Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] L2 Independent Ops

2017-02-13 Thread Mike Borgelt
To fix a problem it is first necessary to acknowledge its existence. Why do you come here to act as the GFA Board troll? Mike At 04:44 PM 2/14/2017, you wrote: are you willing to actually do something constructive or just happy to continue to sling mostly repetitive inflammatory mud.

Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] L2 Independent Ops

2017-02-13 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 06:12 AM 2/12/2017, you wrote: So the LAW provides that after 40hours of tuition and post solo flying a PPL(A) holder can throw his wife and kids in a plane and fly across Australia. What makes gliding so special? Why does only 10% of power time count towards an independent operators

Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] L2 Independent Ops

2017-02-10 Thread Al Borowski
>It does. It gives you level 1. "The Club of a person exercising Level 1 Independent Operator privileges is responsible for that person’s operations, even when the person is operating independently" That alone means it isn't in the same tier as a PPL / RAA cert / Drivers license / Boating

Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] L2 Independent Ops

2017-02-10 Thread Stuart Wolf
> seems that so far, we not found anyone one that can answer the key > questions below > > I'm not an instructor, but I would say to ensure that low hour pilots continue to demonstrate and develop the competencies required to fly a glider. > Are there any reasons why the GPC should not train

Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] L2 Independent Ops

2017-02-10 Thread Richard Frawley
seems that so far, we not found anyone one that can answer the key questions below > I would be very interested to hear from any CFI's on the list as to what are > the risks being mitigated by having both L1 and L2 ops in place. How does > having a L2 instructor around help mitigate with those

Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] L2 Independent Ops

2017-02-10 Thread Mike Borgelt
I'm told that when emergency services attend a road crash involving young people they routinely check the boot for occupants. Some of the restrictions may be counter productive. Yes, a few years ago was talking to a young bloke who was helping out at Aerotec and two hours later he was dead

Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] L2 Independent Ops

2017-02-10 Thread Teal
There is, most certainly good evidence for the effectiveness of supervision as a driving risk mitigation approach, and quite a lot of it (speaking as a road safety researcher). That's one part of what's been behind the evolution of the modern Australian graduated driver licensing system - more

Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] L2 Independent Ops

2017-02-10 Thread Mike Borgelt
I suppose you are an instructor? Mike At 01:57 PM 2/11/2017, you wrote: ​So there is an actual evidence to show this, properly corrected for variables that may have also produced this results. Better cars, roads come to mind, I am sure there are others. Are there less accidents

Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] L2 Independent Ops

2017-02-10 Thread Paul Bart
Interesting, but potentially meaningless as the study acknowledges that the it cannot differentiate between the many limitations that have been applied at the same time. Given the information from the study below, is 100 hours counter productive? Supervised driving 40 hours: ■ 16-year-old crash

Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] L2 Independent Ops

2017-02-10 Thread Christopher McDonnell
. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] L2 Independent Ops I don't think this is strictly true, in Qld at least - "If you are under 25 you will need to record at least 100 hours of supervised driving ". Driving with a professional instructor counts for triple for the first ten hours. L

Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] L2 Independent Ops

2017-02-10 Thread Al Borowski
I don't think this is strictly true, in Qld at least - "If you are under 25 you will need to record at least 100 hours of supervised driving ". Driving with a professional instructor counts for triple for the first ten hours. L2 requires 100 hours of /Command/ time, and power time only counts for

Re: [Aus-soaring] [gfaforum] L2 Independent Ops

2017-02-10 Thread Stuart Wolf
Since people insist on making a car licence analogy, you require 20 hours MORE to be issued a car licence than an L2. On Saturday, February 11, 2017, Richard Frawley wrote: > as a holder of a PPL as well, I agree. If there is extra training needed > in the GPC syllabus then