SoftwireEngineer;548775 Wrote:
Yes..I was/am(?) planning to buy such a DAC..but it would cost me the
DAC, Preamp and Amp. For the price, my Panasonic is not shabby..The
fact the sound has improved greatly with the Touch validates my theory
that my receiver is not the bottleneck. Most likely
Thank you, mswlogo
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Hi
I am using Transporter with Behringer DEQ2496 in FX loop.
I can now see clearly that certain albums are recorded with clipping.
How can I reduce digital amplitude of the signal before it fed into
DEQ?
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michael123;548958 Wrote:
Hi
I am using Transporter with Behringer DEQ2496 in FX loop.
I can now see clearly that certain albums are recorded with clipping.
How can I reduce digital amplitude of the signal before it fed into
DEQ?
You know that won't work?
Once the signal has been lost by
I opened Money For Nothing (FLAC) from Brothers In Arms (DVD-A), and
using Audacity/Find Clipping found a lot of fragments..
Running sox on the server is an option, but I do not want to do that
for high-rez files, it will be very heavy
BTW, some other DACs know to overcome this..
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michael123;548965 Wrote:
I opened Money For Nothing (FLAC) from Brothers In Arms (DVD-A), and
using Audacity/Find Clipping found a lot of fragments..
Running sox on the server is an option, but I do not want to do that
for high-rez files, it will be very heavy
BTW, some other DACs know
snarlydwarf
certain DACs, such as Audio Logic XL, do handle this record without
distortion.
Transporter is just garbage in/garbage out...
I have SHM-CD version of same album, and it goes without clipping and
sounds better..
No cure?
What do you do, guys?
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You need to seek out better masters of your favourite music. Often the
oldest releases are the best. Coincidentally these are the cheapest,
for e.g. in Amazon Marketplace.
Darren
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On 19/05/10 18:15, michael123 wrote:
snarlydwarf
certain DACs, such as Audio Logic XL, do handle this record without
distortion.
Transporter is just garbage in/garbage out...
I have SHM-CD version of same album, and it goes without clipping and
sounds better..
No cure?
What do
michael123;548967 Wrote:
snarlydwarf
certain DACs, such as Audio Logic XL, do handle this record without
distortion (extrapolation?)
Transporter is just garbage in/garbage out...
I have SHM-CD version of same album, and it goes without clipping and
sounds better..
No cure?
What
Robin Bowes;548970 Wrote:
On 19/05/10 18:15, michael123 wrote:
snarlydwarf
certain DACs, such as Audio Logic XL, do handle this record without
distortion.
Transporter is just garbage in/garbage out...
I have SHM-CD version of same album, and it goes without clipping
and
Phil Leigh;548978 Wrote:
No they don't. They simply subsitute something else for the clipping -
something they invented. They have NO idea what the signal is supposed
to look like in the clipped region.
This DVD-A sounds fine to me. I have 5 different versions of this album
and I prefer
michael123;548985 Wrote:
So, maybe my rip is not good..
Phil,
I did again, and analyzed 6-channel WAV file in Audacity.
There is clipping there.
So, then, maybe the disk is not good, and I return to original question
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On 19/05/10 19:15, michael123 wrote:
Robin Bowes;548970 Wrote:
What's probably happening is that the DEQ output is too high. Try
turning that down. I had the same problem.
R.
Yes? How do I do that?
By adjusting the output level of the DEQ - I forget which menu it's in.
R.
Spend your money elsewhere. I actually returned a few CDs in the mid
90s when this loudness garbage first started - thinking they were
defective. I finally learned 5-6 years back that these products are
actually defective by design. Its sad - but they really have ruined
some very good music
Robin Bowes;548995 Wrote:
On 19/05/10 19:15, michael123 wrote:
Robin Bowes;548970 Wrote:
What's probably happening is that the DEQ output is too high. Try
turning that down. I had the same problem.
R.
Yes? How do I do that?
By adjusting the output level of the DEQ - I
On 19/05/10 21:25, michael123 wrote:
Reading through manual, could it be Gain Offset (EQ) on Utility menu?
That could be it.
R.
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michael123;548965 Wrote:
I opened Money For Nothing (FLAC) from Brothers In Arms (DVD-A), and
using Audacity/Find Clipping found a lot of fragments..
Running sox on the server is an option, but I do not want to do that
for high-rez files, it will be very heavy
BTW, some other DACs know
michael123;548993 Wrote:
Phil,
I did again, and analyzed 6-channel WAV file in Audacity.
There is clipping there.
So, then, maybe the disk is not good, and I return to original question
The first 90 seconds of that graph looks fine. The rest looks like
poop, but that may very well just
I don't believe Brothers in Arms is a good example of loudness wars -
I consider it to have about the most dynamic range of anything in my
collection... it doesn't seem afraid to have quiet sections of music.
I suspect the issue here is with the outboard hardware.
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Still, the question is why some DACs (such as Audio Logic XL) do
reproduce better recordings with clipping
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Robin Bowes;549017 Wrote:
On 19/05/10 21:25, michael123 wrote:
Reading through manual, could it be Gain Offset (EQ) on Utility
menu?
That could be it.
R.
So, do you think that DEQ inflates overall gain during EQ
processing?
To which value did you set that property, could you
michael123;549086 Wrote:
Still, the question is why some DACs (such as Audio Logic XL) do
reproduce better recordings with clipping,...
Hi Michael123,
Have you read the good article by Chris Tham on this subject? 'Here's
a link if you are interested'
I had a look at Money For Nothing DVDA and it probably does cross the
line a bit in clipping but not in overcompression. 95% of the clipping
is really nothing, the peaks are just brushing the limit and getting
flagged. But there are a few peaks that clearly cross the line. The
track is so loud
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