Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-05 Thread Angelo Giuffrida
Great discussion Rob, thank you! On Fri., 5 Oct. 2018, 1:29 am Rob Thomas, wrote: > As it appears that my rebuttal is not going to be deleted in /r/security, > can I suggest we take this discussion there, rather than yet more noise > here? > > >

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Rob Thomas
As it appears that my rebuttal is not going to be deleted in /r/security, can I suggest we take this discussion there, rather than yet more noise here? https://www.reddit.com/r/security/comments/9ljcny/the_bloomberg_article_about_supermicro_is_bogus/ I will address your points there! On Fri, 5

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Paul Wilkins
1 - Denials by Apple & Amazon are qualified 2 - Bloomberg are a reputable news agency 3 - They quote multiple sources 4 - They quote 30 approx companies affected 5 - This is a feasible vector, which means it's a risk Kind regards Paul Wilkins On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 15:05, Matthew Moyle-Croft

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Matthew Moyle-Croft
Fairly robust rebuttal from the usually very silent Amazon. https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/security/setting-the-record-straight-on-bloomberg-businessweeks-erroneous-article/ MMC On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 2:18 PM Rob Thomas wrote: > Odd. I've messaged the mods, I had a bit.ly link in it, which may

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Rob Thomas
Odd. I've messaged the mods, I had a bit.ly link in it, which may have triggered the spamfilter. I've pastebin'ed the text here -- https://pastebin.com/mVpqNa38 --Rob On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 14:43, Bill Woodcock wrote: > > > > On Oct 4, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Rob Thomas wrote: > > > > I posed to

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Bill Woodcock
> On Oct 4, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Rob Thomas wrote: > > I posed to /r/netsec if anyone cares to take the discussion there Posted seven minutes ago, and already removed? -Bill signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Rob Thomas
I posed to /r/netsec if anyone cares to take the discussion there, and expanded on my original post a bit. I'm even more certain that this is fabricated, the more I think about it. https://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/9lj7mx/the_bloomberg_article_about_supermicro_is_bogus/ ? --Rob On Fri,

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Rob Thomas
I've been doing some research on my own, to see if ANYTHING corroborates this, and I'm coming up empty handed. (This is the bonus of being unemployed!) Let's go through a few assertions in the original article. 1. It was an extremely small chip ('grain of rice'), disguised as a signal coupler

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Matt Perkins
Seems a lot easer just to legislate that software company’s are compelled to install malware that can be remotely activated by the government. Surely only an evil foreign power would do something so Orwellian. Matt -- /* Matt Perkins Direct 1300 137 379 Spectrum Networks Ptd.

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Jim Woodward
On Behalf Of Serge Burjak Sent: Friday, 5 October 2018 11:09 AM To: Paul Wilkins Cc: shannonpea...@me.com; aus...@ausnog.net Subject: Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive This is the response from the players <https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-amazon-ap

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Paul Jones
> -Original Message- > From: AusNOG On Behalf Of Scott > Weeks > Sent: Friday, 5 October 2018 10:34 AM > To: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive > > That would be the FSB (was KGB) or CIA and you > don't have a choice. T

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Noel Butler
iCtG_AvPlliL0yuDZKcJDPX23xkdcI=IVl33wh7j2kT9A8phJg8TmcO8aG-siRF8sV9TAnT4nk > [2] > > Regards, > > -- > > Florian Valette > > _Innovation is freedom_ > > Email: florian.vale...@corp.ovh.com > > ------

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Serge Burjak
This is the response from the players https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-amazon-apple-supermicro-and-beijing-respond On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 10:37, Paul Wilkins wrote: > Posted on Bloomberg October 4, 2018 ergo, not fake news. The meta story > here is that Apple and

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Paul Wilkins
Posted on Bloomberg October 4, 2018 ergo, not fake news. The meta story here is that Apple and Amazon are officially denying it. Three senior insiders at Apple say that in the summer of 2015, it, too, found malicious chips on Supermicro motherboards. Apple severed ties with Supermicro the

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Scott Weeks
--- jayb...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jay Dixon As our previous security manager at work put it in his thick Russian accent... "you know, you have 2 choices about who reads your email; KGB, or FBI" That would be the FSB (was KGB) or CIA and you

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Paul Wilkins
Negatory on the fake news. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04/the-big-hack-how-china-used-a-tiny-chip-to-infiltrate-america-s-top-companies On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 10:25, Jay Dixon wrote: > As our previous security manager at work put it in his thick Russian > accent... > > "you

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Jay Dixon
As our previous security manager at work put it in his thick Russian accent... "you know, you have 2 choices about who reads your email; KGB, or FBI" On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 10:00 AM Noel Butler wrote: > given when this broke a couple days ago > > >

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Florian Valette
com> -- OVH Network "Chacha" Team AS 16276 http://peering.ovh.net/ From: AusNOG on behalf of Noel Butler Date: Friday, 5 October 2018 at 10:00 am To: Ausnog Subject: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive given when this broke a couple days ago https://www.securi

Re: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Rory Jones
:51 AM To: Ausnog Subject: [AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive given when this broke a couple days ago https://www.securityweek.com/china-used-tiny-chips-us-computers-steal-secrets-report overnight nasdaq supermicro stocks down 41% seems cant trust much coming out of China these days. though, you

[AusNOG] supermicro stocks dive

2018-10-04 Thread Noel Butler
given when this broke a couple days ago https://www.securityweek.com/china-used-tiny-chips-us-computers-steal-secrets-report overnight nasdaq supermicro stocks down 41% seems cant trust much coming out of China these days. though, you cant trust anything coming out of the USA either. --