Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Paul Wilkins
Consequently, should this Bill pass, first cab off the rank will be initial TANs requesting metadata: - tracking convoys of (possibly illegal) motorcycle enthusiast groups - tracking the weekend night movements of dance enthusiast groups with followup TCNs to automate the process.

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Paul Wilkins
And/or voluntary disclosure per 177 Telecommunications (Interception and Access) Act 1979 (1) Sections 276, 277 and 278 of the Telecommunications Act 1997 do not prevent a disclosure by a person (the holder) of information or a document to an enforcement agency if the disclosure is reasonably

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Paul Wilkins
Another avenue for LEAs to access metadata would be via 280(1)(b) where disclosure is required under a TCN/TAN (thereby overriding the disclosure prohibition o 276)(1) 280 Authorisation by or under law (1) Division 2 does not prohibit a disclosure or use of information or a document if: (b) in

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Paul Wilkins
Dutton's argument is premised on a false equivalence. It's perfectly possible to protect against terrorism without throwing out the baby with the bathwater, kicking doors in on data centres and warrantless mass surveillance. Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 at 15:25, Christian

Re: [AusNOG] Metronode/Equinix contact

2018-11-14 Thread Mark Cheeseman (lists)
Thanks for the off-list replies. I have what I need now. Cheers, Mark From: AusNOG on behalf of Mark Cheeseman (lists) Sent: Wednesday, 14 November 2018 11:03:36 PM To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Metronode/Equinix contact I should have

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Christian Heinrich
James, On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 at 12:43, James Andrewartha wrote: > https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/nov/14/labor-accuses-peter-dutton-of-lying-to-politicise-national-security Worth nothing that there is still no evidence that WhatsApp was used during the "Bourke Street attack was

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra outage this morning

2018-11-14 Thread Paul Steele
Thanks for the heads up. On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:52 AM Lachlan Gilmour < lachlan.gilm...@surfpacific.com.au> wrote: > I've received quite a few notifications from telstra wholesale regarding > unplanned outages today, screenshot attached. > > > > On Thu, 15 Nov. 2018, 11:44 am Paul Steele >>

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra outage this morning

2018-11-14 Thread Paul Steele
We had an outage this morning that appears to align with this chain of messages. We were not receiving text through the TIMS service from about 06:00 EDT until around 10:30 EDT. Telstra have advised us there was no record of any outage or degradation of service this morning. Paul

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread James Andrewartha
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018, Paul Wilkins wrote: > "Given that Dutton was straight on the band wagon within hours of the events > in Melbourne last week. Im sure this will be > railroaded through and any opposition will be called out as "weak national > security policy".  I think the chances of this

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Paul Wilkins
Paul, I'm concerned that under s313(3)c and s280(1)(b) Telecommunications Act 1997, TCNs/TANs can be issued to to create automated warrantless metadata access, and we've seen little discussion around this, mostly the focus has been on computer/data warrants. There also used to be provision for

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Paul Wilkins
https://www.arnnet.com.au/article/648206/cisco-raises-grave-concerns-over-assistance-access-bill/ In a submission to parliament, the networking giant expressed "serious reservations" regarding provisions within the Bill that "threaten to undercut sustained efforts by Cisco and others to develop,

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Paul Brooks
The meetings (now 4 in total) have been listed on the Committee website for several weeks. We (IA) were notified of our invitation to appear and speak two weeks ago while they were putting together the detailed runsheet. FWIW tomorrow I'll be appearing for Internet Australia at 2:30pm, and

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Paul Wilkins
"Given that Dutton was straight on the band wagon within hours of the events in Melbourne last week. Im sure this will be railroaded through and any opposition will be called out as "weak national security policy". I think the chances of this not going though as first read now is gone from slim

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Mark Andrews
There was at-least 3 weeks notice of a meeting tomorrow in Sydney even if the exact time and place where not known. I would have expected anyone planning to attend would have blocked out the day. > On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 at 16:20, Paul Wilkins wrote: New PJCIS Public Hearings 16 Nov 2018:

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Matt Perkins
Given that Dutton was straight on the band wagon within hours of the events in Melbourne last week. Im sure this will be railroaded through and any opposition will be called out as "weak national security policy".   I think the chances of this not going though as first read now is gone from

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Nathan Brookfield
Could they possibly give less notice Unbelievable! Nathan Brookfield Chief Executive Officer Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd http://www.simtronic.com.au On 15 Nov 2018, at 10:40, Paul Wilkins mailto:paulwilkins...@gmail.com>> wrote: Media Release: Issue date: 14 November 2018 Second

Re: [AusNOG] Assistance and Access Bill moves to PJCIS

2018-11-14 Thread Paul Wilkins
Media Release: Issue date: 14 November 2018 *Second public hearing on the Encryption Bill* The second public hearing on the Telecommunication and Other Legislation Amendment (Assistance and Access) Bill 2018 will be held on *Friday, 16 November 2018* in Sydney. The Committee will hear from

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra outage this morning

2018-11-14 Thread Rob Thomas
After discussing this internally, I went to check if my (Telstra NBN) SIP DOT trunk survived - that was down too, between 6:02am and 6:22am (there's a bit of latency on checks, so it may have been spot-on 6am). Russell, if you were unaware, you may want to poke someone about that, too, as (as far

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra outage this morning

2018-11-14 Thread Russell Langton
Hi All, The incorrect routes have been corrected a couple of moment ago. Please make contact if not restored. We are investigating the root cause. On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 8:56 AM Mark Duffell wrote: > Hi Ben, > > Will contact you/others off-list but this is being investigated Telstra > side

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra outage this morning

2018-11-14 Thread Mark Duffell
Hi Ben, Will contact you/others off-list but this is being investigated Telstra side currently. Regards, Mark Sent from my iPhone > On 15 Nov 2018, at 08:19, Ben Cooper wrote: > > Morning Folks, > > Anyone else seeing issues with Telstra grabbing prefixes and miss routing > them this

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra outage this morning

2018-11-14 Thread Rob Thomas
> BGPmon says ours was hijacked at 20:19 UTC or 7:19am AEDT. There appears to have been TWO events this morning. One at around 6am-ish (non-DST, so 7:19am DST looks correct), and another brief one at about 7:10am (+1 DST) for 4 minute - the second MAY be unrelated, but SOME peers in Mega BNE

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra outage this morning

2018-11-14 Thread Nick Stallman
The Telstra looking glass appears to be routing normally for us just within the last couple of minutes. BGPmon says ours was hijacked at 20:19 UTC or 7:19am AEDT. On 15/11/18 08:25, Dean Walsh wrote: Yep, us too, started around 3:16AM for us. Kind Regards, *Dean Walsh* CTO, Net Virtue Pty

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra outage this morning

2018-11-14 Thread Jared Hirst
Yep same here. We have 6-7 prefixes so far. [https://info.serversaustralia.com.au/hubfs/Brand-2018/logo-font-sau.gif] Jared Hirst Chief Executive Officer P: (02) 8115 8801 M: 0457 737 837 4 Amy Close, Wyong, NSW 2259 Need assistance? We are here 24/7 +61 2 8115

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra outage this morning

2018-11-14 Thread Dean Walsh
Yep, us too, started around 3:16AM for us. Kind Regards, *Dean Walsh* CTO, Net Virtue Pty Ltd Join us here: 1300 885 303 07 3067 3091 d...@staff.netvirtue.com.au www.netvirtue.com.au

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra outage this morning

2018-11-14 Thread Ben Cooper
Yeah, I have coming up on 5 prefixes, (including a /22!) that have been stolen so far. Cheers Ben On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 8:21 AM Nick Stallman wrote: > Yep they've stolen my prefix. > > > https://status.mysau.com.au/pages/incident/5a84da739589b51840c50ca1/5bec9042138af504bc568f11 > > On

Re: [AusNOG] Telstra outage this morning

2018-11-14 Thread Nick Stallman
Yep they've stolen my prefix. https://status.mysau.com.au/pages/incident/5a84da739589b51840c50ca1/5bec9042138af504bc568f11 On 15/11/18 08:19, Ben Cooper wrote: Morning Folks, Anyone else seeing issues with Telstra grabbing prefixes and miss routing them this morning? Cheers Ben

[AusNOG] Telstra Prefix Hijack?

2018-11-14 Thread Nick Pratley
Morning all, Anyone else seeing this? We've seen around 6-7 /24s being pulled up by AS1221 over the last few hours (some from /23 ranges that we are advertising), rerouting traffic that's just looping in their Melbourne network. Anyone have a contact at Telstra that can help with this?

[AusNOG] Telstra outage this morning

2018-11-14 Thread Ben Cooper
Morning Folks, Anyone else seeing issues with Telstra grabbing prefixes and miss routing them this morning? Cheers Ben ___ AusNOG mailing list AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog

Re: [AusNOG] Metronode/Equinix contact

2018-11-14 Thread Mark Cheeseman (lists)
I should have added that the present occupancy is via a third party. Hence the lack of current-state knowledge. That detail was in the line that I accidentally deleted before sending. From: AusNOG on behalf of Mark Cheeseman (lists) Sent: Wednesday, 14

[AusNOG] Metronode/Equinix contact

2018-11-14 Thread Mark Cheeseman (lists)
Hi All, Can somebody from Equinix/Metronode ping me off-list re some questions I have around services, service boundaries etc at the GovDC? We have a few racks in both locations and I need to discuss a few things with the DC provider. Cheers, Mark