Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-08-13 Thread Paul Julian
Equals pretty much anything they want Paul On 14 Aug 2018, at 2:59 pm, Chris Ford wrote: >> I hate to be the ones COMPLIMENTING the Gumbyment, but it's nowhere near >> as bad as I thought they were going to make it. It looks like they've >> actually >> spoken to some people who udnerstand cryp

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-08-13 Thread Chris Ford
> I hate to be the ones COMPLIMENTING the Gumbyment, but it's nowhere near > as bad as I thought they were going to make it. It looks like they've actually > spoken to some people who udnerstand crypto. Read the new Section 317E Listed Acts or Things (page 16 of the exposure draft). It lists the

[AusNOG] IINET MTA - Customer Blocked

2018-08-13 Thread Cameron Murray
Guys, Any IINET MTA onlist? We have a customers site who is unable to access pop.netspace.net.au on 110 tia ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-08-13 Thread Mark Delany
> Force a developer to modify the app Most app developers are not under Australian jurisdictions. Especially so for app developers who specialize in dark-web comms. With 20+ million programmers out there, it's not that hard to find someone to develop an app that is immune to Australian government

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-08-13 Thread Alex Samad
I'm sure nothing could go wrong there... A On 14 August 2018 at 14:11, Mark Andrews wrote: > A quick reading of the exposure bill would allow for a scenario like this: > > Force a developer to modify the app to send a encrypted copy of the > traffic to > a given address and to issue a new versi

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-08-13 Thread Mark Andrews
A quick reading of the exposure bill would allow for a scenario like this: Force a developer to modify the app to send a encrypted copy of the traffic to a given address and to issue a new version triggering a “update available” notification. Force the store to return the modified version of the

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-08-13 Thread Paul Julian
I think it’s easy to read this, just re-read the bollocks that we have already had to comply with and it should match pretty close. The summary I get from it is that they can’t access encrypted stuff now so they want everybody to make it so they can, but they can’t say that they will force peo

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-08-13 Thread Robert Hudson
My reading isn't as positive. tl;dr - it's too vague and open to intepretation. >From the Explanatory Document ( https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/consultations/Documents/explanatory-document.pdf ): " Allow the Attorney-General to issue a technical capability notice, requiring a designated communic

Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-08-13 Thread Rob Thomas
I hate to be the ones COMPLIMENTING the Gumbyment, but it's nowhere near as bad as I thought they were going to make it. It looks like they've actually spoken to some people who udnerstand crypto. The important bits seem to be on Pages 8 and 9 here - https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/consultations/Do

[AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill

2018-08-13 Thread I
https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/about/consultations/assistance-and-access-bill-2018 ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog

Re: [AusNOG] Strange NBN reports from Baldivis area (WA)

2018-08-13 Thread Mark Newton
Only if you use lemon-scented fabric softener. - mark > On 13 Aug 2018, at 10:32 pm, Tom Storey wrote: > > The ironing is delicious. > >> On 1 August 2018 at 01:36, Mark Newton wrote: >> I’m almost delighted to see Telstra experiencing the same frustrating issues >> with wholesalers tha

Re: [AusNOG] Strange NBN reports from Baldivis area (WA)

2018-08-13 Thread Tom Storey
The ironing is delicious. On 1 August 2018 at 01:36, Mark Newton wrote: > I’m almost delighted to see Telstra experiencing the same frustrating > issues with wholesalers that everyone else has been forced to deal with for > the last 20 years :D > > - mark __

Re: [AusNOG] ATS recommendation

2018-08-13 Thread Bradley Amm
Would my DC provider (NextDC) have any issues with me using the ATS linked above. Trying to get our provider supply dual power supply NTU is becoming a hassle. On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 4:08 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe IT) < r...@latrobeit.com.au> wrote: > Thanks for that > I’m thinking faulty unit > >

Re: [AusNOG] ATS recommendation

2018-08-13 Thread Rhys Cuff (Latrobe IT)
Thanks for that I'm thinking faulty unit Sent from my iPhone On 13 Aug 2018, at 5:51 pm, Brad Peczka mailto:b...@bradpeczka.com>> wrote: I run a fleet of the APC ATSes - some of which are coming on 10 years service - with no noted issues beyond some caveats in the firmware update process. I

Re: [AusNOG] ATS recommendation

2018-08-13 Thread Brad Peczka
I run a fleet of the APC ATSes - some of which are coming on 10 years service - with no noted issues beyond some caveats in the firmware update process. In the absence of details on the error the UPSes threw, the original issue sounds like a faulty device. Eaton are a good alternative but the