So rather than have my little advertisement hijacked again as to the
merits of this or that can I just re iterate that I still have two
small ASI's that I would like to sell or swap for two big ones. That
is it, nothing more.
Ron
On 7 September 2011 03:21, Mike Borgelt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxMBCWfDV5Q
From: drudd...@iinet.net.au
To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:01:37 +1000
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Grinding The Crack
Already seen that.
I believe ‘grinding the crack’ is a reference to what they had to do to
Is'nt the new look magazine unreal,but I must say I was a little disturbed by
the Presidents article on our ageing glider fleet. For starters my club had a
plan to fly our blanik for at least its 3750 hours, which would have put
somewhere near 60,000 dollars in our bank account, but thats not
From my 45+years in gliding I personally believe people want to learn and
they want to learn *NOW *and time restraints are far more important than the
bright sleek glass ship in our president article. Take a look at RAAus
1+ members- People get to fly within 15 minutes arrival at airfield.
Well said Macca,
where we are, flying has been hampered by weather, and my students dont say I
wish we had something new to fly they say I wish we could fly, and at the
moment the 2 seater in our club is a kookaburra, and when they can fly they are
damn happy to be in the air, and thats what
Oh I don't know JR, me and the Discus just don't seem to click.
BTW good topic, I will watch with interest.
Cheers
Patch.
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From: JR jma99...@bigpond.net.au
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Well they are a rather difficult and quirksome thing to fly, I dont know why I
mentioned it really, perhaps I should have said libelle, or the mini nimbus,
everyone can click with them can't they, oh and I was just thinking, ( I
know I shouldn't) but if the general public dont want to fly
Agree the now $30 AEF fee is ridiculous. I have only been flying 4 years and
when I started students were $5.
Is there any explanation for this massive rise?
Or is it our GFA looking after our GFA, not the members and clubs?
We are biting the bullet and getting the mod done on our
Oh PS I do love the colour pics in the new mag.
Was always a letdown to see a great picture in mono in the old mag.
Kindest Regards
Grant Davies
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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Ian Mc Phee
Sent:
Hi Macca, JR, All,
A couple of very nice postings, that gives some perspective, on this vexing
subject.
Yeah the AEF fee to GFA is large, but I have never heard of any AEF person
bucking about this. I very much suspect that much of this is because they
really don't understand just what is
I'm really disappointed with the $30 fee. Might be great for Aerotow clubs
charging AEFs off the street at $150-$200 a flight.For a club that charges
$6 launch and can do 5 min circuits if there is no lift and an AEF visitor
generally only manages 2-3 flights. This means they pay more to
Cath,
Remember, that as things stand, this $30 fee gives the lucky AEF person 3 days
membership of the GFA.
I therefore suggest to you that it is a measure of YOUR club's nous, as to how
you market this. Hint - the more you winch launches you give, the cheaper (on
average), each individual
I have been (fairly) quietly fuming about the AEF fees for a while now. This
year the NAGC (Reg Moore and I in reality) instructed sixty teenagers over a
dedicated five weeks. We have been doing this for eleven consecutive
years...the number has risen steadily each year. This yearI learned on
In fact I think it's 9 days GFA membership for $30 but the RA(Aus), the
ultralite boys, give their AEF's 28 days for free. How can they do it and
not us?
Reg Moore
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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of
Gary,
The $30.00 fee represents a massive 50% increase!
Most clubs will just add it to the price of the AEI, for Aero-tow clubs this
represents about 5%,
but I feel for the winch launch clubs, this fee makes up a large piece of
the pricing pie. It also puts
clubs that hold an
I wonder whether there is a place in the new magazine for the kind of
commentary as this thread raises; or if only those approved of by GFA
President and Board have their material published.
Interesting that Classified returned; but I wonder whether members'
letters will.
On 07/09/2011, at
Basically agree with Stuart but suggestion would be
1 The 3 day membership be reintroduced BUT be for under 25 years old (we
record their day of birth) and be $10 (why should AAFC only get
a concessional rate from GFA and not Scouts or other young people)
2 The present 9day and one month GFA be
Hi all,
At GCV in Benalla we have three levels of AEF ranging in price from $135
to $235.
The vast majority of those who take them up buy the most expensive
version, and most make a 400km round trip from Melbourne for the experience.
It's not the price, it's the service. You can book
Stuart,
You subsidise the AOC fee for money making joy-flight activity which makes it
cheaper/same as potential member AEIs??
Odd, in my opinion.
Tom
From: Stuart Kerri FERGUSON s...@bigpond.net.au
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Well said.
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[mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Tim Shirley
Sent: Thursday, 8 September 2011 9:13 AM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] AEF fees, Funding, and the
Hi All,
Just a quick one, I am having trouble finding a copy of a flight / maintenance
manule for a H301 Open Libelle, and i was just wondering if anyone would have a
copy of one that they would be able to send me? (digital form is fine) - or if
anyone has contact details for a owner that
Just for some added information from the coalface.
We held a stall at the Bundaberg Air Show recently and so far have had a
member want to join for three months to try it out.
We do get a few of these and some continue on to full 12 month membership.
Kindest Regards
Grant Davies
Hi Ben,
try:
http://www.gliding.co.uk/bgainfo/technical/datasheets/libelle301and301b.pdf
and this one has got for everyone else:
http://www.gliding.co.uk/bgainfo/technical/datasheets/datasheets.pdf
..
Erich
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:52, Ben Loxton b...@mira.net wrote:
Hi All,
Just a quick
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