'async' process. Can you post a link to this? Thanks, Andy. All you have to do is log on and ask

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice Please

2010-02-05 Thread Daverz
Aiff is an uncompressed format that can be tagged with ID3 tags, but I still see no reason not to use flac. -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter over ethernet

2010-02-05 Thread dizzysnakepilot
i dont know where people are getting source files good enough to hear all these differences. with the transporter, primarily i hear all the limitations and characteristics of the source recording and musicians ability. i move a speaker 1 inch and it sounds different, my wife walks in the room

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice Please

2010-02-05 Thread cunobelinus
Flac won't work with iTunes, or iPods. Although neither would appear to be of any importance to the OP, those are, nevertheless, two reasons for those who want to use their libraries with an iPod as well as SB. On 6 Feb 2010, at 03:29, Daverz wrote: Aiff is an uncompressed format that can

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter over ethernet

2010-02-05 Thread Phil Leigh
Themis;514282 Wrote: I consider that equipment should sit on the feet the designer put on it. Only my Rega P3 sits on a Mission Isoplat, the rest is one on the other. Long time ago I did some tests with feet etc, but never noticed anything, not even on CD layers. Others think differently.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice Please

2010-02-05 Thread Phil Leigh
earwaxer;512372 Wrote: Ditto on the ripper - EAC or dbpoweramp. If you have the space rip to WAV. No downsides to WAV - it comes right off the disk. dbpoweramp has better functionality for album art etc. It also can rip 20 bit HDCD to 24 bit files (with the last 4 bits empty). dbp can rip

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice Please

2010-02-05 Thread Mnyb
Daverz;514403 Wrote: Aiff is an uncompressed format that can be tagged with ID3 tags, but I still see no reason not to use flac. WAV's get transcoded to FLAC by default so it uses more cpu on the server. Sound is exactly the same , no it makes no difference, *no* it really don't makes any

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice Please

2010-02-05 Thread tomjtx
Mnyb;514445 Wrote: WAV's get transcoded to FLAC by default so it uses more cpu on the server. Sound is exactly the same , no it makes no difference, *no* it really don't makes any difference ;) thats a fact. Flac support embedded artwork replay gain tags embedded cue sheets. If you