Mnyb wrote:
The most annoying thing is that they are doing it for nothing as radio
stations compress and levels out things at their end...*cut*...
Take a quick peak out of the window. Not difficult to spot folks with
white thingies hanging of heads. You can´t argue that some compression
bhaagensen wrote:
Take a quick peak out of the window. Not difficult to spot folks with
white thingies hanging of heads. You can´t argue that some compression
serves its purpose there :)
There is certainly no doubt that lots of dynamic range compression is
required when listening to music on
cliveb wrote:
Once again the iPod lags behind. (For example, how many years did it
take Apple to understand gapless playback?)
Perhaps in a few more years they'll figure out compression.
And a few more decades after that for Apple to recognize flac.
cliveb wrote:
The correct place to apply this level of compression is *in the playback
device*, and have it switchable/adjustable.
Indeed, mastering should be done at runtime on as unprocessed files as
possible, and using player-dependent parameters. But thats not reality,
nor is it for the
bhaagensen wrote:
Lets not discuss Apples priorities in their products. They are one among
a gazillion manufacturers of portable players with different design and
features - its a different matter.
partly true and partly misguided:
True - Apple is only one of many manufacturers of portable
ralphpnj wrote:
Apple IS the dominant force in the marketplace and therefore has the
ability to influence the market much more than any other manufacturer.
In other words, as goes Apple so goes (almost) everyone else.
Assuming you are right and they actually have this ability, audiophile
bhaagensen wrote:
Assuming you are right and they actually have this ability, audiophile
sound quality is far from their core product - nor have they so claimed.
They are a commercial tech company whose main concerns rightfully
include maximizing profits. Their customers brought then into
The formula for hearing recorded music at its very best is:
- Great electronics throughout the chain (no weak links) driving great
speakers
- Position speakers and listening position with little or no compromise
(start at the thirds)
- clean the electricity with a conditioner (lowers noise
bhaagensen wrote:
Yes dynamics is part of most music, though there are mainstream genres
where its less pronounced such as some noise, shoegaze, or ambient.
But its this apparent obsession, c.f. loudness-debate, among audiophiles
that puzzles me. On one hand its portraied as having ruined
darrenyeats wrote:
It's like everyone's given up. One chink of light is THX certification
which has definitely helped better mastering of soundtracks and filmed
concerts. The difference between these and the equivalent CDs is
sometimes striking.
Darren
I guess the answer would be to buy
ralphpnj wrote:
I guess the answer would be to buy the concert DVD when available and
rip the audio from the DVD.
I do exactly that. I can confirm Portishead New York Roseland concert
has way better audio ripped off the DVD.
Darren
darrenyeats wrote:
You can hear modern levels of compression easily on a portable radio.
It's that bad. And it's not talked about widely enough - if it was
perhaps we'd have less of it.
A great many playback systems have a significant dip in the mid-range
(don't get me wrong, no system is
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