Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Humor in latest TAS

2013-05-09 Thread jxydp
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Humor in latest TAS

2013-05-09 Thread jxydp
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does this sound somehow familiar?

2013-05-09 Thread Julf
'Wine tasting is bullshit' (http://io9.com/wine-tasting-is-bullshit-heres-why-496098276) Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some observations about the Benchmark DAC1

2013-05-09 Thread darrenyeats
Very nicely done. Am I right to include the volume reduction makes the ASRC/upsampling much less of an issue then? Darren darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Humor in latest TAS

2013-05-09 Thread probedb
Julf wrote: Not true! There are all those sharp square bit-shaped steps in the signal. And anyway, you can't get the timing more precise than a sample interval! (yes, purely joking - aren't those the top 2 misconceptions about digital?) Indeed :) As I've already posted, anyone that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Humor in latest TAS

2013-05-09 Thread ralphpnj
Julf wrote: Not true! There are all those sharp square bit-shaped steps in the signal. And anyway, you can't get the timing more precise than a sample interval! (yes, purely joking - aren't those the top 2 misconceptions about digital?) That's so PCM! Don't you know that the asynchronous

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Humor in latest TAS

2013-05-09 Thread Julf
ralphpnj wrote: That's so PCM! Don't you know that the asynchronous USB + $500 USB cable + DSD combo solves all these problems, why just look at a recent issue of any high end audio magazine :) Or if it doesn't solve the issue, at least it covers up the sharp corners with HF hash and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Humor in latest TAS

2013-05-09 Thread ralphpnj
Julf wrote: Or if it doesn't solve the issue, at least it covers up the sharp corners with HF hash and intermodulation that makes the sound analog, natural and tube-y :) Man, you are such a bring down! ralphpnj's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some observations about the Benchmark DAC1

2013-05-09 Thread Archimago
darrenyeats wrote: Well ferreted Archimago. Am I right to conclude the volume reduction lets the ASRC/upsampling work with minimal impact, then? Darren Yes Darren, That's what I'm able to demonstrate with the Teac's 24/192 upsampling. A -3dB attenuation will allow the upsampling to work

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some observations about the Benchmark DAC1

2013-05-09 Thread Wombat
Thank you! Would be interesting why SoX does so bad because it is perfect at downsampling. I also wonder how many devices offered in the past did really bad upsampling while called high-end audiophile. On the other side squarewaves are not exactly music so this all is very theoretical.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some observations about the Benchmark DAC1

2013-05-09 Thread Archimago
Wombat wrote: Thank you! Would be interesting why SoX does so bad because it is perfect at downsampling. I also wonder how many devices offered in the past did really bad upsampling while called high-end audiophile. On the other side squarewaves are not exactly music so this all is very

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does this sound somehow familiar?

2013-05-09 Thread Archimago
Julf wrote: 'Wine tasting is bullshit' (http://io9.com/wine-tasting-is-bullshit-heres-why-496098276) Wow. OMG, pate vs. dog food? Now these are *serious* blind testers! http://www.wine-economics.org/workingpapers/AAWE_WP36.pdf

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another observation about the Benchmark DAC1

2013-05-09 Thread cliveb
Well, actually more an observation about people... For several years, the DAC1 was generally regarded as some kind of gold standard for accuracy in DACs. For sure, some people didn't care for its sonic character (while others loved it), but as far as I recall nobody ever questioned its

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does this sound somehow familiar?

2013-05-09 Thread maggior
A very interesting read. Here's my favorite sentence: If that sentence made you yearn for a glass of classy red, congratulations, there's a very real chance you're a pompous asshole. I think he makes a very good point about perception - we engage ALL of our senses with any stimulus. Eating or

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some observations about the Benchmark DAC1

2013-05-09 Thread darrenyeats
Wombat wrote: Would be interesting why SoX does so bad because it is perfect at downsampling. With down-sampling, there is nothing to do in terms of level adjustment. With up-sampling, you might need level adjustment. But it seems Sox doesn't do -automatic- level adjustment, hence the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another observation about the Benchmark DAC1

2013-05-09 Thread darrenyeats
Clive, I hope that doesn't happen and I don't see any reason for that to happen. I think it's a great DAC-pre and I have no plans to replace my DAC1 HDR. Darren darrenyeats's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does this sound somehow familiar?

2013-05-09 Thread Julf
And then there is the classic BS: 'Pen Teller: BS - The Truth About Bottled Water' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdvJOF-2mm0) (the best part starts at 2:00) Julf's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does this sound somehow familiar?

2013-05-09 Thread ralphpnj
Julf wrote: And then there is the classic BS: 'Pen Teller: BS - The Truth About Bottled Water' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdvJOF-2mm0) (the best part starts at 2:00) Excellent video! Now we need a video of a wine tasting to complete the picture. My favorite part of listening to my

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Some observations about the Benchmark DAC1

2013-05-09 Thread Wombat
darrenyeats wrote: With down-sampling, there is nothing to do in terms of level adjustment. With up-sampling, you might need level adjustment. But it seems Sox doesn't do -automatic- level adjustment, hence the difference for up-sampling and down-sampling. No, with downsampling there is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another observation about the Benchmark DAC1

2013-05-09 Thread Wombat
To bad now several people that claimed the DAC1 sounds sterile and lacking of good sound just link to such results showing clipping. On the other hand Benchmark marketing deserves a compliment on this improvement for the DAC2 and giving reason for an upgrade.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does this sound somehow familiar?

2013-05-09 Thread garym
ralphpnj wrote: I can tell you from first hand experience that you don't want to drink any water that has been in a NYC roof tank because those tanks contain lots of nasty things like dead pigeons, rats, cats, birds, etc. So try to check the exact source before you drink it or, at the very

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does this sound somehow familiar?

2013-05-09 Thread Jeff52
garym wrote: damn Ralph. I've always loved drinking NYC tapwater on my frequent visits to the city. And now that I think about it, it is often in places that likely use roof tanks (old apts downtown or older hotels downtown). Now I'll be thinking about dead creatures with every gulp. ;-)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does this sound somehow familiar?

2013-05-09 Thread Julf
I am glad I live in Amsterdam, where the only concern is dogs (and deer) peeing in the aquifer areas. But then again, people here like the Amstel beer, and if you see what is floating down the Amstel river... Julf's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another observation about the Benchmark DAC1

2013-05-09 Thread darrenyeats
The DACs that are not sterile most likely have the same DSP headroom. I will make it clear in the first post of the PFM thread about the generic nature of the issue. Ta, Darren darrenyeats's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does this sound somehow familiar?

2013-05-09 Thread ralphpnj
garym wrote: damn Ralph. I've always loved drinking NYC tapwater on my frequent visits to the city. And now that I think about it, it is often in places that likely use roof tanks (old apts downtown or older hotels downtown). Now I'll be thinking about dead creatures with every gulp. ;-)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does this sound somehow familiar?

2013-05-09 Thread ralphpnj
Julf wrote: I am glad I live in Amsterdam, where the only concern is dogs (and deer) peeing in the aquifer areas. But then again, people here like the Amstel beer, and if you see what is floating down the Amstel river... I love Amsterdam! In 2007/2008 my wife and I lived in Den Haag and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does this sound somehow familiar?

2013-05-09 Thread darrell
Very amusing, but wine is very different to audio equipment, if only because wine is an organic material, and not stable. It can get better (or much worse!) with age, and there are different styles of wine - different grape varieties/ripeness, leading to different sugar/alcohol/tannin content,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does this sound somehow familiar?

2013-05-09 Thread ralphpnj
darrell wrote: Very amusing, but wine is very different to audio equipment, if only because wine is an organic material, and not stable. It can get better (or much worse!) with age, and there are different styles of wine - different grape varieties/ripeness, leading to different

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does this sound somehow familiar?

2013-05-09 Thread Jeff52
ralphpnj wrote: In any case, I prefer Styrofoam cups. Styrofoam cups only when quaffing the cheap crap sold in boxes or large bottles, e.g. Carlo Rossi. A nice wine glass when drinking a fine Pinot Noir or an Australian Chardonnay. I'm definitely not a wine snob, but do enjoy a good wine, with

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does this sound somehow familiar?

2013-05-09 Thread darrell
ralphpnj wrote: Good points. However there are more similarities with audio than you think. For example different grapes could be analogous to different types of amplification, i.e. solid state versus tube, and different vats to different types of speakers, i.e. dynamic versus planar.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does this sound somehow familiar?

2013-05-09 Thread Julf
ralphpnj wrote: Have you been to the newly reopened Rijksmuseum yet? Not yet - the queues are still too long. By the way, what wine goes best with raw herring? (I know, not wine, BEER!) No, no no - genever. The only justification for genever (the dutch failed attempt at making gin) is that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does this sound somehow familiar?

2013-05-09 Thread ralphpnj
Julf wrote: Not yet - the queues are still too long. No, no no - genever. The only justification for genever (the dutch failed attempt at making gin) is that it is perfect for washing down salty, partly fermented herring... :) Let me know when you finally get to the Rijksmuseum, a little